Session Start: Wed Aug 22 00:00:00 2001 Session Time: Wed Aug 22 00:00:00 2001 [14:01] Hi steve [14:01] <@WillyB> hi juststeve [14:01] monring Rowdy [14:01] *** WillyB changes topic to 'Newbie Chat!!!~ Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom! - WebCreators Only' [14:01] morning Willy [14:01] glad you could make it :) [14:02] wasn't sure if we were welcome - we seem to have stirred up a bit of a hornets nest over on the Ll board last night [14:02] <@WillyB> what did you do??? [14:02] *** Joins: SirMoby [14:02] wouldn't sweat it none [14:03] hiya Sirmoby [14:03] Hey folks [14:03] we used to review for a smaller LL - got a submission from a webmaster who also runs a ll - it had a blind link that ate the browser and installed some shit - I made a comment without naming names - next thing we weren't reviewing anymore [14:04] I just took a quick look at the board and noticed you all are here :) [14:04] hey Steve [14:04] <@WillyB> i c [14:04] didn't know about that part... bummer [14:04] <@WillyB> hi ya SirMoby [14:05] *** Joins: cheekymarie [14:05] I here too [14:05] g'day sirmoby [14:06] Good morning all [14:07] Hi Marie [14:07] HI Rowdy [14:07] <@WillyB> hello cheekymarie [14:07] What a day.Having issues with DNS,Domain registrations, slow sales.On the other hand I found a bunch of new pornstar content nad i'm getting almost everything I own approved for AC GOld :)) [14:07] i mussa been bad [14:07] It's 5:07am here [14:08] Hi WillyB [14:08] morning Gonzo [14:09] Hey Marie, Steve, I need to call a friend of mine in Australia later today.I should do it now because she woke me the last time she called me :)) [14:09] hi gonzo [14:09] Thought I had been a bad boy [14:09] <@WillyB> I didn't see ya sneek in hear gonzo! [14:09] <@WillyB> sorry about that! [14:09] *** WillyB sets mode: +o Rowdy [14:09] lol well this would be the best time to do it then SirMoby [14:10] Your just mad cuz Im close to Club Kreeme hahaha [14:11] It would be funny [14:11] <@Rowdy> ok all ... I'm over at Wily's place so I need to run home and make sure all is good with out little planned suprise announcement today [14:12] *** Joins: Boodrow [14:12] <@Rowdy> I'll be back in a bit so stick around :) [14:12] otay [14:12] <@Rowdy> Hiya boodrow [14:12] ok Rowdy [14:12] <@Rowdy> later Boodrow [14:12] Hey guys! What's goin on! lol Rowdy [14:12] <@Rowdy> :) Be back in a few [14:13] <@WillyB> hello Boodrow [14:13] So Willy...werent you in AWE in Atlanta? [14:13] <@WillyB> no, I wasn't [14:13] hey Willy! What's today's chat about? [14:13] <@WillyB> I have only been to Chicago [14:13] <@WillyB> see ya Rowdy [14:13] ahh then you didnt get the Kreme joke [14:13] *** Quits: Rowdy (QUIT: User exited) [14:14] Willy, are you going to Vegas in Jan? [14:15] *** Joins: butch [14:17] *** Joins: dan [14:17] <@WillyB> hello butch [14:17] <@WillyB> hi ya dan [14:17] is there a scheduled chat here now today? [14:18] <@WillyB> yes, this is the newbie chat [14:18] thought so [14:18] well I have a newbie question [14:18] <@WillyB> Rowdy will be back in a few [14:18] *** Quits: juststeve (Connection reset by peer) [14:18] <@WillyB> cool! [14:18] I just learned FrontPage [14:18] and I hate to give it up [14:19] but on the boards people seem to say [14:19] Do Not Use Front Page ! [14:19] <@WillyB> I would have to agree with them [14:19] Frontpage is nice but you have no control over the HTNL that it creates [14:19] sob [14:19] HTML [14:19] *** Joins: aragorn [14:19] <@WillyB> have you right clicked and viewed the source of a front page page? [14:19] I use Home Site - It's free for 60 days [14:19] <@WillyB> wb aragorn [14:19] Dreamweaver or Ultradev is what I used [14:19] ty [14:20] <@WillyB> I