[14:00] *** WillyB changes topic to 'ANS Wednesday Newbie Chat - Topic -- Peoples Choice!~*\!/*~ Happy Holidays from Adult NetSurprise ~*\!/*~Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom! - Adult Webmasters Only!!!'
[14:00] <+Tev> I have battle scars now
[14:00] <+Rowdy> Frank... the wife and kids went out this morning shopping... said it was a horror story
[14:00] <+Frank> lol
[14:00] <+Snikks> lol
[14:00] <@WillyB> Hahahahaha ... and if you would have asked 'What's New Snikks?' .. he would have said 'Nothing'LOL
[14:00] <+lassiter> Rowdy: Glad they made it back alive ;0
[14:00] <+Rowdy> :)
[14:00] <+Frank> yep, always seems the after holiday crowd is something, everyone looking for the sales
[14:00] <+Snikks> hahahahahaha WillyB
[14:00] <@WillyB> hello Everyone :)
[14:00] <+Raven> he had to go, Lady R...he had to pick up his suit for vegas'
[14:01] <+LdyRavenia> I may brave it soon looking for a digi or vid cam
[14:01] <+LdyRavenia> looking smart, m'man
[14:01] <+Frank> suit? Tev gonna were a suit
[14:01] <@WillyB> a suit?
[14:01] <+Raven> wait until after new years..i was told, lady r..that they won't restock until january, after inventory
[14:01] <+lassiter> On that topic, any reccomendations for a video capture card under $500?
[14:01] <+LdyRavenia> I was kinda hoping on that
[14:01] <+Tev> depends on where I go
[14:02] <@WillyB> I don't have any lassiter
[14:02] <+Snikks> yeah LE is trying to put me into slacks for Vegas, but I'm kinda a jean guy
[14:02] <+lassiter> We wanna make MPEG-2 vid clips for sites
[14:02] <@WillyB> I have a little c-video cam myself which doesn't work very good at all
[14:02] <+Rowdy> jeans and black t-shirt... that about covers it
[14:02] <+Rowdy> lol
[14:02] <+Raven> snikks..for the first time, i bought a dress..a gown...
[14:02] <@WillyB> there ya go Rowdy!
[14:02] <+Snikks> lol yup rowdy
[14:02] <+Frank> that's what I have Rowdy
[14:02] * +LdyRavenia blows a kiss at lassiter, & gives away to the room that he's her main sqeeeze
[14:02] <+lassiter> Got an old ATI All-in_wonder that only encodes AVIs and they're *huge* files
[14:02] <+Raven> lassiter, there's a program that's pretty cheap...i can't remember the name of it..for what you want..you don't need to spend thousands.
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[14:02] <+Tev> Cool!
[14:03] <+Frank> I hope others aren't dressing up much for the players ball or I'll feel outta place,lol
[14:03] <+Rowdy> hi lezmaster
[14:03] <@WillyB> and then there are the new t-shirts you get at the convention it'self hehehe
[14:03] <+Tev> hey Lezmaser
[14:03] <+lassiter> Ops, I'm outta thecloset now Lady R ;)
[14:03] <+lezmaster> hey guys
[14:03] <+Frank> hi lezmaster
[14:03] <@WillyB> hiya lezmaster
[14:03] <+Raven> hiya, lezmaster
[14:03] <+Tev> most of the time I will where jeans, suit is for going out
[14:03] <@WillyB> you mean youare gonna leave the hotel Tev?
[14:04] <@WillyB> that's a thought LOL
[14:04] <+LdyRavenia> webmasters in suits-- I say everyone shows up in bathrobes-- usually work clothes
[14:04] <+Snikks> lol
[14:04] <+lassiter> Raven: I guess if I could find software that would turn huge AVI files into smaller neater Quicktime or Medai Player files, that would be good
[14:04] <@WillyB> hehehe LdyRavenia
[14:04] <+Snikks> boxers is the uniform for the day around here
[14:04] <+Snikks> 8))
[14:04] <+LdyRavenia> :D
[14:04] <+Raven> i have no brain, lassiter..but i would not recommend a program like the one we have.....
[14:04] <+Raven> it was very costly...
[14:04] <+Frank> there ya go LdyRanenia, sounds good
[14:04] <+Snikks> has his super man boxers on today
[14:04] <@WillyB> I hear ya Snikks!
[14:04] <+lassiter> Raven : LOL yer scarin' me now
[14:04] <+Snikks> lol
[14:05] <@HippyDude>MEGA PACK sale! Every 15,000 pick Maga Pack is on sale for $149.00. This is a LIMITED sale so don't wait http://www.pixmasters.com/mega.html!
[14:05] <+Raven> LOL..lassiter....for real...we bought this hugely expensive video capture card....and we didn't need anything that cost that much...
[14:05] <@WillyB> doesn't that media encoder 7 do that Raven?
