[14:01] *** WareWolfWilly changes topic to 'Newbie Chat! TOPIC: The Newbie Board Project::Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom! - Adult Entertainment Folks Only!!!'
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[14:01] <5elvira_tia> hey Bixer :)
[14:01] <5LilBiggz> 2 many options gives me a headache
[14:01] <5FreakyFrank> hi Bixer!
[14:01] <5FreakyFrank> lol
[14:01] <5Bixer> nice costume tia
[14:01] <5elvira_tia> hehe
[14:01] <5Bixer> whooaFreaky
[14:02] <5LilBiggz> ive been trying to do adult sites for a long time but am not much on chating
[14:02] <5EvilChris> hi Bixer
[14:02] <5LilBiggz> its not personal just havent done much of it
[14:02] <5@WareWolfWilly> hello Bixer!
[14:02] <5elvira_tia> I found it hard to chat and post at first too LilBiggz but you have to put forth the effort.. it's way worth it believe me
[14:03] <5Bixer> who's that werewolflol
[14:03] <5Bixer> hi EvilChris
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[14:03] <5elvira_tia> Crawdad!!
[14:03] <5@WareWolfWilly> Friday be sure to tune in to ScriptSchool LilBiggz... we will be talking about irc and mirc ;)
[14:03] <5Crawdad> hiya tia
[14:03] <5LilBiggz> yea i guess you need to know the peeps runnin theSHOW lmmfao
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[14:03] <5@WareWolfWilly> hi ya Crawdad and gonZo! :)
[14:04] <5elvira_tia> hiya gonZo!!!
[14:04] <5Crawdad> hiya willy
[14:04] <5LilBiggz> h crawdad
[14:04] <5Crawdad> bigzz, wassup bro
[14:04] <5gonZo> Howdy all
[14:04] <5LilBiggz> noda
[14:04] <5LilBiggz> u
[14:04] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +o FreakyFrank
[14:05] <5Crawdad> not much, just working...happy halloween all
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[14:05] <5leg3> Hola
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[14:05] <5elvira_tia> hey leg3
[14:05] <5LilBiggz> u guys r switchen and hittin hydros all kinds of FREAKY SHIT
[14:05] <5Crawdad> hi leg and annie
[14:05] <5elvira_tia> Annie :))
[14:05] <5@WareWolfWilly> thanks Crawdad! HappyHolloween to ya too!
[14:05] <5@WareWolfWilly> Hello leg3
[14:05] <5@WareWolfWilly> hi ya Annieb :-)
[14:05] <5Annieb> Hi guys
[14:05] <5@WareWolfWilly> 7Happy Halloween!!!!
[14:05] <5Annieb> o my, I didn't know i was suppose to come in costume!
[14:05] <5elvira_tia> lol.. cool Willy
[14:06] <5Annieb> hehehe
[14:06] <5LilBiggz> 0,2HAPPY WEEN
[14:06] <5elvira_tia> you can change right here Annie while we watch!lol
[14:06] <5Annieb> I'be been eating the trick or treat candy all morning
[14:06] <5@WareWolfWilly> you can change in here Annieb... we won't look! ;) hehehe
[14:06] <5Annieb> hehehe
[14:06] <5elvira_tia> lol Willy.. great minds and all :)
[14:06] <5gonZo> Ill take pics
[14:06] <5LilBiggz> i learned that from chattin with CEN Girls yo
[14:06] <5@WareWolfWilly> LOLOL!
[14:06] <5LilBiggz> lol
[14:06] *** Annieb is now known as Pumpkin_Annieb
[14:06] <5elvira_tia> hahaha.. good one Annie
[14:07] <5@WareWolfWilly> wooohoooo Annieb!
[14:07] <5@WareWolfWilly> hehehehe
[14:07] <5LilBiggz> is that pumpkin pie
[14:07] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> not bad for a homemade one
[14:07] <5Crawdad> i'm already hitting the reese's peanut butter cups, if i keep this up I'll be handing out pennies tonite
[14:07] * @WareWolfWilly Hooooowwwwwwlllllllsss
[14:07] <5elvira_tia> oooooooo
[14:07] <5@WareWolfWilly> rofl Crawdad!
[14:07] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> i eat a whole bag of them this morning
[14:07] <5LilBiggz> yea my kids got no treats i eat em all
[14:07] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> on to the baby ruths and tooties rolls
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[14:08] <5@WareWolfWilly> Hello cheekymarie :-)
[14:08] <5Crawdad> think i got a box of crackers in the cupboard
[14:08] <5elvira_tia> hey Marie :))
[14:08] <5@FreakyFrank> OK folks, I'm sure more will come soon. seems that what I see is the general site groups site was ready this one http://www.wet-pussy-porn.com/amateur-newbies/group.html and the Niche group has this one http://www.adultplaces.com/porn/fetishsite/ and the AVS group this one http://www.bjs4u.com/hardcore is this correct?
[14:08] <5Crawdad> i'll hand out crackers
[14:08] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> it's bad for their teeth anyway
[14:08] <5cheekymarie> Hey Warewolfwilly
[14:08] <5cheekymarie> hey Frank
[14:08] <5LilBiggz> i hate carvin those damn pumpkins
[14:08] <5cheekymarie> Hi Crawdad
[14:08] <5cheekymarie> hi Tia
[14:08] <5Crawdad> hiya marie, how ya feelin'
[14:08] <5elvira_tia> fetish is correct :)
[14:08] <5@FreakyFrank> hi cheeky
[14:08] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> my kids did the pumpkin
[14:08] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> i got to get some work done
[14:09] * Pumpkin_Annieb goes to her conner
[14:09] <5cheekymarie> hi guys happy halloween to you - that was yesterday for me :)
[14:09] <5elvira_tia> hehe Annie.. see ya later
[14:09] <5LilBiggz> where u get a corner?
[14:09] *** Crawdad is now known as Creepy_Crawdad
[14:09] <5cheekymarie> Not bad Crawdad just waking up 
[14:09] <5elvira_tia> ohhhCreepy Crawdad.. hehe
[14:09] <5@WareWolfWilly> General: http://www.wet-pussy-porn.com/amateur-newbies/group.html
[14:09] <5@WareWolfWilly> Niche: http://www.adultplaces.com/porn/fetishsite/
[14:09] <5@WareWolfWilly> AVS: http://www.bjs4u.com/hardcore/
[14:09] <5@FreakyFrank> cheeky, I noticed that you got some feedback, is that site done now sweetie.
[14:09] <5LilBiggz> crawdad how u morph
[14:10] <5cheekymarie> hmmm - yep it is done
[14:10] <5Creepy_Crawdad> commands in MIRC
[14:10] <5@WareWolfWilly> goodDay Marie.. and G'mornin to ya as well!
[14:10] <5LilBiggz> im not there yet
[14:10] <5cheekymarie> :) WillyB - what did you think of that email?
[14:11] <5elvira_tia> how about we do one site at a time guys?
