[03:01pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise Adult Webmaster chat! ~*\!/* Newbie Chat Time - Leran how to make your own LL/TGP - ~www.adultnetsurprise.com ~*\!/*~' [03:01pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise Adult Webmaster chat! ~*\!/* Newbie Chat Time - Learn how to make your own LL/TGP - ~www.adultnetsurprise.com ~*\!/*~' [03:01pm] and how to spell...lol [03:02pm] Rowdy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:02pm] hi Bratt [03:03pm] grin [03:03pm] bk [03:03pm] ready [03:03pm] hya bratt [03:03pm] spelling 101? [03:03pm] stuveltje!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:03pm] grin [03:03pm] time to Leran!! :p [03:04pm] he orbitalz [03:04pm] hey Rowdy [03:04pm] hya kre [03:04pm] : ) [03:04pm] hey Stu [03:04pm] hey Kre [03:04pm] stuveltje!! [03:04pm] hey Orbitalz [03:04pm] hi Kre8t0r [03:04pm] <_Splitz_> =) [03:04pm] <_Splitz_> hi all [03:04pm] is this with the new ll/tgp thing from CE Cash Rowdy? [03:04pm] We'll begin here in just a few minutes :) [03:04pm] yes Kre8t0r [03:04pm] sweet [03:05pm] i'm all ears [03:06pm] :) [03:06pm] hey Splitz [03:07pm] <_Splitz_> TIP: When buying a firewire drive, take case/fan noise into account [03:07pm] <_Splitz_> going deaf in my right ear from this damn thing [03:07pm] <_Splitz_> lol [03:07pm] hehe [03:07pm] lol [03:10pm] ok.. topic - Newbie Chat Time - Learn how to make your own LL/TGP [03:10pm] Today's chat deals with the CE LL/TGP management tool.. [03:11pm] We are lucky enough to have Splitz join us today to help understand the program as well as hear of some of the great benefits of using it [03:11pm] <_Splitz_> Heylo =) [03:11pm] <_Splitz_> Shall I begin? [03:11pm] Please do. [03:11pm] The floor is yours :) [03:11pm] <_Splitz_> Ok, how many of you have atleast looked at our TGP/LL Management System? [03:12pm] <_Splitz_> If not, do you have a cecash.com account? =) [03:12pm] * Rowdy rasises hand ... lol [03:12pm] meeeee [03:12pm] =) [03:12pm] looked and worked on it [03:12pm] I closed mine [03:12pm] lol [03:12pm] I have a CECash account, never touched the tool. [03:12pm] <_Splitz_> Ok...This tool is something only available to CECash.com webmasters.... [03:13pm] <_Splitz_> In order to access it you must login, access your FMP Free stats and then click the FAQ link [03:13pm] <_Splitz_> That's what you need to know to be able to see what we're talking about today [03:14pm] oh i have to log in.lol [03:14pm] <_Splitz_> ;) [03:14pm] me slow, [03:14pm] we know stuv [03:14pm] lol [03:14pm] <_Splitz_> It's ok, but I figured it'd make more sense if we're looking at what we're talking about [03:15pm] <_Splitz_> Anyway, this tool is something we've been using in house for a year or more [03:15pm] <_Splitz_> We had several of our own TGP's and Link Lists and they were a beast to maintain [03:15pm] he chipmunk.grin.sttttttt [03:16pm] logged in here (still have to finish my damn site to begin with though...lol) [03:16pm] <_Splitz_> So this is the exact same tool we use in house and decided it was too good not to share. =) [03:16pm] yeah yeah wait for me me getting in [03:16pm] <_Splitz_> This system was designed with simplicity in mind.... [03:16pm] i know how it works, bugged rowdy all the time.lol. now i need time to finished it [03:16pm] lol stuveltje .. ya don't bug me...haha [03:17pm] <_Splitz_> Once you're familiar with it you can develop an entire tgp/ll site in under a hour. [03:17pm] <_Splitz_> Once it's set-up, you have no html to edit..... [03:17pm] <_Splitz_> It updates dynamically via javascripts we host.... [03:17pm] <_Splitz_> All you need