[14:05] <+Raven> DAZZLE..that's it..look into that
[14:05] <@WillyB> I just downloaded it the other day but have not taken it out for a test spin yet
[14:05] <+lassiter> Raven: Yep, people recommeneded Matrox cards, but they *start* at over $500...too rich for my newbie blood
[14:05] <+LdyRavenia> Dazzle... looking it up nowThanks
[14:06] <+Raven> matrox cards are wonderful......but the good one is well over 1100 dollars..for what you want..it's overkill, lassiter
[14:06] <+Raven> willyb..i only buy the hardware, i don't use it...ROFL
[14:06] <@WillyB> ah.. ok
[14:06] <@WillyB> yeah.. I see it's hardware now
[14:06] <+Raven> i research it...
[14:06] <+Raven> LOL
[14:07] <@WillyB> though windows media encoder could bring size down too
[14:07] <+Snikks> Be on the look out for yet another Link List, Morning Bear is building out Free Porn Index.....coming your way soon!
[14:07] <@WillyB> see how much I know about that? lol
[14:07] <+lassiter> Raven: Yep..just wanna make some 320X200 or so 2-3 minute video clips
[14:07] <+Raven> try Dazzle...i believe that's the name of it...
[14:07] <@WillyB> good deal Sniks :)
[14:07] <+Raven> willyb....i'm not familiar with windows media encoder...so i can't say.
[14:07] <+Snikks> 8)))
[14:08] <+Rowdy> ok... anyone have something business related to cover today during the chat or are we just shooting the shit? :)
[14:08] <+lassiter> WiilyB: Isn't Media Encoder expensive too?
[14:08] <@WillyB> what sort of traffic will she be feeding it to start it out?
[14:08] <+Raven> i'm talking business, rowdy...
[14:08] <+Frank> lol
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[14:08] <+Raven> video capture cards are business...
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[14:08] <+Rowdy> I know... hahahaha
[14:08] <+Raven> hiya, LB
[14:08] * +MrM is gunna go pass out....see ya everyone
[14:08] <+Tev> Hey LilBiggz
[14:08] <+Frank> hi LilBiggz
[14:08] <+LdyRavenia> by MrM
[14:08] <+Tev> Bye MrM
[14:08] <+Raven> feel better, mr. m...:-))
[14:08] <+LilBiggz> hello everyone
[14:08] <+Rowdy> just seeing if you're paying attention to me or not...hahaha
[14:08] <+MrM> thanks...i gotta go die again.
[14:08] <+Raven> hey, frank.....didn't see you sneak in..:-)))))
[14:08] <+Frank> lol
[14:08] <@WillyB> well .. I downloaded it for nothing .. not sure what it will do because I have not had a chance to even open it up yet lassiter
[14:08] <+Rowdy> c'ya MrM
[14:08] <+Rowdy> Hiya LB
[14:08] <+Frank> by Mrm
[14:09] <@WillyB> see ya MrM
[14:09] <+Snikks> sorry your feelin down MrM
[14:09] <+Raven> always, Rowdy..it's part of my contract with ANS..to always listen to you.
[14:09] <+LilBiggz> heya rowdy
[14:09] <+Snikks> get better
[14:09] <@WillyB> hope ya feel better soon!
[14:09] <+LilBiggz> WILLYB
[14:09] <@WillyB> lol Raven!
[14:09] <@WillyB> helo LilBiggz@!
[14:09] <+Snikks> hands MrM a shot of Crown
[14:09] <+Raven> :-))))) just teasing you, rowdy...:-))))
[14:09] <+Rowdy> lol... paying people to listen to me... hmmm... and I thought there was no way I could achieve it ... lol
[14:09] <+Raven> pay?
[14:09] <+Tev> LOL Rowdy
[14:09] <@WillyB> hahaha Rowdy!
[14:09] <+Rowdy> j/k
[14:10] <+LilBiggz> lol
[14:10] <+Raven> wait a sec..no one mentioned pay....LOL
[14:10] <+LdyRavenia> hey folks-- BTW-- does Netsurprise have a chat for member site masters, too?
[14:10] * +lassiter thinks I should let WillyB see what it does before running it on his own sorry pute ;)
[14:10] <+Tev> There is a paysite zone, but not a scheduled chat that I know of
[14:10] <+Rowdy> LdyRavenia .. there is a specific zone set up for it but I 'm not aware of a specific chat
[14:10] <+Raven> I wanted to address your pay site....you should have upsells on it, you know.....
[14:11] <@WillyB> I will let ya know lassiter
[14:11] <+LdyRavenia> lassiter-- watch from a safe place lol
[14:11] <@WillyB> lol
[14:11] <+Raven> lol
[14:11] <@WillyB> definately!
[14:11] <+Raven> willyb....let me know, too....if that encoder thingy does mpegs...ok?
[14:11] <+LdyRavenia> well I was thinking of loading the fedder sites w/ upsells
[14:11] <+LdyRavenia> er feeder
[14:11] <+Snikks> is anyone here trying to play in non-adult traffic with an adult upsell?
[14:11] <+LdyRavenia> some of the galleries have upsells
[14:11] <@WillyB> ok, I sure will Raven
[14:11] <+Frank> never tried it Snikks
[14:12] <@WillyB> non=adult has traffic???