use Homesite and notepade.. and sometimes ultra-edit [14:20] is it just plain best to use only HTML? [14:20] <@WillyB> notepad [14:20] or are there any acceptable wysiwyg? [14:20] <@WillyB> yes... [14:21] I still use notepad a lot [14:22] GonZo when do use Dreamweaver/Ultradev, and when do you use strictly HTML? [14:22] <@WillyB> they all use straighht html [14:22] <@WillyB> its just that most will add a lot of un nessicary code [14:22] Yup all html. Notepad is just fora quick code of edit of something [14:23] <@WillyB> so it make the page take longer to load and w/ frontpage it can add things that will not work [14:23] *** Joins: juststeve [14:23] <@WillyB> Homesite is a great program [14:23] yup [14:24] <@WillyB> it has both modes so you can wysiwyg with it, but it will tell you it may mess with your formatting [14:24] <@WillyB> when y9ou go into that mode [14:24] Once someone gets expert at HTML do they ever use a wysiwyg program? [14:24] whats wysiwyg? [14:25] I sure as hell do but hen again Im no expert [14:25] what you see is what you get [14:25] oh lol [14:25] I think for sheer speed some of the wysiwyg proggys are hard to beat [14:25] <@WillyB> http://www.allaire.com/Products/HomeSite/ [14:25] <@WillyB> some of them are ok [14:26] Marie and I use dreamweaver - its code is pretty clean but it sometimes does strange stuff [14:26] WillyB you like homesite because it messes with your code the least? [14:26] <@WillyB> I usually don't use that mode with homesite, I like to see the code I am writing [14:26] <@WillyB> Actualy, i use the edit mode, not wyswyg mode [14:26] WillyB do you usually write only html code? [14:27] <@WillyB> as apposed to what butch [14:27] Homesite rocks. [14:27] if just writing html, why use homesite? [14:27] *** Joins: Bestat [14:27] *** Joins: urb [14:27] <@WillyB> I have some phtml pages so I can use phpmyads new [14:27] <@WillyB> hello Bestat!!! [14:27] Hi ya WillyB [14:27] *** Joins: nola [14:27] <@WillyB> hi ya nola :) [14:28] It has alot of tools that make writing html easier. Not wysiwyg [14:28] Hi Nola, Hi Bestat [14:28] <@WillyB> helo urb [14:28] Hi cheekymarie [14:28] Hello everyone [14:28] g'day urb [14:28] Hi all, sorry I'm late. [14:28] Hi urb, missed you as you popped in [14:28] <@WillyB> butch.. homesite automates writng the code... [14:29] *** Joins: jaaron [14:29] <@WillyB> it will build a table for you very easily [14:29] <@WillyB> for instance [14:29] Hello :) [14:29] <@WillyB> hello jaaron [14:29] hi [14:29] morning Jaaron [14:29] hi again :) [14:30] thanks for all the input [14:30] <@WillyB> do you know html at all butch? [14:30] looks like I'm going to have to drop FrontPage [14:30] <@WillyB> sure [14:30] and get into html [14:30] <@WillyB> there is a very good basic course on NetSurprise [14:30] *** Joins: Frank [14:30] probably with Homesite [14:30] <@WillyB> Hello Frank :) [14:30] buy a Dummies book - thats how Marie and I started about 4 years ago [14:30] I'd say that Frontpage is good to start with, tho. As long as you look at the code, and learn. [14:30] Hi Frank [14:31] morning Frank [14:31] Hey, sorry I'm late. Haven't been able to get on for the last hour or so [14:31] <@WillyB> Here you go butch: http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learning_center/learn_html/html_index.html [14:31] one of the things I liked about FrontPage was the ability to flip back and forth between Preview and HTML and the wysiwyg functions [14:31] <@WillyB> Great show last night Bestat! [14:31] can you do anything like that in Homesite? [14:32] Homesite will do that too. [14:32] <@WillyB> did you get my wrong answers ok over there at emg? heehe [14:32] Yea OffCenter was good last