[14:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> didn't ever recieve it cheekymarie
[14:11] <5@FreakyFrank> Willy, you gonna be our bar tender?
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[14:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> send it to willyb@thud.net
[14:11] <5LilBiggz> hey frank r u with web legal?
[14:11] <5cheekymarie> ok - will send it again - :) ok
[14:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> yes sir FreakyFrank! :)
[14:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> sorry Marie
[14:11] <5@FreakyFrank> nope
[14:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> don't know what happened
[14:11] <5LilBiggz> k
[14:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> didn't get one from PMGames either
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[14:12] <5@FreakyFrank> Web-legal and Makitso are providing the group project prizes
[14:12] <5elvira_tia> hiya Rowdy :))
[14:12] <5@WareWolfWilly> Welcome Rowdy :)
[14:12] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +o Rowdy
[14:12] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: -o WareWolfWilly
[14:12] <5Snikks> damn all these scary names
[14:12] <5LilBiggz> oh ok i thought i seen that
[14:12] <5@Rowdy> Afternoon all :)
[14:12] <5WareWolfWilly> Hello SneakySnikkers
[14:12] <5elvira_tia> you're the treat Snikks.. hehe
[14:12] <5WareWolfWilly> !
[14:12] <5Creepy_Crawdad> hiya rowdy
[14:12] <5cheekymarie> hi Rowdy
[14:12] <5Snikks> lolol
[14:12] <5Snikks> hey ya Rowdy
[14:12] <5WareWolfWilly> hehehehe
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[14:12] <5Creepy_Crawdad> i'll have me a Snikss bar
[14:12] <5LilBiggz> rowdy rowdy
[14:13] <5@FreakyFrank> Cool CD's, I need one too.
[14:13] <5cheekymarie> Willy just sent it - it's got my real email addy on it - sorry :)
[14:13] <5WareWolfWilly> hi ya Nola :)
[14:13] <5@FreakyFrank> hi nola!
[14:13] <5elvira_tia> hi nola!!
[14:13] <5WareWolfWilly> General: http://www.wet-pussy-porn.com/amateur-newbies/group.html
[14:13] <5WareWolfWilly> Niche: http://www.adultplaces.com/porn/fetishsite/
[14:13] <5WareWolfWilly> AVS: http://www.bjs4u.com/hardcore/
[14:13] <5nola> afternoon all
[14:13] <5Snikks> hahahahah WareWolfWilly!!!
[14:13] <5Creepy_Crawdad> nola!wassup freak?
[14:13] <5WareWolfWilly> All that is correct???
[14:13] <5Snikks> hahahahah
[14:13] <5Creepy_Crawdad> lol
[14:13] <5cheekymarie> Hi nola - are you feeling better today?
[14:13] <5LilBiggz> Hey u guys did great with the website
[14:13] <5Snikks> elvira_tia lmao
[14:13] <5elvira_tia> that's right for fetish Willy, I don't know about the others
[14:13] <5Creepy_Crawdad> damn, I'm outa candy...think I'm running to the store this afternoon
[14:13] <5@FreakyFrank> to my knowledge WillyB
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[14:14] <5Snikks> has to think now
[14:14] <5cheekymarie> you keep putting that url up - whats up with it?
[14:14] <5WareWolfWilly> LOLOL Snikks!
[14:14] <5@FreakyFrank> Seems everyone has said they are done
[14:14] <5LilBiggz> i checked it out and learned a little more about what we are trying to do here
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[14:14] <5WareWolfWilly> Those are the 3 groups' projects cheekymarie
[14:14] <5@FreakyFrank> what url cheeky?
[14:14] <5cheekymarie> sorry - just keep seeing mine lol 
[14:15] <5@FreakyFrank> it's all of them, lol
[14:15] <5WareWolfWilly> wb nla
[14:15] <5@FreakyFrank> hey it's nice to be noticed
[14:15] <5Creepy_Crawdad> are you gonna announce the winner of your kewl prizes today frank?
[14:15] <5cheekymarie> Has everyone completed the first part of the project
[14:15] <5@FreakyFrank> Project's not over
[14:15] <5LilBiggz> brb
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[14:15] * Sound request: can't find 'computer.au'
[14:15] * nola fiddles with the computer.
[14:15] <5elvira_tia> hey TW!!
[14:15] <5WareWolfWilly> hello TW
[14:16] <5nola> I'm really not all that bright today
[14:16] <5Creepy_Crawdad> i thought everyone was done
[14:16] <5cheekymarie> don't we have to design 2 more sites each?
[14:16] *** Snikks is now known as GrimreaperSnikks
[14:16] <5TimeWalker> I figured I'd come learn something :) hehehe
[14:16] <5@Rowdy> Been some great work on the Newbie Project from quite a few people... of course there have beenna few that has done nothing as well which we'll be contacting the group leaders to find out who contributed and who did not as only active members of the specific groups are going to be eligble for the prizes
[14:16] <5@FreakyFrank> yea, with this part
[14:16] <5GrimreaperSnikks> hahahah hey ya TWalker
[14:16] <5cheekymarie> Hi TimeWalker long time no see :)
[14:16] <5@Rowdy> Hi TW
[14:16] <5Creepy_Crawdad> ah, i see
[14:16] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> hey HoneyWalker
[14:16] <5Kre8t0r> there goes the neighborhood :p
[14:16] <5LilBiggz> wdfwt
[14:16] <5TimeWalker> Rowdy teach me dude :)
[14:16] <5Kre8t0r> hehehe
[14:17] <5GrimreaperSnikks> LMAO Kre8t0r
[14:17] <5@Rowdy> TW .. you know to much already...lol
[14:17] * Sound request: can't find 'flush.au'
[14:17] * LilBiggz Heads to the bathroom!
[14:17] <5elvira_tia> lol
[14:17] <5WareWolfWilly> rofl
[14:17] <5TimeWalker> well shit!
[14:17] <5WareWolfWilly> hahaha Biggz!
[14:17] <5nola> Unfortunately I've been working on the thesis nonstop and I haven't done any design or even launched dreamweaver or any ftp program in over 2 weeks
[14:17] <5Creepy_Crawdad> shame on you nola
[14:18] <5LilBiggz> dream weaver i got that but never have tried it yet
[14:18] <5LilBiggz> is it any good?
[14:18] <5nola> No shame comes when I announce I haven't had a drink in 2 weeks either
[14:18] * TimeWalker goes to corner to pout.. rowdy wont teach me :(
[14:18] <5Creepy_Crawdad> i use coffeecup, only editor i got
[14:18] <5elvira_tia> wtg nola :))
[14:18] <5nola> lilbiggz, I like it
[14:18] <5WareWolfWilly> Here are the URL's to the Projects.... 
[14:18] <5WareWolfWilly> General: http://www.wet-pussy-porn.com/amateur-newbies/group.html
[14:18] <5WareWolfWilly> Niche: http://www.adultplaces.com/porn/fetishsite/
[14:18] <5WareWolfWilly> AVS: http://www.bjs4u.com/hardcore/
[14:18] <5@Rowdy> OK.. how do we want to do the judging on these sites? Have the whole board vote or do we want some individuals not related to the project do the judging?