[14:12] <@WillyB> lol
[14:12] <+Snikks> is trying it
[14:12] <@WillyB> j/k ;)
[14:12] <+Frank> but I don't have non-adult traffic,lol
[14:12] <+Tev> No, my non-adult is strictly non-adult, I try not to mix the two
[14:12] <+Raven> lol, willyb
[14:12] <+Rowdy> not really Snikks
[14:12] <+LdyRavenia> but I wanted to keep the member site kinda focused & not too many banners or pop ups as a selling point
[14:12] <+lassiter> Snikks: I have a couple of banners here and there on my personal web page
[14:12] <+LilBiggz> lol@willyb
[14:12] <+Raven> lady R...you can also have upsells on your pay site....
[14:12] <+Raven> and should
[14:13] <+Tev> Doesn't necessarily have to be banners or pop-ups, you can upsell feeds, pharmecuticals and such
[14:13] <+lassiter> Raven: She does, just not on the intro pages.
[14:13] <+Raven> you don't need to put popups, lady R.....it can be very profitable to offer upsells inside...
[14:13] <+Frank> LdyRavenia, I guess I came in late, what is your paysite?
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[14:13] <+Snikks> beer babes and sports is my focus
[14:13] <+LilBiggz> heya Frank ! How the hell are ya?
[14:13] <+Snikks> three key ingredients for men
[14:13] <+Frank> that works for me Snikks, good combo
[14:13] <+LdyRavenia> I got definite feedback from the members about what they wanted before I set up & not too many banners or consoles scored pretty high (I do have a few for things I am an affiliate of)
[14:14] <+Frank> Hi LilBiggz, just trying to get back into the swing
[14:14] <+LdyRavenia> nodsbanners would be ok
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[14:14] <@WillyB> hello GonZo
[14:14] <+Tev> Hey GonZo
[14:14] <+Frank> Hi Gonzo
[14:14] <+Raven> hiya, gonzo...:-))
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[14:14] <+LilBiggz> heya gonzo
[14:14] <+lassiter> On that topic, does anyone really find that anyone clicks on non-sex links on an adult site?
[14:14] <+LdyRavenia> hi gonzo
[14:14] <+GonZo> howdy
[14:14] <+Raven> penis growers...do very well....as do pharmaceuticals....
[14:15] <+Raven> and bio-fen , i understand , is doing very well
[14:15] <+LdyRavenia> Frank-- the gate to my members tour & site is at http://www.ladyravenia.com
[14:15] <+Tev> On your paysite Lassiter?I have links for gambling in there that make some money
[14:15] <+Frank> I still do well with the Internet Eraser
[14:15] <+GonZo> Im going to try the descrambler one
[14:15] <@WillyB> well.. they seem to click on the exit link quite a bit lassiter
[14:15] <+Snikks> we do well with toys, I woulda neve guessed the sales we get
[14:15] <+Rowdy> hi Gonzo
[14:15] <+Snikks> r
[14:15] <+Raven> we started out doing well with internet eraser.....frank....but....not now
[14:15] <+Frank> I tried some casino stuff before but never done anything
[14:15] <+lassiter> I get very few clicks for Eraser software, descramblers, and other non-sex stuff.Decent clickthrus for adult links, though
[14:16] <+GonZo> Internet eraser...I hope they keep selling that one. I just recovered a nice bunch of info off a box witht hat one it.
[14:16] <@WillyB> I stick to the clicks and try different things on the side as well
[14:16] <+Tev> It doesn't do great but it does make some money
[14:16] <+lassiter> I basically like to keep my warning page free of adult-site banners
[14:16] <+Raven> never did well with toys, snikks....don't know why either..you'd think people would love it
[14:16] <+Frank> I have most my exits going to the eraser stuff, still always do under 1:100
[14:16] <+LdyRavenia> ok here's a question sure to not brighten my day-- site is about 3 months old now-- any idea for a niche member site like mine what good traffic is?
[14:16] <@WillyB> and if the side thing works.. then I add it to my stuff
[14:16] <+Raven> we did that, frank.....maybe we're not doing it right...but two sales a month does not keep a sponsor
[14:17] <+lassiter> Raven: Yeah, we've had a turnkley toy site for several months and very little return on it
[14:17] <+lassiter> er turnkey
[14:17] <+Tev> That is a tough question, what are your traffic sources?
[14:17] <+Raven> lassiter....i agree...but there are those who do extremely well off toys.
[14:17] <+Snikks> I built my toy site to look like the main site and it seems to work well
[14:17] <+LdyRavenia> searcah engines & toplists
[14:17] <+Snikks> main site = upsell
[14:17] <+Raven> ladyR...i didn't understand your question
[14:17] <+LdyRavenia> oh & some forums I am on & ProDomme directories
[14:17] <@WillyB> yep.. it all depends on a lot of different things if you do well off of this thing or that thing
[14:18] <+Rowdy> I have plans to set up a few other sites that have alternative things on it... never had much luck with most of it before but what the hell... I'll see how the traffic has changed over the last few years
[14:18] <+Frank> LdyR, that can depend on alot of things. Where you may be listed, how many SE hits you get etc...
[14:18] <+LdyRavenia> I am getting between 300-400 unique hits a day
[14:18] <+Snikks> lots of informative text works well to
[14:18] <+Snikks> target 50+
[14:18] <+Raven> rowdy....we still try..on our pay sites....with alternative stuff....
