[03:00pm] www.ukxpix.co.uk [03:00pm] * beefcake says BOO4 [03:00pm] hiya beefcake [03:00pm] hiya beefie [03:00pm] hi Bratt [03:00pm] hi teach [03:00pm] i just dont know where on the web i can put it having adult content and so forth [03:00pm] yep thats the one sec [03:00pm] stu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:01pm] * Stuveltje waveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [03:01pm] hya beef [03:01pm] hey stu [03:01pm] alright pantee [03:01pm] he sec_man [03:01pm] hey beefcake [03:01pm] geez i just walked in the door a few minutes ago [03:01pm] Hiya everyone :) [03:01pm] hi clumpsy [03:01pm] hya rowdy [03:01pm] hi ya rowdy [03:01pm] where clumpsy [03:01pm] what i would do is build free or "feeder sites" that promote this one and submit them to linklists to drive traffic to it [03:01pm] Stuveltje!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:01pm] looking at www.ukxpix.co.uk [03:01pm] hi rowdy [03:01pm] * beefcake says look up stu! [03:01pm] hello dutch [03:01pm] oh in the line right is clumpsy [03:01pm] howdy rowdy [03:02pm] BRATTTTTTTTT [03:02pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise Adult Webmaster chat! ~*\!/* ~ NEWBIE CHAT - TOPI: HOSTING - www.adultnetsurprise.com ~*\!/*~' [03:02pm] heeeeeeeeee clumpsy [03:02pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise Adult Webmaster chat! ~*\!/* ~ NEWBIE CHAT - TOPIC: HOSTING - www.adultnetsurprise.com ~*\!/*~' [03:02pm] its does affliates and so forth and banners [03:02pm] Good to see you all here today :) [03:02pm] Rowdy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:02pm] did you build that site or did you purchase it pantee? [03:02pm] im so new to all this website stuff really i feel really stupid lol [03:03pm] i run it [03:03pm] <_Splitz_> Rowdy my man =) [03:03pm] hi Rowdy [03:03pm] ohhhhhhhh been there done that pantieemma [03:03pm] hi TFL [03:03pm] dont feel stupid - lemme give you a couple of things to look at to give you a starting point [03:03pm] Hi Splitz [03:03pm] hi Spookyx [03:03pm] have a web designer do it [03:03pm] http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/ [03:03pm] hi beefcake [03:03pm] ooooooooooh good page sec_man [03:03pm] and more specifically http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/newbiepack.phtml [03:04pm] hi TFL [03:04pm] its a site that has come to the uk it has sites all over the world and has just launched here [03:04pm] both of those things should give you lots to read and lots to learn :) [03:04pm] patieema - with that domain or other domain, build 10 feder sites as sec-man said and test [03:04pm] PattyeCake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:04pm] Hi ya Bratt:) [03:04pm] Hi PC [03:04pm] hi pattye [03:04pm] hi pattyeCake [03:04pm] Looks like a full house today :) [03:04pm] <_Splitz_> Heylo PC =) [03:04pm] * PattyeCake Hugs Ompi [03:04pm] yeah it does rowdy [03:04pm] hi ompi [03:04pm] hya pattyecake [03:04pm] ompi [03:04pm] 31 people rowdy!!!wooohooo [03:04pm] I want to welcome everyone to the regular Wednesday Newbie Chat :) [03:04pm] hi [03:04pm] dont talk so fast here [03:04pm] * PattyeCake gives hugs around the room :) [03:05pm] Greetings from Deutchland!!!!!!! [03:05pm] * beefcake thanks PattyeCake [03:05pm] did i win yet? [03:05pm] =| [03:05pm] HYAAAAAAAAAAA CHIPMUNK>>>oops [03:05pm] howdy drifter [03:05pm] lol spookyx [03:05pm] Stuv********* [03:05pm] hey [03:05pm] CHIPMUNK!!!awwwwwwwww do you hate me yet? hahaha [03:05pm] hahahaha Beef!!!!!! [03:05pm] Today's topic - "Hosting - learn what you need to know" with some special guest: select staff members of web123's [03:05pm] how r ya [03:05pm] this goes to fast for me :-O [03:05pm] I'm getting to ya hon.. is that thing working yet? [03:05pm] yeah the chat rolles over screen [03:05pm] Its working pretty well now [03:05pm] hang on brb [03:05pm] Hya tld [03:05pm] dont wanna cut into the show [03:06pm] cool.......just need to finish a site.. [03:06pm] greets rowdy [03:06pm] beefffff :direcot: opps doesnt work here [03:06pm] thx security [03:06pm] talk host [03:06pm] rowdy, since you are the 'elder' on the board.. hahahahha have a question for you.. [03:06pm] just need to get the members rolling in lol [03:06pm] np if you have other questions post em on the newbie board http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/message-board/newbieboard/ [03:07pm] elder? lol... well.. might not agree with that one but ask away [03:07pm] * Stuveltje laughing real beef is the oldest one here in chat, dont tell anyone [03:07pm] lol [03:07pm] do you think there