[14:18] <5nola> its not on purpose tia - I like to drink
[14:19] <5@Rowdy> TW ... hard to teach those that know already :)
[14:19] <5elvira_tia> I vote for individuals not connected to the project
[14:19] <5elvira_tia> oh ok nola :)
[14:19] <5nola> Tia has a good idea
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[14:19] <5Creepy_Crawdad> Rowdy, i vote that you, willyb, and frank decide
[14:19] <5elvira_tia> DangerDave!!
[14:19] <5cheekymarie> hi Dave :) 
[14:19] <5nola> hola dave
[14:19] <5Creepy_Crawdad> and throw dangerdave in there now that he's here
[14:19] <5DangerDave> just passing .. saw the light on...thought I would drop in.:))
[14:19] <5Creepy_Crawdad> Hiya DD
[14:19] <5@Rowdy> Hi DangerDave
[14:19] <5@FreakyFrank> Hi DD!
[14:20] * TimeWalker plays judge!
[14:20] <5DangerDave> Hey RallHey Rowdy>:0
[14:20] <5WareWolfWilly> hahaha TW!
[14:20] <5DangerDave> Halloween names boys??:))
[14:20] <5elvira_tia> good to see you DangerDave :)
[14:20] <5WareWolfWilly> what do you think of the 3 sites TimeWalker?
[14:20] <5LilBiggz> DD i have seen the post but dont know ya
[14:20] <5GrimreaperSnikks> goes with the majority vote on that one
[14:20] <5WareWolfWilly> GDay DangerDave!
[14:20] <5Creepy_Crawdad> dangerdave from the darkside
[14:20] <5LilBiggz> so how the f r u
[14:21] <5DangerDave> :)
[14:21] <5TimeWalker> site #1 good colors good span even on large screen sizes
[14:21] <5@Rowdy> I was thinking maybe GreenGuy, Kath and one other person do the judging..... maybe DangerDave?
[14:21] <5LilBiggz> ur scarin me know crawdad
[14:21] <5DangerDave> LilBiggz,I am an old porn merchant from AU... NOWyou know me.:))
[14:21] <5Creepy_Crawdad> lol, i was just trying to come up with a halloween name for DD
[14:21] <5elvira_tia> which one was site #1 TW?
[14:21] <5@FreakyFrank> That sounds like a winner to me Rowdy.
[14:21] <5@Rowdy> I figure since Frank, Willy and I give input all the time on sites... it might be better to have a different party do the judging
[14:21] <5TimeWalker> general
[14:21] <5LilBiggz> kewl
[14:22] <5nola> merchant - good title, but I prefer smulord
[14:22] <5DangerDave> Happy to give some input if needed Rowdy...
[14:22] <5LilBiggz> damn glad 2 meet u DD
[14:22] <5TimeWalker> good use of supportive text along with graphic advertising.. 
[14:22] <5@FreakyFrank> that's right we may be tarnished, lol
[14:22] <5elvira_tia> I like that idea too Rowdy
[14:22] <5nola> smutlord
[14:22] <5WareWolfWilly> the General Site elvira_tia
[14:22] <5Creepy_Crawdad> greenguy, kath, and dangerdave
[14:22] <5elvira_tia> sounds like a good plan
[14:22] <5nola> If they have the time it would be great
[14:22] <5DangerDave> CrawDadI have a built in on.:)
[14:22] <5DangerDave> one
[14:22] <5Creepy_Crawdad> yuppers
[14:23] <5@Rowdy> DangerDave .. great!
[14:23] <5@Rowdy> DangerDave, send either Frank or I your e-mail so we can include it on the e-mail we'll send out with all the sites' urls and so forth... k?
[14:23] <5DangerDave> Okwhat did I just volunteer for..:))))
[14:23] <5Creepy_Crawdad> i kinda volunteered ya DD, sorry
[14:23] <5elvira_tia> hehe
[14:23] <5@FreakyFrank> lol
[14:23] <5TimeWalker> cept the niche site doesn't expand properly the text on the second page turns into one line
[14:23] <5WareWolfWilly> General site... I like the layout as well ... Text links to sponsors top and bottom
[14:24] <5DangerDave> webmaster at dangerdave.com.au
[14:24] <5@FreakyFrank> got it DD!
[14:24] <5DangerDave> :)
[14:24] <5LilBiggz> hey dave what is .au
[14:24] <5@Rowdy> DangerDave, it's just to review the three different project sites and choose which one you think is best
[14:24] <5elvira_tia> you mean it scrolls TW?
[14:24] <5WareWolfWilly> ah.. no <br> or tables on Niche.. 2nd page
[14:24] <5TimeWalker> and I dont like the use of a single banner with the gallery links.. it's not as effective as it could be
[14:25] <5Creepy_Crawdad> always underneath
[14:25] <5TimeWalker> nope tia 
[14:25] <5nola> lilbiggs, it describes backward people
[14:25] <5DangerDave> I am a bit stuck at the mo as we still have only half the connections out of AU to the US..NO DSL:(
[14:25] <5TimeWalker> I mean there is no width control
[14:25] <5LilBiggz> im really lame on most of these things
[14:25] <5Creepy_Crawdad> lol
[14:25] <5WareWolfWilly> need to use tables 
[14:25] <5TimeWalker> She put her fishnet stockings on her long sexy legs real slow, and spread her thighs slightly giving me a peek at her crotchless panties. Slipping heels on her feet that made her toes show at the tip, she slid her foot up my leg touching my scrote with the patten leather, I'm strokin myself now :) 
[14:25] <5cheekymarie> Dave we have dsl here - but hardly any yesterday
[14:25] <5TimeWalker> that text expands side to side no control over the "look" of it
[14:25] <5EvilChris> ping
[14:25] <5Creepy_Crawdad> think it means australia lilbiggz
[14:25] <5nola> did I write that I forget???
[14:25] <5DangerDave> oooooooooh time walker...dont get me goin it's too early.:)
[14:26] <5elvira_tia> yes, that would look better in a table, I agree TW
[14:26] <5GrimreaperSnikks> paints his penis
[14:26] <5elvira_tia> no I wrote it :)
[14:26] <5DangerDave> LilBiggzAU= Australia
[14:26] <5LilBiggz> thanks GOOOOD drrrrrrrrrrrrr
[14:26] <5TimeWalker> still needs width limiting for proper effect
[14:26] <5DangerDave> MArie/Steve... yeahzero DSl here since 9am yesterday.:(((
[14:26] <5cheekymarie> Gee Steve has been doing that lately too Snikks - what have you done wrong???