to do is log in and review the pre-screened sites... [03:18pm] <_Splitz_> Ok, so you create your account... [03:18pm] Creating my account. [03:18pm] <_Splitz_> thanks Kre8t0r =) [03:18pm] grin i know rowdy there will be a time you regret that.lolololol [03:19pm] <_Splitz_> you may have as many accounts as you like [03:19pm] ? [03:19pm] lol stuveltje [03:19pm] oh for the Ll thingie [03:19pm] <_Splitz_> For example, you may run two tgp's [03:19pm] <_Splitz_> or... [03:19pm] 15 LLs [03:19pm] lol [03:19pm] kool [03:19pm] <_Splitz_> You may wish to list some of your own hosted galleries... [03:19pm] <_Splitz_> and have them randomly drop in [03:19pm] yep yep yep [03:19pm] <_Splitz_> and submitted sites below [03:19pm] many :p [03:20pm] <_Splitz_> so you use 2 accounts to keep them seperated =) [03:20pm] ok... [03:20pm] mmmm [03:20pm] one for the script one for the galleries? [03:20pm] <_Splitz_> Kre, one for your sites, one for others sites [03:21pm] Got my account going. [03:21pm] OK [03:21pm] <_Splitz_> Ok, once you've signed up, you'll receive detailed instructions that walk you through set-up [03:21pm] ok [03:21pm] <_Splitz_> So lets go over some of this in general [03:22pm] <_Splitz_> One of the first things you need to do is set-up information about your site and your rules... [03:22pm] Before we go too far, is this going to help me make code to put on my own site, or does this involve hosting stuff at CE? [03:22pm] <_Splitz_> So we do that, once logged in, in the "Site Admin" area.. [03:22pm] <_Splitz_> Nev, your own site [03:22pm] <_Splitz_> use your own server or a freehost, doesn't matter [03:23pm] <_Splitz_> no programs to install wherever you host [03:23pm] <_Splitz_> just some simple javascripts to past in [03:23pm] OK [03:23pm] So I put Javascript on my page which pulls some info from CE. [03:23pm] <_Splitz_> ok, so we want to look at the Site Admin somewhat... =) [03:23pm] <_Splitz_> yup Nev =) [03:23pm] makes owning a LL or TGP a lot easier :) [03:24pm] <_Splitz_> The first 3 fields are general information used in emails the system generates when people submit a site... [03:24pm] <_Splitz_> Self explanatory.... [03:24pm] <_Splitz_> Site URL, URL of your TGP, again used for emails mainly.... [03:25pm] <_Splitz_> ok, the first important part...Submit URL.... [03:25pm] <_Splitz_> This would be the actual URL webmasters go to to submit their site [03:25pm] <_Splitz_> this is needed so we can send error feedback to the users when they submit a site that doesn't meet your rules [03:25pm] <_Splitz_> this way they see the error on your pages, not ours.. [03:26pm] <_Splitz_> ok, the success url, this is where you want webmasters sent to after submitting a site [03:26pm] <_Splitz_> IE, Your site is now waiting for review, check out CECash cause it kicks ass with your referral code =) [03:26pm] ie a thank you page [03:27pm] <_Splitz_> yup =) [03:27pm] <_Splitz_> ok, e-mail footers, this is a little used tool... [03:27pm] Am I fashionably late? [03:27pm] or just plain too late? [03:27pm] ok so you have to make the site then plug in the script basically right? [03:27pm] hi Screaming_Orgasm [03:27pm] <_Splitz_> You may put any text you wish in there and it'll go out as a footer on emails webmasters receive when you submit a site [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> Kre, yup... [03:28pm] kool [03:28pm] Hi Rowdy [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> Some examples for email footers... [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> Promote your other TGP's [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> promote