night [14:32] thanks for the links to homesite and html tutorial [14:32] <@WillyB> sure butch... use them.. they are free.. at least the tutorial is ! [14:32] Just goto http://allaire.com it's a 60 day free tiral Butch [14:32] <@WillyB> homesite has a trial too.. so it's sorta freee [14:32] *** Joins: Rowdy [14:32] thx Boodrow, looks like I'll be a homesite'r soon [14:33] <@WillyB> wb Rowdy [14:33] warned ya I'd be back :) [14:33] wb Rowdy [14:33] <@WillyB> LOL [14:33] Hi Rev_Sassy, Marie, BigSteve, and all. To many... [14:33] I know its expensive, but dreamweaver 4 is really the top thing out there, and they have free trial [14:33] geez rowdy you must tear up the road in that ex cop car of yours :) [14:33] NP! BTW, the trial is about 50 days, I think. Does that sound right, WillyB? [14:33] Rowdy do you live next door to Willy? [14:33] so how goes it? did i miss anything exciting? :) [14:33] *** Joins: Kaiser [14:33] <@WillyB> Hello Kaiser! [14:33] Sirmoby, only a few miles away :) got a fast car...lol [14:33] Hi Kaiser :) [14:33] Try ACE HTML its free and very goo. [14:33] good :) [14:33] Hiya Kaiser :) [14:33] Nola, I've heard that Dreamweaver puts alot of analogous code into the webpage. Is that true? [14:34] Hi WillyB! [14:34] My car is in the shop :(( [14:34] Hey Rowdy! [14:34] Hey Kaiser! [14:34] Hi v [14:34] <@WillyB> we were explaining how it's very good to know the actual html code.. and talking about editors Rowdy [14:34] Dreamweaver 4 has very very clean code [14:34] It puts some interesting code in there that sometimes you just don't want lol [14:34] Hi Frank jaaron nola urb Bestat juststeve aragorn dan butch Boodrow cheekymarie SirMoby GonZo @WillyB RevSassy-AdultWriters HippyDude [14:34] Hi Kaiser [14:34] editors... yuck... to easy ...lol [14:34] Ok, Mr Notepad. ;-) [14:34] Front Page rules!! [14:34] morning Kaiser [14:34] I remember Dreamweaver 2 sorry guys not DW4 adding about 600kb onto one page for me [14:34] textpad ...lol [14:35] * Kaiser ducking [14:35] Is everyone getting ready for the upcoming college traffic, etc? [14:35] <@WillyB> Hopefully butch will get some good stuff from the tutorial :) [14:35] <@WillyB> hahaha Kaiser! [14:35] Has anyone used Hotdog? [14:35] You can switch back and forth with wsywig settings and html code. Anything they put in would be visible. I haven't noticed and it makes alt and meta tags a breeze [14:35] Sure are Frank :) [14:35] <@WillyB> you need to try HomeSite Kaiser ;) [14:35] thanks nola;would someone becomes expert in HTML would they still want to use dreamweaver? [14:35] Things should be picking up [14:35] I used to use Hotdog a long time ago... [14:35] how could I forget sitting in the same room as Marie as she cursed at DW while she tried to find how all that extra shit got into her page :) [14:35] I'll get everything down on adult desing just after the kids go back home :-P [14:35] no boodrow.. but pretty sure the kids have eaaten a few..lol [14:35] Sorry guys, was AFK [14:35] Marie, it must really be early or late where you are, lol [14:35] <@WillyB> there are some good wysiwyg editors [14:35] Hi Bestat [14:36] Hey Kaiser :) [14:36] brb [14:36] Hi ya Frank and Rowdy [14:36] It's 5:36am and I was here on time :) [14:36] Hiya Bestat [14:36] I can tell you that even tho I detest using Frontpage, it makes inserting pics pretty easy. Maybe, I just haven't found that feature in Homesite. [14:36] a friend of mine from college is a programmer and a whiz with Java and html, has been doing it for about 10 years, buyt he's the one that turned me to DW$ (and gave it to me for free) [14:36] <@WillyB> dont' get me wrong there! I only mean you should definately know what the code is doing [14:36] Hi Bestat, cool show yesterday [14:36] Thanks WillyB, appreciate the kind words [14:36] thanks for the response on the main board Kias...trying to get some dialog going in there [14:36] <@WillyB> ;) Bestat [14:36] Thanks Frank [14:37] Kaiser, what do you build sites in now? [14:37] Was a good topic GonZo [14:37] Im working on the rebuttal hahah [14:37] Boodrow, Front page is the best for just dragging and dropping. It doesn't do eveything, but it does a lot [14:38] ok... who wants to see the big NetSurprise? anyone? :) [14:38] Me, me! [14:38] sho thing [14:38] sure, what is it? [14:38] Yeah, I'd have to agree, Kaiser. [14:38] yes please Rowdy :) [14:38] I use Front Page for most of what I do. I can edit easily using it. [14:38] http://adultnetsurprise.com/newbiecenter/ input much appreciated :) [14:38] I do, I do! Let's see the surprise! [14:38] Also tables and frames (not that I would use frames) are easy [14:39] Kaiser, what about FrontPage changing the code on links so that the sponsor doesn't give credit for the referral? [14:39] Yep, tables are preety easy to manipulate using front page [14:39] Damn Rowdy, that is pretty [14:39] uh,... is the page the surprise? [14:39] hopefully this will make it a bit easier to find info and so forth for everyone at the newbieboard :) [14:39] <@WillyB> Very Nice ! [14:39] It is! Good I'll bookmark it! [14:39] I've never had a problem of links getting changed. A url is a url. [14:39] Just takes a moment to edit the URL's butch [14:39] jaaron.. the page and section :) [14:40] Ultradev takes care of the mass editproblem [14:40] yup! [14:40] This is very slick Rowdy, nice job [14:40] Bestat... the Hilton's get the credit for making it pretty....lol [14:40] Ahhh... that's too easy! I'd rather spend most of the day looking for what I want on the newbie center! lol [14:40] Boodrow is a trouble maker! LOL [14:40] Hilton's do great work, no doubt [14:40] IT's great Rowdy! You guys rock!! [14:40] hehe [14:41] pretty...whats that? [14:41] hmmm, took a minute for it to sink it , but yeah it looks good :) I need to wake up a bit more :) [14:41] It is a girl term GonZo :) [14:41] Ahhh... ya got me! It does look pretty good. You've got my approval! [14:41] Gonzo, I post to you on the main baord just a little while ago. [14:41] :) [14:41] <@WillyB> I love coming to the Hilton's Graphix Chat on thursdays Bestat! I have learned a TON of stuff from them! [14:41] front page changes the amperstand's in the sponcer urls on me.Rowdy: looks tight! =) [14:41] I need to get to that one too WillyB, need more hours in a day :( [14:42] Amen WillyB! The Hilton's are awesome! [14:42] <@WillyB> that would be nice Bestat! [14:42] Me too Bestat, too much info every day not enough time, lol [14:42] glad folks like it.. feel free to send input per the feedback link for any ideas/suggestions :) [14:42] Bestat, what do you think of a "business" chat? One for people that sell content or have a sponsorship program and so on... [14:42] It can aragorn, but once you save the html you can edit it before uploading.I never use FP to publish, just to design [14:42] <@WillyB> Make days 48 hours long or just have Kaiser teach us how not to sleep! [14:42] Im replying Kaiser [14:42] aragorn ...does the change in your url's stop you from getting credit from sponsors? [14:42] lol [14:43] cool [14:43] And thanks for your reply too Bestat [14:43] I was up til 6:30 this morning myself [14:43] im not sure butch but i would assume so.I just changed it after i realized what happened. [14:43] Bestat knows her stuff!! [14:43] I would be interested in that Kaiser, be great to have someone to bounce ideas off of [14:43] <@WillyB> She does