[14:26] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> or/and <br>'s
[14:26] <5elvira_tia> yep
[14:26] <5WareWolfWilly> pong
[14:26] <5nola> I wasn't sure tia, as I said my mind doesn't work like it used to
[14:26] <5GrimreaperSnikks> lol
[14:27] <5Creepy_Crawdad> ping
[14:27] <5TimeWalker> same thing on gallery2
[14:27] <5cheekymarie> that is when ours played up too - but even dial-up was slow too
[14:27] <5LilBiggz> is dsl faster than cable guys
[14:27] <5EvilChris> cable is faster
[14:27] * TimeWalker shuts up and goes back to his corner
[14:27] <5cheekymarie> but dsl is back up and running since about 8pm last night
[14:27] <5nola> LB depends how far you live from the station
[14:27] <5EvilChris> but cable is a lot less secure
[14:27] <5Kre8t0r> depends on the company
[14:27] <5WareWolfWilly> lol EvilChris!
[14:27] <5@Rowdy> my dsl is great usually... 700 - 800k up and down
[14:27] * elvira_tia is listening to TW's good suggestions :)
[14:27] <5WareWolfWilly> you have some very good input TW
[14:27] <5@Rowdy> Hiya EvilChris
[14:27] <5EvilChris> my T1 is faster
[14:27] <5Kre8t0r> lol
[14:27] <5EvilChris> Hey Rowdy!:-)
[14:28] <5WareWolfWilly> lol Chris!
[14:28] <5TimeWalker> so you want me to finish?
[14:28] <5LilBiggz> i got cable and they are basically trying to give me free modems and all kinds of shit 4 me to switch
[14:28] <5EvilChris> if only I could make money to pay for my T1
[14:28] <5EvilChris> LOL
[14:28] <5WareWolfWilly> yes... please do!
[14:28] <5@Rowdy> TW ... any advice is good!! appreciate ya taking the time to look it over
[14:28] <5LilBiggz> T3 YO
[14:28] <5EvilChris> LilBiggz.... DSL is fine too...it's pretty fast, but most DSL companies use local caching techniques
[14:28] <5Creepy_Crawdad> OC3
[14:29] <5Creepy_Crawdad> I wish
[14:29] <5LilBiggz> kewl
[14:29] <5EvilChris> ie... you make a post to a board and you see the companies latest copy of the cached file for however long they cache for
[14:29] <5Creepy_Crawdad> brb, the fedex guy is here.....
[14:29] <5@FreakyFrank> TW you doing cool! I'm reading every word.
[14:29] <5TimeWalker> the avs
[14:29] <5LilBiggz> i need about 5g's a month 2 get some real shit
[14:29] <5TimeWalker> what type of avs is it reg prefered?
[14:30] <5LilBiggz> im just a web brat hell i dont know a dos command from my ass
[14:30] <5elvira_tia> too bad Security man and Boodrow aren't here, they did the page layout, but I'll tell them what you said TW
[14:30] <5WareWolfWilly> learn unix LilBiggz hehehe
[14:30] <5cheekymarie> it is only a template so it isn't signed up with anyone on that - it would normally be with Cyberage
[14:30] <5TimeWalker> but the type!
[14:30] <5@Rowdy> TW .. just a general AVS as we didn't want to get to specific this time around
[14:30] <5LilBiggz> k i will try
[14:30] <5WareWolfWilly> as a regular avs cheekymarie?
[14:30] <5TimeWalker> ok so max prefered
[14:30] <5WareWolfWilly> or prefurred?
[14:31] <5cheekymarie> reg avs
[14:31] <5TimeWalker> #1 thing it's missing on the front page is ADVERTISING
[14:31] <5TimeWalker> get a softcore table add on that page
[14:32] <5WareWolfWilly> advertising for the avs you are pushing/ signed up/ with.. yep
[14:32] <5cheekymarie> Only advertising on the avs page should now be for advertising the avs - not the sponsors - I want them in not going off somewhere else
[14:32] <5LilBiggz> so many things to learn, do all of you guys know java cgi pearl unix lenix kinkos linkos and all that shit...?
[14:32] <5cheekymarie> outside sorry
[14:32] <5DangerDave> Nedd to pick your focus...selling the AVSor selling anything.
[14:32] <5TimeWalker> MONEY is money no matter where it comes from tho
[14:32] <5leg3> if anyone would like hosting, i got 5megabit and 10megabit real cheap, i been in the business for 3 years, but just got an office with a big pipe of bandwidth.... Msg me personally
[14:32] <5cheekymarie> no - why take people away from signing up with the avs
[14:32] <5TimeWalker> and if it's not platinum your wasting your time NOT going for any sale you can get
[14:33] <5cheekymarie> yes - but I have good sponsor on the inside not on the outside - I want them to sign up with me - I am pushing avs sites not sponsors
[14:33] <5cheekymarie> on the outside
[14:33] <5TimeWalker> Well thats not the "norm" with reg/prefered avs
[14:33] <5nola> for me sponsors on the outside pay more than an avs membership
[14:33] <5cheekymarie> Sponsors sites some are crap - why send them off before I have some money in my hand
[14:34] <5TimeWalker> platinum is the only one I want members on
[14:34] <5@Rowdy> Marie.. I see your point but I also see TW's ... unless a person is specifically trying to build their own "avs empire" a sale is a sale :)
[14:34] <5TimeWalker> well let me rephrase that
[14:34] <5LilBiggz> i think maybe i should just back the fuck up and learn some shit and some people. im in over my head obviously
[14:34] * WareWolfWilly is listening
[14:34] <5@FreakyFrank> lol LilBiggz
[14:34] <5cheekymarie> I suppose avs sites depend on the webmaster and after speaking to lots of webmasters many agree that the only advertising on the outside should be for the avs
[14:34] <5TimeWalker> you should #1 look for money
[14:34] <5TimeWalker> #2 look for members on reg/prefered
[14:35] <5@Rowdy> LilBiggz, different folks have different skills .. and then some of us try to know a bit of everything that we can ...lol
[14:35] <5TimeWalker> I do not agree with you cheekymarie
[14:35] <5LilBiggz> do any of you work together:?
[14:35] <5@Rowdy> marie... you are correct.. any site depends on the webmaster personally on what's it's main goal is :)
[14:35] <5LilBiggz> its got 2 be easier if you do...
[14:35] <5@FreakyFrank> we're all webmaster LilBiggz, but I know what you mean.
[14:35] <5nola> I have to agree with TW - if I can pawn a surfer off to a ARS site it works for $35, while if they buy a cyberage membership I get $12 and they use my bandwidth
[14:36] <5cheekymarie> hmmm - that's fine :) I am not going to get into an argument about it, my avs sites sell this way so I will keep designing them this way
[14:36] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> reg avs for traffic, PLat for memebers
[14:36] <5Creepy_Crawdad> i'm back
[14:36] <5nola> whatever works!!!
[14:36] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> yup
[14:36] <5TimeWalker> ok I'll skip the rest of the avs.. cause I do not agree it!