[14:18] <+Snikks> the got plastic
[14:18] <+Snikks> they
[14:18] <@WillyB> true Snikks
[14:18] <+Tev> after 3 mos, you probably aren't getting huge amounts, I was going to guess 300-400
[14:18] <+Raven> text is good, snikks....LOL
[14:18] <+Frank> that's a good start, I would think you could manage to build up to a few thousand maybe
[14:19] <+Snikks> plus get real medical info
[14:19] <+LdyRavenia> the free site is text heavy-- lots to spider
[14:19] <+LdyRavenia> lol
[14:19] <+Frank> It takes a long time to build traffic
[14:19] <+Rowdy> ya.. my mainstream income has died although it never was very good... stillg et traffic but not much action. 
[14:19] <+Raven> i second that, frank...:-)
[14:19] <+LdyRavenia> nods at Frank & Raven
[14:19] <+Kre8t0r> not long to loose it tho :{
[14:19] <+Tev> Franks right especially in this day and age
[14:19] <+LdyRavenia> thanks for that bit of light at the end of the tunnel
[14:19] <+LdyRavenia> lol
[14:19] <+Raven> well, hi, Kre8t0r...:-))
[14:19] <+Kre8t0r> hi raven
[14:19] <+Raven> you're doing okay, Lady R......it's only three months old
[14:19] <+Frank> what is your site LdyR?
[14:20] <+Raven> http://www.ladyravenia.com/
[14:20] <+Frank> year 3 months isn't much to judge on
[14:20] <+LdyRavenia> thanks Raven
[14:20] <+Snikks> my nick showed up as a search term for the first time yesterday
[14:20] <+Snikks> 8))
[14:20] <+GonZo> Mainstream income has always been a struggle
[14:20] <+Raven> LOL....
[14:20] <+Tev> The important thing is how well those 3-400 are converting.
[14:20] <+LdyRavenia> I think they are converting ok
[14:20] <+Raven> well...the penis people say they are doing great....as do the pharmaceuticals.
[14:20] <+Frank> yep
[14:20] <+lassiter> Im just getting started with free sites and soon some AVS, but hoping to have pays sites w/original content within a year.did I pick the wrong time to start? B-< 
[14:21] <+Raven> there is no wrong time to start, lassiter...
[14:21] <+LilBiggz> lol@raven
[14:21] <+LdyRavenia> & I tend to keep em once they join
[14:21] <+LilBiggz> the penis people
[14:21] <+Tev> Good!then you know you are on the right track.
[14:21] <+Raven> that's the important part, lady r....
[14:21] <+Raven> keeping them
[14:21] <+Raven> :-)...LB
[14:21] <+LilBiggz> lmaorof
[14:21] <+LdyRavenia> when I get the videos up-- I am sure that will help sell the site
[14:21] <+Tev> Lassiter, it's never the wrong time to start.
[14:21] <+Tev> Oh yeah
[14:21] <+Raven> videos sell, lady r...especially in the niche you're in
[14:21] <+Frank> yep, it's a building process, if you get them, then keep them, it all starts adding up.
[14:22] * +LdyRavenia is just the chick doing evil things in front of the cam-- lassiter is the teckie
[14:22] <+lassiter> LOL
[14:22] <+Frank> lol
[14:22] <+GonZo> like the vids!
[14:22] <+Raven> so you two are connected....i missed that part....i get it now..always on the ball..that's raven...LOL
[14:22] <+lassiter> Lady R is becoming much more coding-savvy now that I have my own sites to deal with ;)
[14:23] <+Snikks> does anyone link back to Google on their sites?
[14:23] <+LdyRavenia> LOL
[14:23] <@WillyB> lol Raven!
[14:23] <+Snikks> I use
[14:23] <@WillyB> That's a good excuse Snikks!
[14:23] <+Tev> not me, they get enough traffic, unless it will help me get a better listing
[14:23] <+Snikks> Search Google for Snikks for more sites
[14:23] <+Frank> Snikks, I sometime have SE links on my entrance but not where they can click
[14:23] <+LdyRavenia>anyone trying google's ad word dealie?
[14:24] <+Rowdy> not I ... my exit links point to my mainstream sites for the most part
[14:24] <+Raven> yeah, once, lady r....
[14:24] <+Snikks> I still am testing the waters, but I think it's working out well thus far
[14:24] <+LdyRavenia> didn't turn over Raven?
[14:24] <+Tev> Does that help get a higher listing Frank?
[14:24] <+Raven> it cost us ..lady r..
[14:24] <+lassiter> Sniks: Ya could just link to a GOoogle page that you've already entered search terms for
[14:24] <+LdyRavenia> yup-- I am going to try it soon-- but very targeted keywords
[14:24] <+Raven> see, rowdy..we're doing business....LOL
[14:25] <+Rowdy> lol yep :)
[14:25] <+Raven> what does that mean, frank...se links on the entrance but not where they can click
[14:25] <+Frank> well I tell ya, not sure really, but I do have sites with those links that seem to do better. dunno if that's what caused it though to be truthful,lol
[14:26] <+Tev> Ok
[14:26] * +Raven is very slow, frank.....you must use elementary language with her
[14:26] <+Frank> Raven, that would mean having SE links way under the enter somewhere
[14:26] <+Snikks> you shouls use your nick to help get spidered
[14:26] <+Raven> oh, okay...i got that
[14:26] <+Snikks> has ove 150 listings on Snikks alone
[14:27] <+Snikks> over
[14:27] <+Frank> cool
[14:27] <+Snikks> Hentibee has like over 400
[14:27] <+Snikks> they spider him everywhere
[14:28] <+Raven> i used to run a site that had a nick of LadyLayne...it's in yahoo
[14:28] <+lassiter> Any ideas on how or whether to use roborts.txtfiles?