Kaiser! [14:44] *blush* now stop! [14:44] I was nice to her. [14:44] *** Quits: dan (QUIT: User exited) [14:44] <@WillyB> the things it changes like & to & should not effect anything [14:44] Yes you were GonZo :) [14:44] Very cool... and maybe helpm out some of the people trying to learn the biz [14:45] <@WillyB> they are interchagable [14:45] <@WillyB> interchangeable [14:45] next week we will choose a topic from the suggestions that were given last week for the chat :) [14:45] Sure Kaiser, would love to!Maybe help them not make the mistakes I did..LOL [14:45] It shouldn't change & to & if it's in quotes, should it? [14:45] hehe, exactly! [14:45] <@WillyB> I'm really not sure Boodrow [14:45] It shouldn't Boodrow, but it is a Miscrosft product..hehehe [14:46] I think it is a great idea Kaiser, count me in! [14:46] LOL Damn tootin... I'm just going to get a Mac. [14:46] <@WillyB> lol Bestat [14:46] Mac's are great for graphics...suck at everything else [14:46] Someone teach me... [14:46] *** Joins: meben [14:47] DW4 changes one of my sponsors codes too - in the coding they have a +, but dw4 changes it to %2B... was a real pain to work with [14:47] don't get a mac, please. I know gates is evil but that's no reason to go for an inferior porduct [14:47] Ooooohhhh... blasphemy! [14:47] hi ben [14:47] Howdy Ben [14:47] gonzo: use the force =) [14:47] All the newpapers and stuff around that I know usually us Macs for graphics [14:47] <@WillyB> hi ya meben :) [14:47] Sorry, the G4 gives me a woody with OS X. [14:47] Kaiser, who is the admin for the sportspicks? [14:47] *** Joins: MadamZ [14:48] hi MadamZ [14:48] <@WillyB> Hello MadamZ :) [14:48] God knows I use too much cgi. It would help if I figured out what I wanted the site to focus on eh? [14:48] Hi MadamZ [14:48] Good Day al hi Rowdy [14:48] Hi setting up a picpost site how do I get those first postings update without dissapoiting surfers with little or no content [14:48] Hi MadamZ [14:48] Hi ya MadamZ [14:48] I always build sites in a WYSIWYG editor and then insert the all important sponsor codes in notepad [14:48] *** Quits: jaaron (Ping Timeout) [14:48] Graphics???Check out the graphixZone for all your graphic needs! http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/graphixzone [14:48] Greetings all thanks [14:49] Bestat, TDavid is the admin. [14:49] <@WillyB> A very good way is to posst your own stuff.. then get into the msg boards and join in the conversations and put your url in the tag line meben [14:49] Thanks Kaiser [14:49] meben try using the shavenferret script [14:49] cheers Kaiser will do that thanks [14:49] Hes got a get more hits feature built in [14:50] gotta go, see y'all around [14:50] Sir Moby good to hear your doing well with your AVS!!! Way to go [14:50] Seeya nola [14:50] I put up a picpost using it at ratebabes.com with only 10 pics [14:50] by nola :) [14:50] *** Quits: nola (QUIT: User exited) [14:50] Hey MadamZ! [14:51] Another good trick to use it to make sure your pics are at the top of the list! [14:51] HI Kaiser you all ready for Denver Man? sounds like it is going to be Great! [14:51] Gonzo did you get much success [14:51] Yeah....have a look? I aint posted a single pic since then. [14:51] <@WillyB> brb .. nature calls! [14:51] lol [14:52] yeah will do [14:52] MadamZenjoyed your overview article about the Portland event.Have you written any details about what information and what went on in the sessions? [14:53] If you really want the submissions register the script and you will be flooded [14:53] <@WillyB> so using frontpage is not as bad as I thought then.. as long as you edit the code befor you upload it.. is that right? [14:53] Denver is going to