[14:37] <5@FreakyFrank> If your making the profit and money then ya doing good
[14:37] <5@Rowdy> Different things work better for different folks... I know over the years I've had some success in areas where other said no money was to be made.. if it works for ya... fantastic :)
[14:37] <5GrimreaperSnikks> agreed Rowdy
[14:37] <5LilBiggz> i dont know an avs from a CGI so ill stfu
[14:37] <5@FreakyFrank> lol
[14:37] <5DangerDave> :)
[14:37] <5@FreakyFrank> You will LilBiggz
[14:38] * TimeWalker has done avs for the last 4 year.. I dont know nothing either.. I'll shut up too
[14:38] <5WareWolfWilly> lol LilBiggz!
[14:38] <5Pumpkin_Annieb> don't worry LilBiggz, before long you'll be telling us what to do!!
[14:38] <5LilBiggz> frank is 2 kewl
[14:38] <5LilBiggz> willy and crawdad big help as well
[14:38] <5@FreakyFrank> I was you at one time LilBiggz, never forget things like that, we all were.
[14:38] <5elvira_tia> shutting up isn't very productive TW.. and Marie, it never hurts to listen to others views and use what you want to use
[14:38] <5Creepy_Crawdad> me?i'm a peanut lookin' for a shell....
[14:39] <5cheekymarie> I started designing this way cause I found that surfers weren't buying on the outside but went through the sponsors on the inside of the site
[14:39] <5LilBiggz> idno about that annieb
[14:39] <5TimeWalker> marie
[14:39] <5nola> tia- they great mediator, we should send you to the middle east
[14:39] <5TimeWalker> if your using linklist and other assorted traffic sources
[14:39] <5elvira_tia> lol nola
[14:39] <5WareWolfWilly> yes elvira_tia... you are right there.. I have tried things that other ppl are doing that are making them money,... and it does not work for me
[14:39] <5LilBiggz> lol@craw
[14:40] <5TimeWalker> they are used to seeing advertising on the outside
[14:40] <5cheekymarie> I suppose we all have our opinions and our own preferences to the way we do things
[14:40] * Sound request: can't find 'flush.au'
[14:40] * nola Heads to the bathroom!
[14:40] <5TimeWalker> and in most of my test 25% of the linklist traffic make it to the inside of the site
[14:40] <5DangerDave> Time walker who said that was a law??
[14:40] <5nola> back in 5
[14:40] <5@FreakyFrank> yep, we are all different, 
[14:40] <5WareWolfWilly> the whole point is that if it makes you money.. you are doing Something right! LOL
[14:40] <5@FreakyFrank> and we learn from each other
[14:40] <5LilBiggz> SCARED DA SHIT OUTTA ME YOOOOOOO
[14:40] <5cheekymarie> yes TW I know that - hmm tgps2 are good and free sites promoting the avs works well too
[14:40] <5Creepy_Crawdad> shit, I've tried stuff, have it fail, try it again exactly the same way six months later and do alright with it, wierd this biz is
[14:40] <5WareWolfWilly> LOLOL nola!!!!
[14:40] <5TimeWalker> and that says to me.. I'm loosing 75% of my sale ability with no outside advertising
[14:41] <5TimeWalker> I just use gateway advertsing for the avs
[14:41] <5cheekymarie> hmm TW - well I use freesites to promote avs sites and they work well for me :)
[14:41] <5cheekymarie> with link lists traffic as well 
[14:42] <5@Rowdy> we all have different opinions as well as different traffic sources and (This is a big one) different selling/sites styles ... a combination of all three together make for a unique situation for everyone while at the same time.. similar in other areas ... nature of this business and that is good because if only one thing worked across the board ... there's know way we could share thoughts on new things
[14:42] <5LilBiggz> Man u guys need to gang up on some projects, you got everyone and all the tools...
[14:42] <5@FreakyFrank> very true LilBiggz very true
[14:42] <5Creepy_Crawdad> ummm, that's what we did on the group sites biggz....
[14:43] <5TimeWalker> I'm an independant sort! I know what works for me :)
[14:43] <5elvira_tia> TW.. you wanna be in on the project? :))
[14:43] <5Creepy_Crawdad> and u were a big part of it i might add
[14:43] <5@FreakyFrank> I think all of us can learn from LilBiggz
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[14:43] <5nola> maybe not
[14:43] <5Creepy_Crawdad> i killed him....eeeekkkk
[14:43] <5TimeWalker> tia not really but thanks.. I'm turning into as lude put it.. a traffic monger
[14:43] <5WareWolfWilly> lolol
[14:43] <5nola> you bastard
[14:43] <5elvira_tia> lol
[14:43] <5cheekymarie> hmm - well I have tried a few things and I design to what works for me. I thought this project was for that so newbies could see different designs not just suited to one person
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[14:44] <5Creepy_Crawdad> phew, he's alive
[14:44] <5@FreakyFrank> lol
[14:44] <5LilBiggz> watdafwzdat
[14:44] <5elvira_tia> it is Marie.. one thing that I've learned in this business is there are more than a few ways to defur a feline :))
[14:44] <5cheekymarie> different avs sites, different free sites :)
[14:44] <5@Rowdy> It is marie as by the time the whole project is done, there will be many exampples of each style of site hopfully :)
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[14:44] <5cheekymarie> lol 
[14:44] <5@FreakyFrank> well said tia
[14:45] <5Creepy_Crawdad> that's my line tia
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[14:45] <5elvira_tia> hehe.. I stole it from ya Crawdad :)
[14:45] <5@Rowdy> Hiya LE
[14:45] <5cheekymarie> hmmm - perhaps it may open peoples minds to the different styles of websites that are out there :)
[14:45] <5GrimreaperSnikks> hey ya baby!
[14:45] <5LE_TheScarytician> heya Rowdy
[14:45] <5Creepy_Crawdad> that's ok..i'll mail you the license
[14:45] <5@FreakyFrank> Hey LE
[14:45] <5elvira_tia> hey LE!!!
[14:45] <5Creepy_Crawdad> :-)
[14:45] <5LE_TheScarytician> hey FreakyFrank
[14:45] <5LE_TheScarytician> hi elvira_tia
[14:45] <5Creepy_Crawdad> hi laughing eyes
[14:45] <5WareWolfWilly> hello LE
[14:46] <5WareWolfWilly> :-)))
[14:46] <5LE_TheScarytician> hey Creepy_Crawdad and WareWolfWilly
[14:46] <5@Rowdy> Crawdad... thought yours was something along the lines of "bounce the bunny" lol
[14:46] <5TimeWalker> Oh Well I'm going back to my chat and work.. have 30 more galleries to make
[14:46] <5@FreakyFrank> lol Rowdy
[14:46] <5Creepy_Crawdad> lol rowdy
[14:46] <5@Rowdy> later TW .. thanks for the input
[14:46] <5elvira_tia> thanks for the info TW
[14:46] <5@FreakyFrank> By TW, thanks
[14:47] <5LilBiggz> i got people bouncin bunnys off my connection all day
[14:47] * TimeWalker waves and disappears
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[14:47] <5Creepy_Crawdad> my halloween costume this year is simple..box of wheaties with a knife sticking thru it.....CEREAL KILLER!!!