[14:28] <+lassiter> er robots.txt?
[14:29] <+Frank> personally I never used them lassiter, but I know they are used to control what is and isn't to be spidered. 
[14:29] <@WillyB> use robots.txt and put in pages you DON'T want spiderd
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[14:29] <+Tev> Hey RawAlex
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[14:29] <+Snikks> RawAlex!!!!!!!!
[14:29] <+Frank> Hi RawAlex
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[14:29] <+Raven> hiya, rawalex
[14:29] <+Rowdy> hi RawAlex
[14:29] <@WillyB> hello RawAlex
[14:29] <+Snikks> hey RawAlex
[14:29] <+Snikks> 8))
[14:29] <+RawAlex> Moo!
[14:30] <+Snikks> how are ya man?
[14:30] <+LdyRavenia> hi RawAlex
[14:30] <+lassiter> WillyB: Yeah, i get that part..just owndered if it helps or hurts when trying to get spidered by SEs
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[14:30] <+RawAlex> Doing fine... figured I would drop in and wish everyone the best for the season.
[14:30] <@WillyB> it doesn't really do either I don't think lassiter
[14:30] <+Snikks> and the same to you my friend!
[14:30] <+Raven> lassiter, we used to use it for our join pages...now, with SE's the way they are....i don't care what they spider as long as we get spidered
[14:30] <+Tev> Happy Holidays RawAlex
[14:30] <@WillyB> thanks Alex :)Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you also :-))
[14:31] <+RawAlex> :-)
[14:31] <+Raven> merry christmas, Alex....hope it was a good one for ya
[14:31] <+Frank> You to RawAlex, hope you are having a happy hoilday as well.
[14:31] <+RawAlex> I also want to thank everyone who has been submitting to findpics, it is enjoyable to review good sites :-)
[14:31] <+Rowdy> good to see ya RawAlex
[14:32] <+RawAlex> :-)
[14:32] <+RawAlex> Don
[14:32] <+lassiter> Raven: Yeah, I hear that ;)
[14:32] <+RawAlex> t Don't want to interrupt... thanks everyone!
[14:32] <+lassiter> Tnx WillyB
[14:32] <+Rowdy> RawAlex, you aren't interupting ... everyone is always welcome here :)
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[14:32] <+Rowdy> wb Raven
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[14:32] <+RawAlex> Thanks Rowdy!
[14:32] <@WillyB> wb Ravem
[14:32] <+Raven> thanks....:-)
[14:33] <@WillyB> I would have never thought someone thought they weren't welcome.. I hope no one thinks that!
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[14:34] <@WillyB> see you posting on the links board all the time Alex :)
[14:34] <+LdyRavenia> WillyB & Raven & the othert old timer newbies mak ethis a very friendly resource, I think
[14:34] <+RawAlex> I always feel welcome, don't want to interrupt the good things going on here... :_)
[14:34] <@WillyB> I always have used the robot.txt file to look for in my 404's hehehe
[14:34] <@WillyB> that way I know I did get spidered by an SE that looks for it
[14:34] <+Raven> old timer newbies....LadyR....i feel as if I should be chewin' tobacco....and hittin' the youngins' with my cane...LOL
[14:35] <+RawAlex> I think this sort of thing is really very kewl, makes my life easier too.
[14:35] <+LilBiggz> hey dude they have'nt even kicked me out yet... lmao
[14:35] <@HippyDude>MEGA PACK sale! Every 15,000 pick Maga Pack is on sale for $149.00. This is a LIMITED sale so don't wait http://www.pixmasters.com/mega.html!
[14:35] <@WillyB> rofl@ Raven!
[14:35] <+Rowdy> The contributed links page in the Newbie Zone will be updated within a week or so as well asll .. just FYI :)
[14:35] <+Frank> lol
[14:35] <+GonZo> gimme a plug raven!
[14:35] <+Rowdy> How goes it LilBiggz?
[14:35] <+Raven> lol, gonzo.....
[14:35] <@WillyB> you have a good connection today LilBiggz :)) cool :)
[14:36] <+Raven> any recommendations for a billing company besides the usual
[14:36] <+LilBiggz> its going great over here just got my site moved got a little bw to burn, and hopefully it's gonna be a good year... :- )
[14:36] <+Raven> i have a client looking for one for his penis site
[14:36] <+lassiter> OK, new question: Anyone know where I could find a good model release form that would be 2257-compliant?
[14:37] <+Frank> sounds good LilBiggz
[14:37] <@WillyB> is there a way he can do it himself? .. with a merchant account?