rock!!http://www.adult-webmaster-events.com/ Aug 31-Sept 2, 2001 [14:54] That AWE show is worth anyones time for sure [14:54] Thanks Butch, Sorry did not.. but I think jane from janesguide did [14:54] got ya will try that as well [14:54] Hand code ya slacker WillyB ...lol j/k :) [14:54] We loved it in Atlanta [14:54] <@WillyB> LOL Rowdy! [14:54] *** Joins: Nomad [14:54] <@WillyB> you know how I do things.. homesite and notepad! lol [14:54] brb [14:54] The front page doesn't mess with code much... It pretty much keeps it straight. But their is also a "html code" tab so you can see the raw code [14:54] notepad rules! [14:54] <@WillyB> hello Nomad! :) [14:55] Hiya Nomad [14:55] Hi Nomad [14:55] Hi Nomad [14:55] hello all [14:55] I prefer textpad but it's close to notepad [14:55] Hey Rowdy did I miss the Announcment? [14:55] I missed the chat? [14:56] <@WillyB> almost Nomad.. but I will be in here the rest of the day as will some others ;) [14:56] MadamZ .. it's http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiecenter/ [14:56] <@WillyB> we are open 24/7 dude! [14:56] check it out :) [14:56] Which Chat Nomad, we're here, waiting on some questions, lol [14:56] great to know that [14:56] Gonzo cheers will have a look thanks meben [14:56] frank, how are ya mano? [14:56] <@WillyB> The Newest NetSurprise is really Awesome Rowdy! [14:57] Nomad.. the newbie chat is over this week in just a few [14:57] ok, dude considering, lol [14:57] <@WillyB> I said it already, but it desurves to be said again ;) [14:57] thanks [14:57] keep on keepin on [14:57] everything is a joint effort around here :) [14:57] yea, the new page rocks for sure [14:57] dont expect much dude. It just works...nice talkin to ya [14:57] thanks everyone for all the input about FrontPage, Homesite, Dreamweaver, Notepad, Textpad, etc. etc. Interesting seeing the various opinions and experiences. [14:58] you to seeya [14:58] Sorry folks, I;ve got to get running... I'll catch you all later today! Don't forget to post on the boards about the chat so other will know about it and feel comfortable coming to these awesome chats!! [14:58] See ya Kaiser! [14:58] <@WillyB> Thanks for coming in today Kaiser! [14:58] yes, awesome [14:58] <@WillyB> take care man! [14:58] Bye Kaiser [14:58] Have a good one Kaiser!! :) [14:58] have a great day [14:58] *** Quits: meben (QUIT: User exited) [14:58] Guys now I have a question which I am really confused about... Say for example I click on a link and suddenly in front of me I have 2 browsers, 1 showing lots of free sites by sponsors and the other listing sites by the webmaster himslef, but at the same time, one of those damn things that insert themselves into your program folder and into your bookmarks... how come it doesn't affect everyone that clicks on that link.... just certain people.. [14:59] circle jerk site [14:59] I best be getting back to work myself, just thought I would pop in to see if I could help [14:59] *** Quits: Kaiser (QUIT: User exited) [14:59] Great to have ya here Bestat :) [14:59] <@WillyB> Thanks for coming Bestat! [14:59] Thanks guys, I will try to get ack more often! [14:59] Take care friends! [14:59] Thanks Bestat. would of been in sooner but kids are at motherin laws and i was Asleep [14:59] C ya Bestat, [14:59] <@WillyB> Looking forward to seeing you and kaisers new plans! [14:59] <@WillyB> hehehehe [14:59] The code is specific to the browser type Marie [14:59] marie... not sure why it would do it on one and not the other if it's the same browser version and all... [14:59] *** Quits: Bestat (QUIT: User exited) [15:00] <@WillyB> It would have to be in the browser settings I would say cheekymarie [15:00] hmmm, well this one inserted