is a market for middle aged couples having group sex? [03:07pm] thx you been a great help [03:07pm] beeeeefffffffffffffffffffff HOST TALK [03:07pm] <_Splitz_> Are we ready to get this going or waiting a few more minutes for stragglers? [03:07pm] * beefcake says..bite my ass stu.. hahahahaha [03:07pm] * Stuveltje yuk [03:07pm] you mean having sex in a market? [03:07pm] oh shit.. lol [03:07pm] not for me beefy lol but each to their own as they say [03:07pm] beefcak. there is a market for damn near anything... finding it is the tricky part :) [03:07pm] nopics clumpsy [03:08pm] :-) [03:08pm] i dont wanna see old people having groupsex [03:08pm] beef sry dont know why i put a y on it sry lol [03:08pm] finding is no problem rowdy.. I have thousands of pics and the owner uses my server space.I was thinking of doing avs with them. [03:08pm] i would say that there is because of the milf market but she didnt ask me so i will keep my mouth shut >:) [03:08pm] neither do I LOOOl [03:08pm] arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh beefy is sooooooooooo sorry teach [03:08pm] ok.. we have ompi, officer redline and Splitz here today to talk with us all about hosting.. let's "give them the floor" :) [03:09pm] lol [03:09pm] =| [03:09pm] :clap::clap: [03:09pm] hazzah! [03:09pm] <_Splitz_> Thanks Rowdy =) [03:09pm] Hi All [03:09pm] hi :-) [03:09pm] hya [03:09pm] hi , thanks for coming [03:09pm] We run a hosting service calledWeb123s [03:10pm] http://www.web123s.com [03:10pm] We're going to introduce our service, explain some of the tools we have for adult webmasters [03:10pm] sweet! [03:10pm] and then open up to any questions you guys may have. [03:11pm] Sounds good! [03:11pm] I'm listening [03:11pm] First off we are a hosting company, we've been doing hosting for about 3 years [03:11pm] we are located in a secure and redundant data facility in Philadelphia, PA [03:12pm] pics ofthe facility our available on our website [03:12pm] I just registered a domain that hasno host.. [03:12pm] <_Splitz_> clumpsy, we can help you take care of that then =) [03:13pm] we have plenty of bandwidth and can run any type of servers you need [03:13pm] red hat,NT, Win2k,etc... [03:13pm] we handle both dedicated and virtual accounts [03:14pm] and have no set up fee on virtual host accounts [03:14pm] in addition we also have co -lo space available if you want to send your own equipment here [03:15pm] we sell and configure servers [03:15pm] and offer very inexpensive domain registration [03:15pm] $8.45 per year :) [03:15pm] domains start at $8.45 per yr and have free dns, email forwarding , and more [03:16pm] thats cheap [03:16pm] main stream sites get free 10 page sites with the $8.45 a yr [03:16pm] bannerless on the free hosting too [03:16pm] we handle most of the domain extensions that you would want [03:17pm] <_Splitz_> A list of them and prices are available here...http://www.web123s.com/faqs/view_faq.php?s=20&id=4 [03:17pm] Backups? [03:17pm] Although we handle a lot of mainstream web clients we speialize in servicing the adult webmaster [03:18pm] Hiya OMPI ppl.:) [03:18pm] i like to be serviced [03:18pm] >:) [03:18pm] * Drizzt covers everyone [03:18pm] domain and transfer pricing: http://www.web123s.com/faqs/view_faq.php?s=20&id=4 [03:18pm] hi Drizzt [03:18pm] hi drizzt :) [03:18pm] wait till then end for questions nevdull :) [03:18pm] Ompi!!! [03:18pm] DriZz!!! [03:18pm] *** blueskies is now known as doll [03:18pm] lol [03:19pm] Hi SM [03:19pm] we provide serivices to some of the larger companies in the industry [03:19pm] we handle some large advertising sites like pots-o-gold.com where webmasters send a lot of traffic too [03:19pm] hey davevjr [03:19pm] hey spookyx [03:20pm] it's a customprogram and hosting solution that we came up with for CE cash.com and we can modify it for any of our clients [03:20pm] for those of you just joining, today's topic is Hosting :) [03:21pm] Some of the tools that we have available for the adult webmaster that we provide for free with our service [03:21pm] http://www.web123s.com [03:21pm] if you are just joining and interested in checking us out [03:21pm] are:a custom tgp builder, banner exchange scripts, faq systems [03:21pm] message board scripts, banner servers, and more [03:21pm] redline: how fast are you lines? [03:22pm] and what kind are they [03:22pm] we also have a new site building wizard coming out in a fewdays that will be geared toward the adult webmaster [03:23pm] we have 100 Mpbs of bandwidth available [03:23pm] at all times and can turn up more if needed [03:23pm] at the moment we