[14:00] *** Retrieving #netsurprise info... [14:01] *** WillyB changes topic to 'Adult NetSurprise Newbie Chat - Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom!' [14:01] <@WillyB> net is slow [14:02] <@Rowdy> hmmm..... [14:03] *** Joins: juststeve [14:04] <@WillyB> I started those at about 20 after.. that's why I put about 30 minutes at the end of it [14:04] <@Rowdy> Hi Steve [14:04] <@WillyB> GMoning Steve :) [14:04] <@WillyB> gDay :) [14:04] moaning all :) [14:04] *** Joins: Annieb [14:04] <@WillyB> hi Annieb :) [14:04] <@Rowdy> Hi AnnieB [14:04] hey Willyb :)) [14:04] <@WillyB> get your phpAds worked out yesterday? [14:04] Hi Rowdy [14:04] *** Joins: tia [14:04] yup [14:05] <@Rowdy> hi tia [14:05] <@WillyB> hi tia :) [14:05] <@WillyB> Cool Annie :) [14:05] hey guys [14:05] i still can't make it show text on a java call [14:05] hi Annie & Tia [14:05] hi juststeve [14:05] :) hi tia [14:05] <@WillyB> java.. have not attempted that at all yet with it hehehe [14:06] i was reading the board, I just don't think that can be done yet [14:06] *** Quits: tia (Connection reset by peer) [14:06] <@WillyB> i c [14:06] *** Joins: cheekymarie [14:07] <@WillyB> hello cheekymarie.. good morning :) [14:07] Morning all :) [14:07] *** Quits: NetSupOp (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] *** Quits: Rowdy (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] *** Quits: Annieb (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] *** Joins: NetSupOp [14:08] Hi how you doing? [14:08] *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +o NetSupOp [14:08] *** Joins: Annieb [14:08] <@WillyB> wb Annieb [14:08] *** Joins: tia [14:08] ty [14:08] <@WillyB> not bad marie... how are you today [14:08] wb tia [14:08] <@WillyB> wb tia [14:08] whoa.. real trouble connecting! [14:09] xan is having trouble too [14:09] *** Joins: Randy [14:09] the net is having problems today [14:09] hey Randy [14:09] <@WillyB> xan was peered off a while ago :/ [14:09] waking up :) but good, all I have to do is convince Steve to make the cuppas this morning lol [14:09] <@WillyB> yeah.. it is [14:09] *** Joins: Officer [14:09] <@WillyB> hello Randy [14:09] <@WillyB> hi ya Officer [14:09] hey Officer [14:10] hello [14:10] Hi Willy, Tia, Randy and everyone else :) [14:10] Hi Officer [14:10] hi Officer [14:10] <@WillyB> net is bad today.. had everone get booted a few minutes ago.. waiting on folks to get back [14:11] oh ya.. net's got problems today! [14:11] ahhhya thats been happening a lot lately [14:11] *** Joins: Rowdy [14:11] brb [14:11] wb Rowdy [14:11] <@WillyB> wb Rowdy [14:12] don't ya hate it when that happens :) [14:12] hehe.. yep [14:12] *** WillyB sets mode: +o Rowdy [14:12] <@WillyB> hehehe [14:13] <@WillyB> So.. tia you are pretty excited about this project Rowdy brought up on the Newbie board.. what were your ideas on that? [14:13] *** Joins: bix [14:13] So whats todays subject?I got an ANS icq, didnt really go into detail about what you all were discussing [14:13] <@WillyB> hello Bix [14:13] <@Rowdy> hi bix [14:13] oh i expect you think i should go read the board, huh ? :P [14:13] *** Joins: xan [14:13] finally [14:13] hi WillyB, Rowdy [14:14] <@Rowdy> Officer .. we are going to discuss different ideas for a Newbie Board project :) [14:14] <@Rowdy> hi xan [14:14] ahhkewl [14:14] well, I was thinking about a link exchange list.. but now after talking with Frank and others, I don't think that would be a very good idea.. so I thought since we want this project for learning.. how about a group free site, just for learninga feeder site [14:14] hi Rowdy [14:14] *** Joins: Frank [14:14] <@WillyB> Rowdy suggested a project for the Newbie Board to build a site or group of sites.. or something along those lines... we thought we should get some ideas as to what it should be exactly from the folks who will be participating or interested [14:14] g'day Frank [14:14] <@Rowdy> hi Frank [14:14] sorry I'm late, damn puter froze up [14:15] hey Frank :) [14:15] <@WillyB> wb xan :) [14:15] hey xan ;)) [14:15] hi everyone :-) [14:15] you mean kind of like a tutorial on basic feeder site building? [14:15] *** NetSupOp sets mode: +o Frank [14:15] yes officer [14:15] *** Joins: Bixer [14:15] hey Bixer :) [14:15] <@WillyB> but