itself into my program folder it is called Adult-Erotic-Guide and lists lots and lots of sites [15:00] Marie, I would agree. Semms it would do it in all unless they have some sorta firewall or something maybe [15:01] <@WillyB> that's a reg. write thing [15:01] unless of course it was a site before that one or something... [15:01] thanks WillyB and Frank [15:01] I run acrosee sites that have that crap all the time and sometimes I have to go back 3 or 4 sites to find the one that actually started it all [15:01] interesting, well on my little PC laptop I don't have a firewall at all [15:01] *** Quits: Nomad (Connection reset by peer) [15:02] *** Joins: PaulaAKAFetish1 [15:02] Ok, so the webmaster who put that site up may not even know that this had happened.. [15:02] Hiya Paula [15:02] she will have a firewall later today :/ [15:02] Hello Everyone!Late as usual! [15:02] <@WillyB> hello PaulaAKAFetish1 [15:02] or that it attaches itself [15:02] Hiya Rowdy...WillyB :) [15:02] Hi Paula [15:02] Hi fetish1 [15:02] Hi Marie...and Frank! [15:02] I've had one or two sneek by me at first and have had my surfers let me know about it pretty quick [15:03] <@WillyB> my norton antivirus catches those sites marie [15:03] Fetish hi ya [15:03] Ok - I clicked on their entry page, nothing, clicked on the gallery pages, nothing, clicked on their "more free sex link" and bingo.. [15:03] <@WillyB> they try writing to the registsty [15:03] Hello MadamZ :) [15:03] <@WillyB> and it stops them [15:03] Try writing to the registry? [15:03] Thanks WB [15:03] Id better go back to writing ugly sites. See yall laters [15:04] by gonzo :) [15:04] Fetish are things looking better? [15:04] the page that actually is calling it should have a java link on somewhere there for it ... a js file I think it is [15:04] cya gonzo,=) [15:04] by gonzo [15:04] <@WillyB> see ya gonzo [15:04] *** Quits: GonZo (QUIT: User exited) [15:04] <@WillyB> thanks for coing [15:04] by gonzo [15:04] <@WillyB> I knew he'd leave befor I got that in! [15:04] With the code MadamZ?I think I am going to have to code the index page so that it cant be in frames...and see if that kills the problem [15:05] Steve's just going into have a look, he didn't want to try it cause he didn't want allthat crap after I got it .. [15:05] paula.. ya get the target problem takn care of? [15:05] maybe that will work [15:05] Nope Rowdy!Thats what I was just saying....only way I can see to do it is to limit the index from not being in frames [15:06] My son just dropped in so I gotta go for a bit. Nice seeing everyone here today! [15:06] by Frank [15:06] see ya Frank [15:06] <@WillyB> glad to see ya again Frank [15:06] Granted that means the page will have BACK disabled....but the links will all still work [15:06] Take care Frank [15:06] *** Quits: Frank (QUIT: User exited) [15:06] a link within frames that uses a target="_top" should load that link on top of the frames... ya got to have that _ in there though :) [15:07] ACKKKKKKKKKKKK....You are too good!I didnt put that! [15:07] DD said Top would work.... [15:07] but I didnt add the underscore [15:07] And it didnt work....so I wrote that one off [15:07] that should take care of it [15:07] Thank you [15:07] no prob [15:08] <@WillyB> all the target='s have that pesky _ in them too paula ;) [15:08] I was just running that through my head as you said that WillyB...that should have stood out to me right off.... [15:08] Teach me NOT to mess with frames (which I hate anyway) when I am tiredLOL [15:08] you can just target="x" to conserve page k unless you want it to load front or back [15:09] <@WillyB> it's easy to miss things.. I do all the time! lol [15:09] imho =) [15:09] What I wanted