[14:37] <+Tev> You might try xxxlaw.com
[14:37] <+lassiter> Tnx Tev!
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[14:37] <+Raven> well, willyb....i don't think he wants that....otherwise i would recommend net billing or one of them to him...
[14:37] <@WillyB> I don't know but the main ones myself Raven
[14:37] <+Raven> hiya, shorty...
[14:37] <@WillyB> hiya Shorty 
[14:37] <+Rowdy> Hi Shorty
[14:37] <+Frank> hi Shorty
[14:37] <+Tev> Don't know if they have one or not, but there could be links to them
[14:37] <+LilBiggz> hi shorty
[14:37] <+Raven> i don't either...willyb...but did anyone hear any rumours about a billing company that's going down????
[14:38] <+Tev> Hey Shorty
[14:38] <+Shorty> Hi!
[14:38] <+lassiter> Tev: Sez "no web site is configured at this address"
[14:38] <+Tev> hmmm one sec
[14:38] <+lassiter> Ah..its xxxlaw.NET!;)
[14:38] <+Tev> Ah, ok
[14:39] <@WillyB> that's right.. it is now that I think about it lass
[14:39] <@WillyB> iet
[14:39] <@WillyB> r
[14:39] <@WillyB> I tried LOL!
[14:39] <+Tev> LOL WillyB
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[14:39] <+LilBiggz> do wat willyb?
[14:39] <@WillyB> lassiter LilBiggz.. I had a bit of a problem with the typing end of it hehehe
[14:40] <+LilBiggz> oh ok
[14:40] <@WillyB> Frank .. how goes theplans fora new Newbie Project?
[14:41] <+Frank> Rowdy has a great one coming up
[14:41] <+LilBiggz> ya frank whats going on bratha?
[14:41] <+Rowdy> lol
[14:41] <+Tev> Has anyone ever used Web Position Gold to help get their sites better listings and does it worK?
[14:41] <@WillyB> care to elaberate any Rowdy?? hehehe
[14:42] <@WillyB> I have heard of it Tev but never tried
[14:42] <+GonZo> Lassiter...email me and Ill send you the sample one we use
[14:42] <+lassiter> Tev: Is this software?
[14:42] <+Frank> Tev, I have heard of some that did well with that. But I always figured that there still can only be so many to try to get the same search terms, etc... so I'm not sure how good it really is.
[14:42] <+Rowdy> The new project (after Vegas) will be based on how to use one site to create multiple sites and tgp pages quickly
[14:42] <+LilBiggz> i used the web traffic maximizer before and it worked ok, but i think the hand submit is the best way. Never used WPG
[14:43] <+Frank> It's a pricy deal for sure.
[14:43] <+LilBiggz> WWWOOOOOHHHHHOOO
[14:43] <+Tev> Yes it is Lassiter, I looked at a trial version, but didn't like it, but read on a board that it was good software.
[14:44] <+GonZo> Ive always used hitguru.com Tev....but ya know how that works
[14:44] <+Raven> when i was submitting...i always did it by hand.
[14:44] <+LdyRavenia> If I found a good alternative to hand submit I'd be there
[14:44] <+LdyRavenia> ...
[14:44] <@WillyB> that sounds like a great project Rowdy.. what's the assignment???Have to build 100 sites in 2 weeks???
[14:44] <+Raven> i still think that's the best way
[14:44] <@WillyB> hehehehee
[14:44] <+Tev> I wouldn't use it to submit, it supposedly makes doorway pages that are SE specific
[14:44] <+Rowdy> lol .. not quite Willy :)
[14:44] <+LilBiggz> np
[14:44] <@WillyB> hehehehe
[14:44] <+LdyRavenia> ah Tev I c
[14:44] <@WillyB> ok.. :)
[14:45] <+Tev> I always hand submit
[14:45] <+LdyRavenia> I am hoping that being on so many Top sites will weigh in the search engines-- links to & from my site
[14:45] <+Raven> for your kind of site, Lady R..you are doing it just right.
[14:45] <+Raven> i think
[14:45] <+Raven> :-)
[14:45] <+LdyRavenia> :_)
[14:45] <@WillyB> I think so too Raven
[14:46] <+Frank> It can help LdyR, all links help
[14:46] <+lassiter> Helps to have several accounts one can hit the top lists from to boost the rating ;)
[14:46] <+Tev> <-- not a traffic expert by any means, lol
[14:46] * +Raven is definitely not a traffic expert
[14:46] * +Raven justs rites reel gud
[14:46] <+LdyRavenia> yes -- I have a nice circle-- my AVS site links to my tour site links to my free site links to my members site--- whew
[14:46] <+lassiter> LOL Raven...yer a gud spelur to
[14:47] <+Raven> lol, lassiter....yep
[14:47] <@WillyB> rofl!
[14:47] <+LdyRavenia> riting guud is a useful thingie
[14:47] <+Frank> lol
[14:47] <+Raven> i hve fond it to beeeee so, lady R....:-)
[14:47] <+lassiter> Whattya mean Im illiterate?My parents wuz MARRIED!
[14:47] <+LilBiggz> LR you really don't want 50,000 hits from picture bandits do ya?