are running at about 25% of capacitiy [03:23pm] so there is plenty of roomo for more traffic [03:24pm] Our tools alll come out of custom solutions that we have made for customers [03:24pm] and we set them up and make them available to all of our clients [03:25pm] we have some in house programer that can help customize anything we have for your sites [03:25pm] thats cool [03:25pm] do you offer cookies and milk? [03:25pm] :| [03:25pm] lolololol [03:25pm] :| [03:25pm] :-) [03:25pm] jack and coke [03:26pm] splitz is gonna speak a lil about the custom scripts [03:26pm] <_Splitz_> Thank you, you all know me, been in here before helping you guys out with the TGP/LL System... [03:26pm] :) [03:26pm] you must use clear coke ompi [03:26pm] yeaaah splitz [03:26pm] :p [03:26pm] they still make that? [03:27pm] tools are a good add on :-) [03:27pm] <_Splitz_> Ok, and I know a few of you have a few TGP's and accounts [03:27pm] <_Splitz_> Well with the personalized TGP/LL management, you get all the great features and then some. [03:27pm] <_Splitz_> All of your accounts become one.... [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> You can assign a review team user and passwords.. [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> you can monitor their activity... [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> One review area for you to monitor instead of one per site. [03:28pm] does the tools use mysql? [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> Shared ban lists [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> yes it does clumpsy [03:28pm] good [03:29pm] <_Splitz_> That's one benefit you gain by hosting with us. [03:29pm] <_Splitz_> We've got ready to go simple free site gallery builders... [03:29pm] are there demos of the tools available? [03:30pm] wb [03:30pm] wb beefcake [03:30pm] ack.. sorry guys.. hit the wrong thing by accident.. [03:30pm] <_Splitz_> If you can check out of a online store...You can build a TGP site in 15 minutes [03:30pm] thanks.. [03:30pm] you need to put coins in the machine beefcake [03:30pm] wbbbbbbbb [03:30pm] <_Splitz_> clumpsy, if you get with us we can arrange a 1 on 1 demo [03:31pm] lol clumpsy [03:31pm] * Stuveltje beef weeny [03:31pm] * beefcake grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr's at stu [03:31pm] <_Splitz_> We provide you with the software to run your own banner exchange if you need. [03:32pm] <_Splitz_> Easy to set-up, easy to use.. [03:32pm] there is something were I get lost, I am a newbie, and burn 30Gig bandwith /month with 50MB of disk space, not sure if I am able of that [03:32pm] <_Splitz_> We do the installation for you [03:33pm] <_Splitz_> Are there any specific questions about the tools you have? [03:34pm] I was wondering if you guys offered additional disk space on your accounts [03:34pm] Jinx,sureif you tell us what you need we can work out a custom package for you [03:34pm] lets say I needed 500mb of space on that 30gb plan [03:35pm] Clumpsy,our begginers package has 30gig available,that should be enough to help you get started [03:35pm] approx what would that bump it up to? [03:35pm] sure, you mention one account for diferent domains, so I supose I can move sites from one domian to the other and determine when listed [03:35pm] just broad estimate [03:35pm] you don't have to worry about using it all, it's there if you need it [03:35pm] being in phili did you guys have any problems with the blackout? [03:36pm] no probs with the blackout,the area wasn't affected [03:36pm] but we have redundant powerlines coming in from seperate power grids [03:36pm] wasnt sure - if it ever is an issue what kind of backup power do yall have? [03:36pm] I need a hostwhere I can point many a couple domains and many subdomainsto the same folderso I can generate content- my current host cant [03:36pm] when I say sites, I mean approved submited galleries [03:36pm] and then it that fails we have 8 hrs of battery for the whole building, and [03:36pm] Are all the servers dual power supply each off the separate feeds? [03:37pm] a railroad car with a generator in it with around the clock refueling contracts [03:37pm] kewl [03:37pm] yea :-) [03:37pm] <_Splitz_> drifter, we can do that for you...Let me direct you to our FAQ, it covers many questions...http://www.web123s.com/faqs/ [03:38pm] you can point as many domains to the same site as you want at no charge [03:38pm] what is the best advice you can give a newbie that has never had a hosting package before - what is there to watch out for? [03:38pm] if you use our domain reg, you can do