[14:47] <5elvira_tia> lol
[14:47] <5@FreakyFrank> Not like Crawdad, LilBiggz
[14:47] <5LilBiggz> ive tried 2 stop em but i just keep gettin drilled
[14:48] <5LilBiggz> lol@craw
[14:48] <5leg3> if anyone would like hosting, i got 5megabit and 10megabit real cheap, i been in the business for 3 years, but just got an office with a big pipe of bandwidth.... Msg me personally.
[14:48] <5GrimreaperSnikks> has anyone tried doing a small paysite, in which you become your own sponsor?
[14:48] <5nola> I think I'll be wearing kilt and carrying around my favorit Ewe, its a scottish thing
[14:48] <5elvira_tia> leg.. you going as spam for halloween
[14:48] <5Creepy_Crawdad> more info than i needed nola
[14:48] <5nola> hey it gets lonely some times
[14:48] <5LE_TheScarytician> lol elvira_tia
[14:48] <5WareWolfWilly> hehehehehehe
[14:48] <5Creepy_Crawdad> again, TMI
[14:49] <5@FreakyFrank> snikks, personally no, but I think anything can work with the right foreplanning
[14:49] <5LilBiggz> im going as a tired ass webmaster 3 day facial hair and all
[14:49] <5GrimreaperSnikks> thats my thinking too
[14:49] <5Creepy_Crawdad> showers are for pussies
[14:49] <5nola> tired ass webmasters don't pull chicks
[14:49] <5cheekymarie> we have our own paysite and we are own sponsor - designing freesites, tgp2s, avs sites that push to Marie's Place
[14:49] <5GrimreaperSnikks> working on one as we speak
[14:49] *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +o WareWolfWilly
[14:49] <5LilBiggz> while Drinking a YOHOO
[14:49] <5@FreakyFrank> makes sense and you got what it takes
[14:49] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +vvv Bixer cheekymarie Creepy_Crawdad
[14:49] <5LilBiggz> lolol
[14:49] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +vvv DangerDave elvira_tia GrimreaperSnikks
[14:49] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +vvv Kre8t0r LE_TheScarytician LilBiggz
[14:50] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +vvv nola Pumpkin_Annieb webmiko
[14:50] <5@FreakyFrank> WTF, lol
[14:50] <5+GrimreaperSnikks> 8)
[14:50] <5+LilBiggz> wtfru doin
[14:50] <5+elvira_tia> getting a little carried away with the v's aren'tcha Willy? hahaha
[14:50] <5@WareWolfWilly> :-)
[14:50] <5+nola> ????????????//
[14:50] <5@WareWolfWilly> hehehe
[14:50] <5@WareWolfWilly> for Javachat.. ya all have the Buzz now!
[14:50] <5@WareWolfWilly> lol
[14:50] <5+nola> OK
[14:50] <5+LilBiggz> this is like a bad roller coaster guys
[14:51] <5+LE_TheScarytician> ==========\_/~~~ did someone say buzz?
[14:51] <5@WareWolfWilly> hahahaha
[14:51] <5+LE_TheScarytician> lol
[14:51] <5+nola> Don't worry LB I'm getting dumber by the minute
[14:51] <5+elvira_tia> you'll feel better when you throw up LilBiggz 
[14:51] <5+LilBiggz> pass it u hippy...
[14:51] <5@FreakyFrank> snikks, I know you ain't a newbie you can make it happen if you want.
[14:51] <5+LilBiggz> lol nola
[14:51] * +LE_TheScarytician ============\_/~~~ passes around room
[14:52] * @WareWolfWilly misses HippyDude
[14:52] <5@FreakyFrank> LilBiggz, you just to cool dude, lol
[14:52] <5+GrimreaperSnikks> thanks FreakyFrank, I'm goin with it..kinda test the waters deal
[14:52] <5+LilBiggz> i have tia multiple times
[14:52] <5+cheekymarie> Snikks what sort of paysite are you designing?
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[14:52] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +v dallasdeb
[14:52] <5@Rowdy> Hiya dallasdeb
[14:52] <5+GrimreaperSnikks> hardcore
[14:52] <5@FreakyFrank> cool I'd love to hear the results!
[14:52] <5@FreakyFrank> hi dallasdeb
[14:52] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +v leg3
[14:52] <5+nola> Snikks, whats the worst thing that could happen, you lose some free time
[14:52] <5+cheekymarie> Hi Dallasdeb
[14:52] <5+dallasdeb> Morning allYAWN!!
[14:52] <5+GrimreaperSnikks> 8) nola
[14:52] <5+elvira_tia> so Rowdy, did we decide about who's judging the sites or are you still thinking about it?
[14:52] <5+LE_TheScarytician> which he has plenty of lol
[14:52] <5+LilBiggz> heya deb
[14:52] <5+nola> hey dallas
[14:52] <5+cheekymarie> sounds good - are you doing your own content, or buying?
[14:53] <5@WareWolfWilly> hello dallasdeb
[14:53] <5@WareWolfWilly> :)
[14:53] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> hiya deb
[14:53] <5+elvira_tia> hey dallasdeb
[14:53] <5+dallasdeb> :)
[14:53] <5+LE_TheScarytician> he has more content than you can shake Willys willy at lol
[14:53] <5@Rowdy> free time... someone still has that shit? hell.. thought it was nothing more than a legend by now...ya know ... something your granddad said "way back when there was this thing called free time" roflmao :)
[14:53] <5@FreakyFrank> lol
[14:53] <5@WareWolfWilly> LOL LE_TheScarytician!!!!
[14:53] <5+LE_TheScarytician> lol
[14:53] <5+nola> kind of like bigfoot??
[14:53] <5@FreakyFrank> lol
[14:53] <5+LilBiggz> lol
[14:54] * +elvira_tia sleeps during her free time
[14:54] <5@WareWolfWilly> I have heard of it Rowdy.. used to enjoy it as a kid... hehehe... 
[14:54] <5@Rowdy> tia .. talking to Greenguy now about it... and still have to check with Kath and then we got a yes from DangerDave
[14:54] <5+GrimreaperSnikks> I just wondered how they may do as it's a new venture for me
[14:54] <5+elvira_tia> great :))
[14:54] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> Frank...what's free time?
[14:54] <5+DangerDave> Hi Deb...
[14:54] <5@WareWolfWilly> DangerDave from Down Under!
[14:54] <5@FreakyFrank> what? never heard of it
[14:55] <5@Rowdy> Hey crawdad... can ya at least wash that cookie pan out before tomorrow mornings serving please :)))
[14:55] <5+dallasdeb> Oh, I get it, its halloween!! I want a creepy name too!!
[14:55] <5@FreakyFrank> let's see I've been up since 9AM yesterday, lol
[14:55] <5@WareWolfWilly> hey.. you all are gonna be at the ANS Party ???only have one request for tunes
[14:55] <5+cheekymarie> Small paysites I have heard are pulling in slowly at the moment like everyone else... but you just have to keep on working on it 
[14:55] <5+LilBiggz> i heard that frank...