make it a group project [14:15] alrighty [14:15] <@Frank> Hi Bixer [14:15] hi tia [14:15] <@WillyB> wb Bixer [14:16] hey Frank [14:16] right Willy, we all have one thing in common, and that's the need for free sites [14:16] Hi Frank [14:16] *** Joins: GonZo [14:16] <@Frank> Hi marie, tia, and all, lol [14:16] *** Quits: xan (Connection reset by peer) [14:16] <@WillyB> What did you have in mind with that post Rowdy? I know everyone like the idea from the responses to your post [14:16] optimized for search engines especially [14:16] ok, now i've finally got my irc up I can shut down the java [14:16] <@WillyB> hello GonZo [14:16] what up? [14:16] *** Quits: bix (QUIT: User exited) [14:16] <@Rowdy> I like the idea of actually building like three different sites... a general free site, a niche free site, and a general AVS site. This is something we could all use for future referance and we can promote a general links page of participating members sites or something instead of sponsors on them [14:17] that sounds a good idea Rowdy [14:17] sounds good Rowdy.. like templates [14:18] Rowdy, can you say more about the idea of three different sites [14:18] <@Rowdy> ysp.. something like templates but instead of the nice easy zip files, folks could use them as idea makers :) [14:18] have yall seen avsalert.com? [14:19] <@WillyB> a general free site can be used as a feeder site to avs sites.. and niche sites help you target the traffic a bit more Bixer [14:19] <@Rowdy> the different sites would just be something that would give a persona n idea of how they could be laid out effectivly Bixer [14:19] avsalert has a nice set of avs templates [14:20] like have to oldtime webmaster build them as samples for the newbies or as a team? [14:20] *** Quits: Randy (QUIT: User exited) [14:20] <@Rowdy> team effort Annie :) [14:20] the purpose of this is to learn, and best way to learn is to participate in the actual building [14:20] <@Frank> this is a team effort Annieb. [14:21] <@Rowdy> either all together on one site at a time or possiblt split into some sub-groups to do all three at once [14:21] <@Frank> I think the idea of everyone reviewing every sites and giving feedback will benefit all and incorporate many different ideas. [14:22] <@Frank> Especially in a niche market. [14:22] We all have different ways of designing sites too, so this would help us all [14:22] *** Quits: tia (Connection reset by peer) [14:22] Sorry folks , gotta go...duty is a callin :)Good luck with your project [14:23] <@Frank> yes marie, and many do better in different areas. [14:23] *** Parts: Officer [14:23] <@WillyB> I think so too marie.. it will help to stimulate creativity and expand on ideas [14:23] <@Frank> c ya officer [14:23] <@Frank> hummm, wonder where everyone is today, lol [14:24] <@Rowdy> so does this sound a bit more feasible as compared to the SE deal? [14:24] hmmm, yeah it sure is quiet, but the brain is ticking over [14:24] ? [14:24] <@WillyB> yes Rowdy.. [14:24] Well I like both actually, but this one sounds better and we can work in the SE's while we do it [14:24] <@Frank> For sure Rowdy, plus it takes forever to see any results from any SE stuff and it changes all the damn time, lol [14:25] SE traffic is gold though [14:25] <@Frank> yea, but you always have to change to keep up with it. what works today may not tomorrow. therefore it would be hard to make a decent beneficial project [14:25] yup [14:25] <@Rowdy> I agree gonzo ... but we need folks to learn how to build sites and this will incorporate some SE skills as well into it :) [14:26] cool [14:26] <@Frank> learning the basics of site building and getting traffic from point a to b will last forever, lol [14:27] <@WillyB> What is the best way of going about this then do you think? [14:27] <@WillyB> Start with a template .. white bg / black text.. no ads.. and go from there? [14:27] <@Rowdy> first will have to take a poll on the board and see who is willing to participate in it [14:27] *** Joins: bix [14:27] <@WillyB> ok [14:27] I suppose we need to work out if we are doing it in sub groups or as a whole group for all three project [14:28] <@Frank> that's my question to WillyB, lol, will this be mainly for the newbies and us as guidance counselors, lol [14:28] *** Quits: Bixer (Ping Timeout) [14:29] <@WillyB> wb Bix [14:29] *** Joins: tia [14:29] <@WillyB> wb tia [14:29] well count me in Rowdy [14:29] dang!lol [14:30] <@WillyB> I think so for the most part Frank [14:30] yep count me in too :) [14:30] <@Rowdy> 1. find number of participants 2. decide one group or split depending on previous number 3. make a basic design of site and put it up for review 4. Tweak as needed and that one is done [14:30] hi again WillyB...I've missed a lot because of lost connections, is there an original post I can look at for background? [14:30] same with me [14:30] <@WillyB> but also let the new folks try to help as in reviewing it [14:30] <@WillyB> what Rowdy just said :) [14:30] how about posting the idea on the board? [14:30] <@WillyB> LOL [14:31] missed it [14:31] <@Frank> sounds good [14:32] *** Joins: Bixer [14:32] can someone fill me in? :) [14:32] <@Frank> about what tia? [14:32] I missed what you all decided [14:32] <@WillyB> tia.. what rowdy said up there right after you re-joined [14:33] ok [14:33] <@WillyB> still getting idea [14:33] <@WillyB> s [14:33] <@Frank> nothing is decide yet, Rowdy has a general idea about it above [14:33] *** Quits: Annieb (Connection reset by peer) [14:33] <@WillyB> ok.. so we have a general index/warning page linking to a page w/ links to the galleries [14:34] <@WillyB> start out with no ads and bland bkg/txt combo and go from there? [14:34] <@WillyB> let the input from the board place the thumbs and colors etc.? [14:34] that sounds good.. who will do the actual html? [14:35] <@WillyB> I have a template that is just a gallery pages with thumbs centered down the middle and nothing else on thepage hehehe [14:35] <@WillyB> but the thumbs all point to html pages with nothing but the pic on them [14:35] <@Rowdy> Atually willy there will probably need to be something on the pages so they can visualize the changes IMHO [14:36] *** Joins: Buzzard [14:36] lo all [14:36] we could always use the page, make our own changes and post the url when we want to show them [14:36] <@Rowdy> hi Buzzard [14:36] show just one change at a time [14:36] <@WillyB> true.. I was meaning leave it so the layout design was very open.. guess I was being too general hehehe [14:37] <@Rowdy> lol [14:37] <@WillyB> hi Buzzard [14:37] <@WillyB> no ads on it so suggestions could be made as to where to put them [14:37] *** Quits: tia (Connection reset by peer) [14:37] <@Frank> that's a idea tia, that would be cool. when we decide on group or sub-group, each can make a page a post it for everyones review. Then maybe through all of them we can take to good parts of all and make 1 hell of a page/site [14:37] basic newbie question:why do some tgp sites not want galleries to open pics in html?Is opening in html the same as opening in a new window? [14:37] *** Quits: Buzzard (Connection reset by peer) [14:37] <@WillyB> that's a good idea tia [14:38] *** Quits: NetSupOp (Connection reset by peer) [14:38] *** Joins: tia [14:38] think they dont want the ads [14:38] *** Joins: NetSupOp [14:38] <@Frank> bix, cause people abuse it and make full page ads [14:39] *** Quits: Bixer (Ping Timeout) [14:39] I typed in a few ideas, but wasn't sure if anyone saw because I got disconnected :( [14:39] <@WillyB> well the ads would not be linked to any url..just there for display purposes [14:39] <@WillyB><@Frank> that's a idea tia, that would be cool. when we decide on group or sub-group, each can make a page a post it for everyones review. Then maybe through all of them we can take to good parts of all and make 1 hell of a page/site [14:39] sweet [14:40] but I think it would be productive to do one part at a time [14:40] all do meta tags... then perhaps all do sponsor links [14:40] <@Frank> yes, it's best 1 part at a time I think [14:40] perhaps when we have it finished it could be posted somewhere as a tutorial [14:40] <@WillyB> it will be an ongoing project I think [14:40] all download the same page and post on their own servers their contributions [14:41] <@Frank> juststever, I'm not real sure yet but I would think that these projects will be archived somewhere [14:41] keeping the same subject till one is decided on.. then onto the next part [14:41] <@WillyB> yep.. that is