[14:47] <+lassiter> ;)
[14:48] * +LdyRavenia bonks lassiter on the head...again
[14:48] <+LdyRavenia> trageted traffic
[14:48] <+lassiter> See, thats how I got this way ;)
[14:48] * +Raven just got that....lassiter
[14:48] <+LdyRavenia> er I rite guud too
[14:48] * +Raven is real slow today
[14:48] <+LdyRavenia> targeted traffic LOL
[14:48] <+LilBiggz> lol
[14:49] <+LdyRavenia> I was surprised at how much traffic I got on Xmas day-- you all too?
[14:49] <+Tev> Nope, Xmas day gets good traffic
[14:49] <+LdyRavenia> I figured people might, y'know, have more of a lifelol
[14:49] <+lassiter> Mine was 1/4 of usual on Xmas day.Normal today though
[14:49] <+Rowdy> lol
[14:50] <+Snikks> Well happy trails, all you pilgrims, i'm off to do something...good, bad or it just don't matter 
[14:50] <+LdyRavenia> but then I was working links on Xmas-- so there you are
[14:50] <+lassiter> Bye Snikks!
[14:50] <+Frank> k Snikks, c ya later
[14:50] <+Tev> Bye Snikks
[14:50] <+Raven> see ya, snikks....
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[14:50] <+Rowdy> later Snikks... enjoy!
[14:50] <+LdyRavenia> bye Snikks
[14:50] <+GonZo> Links is guud
[14:51] <+Rowdy> damn... take it easy one day and I swear I'm gonna be paying for it for the next week.... to much work! LOl
[14:51] <+LdyRavenia> yait's a good thing tinkering w/ the site & linking is addictive
[14:51] <+Frank> lol, yea, I'm trying to get back into the swing myself
[14:51] <+Raven> and no brain cells...rowdy
[14:52] <@WillyB> ditto
[14:52] <@WillyB> lol
[14:52] <@WillyB> it is still snowing here too
[14:52] <+Raven> i don't even want to hear that, willyb.....
[14:52] <+LdyRavenia> snow... isn't that outside? I remember outside lol
[14:52] <+Frank> me either, I don't like cold or snow,lol
[14:52] <@WillyB> lol LdyRavenia!!!
[14:52] <+lassiter> I try & make sure I've got 3 hours free when I start site tinkering, 'cause next time I look up its dark outside ;)
[14:52] <+LdyRavenia> the big room
[14:52] <+Rowdy> Willy... I had forgotten to put the heater in the pond... got to break 4 inch think ice this morning to do it... fun fun huh? though about giving you a call...lol
[14:53] <@WillyB> that happens to me too
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[14:53] <+Raven> what's outside, Lady R..
[14:53] <+LdyRavenia> heehee
[14:53] * +Raven hugs her favourite stalker
[14:53] <+Rowdy> hi MrMarylou
[14:53] <+MrMarylou> Hello all
[14:53] <@WillyB> lol Rowdy
[14:53] * +Raven wants snow
[14:53] <+Frank> mi MrMaryLou
[14:53] <@WillyB> hiya MrMarylou :-)
[14:53] <+LdyRavenia> hiya MrMarylou
[14:53] <+Tev> Hey MrMarylou
[14:53] <+Raven> hi, my favourite stalker.....my toes are red
[14:53] <+lassiter> Raven: Its the big room with the big ball of fire in it
[14:53] <@WillyB> what does mi mean Frank? hehehehehe
[14:53] <+MrMarylou> Yummy
[14:53] <@WillyB> j/k Frank!
[14:53] <+Frank> lol
[14:54] <+LilBiggz> Heya MrMarylou
[14:54] <+Rowdy> brb
[14:54] <+Frank> means I can't type WillyB
[14:54] <@WillyB> ah. ok :)
[14:54] <+lassiter> Best not to go ther though...unsafe ;)
[14:54] <+Raven> lol, lassiter.....raven doesn't get out much
[14:54] <@WillyB> same problem on my end Frank!
[14:54] <@WillyB> hehehehehe
[14:54] <+lassiter> Stay inside, where computer is.Safe.Warm.Happy. ;)
[14:54] <@WillyB> I agree lassiter
[14:54] <+Raven> yes. must stay safe.
[14:54] <+Frank> still trying to recover from the past few days,lol, drank way to much
[14:55] <+LilBiggz> lol, hey my lips are on google check out search term lilbiggz... lmmfao
[14:55] * +LdyRavenia looks a little concerned over lassiter & Raven
[14:55] <+MrMarylou> Raven I miss your toes soooo much
[14:55] <@WillyB> hahaha LilBiggz!
[14:55] * +Raven thinks lady ravenia should be concerned.
[14:55] <+LilBiggz> lololol
[14:55] <+Frank> there ya go lassiter, I don't venture to far, only to by smokes and food,lol
[14:55] <+Raven> soon, Mr. Mary Lou...soon
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[14:55] <@WillyB> hiya Crawdad
[14:55] <+MrMarylou> 11 days
[14:55] <+Tev> Hey Crawdad
[14:55] <+Raven> hiya, Crawdad..merry christmas..
[14:55] <+Frank> Hi Crawdad
[14:55] <+LilBiggz> hi crawdad
[14:55] <+Rowdy> back
[14:55] <+Raven> yep, my sweet stalker.....