[14:55] <5+elvira_tia> ohhh forgot about the requests!!
[14:55] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> it got cold and the dogs drank it this morning rowdy
[14:55] <5@WareWolfWilly> have to post on the main board tia ;)
[14:55] <5+cheekymarie> We do - we have constant sign-ups, but we do our own pushing of the sites
[14:55] <5+LilBiggz> and i havent broken a sweat...
[14:56] <5@WareWolfWilly> I watch that for requests! ;)
[14:56] <5+nola> As long as we're all just here and fucking around how about a site review --- Its a free big tit site, something I did a while back and it gets good traffic but doesn't make any money. I will have some free time in a week, and want to revamp it.http://www.neworleanstoys.com/freetit/
[14:56] <5+elvira_tia> I haven't had time to even read the main board in days!
[14:56] <5+cheekymarie> with freesites, avs sites and steve designs lots of tgp2 sites
[14:56] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> Willyb, acdc, BIG BALLS
[14:56] <5@WareWolfWilly> I read it 2+ times a day hehehe.. 
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[14:56] <5@WareWolfWilly> hello unclesam
[14:56] <5@FreakyFrank> hi unclesam!
[14:56] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> please rise
[14:56] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> hiya unclesam
[14:57] <5unclesam> hey creepy
[14:57] * @WareWolfWilly plays the battle hym of the replic
[14:57] <5+LilBiggz> yep those r biGGG
[14:57] <5unclesam> hey ware
[14:57] <5unclesam> freaky
[14:57] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> mine eyes have seen the glory....
[14:57] *** WareWolfWilly sets mode: +v unclesam
[14:57] <5@Rowdy> nola.. the index page alone is kinda a problem... the text is to small and doesn't stand out... scrolled right past it all without even thinking
[14:58] <5+elvira_tia> hiya unclesam!!
[14:58] <5+unclesam> hiya elvira tia
[14:58] <5@Rowdy> Ya need to catch the surfers eyes long enough to prime them verbally for the frustration they should fine inside until they buy a membership ... lol
[14:58] <5+nola> it was more for SE than anything else, but it should be changed
[14:58] <5@Rowdy> fine=find
[14:58] <5+elvira_tia> well put Rowdy!lol
[14:58] <5@WareWolfWilly> yep Rowdy.. and Yellow text stands out.. learned that at the Aussie Chat last week ;)
[14:59] <5@FreakyFrank> I like Rowdy,s philosophy
[15:00] <5@WareWolfWilly> Rowdy knows... it is not about how pretty the site is.. it's all about getting the surfer to the sponsor w/ a sale
[15:00] <5+LilBiggz> Gess i need some kinda guidence counselor
[15:00] <5@Rowdy> on the main page... the gallery links stand way out but nothing else does..... while you don't want to hide the gallery links, you do want to try and tease them a bit more with that noticeable text :)
[15:00] <5@FreakyFrank> shit LilBiggz how many more ya need, look at how manys here, lol
[15:00] <5+elvira_tia> what about the text links.. when you link up all the text like that is it considered blind?
[15:01] <5+LilBiggz> lolol frank
[15:01] <5@WareWolfWilly> hahaha FreakyFrank!!!!
[15:01] <5@Rowdy> Willy.. good point.. pretty sites are great (yes, I have a few) but at the same time the surfer wants porn...not fancy site graphics or a bunch of slowloading banners
[15:01] <5+LilBiggz> i just need to throw somtin together and let you guys help me fix it
[15:01] <5+nola> I don't think its blind text links, it didn't have any problems with GG or Tommy
[15:01] <5+elvira_tia> right LilBiggz that's what the board is for
[15:02] <5@WareWolfWilly> yep.. and what FM was saying on his show FM Radio... Less graphics>?faster d/l for the 56k'er and more sales cause of speed
[15:02] <5@FreakyFrank> as long as you move forward LilBiggz you'll get there
[15:02] <5@Rowdy> tia... I like to make certain words ina paragraph links... seems to get me more clicks than the whole thing being linked. I think it's because information sites have single word links instead of whole paragraph so you get the reading surefers attention more by just having specific words linked
[15:03] <5@WareWolfWilly> When I was surfing for porn.. I closed sites that took longer than I wanted to wait.. and moved on to the next one on the list
[15:03] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> you can "train" a surfer that way rowdy
[15:03] <5+nola> all my newer sites are pretty simple and they do better, but I did that one back when I thought sites should be pretty
[15:03] <5+LilBiggz> well i got just a few gallerys made up and as soon as i can get a good setup i can start bombing them...
[15:03] <5+elvira_tia> good idea Rowdy, I asked because I'm not too up on what is acceptable in a link for the linklists
[15:03] <5+dallasdeb> Gotta go and get ready for work. Just thought I'd pop in and say hi. Catch you later:)
[15:03] <5+LilBiggz> i kinda like the tgps though
[15:03] <5+nola> Willy, what do you mean when you were???????
[15:03] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> i do alot of tgp and my motto there is the simpler the better...quick load that sucker
[15:03] <5@FreakyFrank> good to see ya dallasdeb!
[15:03] <5@WareWolfWilly> k.. thanks for coming dallasdeb! havea great day!
[15:03] <5+dallasdeb> bye!!!
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[15:03] <5@WareWolfWilly> lol nola!
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[15:04] <5+LilBiggz> u make any $$ at it crawdad?
[15:04] <5@WareWolfWilly> back when I was not a webmaster
[15:04] <5@Rowdy> tia.. most linklists accept both ways... but personally I have better luck with specific words being linked on the average free site (just did a little test of that subject on a fe wof my sites)
[15:04] <5+elvira_tia> cool!
[15:04] * +elvira_tia is taking notes :)
[15:04] <5+nola> and now its all just site research, right.
[15:05] <5+nola> anyway, that's what I tell myself, I'm not surfing I'm doing research
[15:05] <5@Rowdy> crawdad... want a tgp trick .. or the basics for one anyhow?
[15:05] <5@WareWolfWilly> tia.. hehehe.. rowdy has done things that have made my head spin! Literally!
[15:05] <5+unclesam> specific and not the whole paragraph? what about missed links
[15:05] <5+unclesam> un noticed?
[15:05] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> sure rowdy, shoot
[15:05] <5+elvira_tia> they aren't missed unclesam.. it's something the surfer is used to.. seeing important words linked in a paragraph
[15:06] <5+nola> I'd like to hear it too rowdy
[15:06] <5@Rowdy> unclesam.. different traffic works different ways... make a two gallery site and have the whole paragraph linked on one... and a few words on the other.. see which works best for you :)
[15:06] * @WareWolfWilly sees Rowdy typing........
[15:06] <5@WareWolfWilly> yep :)
[15:06] <5@WareWolfWilly> test your Traffic!$
[15:06] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> smoke coming off his keyboard willy?