subdomain forwarding to folder atno charge too [03:39pm] Ask those questions folks... only way to stop wondering and actually know is to type them out :) [03:39pm] we're looking to cater to newbies,if you set up a hosting account we will make ourselves available to answer as many questions as you have about the hosting [03:40pm] but what are some of the pitfalls you see other hosting companies putting out there that newbies should avoid? [03:40pm] let me se if I have understood, you have a tool were I upload a template and build 10 free sites (no more, or rowdy will not list them) [03:40pm] we're also here to help the netsurprise community, so if you host with someone else and have questions we're still here to help you [03:41pm] <_Splitz_> Support is a big pifall with a lot of hosts and they shun you if you have adult sites most of the time. [03:41pm] you always want to make sure that the company you host with allows you to use aurthoring and uploading tools that you know how to use [03:41pm] rowdy won't list them? ya lost me....lol .. ten doesn't even cover the topsite/linksites I own/run ...lol [03:42pm] wow there is peoples. [03:42pm] redline: Uptime and accessability weigh heavy when I'm choosing a web hosting provider.I was wondering how many backbone connections web123 has to the internet and what the providers of those are? [03:42pm] not the same template rowdy [03:42pm] scheduled chat [03:42pm] Welcome to the Newbie Chat [03:43pm] also could you explain what backbones are so that the newbies here arent totally lost :) [03:43pm] clumpsy, templates usually are only a hassle when submitted to one place over and over [03:44pm] Besides, with the number of linksites available and other avenues of traffic.... a 100 templates could still be useful on a daily basis if you could keep it all straight [03:44pm] our facility has several backbones coming into the data center and we have the ability to turn down and turn up connections as needed [03:44pm] redline, you have a tool for bulding free sites with templates? [03:44pm] <_Splitz_> clempsy, yes we do [03:44pm] OK folks.. hosting questions? any and all welcome :) [03:45pm] <_Splitz_> and a far more advanced one in the very near future [03:45pm] Thanks, does anyone have any questions about their current hosting [03:45pm] mysql, redhad, linex, cgi, all these terms are thrown around but its difficult to understand the nuances between them all - could you give us a "primer" to become more familiar with these terms? [03:46pm] sure [03:46pm] redline: could you name a few of the backbone providers that that your facility uses? [03:46pm] that's a wide array of terms there but most you see over and over [03:46pm] <_Splitz_> I'll field the definitions if you like... [03:46pm] if you are going to run a site that requires database integration,you need to know what Operating system you are running on [03:47pm] Linux's most common database is MySQL [03:47pm] what type of site would need database integration? [03:47pm] it's a free and widely used [03:47pm] <_Splitz_> sec_man, a tgp or link list...and... [03:47pm] lots of scripts rely on it [03:47pm] <_Splitz_> Any site you wish to store data in a structured form... [03:47pm] there are lots of tutorials avaible online for it and many help forums [03:48pm] <_Splitz_> Maintain your members database, accept email list subscriptions, etc etc [03:48pm] it you are running a windows based servers databases are going to be using an ODBC or Sql Server Database [03:48pm] <_Splitz_> you'd want to use MySQL [03:49pm] what are the pros and cons - why would i choose one over another? [03:49pm] ODBC data bases could be as simple as uploading an MS Access file [03:49pm] <_Splitz_> Unix/Linux servers are renown for their stability... [03:49pm] redline: can I get the URL to your TOS and AUP, I'm have trouble finding it one your website [03:49pm] hey EclectiXXX, and wb SM_Chipmunk [03:50pm] <_Splitz_> They require a bit more knowledge to work with but the power, speed and stability far outweigh the power of a Win server. [03:50pm] the term red hat refers to specificbrand of linux [03:50pm] thanx bratt [03:50pm] hiya folks [03:50pm] Do you offer shared hosting on Windows? [03:50pm] nm, I found the AUP, still no TOS though [03:50pm] Or only dedicated? [03:51pm] there are several differnt kinds of linuxes available but red hat is most common [03:52pm] is that just happenstance or is there a reason? [03:52pm] and finally CGI access refers to the ability to allow you to run scripts in your server space [03:52pm] Jinx, go to http://www.web123s.com/ and click on user afreement at the bottom for TOS :) [03:53pm] red hat in our opinion seems to be the most stable and trouble free [03:53pm] everyone has there own opinion though [03:53pm] Some great info so far... we're getting close to the end of today's chat all... hurry and ask if there's anymore questions :) [03:53pm] lol [03:53pm] ill stop buggin to let others ask stuff :) [03:53pm] security man,if you want you can icq or email me with specific terms you need [03:53pm] officer: when that comes up [03:53pm] * spookyx likes freebsd...but i am "spooky" [03:53pm] it's a AUP [03:53pm] 95270987 is my icq and mike@web123s.com is email [03:54pm] looking at 123s.com, you take paypal? [03:54pm] I like porn [03:54pm] * NevDull likes porn, too, but doesn't like Cogent bandwidth. [03:54pm] yes we take paypal [03:54pm] it was more for the folks who dont know what those terms mean than for me redline - a tutorial for our newbiezone would be fantastic tho :) [03:54pm] ok [03:54pm] great domain red [03:55pm] if anyone has specific questions they can forward them to that emailafter the chat [03:55pm] I will give a try [03:56pm] what's a specific question? [03:56pm] <_Splitz_> How many of you understand Bandwidth? [03:56pm] would like to see the tgp tool, and see if I feel confortable [03:56pm] I do. [03:56pm] Your right Jinx, looks like a typo :(but the Usage Agreement link is the TOS, We will get that relabled asap, thanks for pointing it out! [03:56pm] go ahead and give us a quicky definition splitz if you would [03:56pm] NevDull they're using cogent? [03:56pm] oh my [03:57pm] nasty [03:57pm] We use cogentand have access to several others [03:57pm] <_Splitz_> Lets do a lil education her on disk space and bandwidth =) [03:57pm] we have no probs with cogent and find them to be very reliable [03:57pm] wonderful! [03:57pm] <_Splitz_> How many of you build free sites? [03:57pm] oups cogent, whats that? [03:58pm] probably most of us [03:58pm] I think all 432987 of us do. [03:58pm] the majority I imagine [03:58pm] i do [03:58pm] i build freesites.lots of them [03:58pm] :) [03:58pm] Cogent is a bandwidth provider [03:58pm] <_Splitz_> Ok, given a simple tgp site, 20 pix, it prolly averages say 500k? [03:58pm] <_Splitz_> lil high maybe [03:58pm] ah one last question [03:58pm] I thought you were talking about freesites and not TGP galleries. [03:58pm] *confused* [03:58pm] actually, nm [03:59pm] <_Splitz_> nevdull, sorry, I use one as both =) [03:59pm] <_Splitz_> so lets say you build a simple 500k site [03:59pm] <_Splitz_> you get it some traffic from engines, tgp's, link list... [04:00pm] <_Splitz_> And you build it up to say, 1,000 visitors a day [04:00pm] gotta run.. bye all [04:00pm] <_Splitz_> Bandwidth equats as size of site, multiplied by visitors [04:01pm] <_Splitz_> assuming each visitor looks at every pic on your site [04:01pm] OK.. we're running out of tiem quickly... any last minute things? [04:01pm] <_Splitz_> This will help you gauge how much bandwidth you need. [04:02pm] fantastic splitz - that should help alot of folks who were sketchy on the whole concept :) [04:02pm] Zoinks.My freesites are usually over a meg. [04:02pm] any last questions before we go? [04:03pm] I'd like to thank the crew fromhttp://www.web123s.com/ for showing up today and sharing some of their knowledge :) [04:03pm] great chat guys! lot of good info and services today : ) [04:03pm] will send you an email [04:03pm] thanks to all you guys from web123s.com - we appriciate the info! [04:03pm] thanks for having us [04:03pm] You can find answers to most of your questions at http://www.web123s.com/faq [04:03pm] A big thanks for this great crowd today as well! [04:03pm] great chat yall - we gotta do it again sometime :) [04:04pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise Adult Webmaster chat! ~*\!/* ~www.adultnetsurprise.com ~*\!/*~' [04:04pm] thanks for having us and thanks for all of you for showing up :-) [04:04pm] tks [04:04pm] As always, the chat was logged and will be available soon within the Newbie Zone :) [04:04pm] oups, you mean you log all the silly things I say [04:04pm] :) [04:05pm] <_Splitz_> =) [04:05pm] i would love to see some articles or tutorials about all this stuff - we have a dearth of hosting info [04:05pm] yup [04:05pm] Wednesday chats are always logged :) [04:05pm] you are famous now clumpsy [04:05pm] hehe [04:05pm] :-) [04:05pm] I should probably write up an article on hosting for you guys. [04:05pm] good idea NevDull [04:05pm] ok all.. thanks again for coming out but I have to go get a few things done.