[14:55] <+Crawdad> Hi everybody, sorry I'm late
[14:55] <+Rowdy> Hi Crawdad
[14:55] <@WillyB> Happy Holidays!!!
[14:56] <+Raven> can't wait to give you a huge hug
[14:56] <+Crawdad> I can't wait either Raven
[14:56] <+Raven> you're in time, Crawdad, there's another minute left
[14:56] <+Rowdy> late... ya still have a whole 5 minutes to enjoy...lol
[14:56] <+MrMarylou> Viva Toe Vegas
[14:56] <+Raven> lol
[14:56] <+Kre8t0r> 10 days :p
[14:56] <+Raven> LOL, mr. marylou.....
[14:56] <+Kre8t0r> and counting
[14:56] <+Raven> you bet we're counting...
[14:56] <+Crawdad> I had to go to walmart and pillage the after xmas sale
[14:56] <@WillyB> I hear ya MrMarylou .. I am looking forward to it :)
[14:56] <+MrMarylou> the 6th for me :(
[14:56] <@WillyB> hahaha Crawdad.. don't blame ya
[14:57] <@WillyB> 5th here ... at 3:30 pm
[14:57] <+Raven> not until the 6th..my toes have to wait that long???? ;-(
[14:57] <+Crawdad> candy canes were only 40 cents a box
[14:57] <+Tev> Crawdad is as crazy as me, going out to any store today!
[14:57] <+Raven> 5th....8:00 am
[14:57] <@WillyB> that is Early Raven!
[14:57] <+MrMarylou> yeah but three nights of toe sucking :)
[14:57] <+Raven> tell me about it, willyb.....what WERE we thinking...
[14:57] <+LilBiggz> lol
[14:57] <@WillyB> hehehe MrMarylou ;)
[14:57] <+Crawdad> I'm leaving out the morning of the fifth too
[14:57] <+GonZo> damn mainstream work. I gotta go..enjoyed chatting with you all
[14:57] <+Raven> ah, yes, Mr. Marylou....three days of sucking...LOL
[14:57] <+Tev> Hey now, I AM in the room MrMarylou, lol
[14:57] <+LdyRavenia> 3 nights-- have toes like raisins
[14:57] <+MrMarylou> noon on the 6th till the 9th
[14:57] <+Frank> see ya Gonzo
[14:57] <+Raven> take it easy, gonzo
[14:57] <+Tev> Bye GonZo
[14:57] <@WillyB> take care GonZo .. see ya :)
[14:58] <+Raven> yes, lady r...but it makes him smile...:-)))
[14:58] <+lassiter> bye gonzo
[14:58] <+GonZo> buzzzzzzzzz
[14:58] <+LdyRavenia> take care Gonzo
[14:58] <+MrMarylou> LOL tev its only the toes
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[14:58] <+Tev> LOL
[14:58] <+MrMarylou> I wont go above the ankles
[14:58] <@WillyB> rofl!!!
[14:58] <+LdyRavenia> promises promises
[14:58] <+Raven> i'm getting a pedicure, just for you......mr. mary lou
[14:58] <@WillyB> you should be brave and bold MrMarylou
[14:58] <@WillyB> lol
[14:58] <+Crawdad> I plan on being settled into my room by 5 pm on the 5th, having a nice cocktail
[14:58] <+Raven> don't encourage him, willyb.....LOL
[14:58] <@WillyB> hahahahaha!
[14:58] <+Raven> crawdad, we're leaving for the airport the night before...
[14:58] <+Frank> I won't be in till late on the 5th
[14:59] <+Crawdad> i'm driving, only six hours from my house
[14:59] <@WillyB> lucky your Crawdad :))
[14:59] <+Frank> that's nice CD
[14:59] <+Kre8t0r> well : Þ
[14:59] <+MrMarylou> I got a package deal for Harrahs :) 
[14:59] <+Crawdad> lol
[14:59] <+Raven> that's wonderful, CD
[15:00] <+lassiter> Maybe we'll be there next year ;)
[15:00] <+Kre8t0r> the Miami show was only 15 mins from me
[15:00] <+Kre8t0r> hehe
[15:00] <@WillyB> Snikks only lives 90 miles
[15:00] <@WillyB> they drive too
[15:00] <+Crawdad> I like florida
[15:00] * +Raven does not like florida...where there are bugs bigger than she is
[15:00] <@WillyB> hehehe
[15:00] <+Crawdad> lol Raven
[15:00] <+Kre8t0r> lol
[15:01] <+MrMarylou> Man I was so depressed yesterday I didnt get to reject a single site LOL
[15:01] <@WillyB> and those little love bugs
[15:01] <+Frank> lol
[15:01] <@WillyB> they only live a week.. but there are a LOT of them
[15:01] <+Crawdad> I like the fact that it rains most every day in the summer, like a full time wet tshirt contest
[15:01] <+LdyRavenia> flying cockroaches-- what was FL thinking?
[15:01] <@WillyB> hehehe Crawdad
[15:01] <+Tev> LOL Crawdad
[15:01] <+MrMarylou> But I made up for it today 
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