a good idea tia [14:41] this way, everyone is focused on one thing at a time [14:42] we vote for the best to include it on the page [14:42] <@WillyB> juststeve.. it will be archived and put use as a tutorial.. I think that is part of Rowdy's plan anyway :) [14:43] maybe we can set a week for each part [14:43] thanks GonZo [14:43] have everyone enter their ideas on their own servers.. then vote [14:43] *** Joins: TD [14:43] <@WillyB> hi TD [14:43] <@Rowdy> There are many different routes we can take/modify as we go ... I get the feeling that the general idea is a go though correct? :) [14:43] *** Joins: Bixer [14:44] tanks for? [14:44] <@Frank> yep, I don't think this will work without every getting in on it for many reasons. Take me for instance, everyone doesn't need to do things how I do it cause they may not have the same resources etc... so everyone has to be involved so it's not 1 persons way or the other. [14:44] sure is Rowdy [14:44] correct [14:44] <@WillyB> yes Rowdy.. I think it's great idea [14:44] hello :) [14:44] that's why I think a vote would be good Frank [14:44] <@Frank> yes, the general idea is the start [14:44] thanksFrank [14:44] hi TD [14:44] hiya TD :) [14:44] <@Rowdy> ok... and our talented Frank has agreed to oversee things once it's decided so we can have a "running" total of progress [14:45] yay Frank :) [14:45] well done Frank :) [14:45] <@WillyB> TDavid.. just got your email.. thanks mon! :-) [14:46] <@WillyB> WTG Frank! [14:47] <@WillyB> Do you want to make a simple template then Frank.. and post it on the board? [14:47] <@WillyB> do you think that isgood way to get things started? [14:49] <@WillyB> . [14:49] *** Disconnected [14:49] *** Attempting to rejoin... [14:49] *** Rejoined channel #netsurprise [14:49] *** Topic is 'Adult NetSurprise Newbie Chat - Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom!' [14:49] *** Set by WillyB on Wed Sep 26 14:01:23 [14:49] -SurpriseBot- Welcome - Net Surprise IRC - thud.net channel #netsurprise [14:49] wb Willy :) [14:49] ty tia [14:49] <@Frank> I could make some templates I guess, depends on what the vote is. I think maybe even those involved can submit a blank template and then we all decide on what to start with. [14:50] *** Joins: Kaiser [14:50] Hello Everybody!! [14:50] sounds good Frank [14:50] <@Frank> Personally I'll help and do whatever people think they need. [14:50] hi Kaiser :) [14:50] <@Frank> Hi kKiser! [14:50] Hey WillyB! [14:50] Hi Kaiser :) [14:50] Kaiser!!hiya :) [14:50] <@Frank> Damn, that's Kaiser [14:50] *** Joins: shelurkin [14:50] hi shelurkin [14:51] hi ya shelurkin [14:51] Hi cheekymarie, Tia, Frank and shelurkin [14:51] *** Quits: Bixer (Connection reset by peer) [14:51] Do we need a separate Discussion Board to keep track of this project and have a convenient historical record? [14:51] how about a basic warning page title, warning that leads to a thumbs page for the template [14:51] I think we should try to keep things in a thread for this [14:52] <@Frank> Personally when I get into anything like this I like getting everyone involved and putting out there ideas. It's not gonna help anyone for me to just throw out some templates. [14:52] that way we have something to build from.. a subject [14:52] *** Quits: NetSupOp (Connection reset by peer) [14:52] that is the purpose of them and TD may have a way to archive threads.. or we can just do it by hand when we need to [14:52] *** Quits: Kaiser (Connection reset by peer) [14:52] we need something to start with Frank [14:52] Would it help if we all started with our own basic template [14:53] *** Quits: shelurkin (Connection reset by peer) [14:53] we all know how to do titles and warnings and thumbs right guys? [14:53] <@Frank> I think the project will be all discussed on the newbie board, reviews and all. [14:53] Then we can have it archived and put in the newbie center as it keeps moving along [14:53] that's right and then we can have it discussed on the board and reviewed [14:53] <@Frank> this is for everyone, maybe will even bring out the lurkers that are bashfull [14:53] we need those things for example for the meta tags [14:54] *** Joins: Bixer [14:54] archiving or grouping threads is easy if you stick to some formula [14:54] *** Joins: shelurkin [14:54] ie Newbieboard #1 [14:54] ie Newbieboard 2 [14:54] etc [14:54] use the thread title to group [14:54] and then i can whip up something to generate a page of those threads that is relative [14:54] cool :) [14:55] I have a feeling I'm disconnected [14:55] <@Frank> tia, OK, I'll submit some index/warning page template ideas, and everyone else do one to. [14:55] you are still here tia ;) [14:55] I can't believe how bad the net is today [14:55] Its gonna get worse too [14:55] Exodus is about to tank [14:56] tank? [14:56] <@Frank> I agree though that once the type of site is decided on we can take it one step at a time, entrance page, gallery, gallerys, etc... [14:56] sounds good Frank [14:56] <@Frank> I think once the site is finally finished then we can do the SE stuff. [14:56] I know Willy, I'm real close to disconnect I can tell [14:56] Capter 11 [14:56] Chapter 11 [14:56] <@Frank> tia, I have had problems today too, dunno [14:56] that will give everyone a chance to see it and give input and ask questions etc. [14:56] good idea Frank [14:58] tia, I've had to resort to keeping the java chat running in the background since I got disconnected from irc so much [14:58] tia.. I am putting sites on the back burner today that are 404.. saving them for later incase it's just my end at the moment [14:59] *** Quits: shelurkin (Connection reset by peer) [14:59] <@Frank> not sure how all this may pan out, if it's not getting to far indepth it may even be a good idea as we go along trying to explan why a page is layed out in a certain way, etc... [14:59] *** Quits: tia (Connection reset by peer) [14:59] yep and I think it will give us all some fresh ideas on page design too [14:59] I agree Frank.. it will help stimulate minds and help ppl to learn the whys about advertising [14:59] <@Frank> For instance there may be a reason why you want the surfer to enter a site, therefore less stuff at the entrance, or you may want to be aggresive on the entrance for whatever reason. [14:59] *** Rowdy-BRB is now known as Rowdy [15:00] wb Rowdy [15:00] <@Rowdy> ty [15:01] <@Frank> It seems we have a pretty good idea on what we are wanting to do now. it's just a matter of getting enough involved and sorting out a few minor details me thinks, lol [15:01] We need to let everyone know off at the start that we need to keep this Threaded! [15:01] *** Joins: tia [15:01] wb tia [15:01] geesh :) [15:02] <@Rowdy> I agree willy [15:02] <@Frank> True WillyB, [15:02] <@Frank> I'll make a post later if you want to start a thread. [15:03] <@Rowdy> first just find out the number of participants... give them 24 hours to respons on the board or something [15:03] See what TD said above.. so we can make it searchable on different threads [15:03] good idea. cause the net is so bad I'm not sure what I've missed [15:03] i just added a new function to the newbieboard for you guys to play around with and let me know how it is.It has been requested by several folks [15:03] it only shows up on the newbieboard [15:03] *** Quits: Bixer (Connection reset by peer) [15:03] cool :) [15:04] neat TD :) [15:04] <@Rowdy> cool TD [15:04] :) [15:04] :P~ [15:04] tia.. this chat will be archieved and put up later today or tomorrow at the latest.. so you can see what you missed.. except for the part where I was booted hehehe [15:05] lol [15:05] <@Rowdy> ok... glad we got the ideaall set :) Hate to take off so soon but I have to go get a few things taken care of. [15:05] I think I have most of it.. I'll be looking at the board for a rundown of the plan [15:05] <@Rowdy> Have a great day all and we'll continue this all on the newbie board :) [15:05] I gotta go tooRowdy.. [15:05] Frank is probably working that up right at the moment too ;) [15:05] <@Rowdy> c'yas [15:05] see y'all later :) [15:06] *** Quits: Rowdy (QUIT: User exited) [15:06] see ya Rowdy [15:06] *** Retrieving #netsurprise info... [15:06] <@Frank> c ya Rowdy, tia [15:06] *** Quits: tia (Connection reset by peer) [15:06] aaarrrrrrg.. the net [15:06] what's the new function on the newbieboard TD? [15:07] *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +o WillyB [15:07] *** WillyB changes topic to 'Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom! - WebCreators Only'