Aragorn was to leave a framed page and come up by itself as a new page and no other window [15:09] <@WillyB> I don't like frames either.. unless they are used properly [15:10] Rowdy, Steve just checked that page and that code is not there... damn does that mean that it could have been removed after people complained cause the has gone too [15:10] This customer seems to think they are TOO COOL WillyB...and I just wanna strangle him for it LOL [15:10] <@WillyB> hahahaha [15:10] <@WillyB> I have seen some sites that are done really good using frames [15:11] <@WillyB> but most framed sites are Bad! [15:11] <@WillyB> IMO [15:11] <@WillyB> :) [15:11] They can look good...but they can be so mangled in different browsers [15:11] Gawd Fetish you do sites for others.. Ack I use to do that and just got fed up with customers [15:11] LOL been at it for 4 yrs MadamZ and there are some VERY lucky people to still be aliveLOL [15:11] *** Joins: tia [15:11] could be [15:11] hi guys [15:11] HIYA Tia! [15:12] hi tia [15:12] I missed the newbie chat didn't I [15:12] did it 3 years from car dealers to coffee houses and omg what a pain... now i do adult sites only for me [15:12] *** Joins: Buzzard [15:13] lmao I had a mortuary contact me MadamZ...its been the ONLY job I could NOT make myself create [15:13] lo all [15:13] hey Buzzard :)) [15:13] http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiecenter/ this was the announcement today :) [15:13] Hi there Buzzard [15:13] Hi buzzard [15:13] ahh you missed a fetish there fetishL) [15:13] LMAO Hey I guess I did [15:13] Coulda been more creative than I even imagined huh? [15:14] Gawd thinks of all the hits.. Ack [15:14] I hated missing this chat.. had an appt to go to :( [15:14] We are still here tia... chin up [15:14] yes I see that... :) [15:14] I did a site for a lady that creates wedding albums...tried to get her to let me do a link called "This could be your honeymoon" and send em to one of my sites.... [15:15] couldnt get her to go for it....some people have NO sense of humorLOL [15:15] lol [15:15] tia painted up her lips combed and curled her tianted hair [15:15] FOGLOL fetish [15:15] lol [15:15] it's so nice to see you all together here, this is a great idea, wish is was more than once a week [15:16] lol paula ... 50/50 would have worked well for her....hahahaha [15:16] THAT was my mistake....I didnt offer her a cut!!!!lol [15:17] Well got to run and see to some thinggyshave a wonderful day all [15:17] Be well MadamZ :) [15:17] see ya MadamZ :) [15:17] :0) [15:17] *** Quits: MadamZ (QUIT: User exited) [15:18] Hey urb [15:18] I just submitted a site with the wrong url.You have 2 submissions from me.Sorry [15:19] LOL SIrMoby...I submitted one last night and put the location of the banner in the description box...dont guess they wonder if I can read huh? [15:19] no probs SirMoby :)) [15:19] <@WillyB> hello tia [15:20] <@WillyB> didn't see ya come in.. was in an email [15:20] <@WillyB> hehehe [15:20] *** Quits: Buzzard (QUIT: User exited) [15:21] <@WillyB> you did all that just to come to the newbie chat tia??? [15:24] I have you all beat.I sumbitted booballastics to Jan TM the other day :)) [15:26] omgLOL I remember reading Jans post to that SirMoby [15:26] "Are you sure thats your domain?"lol [15:29] 400 watts of GreatWhite going.. bet the neighbors love me... I might actually hear them knock when this song is over...lol [15:29] <@WillyB> roflmao Rowdy! [15:30] evil steak coming out a bit :) [15:30] shit..... brb [15:30] sorry Hi Willy, was on the phone [15:31] hahaha.. the song ended and there WASa knock at the door ....lol...... [15:31] neghbor kid looking for one of mine was all though :) [15:32]