[15:06] <5@WareWolfWilly> lol!
[15:06] <5@WareWolfWilly> no doubt Creepy_Crawdad~!
[15:06] <5@WareWolfWilly> hehehe
[15:06] <5+nola> the smoke is me trying to think
[15:06] <5+LilBiggz> i just wish i could get some kind of regular thing going with some tgps. so im not pissin in the wind
[15:07] <5@WareWolfWilly> Keep testing LilBiggz
[15:07] <5+elvira_tia> we do text that way on a paysite so the surfer can just scan down the page and understand exactly what's there
[15:07] <5+unclesam> hmmmm have to try it out
[15:07] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> it takes repitition lillbiggz, submit every day and they will eventually start listing you
[15:07] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> some of them want to see if your a daily builder or not
[15:07] <5@FreakyFrank> LilBiggz, I don't know if there is "regular" and "tgp's" lol
[15:07] <5+LilBiggz> im not trying to hurt no body uno....
[15:07] <5+LilBiggz> i will not quit
[15:08] <5@WareWolfWilly> that's the key LilBiggz ;)
[15:08] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> i've got tgp's that i've submitted to for over a month every day before they started listing me
[15:08] <5@WareWolfWilly> keep trying!
[15:08] <5@Rowdy> k.. tgp trick - when making the thumbs... it can be very helpful to have certain thumbs be smaller in file sixe than the others. This can apply to how fast which part of your page loads.. like small soft thumbs on the top two rows... then killer soponsor text link and larger thumbs on the following rows... these will load slower. It also can be used to adjust your b/w useage as well by making certain thumbs that you want viewed to load faster and so forth
[15:08] <5@FreakyFrank> you got it LilBiggz!
[15:08] <5@Rowdy> this makes a difference big time when you're surfing on a 28k modem...lol
[15:08] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> thanks rowdy...I've heard that before too
[15:08] <5@Rowdy> Excuse the typing errors... mIRC doesn't have spell check and I try never to look back....lol
[15:09] <5+LilBiggz> yea i just been there
[15:09] <5+nola> LB if you don't have the time to submit it might be better to stay away from TGP. I don;t do it as I can't be submitting every night. By making real sites you stay on LL's and have a chance at getting se traffic. Thats just my take on it though
[15:09] <5@WareWolfWilly> Also Rowdy.. if you have a banner on top.. make the Text link under it in a seperate <a > tag... so the text loadsbefor the banner
[15:09] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> i have tons of tgp pages that make it on se's nola
[15:09] <5@Rowdy> nola.. youcan get some nice se traffic from old tgp pages if done right as well :)
[15:09] <5@FreakyFrank> Another trick which you can't hardly use anymore is to give them a half pic then when they hit reload shoot them to a sponsor, lol
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[15:09] <5@Rowdy> correct willy
[15:09] <5+nola> really, maybe its just me then
[15:09] <5@FreakyFrank> DD!
[15:10] <5DangerDave> god damn crappy connection.:(
[15:10] <5@WareWolfWilly> TGPing you have to realize that FileSize Rules.. Keep the file sizes Way Down!
[15:10] <5@FreakyFrank> I have that to DD
[15:10] <5+nola> just another reason why I'm a newbie
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[15:10] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> every one of my tgp pages is targeted at one SE or another
[15:10] <5+LilBiggz> nola ty i was thinking of mirroring the gallerys and building front ends for them for ll
[15:10] <5@WareWolfWilly> wb Dave
[15:10] <5+nola> LB that should work
[15:10] <5+DangerDave> Farnk yeah.:(struggling on an old dial up.:( 
[15:10] <5+cheekymarie> wb Dave
[15:10] <5+DangerDave> Frank.:)
[15:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> Crawdad submitted a site to me at onlineadultsites.com tgp and I could not list it because it timed out
[15:11] <5@Rowdy> nola.. the SE traffic I get on my tgp pages are from the se's spidering my site.... I haven't tgp'd much in a long time but still have pages up from years ago that get hit every so often by the se's
[15:11] <5+cheekymarie> My dial up is ok today - yesterday it was crap
[15:11] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> hmmm, timed out?
[15:11] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> damn
[15:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> yep
[15:11] <5+LilBiggz> if i fail at one maybe i hit another
[15:11] <5+LilBiggz> its like gambling huh
[15:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> I said that too Creepy_Crawdad
[15:11] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> damn, damn, damn
[15:11] <5@WareWolfWilly> I waited too on it till later and it did it again
[15:12] <5+nola> anyhow, thanks for the chat. As usual I learned something but couldn't tell you what right now and I am definately dumber from the entire experience.
[15:12] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> damn, damn, damn
[15:12] <5+elvira_tia> naw.. it's all there nola
[15:12] <5+nola> gotta getback to work
[15:12] <5+LilBiggz> thanks for all the input guys and gals
[15:12] <5@WareWolfWilly> nola
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[15:12] <5+elvira_tia> see ya later nola, and LilBiggz
[15:12] <5+cheekymarie> by LilBiggz
[15:12] <5@WareWolfWilly> thanks for coming LilBiggz
[15:12] <5+LilBiggz> bye nola
[15:13] <5@FreakyFrank> damn, I can't keep up, lol
[15:13] <5@Rowdy> c'ya LilBiggz
[15:13] <5@WareWolfWilly> hope ya got something from the chat!
[15:13] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> i'm gonna split too...cya'll later
[15:13] <5+elvira_tia> it's time for me to make some creepy looking little kids
[15:13] <5@FreakyFrank> by LilBiggz
[15:13] <5+elvira_tia> thanks for the great chat guys
[15:13] <5@FreakyFrank> you be cool dude
[15:13] <5+cheekymarie> yep certainly did WillyB - sorry guys for my outburst
[15:13] <5@WareWolfWilly> c ya Creepy_Crawdad
[15:13] <5+elvira_tia> see ya on the boards :)
[15:13] <5+LilBiggz> well guys i gotta get ready for the tricks lol
[15:13] <5+Creepy_Crawdad> bye everybody
[15:13] <5@Rowdy> whew.. got talking about tips and shit and forgot what time it was.... the chat really ended 15 minutes ago...lol
[15:13] <5+elvira_tia> lol
[15:13] <5@FreakyFrank> you have nothing to be sorry for marie
[15:13] <5+LilBiggz> ,,\/ hippy 4 you all
[15:13] <5+elvira_tia> bye
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[15:14] <5@Rowdy> ok.. time for me to run as well.. have a good one all and enjoy your day :)
[15:14] <5@WareWolfWilly> see ya Rowdy
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[15:14] <5+cheekymarie> have a great day all - got to go and have this heart monitor removed today - so maybe I shouldn't have been here lol 
[15:14] <5@FreakyFrank> bi Rowdy, thanks!
[15:14] <5@WareWolfWilly> Thanks for coming Everyone!
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[15:14] <5+cheekymarie> stiches will disolve by themselves 
[15:14] <5+cheekymarie> bye
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