your fav sponsors... [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> or content providers [03:28pm] <_Splitz_> great added revenue possibility [03:29pm] <_Splitz_> Next we have the Link Format...This is the heart of your site's customization... [03:29pm] <_Splitz_> If you click the lil *...... [03:29pm] <_Splitz_> It pops up a window with many variables [03:29pm] <_Splitz_> you may use any/all of these variables so that the approved sites appear exactly how you want on your page [03:29pm] hi, tina [03:30pm] by tina.lol [03:30pm] <_Splitz_> so if you use tables and want each site in a td, you can do that... [03:30pm] <_Splitz_> If you just want to seperate them with br's.. [03:30pm] <_Splitz_> can do that, totally customizable [03:31pm] brb [03:31pm] <_Splitz_> Now we get into your rules..."Site Submission Fields and Rules" [03:31pm] <_Splitz_> You can ask users for their name, email, site name, if you allow pics on pages, check that... [03:31pm] <_Splitz_> A warning page, a gallery page.... [03:31pm] <_Splitz_> Email authorization, a great time saver [03:32pm] no doubt [03:32pm] <_Splitz_> With this enabled users must check their email and click a link activating their gallery [03:32pm] <_Splitz_> this validates they use a real email address... [03:32pm] this is a sweet little tiil _Splitz_! [03:32pm] <_Splitz_> Helps take care of autosubmitters [03:32pm] <_Splitz_> thanks Kre =) [03:32pm] tool even [03:32pm] :p [03:33pm] <_Splitz_> and e-mail notifications, IE send a email when they submit a site and their site gets approved/decline or send none [03:33pm] Geezus [03:33pm] wb [03:33pm] <_Splitz_> Now, you want to classify the sites you receive right? [03:33pm] of course [03:33pm] <_Splitz_> Most famous LL out there? [03:33pm] GG [03:34pm] <_Splitz_> going to use him as a example [03:34pm] <_Splitz_> right [03:34pm] heh [03:34pm] i did [03:34pm] <_Splitz_> When you submit a site to him, he asks what type it is... [03:34pm] <_Splitz_> Free, AVS, Pay.... [03:34pm] <_Splitz_> You can do the same.. [03:34pm] <_Splitz_> Same goes for Niches... [03:34pm] <_Splitz_> Enter 1 per line and it dynamically builds into the submit form [03:35pm] kool that was my model for the one i'm doing now [03:35pm] <_Splitz_> Do you require a recip be up?If so, enter what you require in that field.... [03:35pm] I am so lost. Do you guys keep transcripts of chats? [03:35pm] <_Splitz_> minimum number of pics that the site should have on a gallery page [03:35pm] yep i have the same, avs free and pay [03:36pm] can you use a table system link GG for recips? [03:36pm] link=like [03:36pm] damn i cant type today [03:36pm] <_Splitz_> Kre, somewhat, it does an exact recip check...down to spacing [03:36pm] lol [03:36pm] ok [03:37pm] have you seen the way GG has his by niche? [03:37pm] <_Splitz_> If you accept a site description...Enter how long the description can be.. [03:37pm] <_Splitz_> yup yup [03:37pm] ok [03:37pm] back.. sorry bout that [03:37pm] <_Splitz_> Just enter a partial URL in that case... [03:37pm] wb Rowdy [03:37pm] <_Splitz_> IE, your domain for recip... [03:37pm] <_Splitz_> also you can define how many sponsor links you accept on the sites per page.... [03:37pm] yes Screaming_Orgasm.. you can find the chat logs in the Newbie Zone :) [03:37pm] ok [03:37pm] <_Splitz_> Now, with all of that set-up... [03:38pm] TY Rowdy [03:38pm] <_Splitz_> Our system pre-screens EVERYTHING there [03:38pm] <_Splitz_> Someone submits a site, we make sure it has the right number of pics, not too many sponsors, has a recip... [03:38pm] <_Splitz_> pics are/aren't on pic pages [03:38pm] <_Splitz_> etc etc [03:38pm] <_Splitz_> if something is wrong, we don't accept the site for you to revie [03:39pm] <_Splitz_> this eliminates a lot of your BS sites [03:39pm] <_Splitz_> we take alot of the junk out of your review process this way [03:39pm] how is it with the sites who are linked, will there be a bot running thru it to check cheaters? [03:39pm] <_Splitz_> additionally... [03:39pm] <_Splitz_> stuv, thas next =) [03:39pm] :) [03:39pm] oh now i am to fast.lololol [03:39pm] <_Splitz_> We check 1/3 of the approved sites a day [03:40pm] ackkkkkkk, i wanted to cheat on my own LL [03:40pm] <_Splitz_> So if someone pulls your recip, we pull them and replace them with a ce hosted gallery with your fmp code [03:40pm] still a good deal [03:40pm] <_Splitz_> stuc, you can do that, set-up 2 accounts..... [03:40pm] <_Splitz_> 1 for your rules [03:40pm] <_Splitz_> 1 for public rules [03:41pm] <_Splitz_> Also if sites go offline, they come out as well... [03:41pm] yep i was figuring out that, grin i want some Ll for my own stuff and some for others [03:41pm] <_Splitz_> So we automatically eliminate the bullshit sites you normally would review... [03:41pm] <_Splitz_> Then we make sure they keep following the rules [03:42pm] <_Splitz_> no maintenance for you [03:42pm] Will we get an e-mail that a site has been yanked? [03:42pm] <_Splitz_> ok...so you've got this all set-up, now you're ready for some javascript code... [03:42pm] <_Splitz_> Yes.. [03:42pm] It's really a great tool in all kinds of aspects IMHO [03:42pm] <_Splitz_> first we check several control sites around the world.. [03:42pm] <_Splitz_> to make sure there's no router issues [03:42pm] <_Splitz_> then we'll review the stes [03:43pm] hell i like the blacklist.lol [03:43pm] <_Splitz_> so if they're down, they're really down and not a network issue [03:43pm] I might have to just switch Erotica over to this [03:43pm] :) [03:43pm] <_Splitz_> ok, so this is all set-up, lets go to generate javascript =) [03:44pm] <_Splitz_> ok, remember the submit url and thanks url? [03:44pm] <_Splitz_> all you need to do is plop those two javascripts, 1 on each page... [03:44pm] <_Splitz_> And you're set-up to receive submissions [03:44pm] <_Splitz_> all there is too it [03:44pm] <_Splitz_> at a later time, you change rules in the site admin.... [03:44pm] <_Splitz_> you don't need to replace thecode [03:45pm] <_Splitz_> it's dynamic...builds the forms for you from our servers... [03:45pm] yep, great thing [03:45pm] <_Splitz_> so you don't need to know forms, don't need to edit html.... [03:45pm] <_Splitz_> setup once, yer done... [03:45pm] can't beat it :) [03:45pm] <_Splitz_> Below, is the good part =) [03:46pm] <_Splitz_> we have all these ways of pulling sites [03:46pm] <_Splitz_> we can say we want all free sites, in asian niche sorted by date starting at 0 - 50 [03:46pm] <_Splitz_> select those options here, click build code, it gives you the javascript to do exactly that [03:47pm] <_Splitz_> now you'll do this several times, for each niche... [03:47pm] <_Splitz_> place as many as you want on your pages... [03:47pm] <_Splitz_> once it's set-up, never edit those pages again [03:48pm] <_Splitz_> the listings are again, dynamically pulled from our server [03:48pm] <_Splitz_> and they're displayed using your link format [03:48pm] <_Splitz_> Those are the basics you need to get started, but... [03:49pm] <_Splitz_> What good is a TGP without traffic? =) [03:49pm] something tells me there's more... :) [03:49pm] <_Splitz_> Last week we rolled out a traffic trade system, IE a banner exchange [03:49pm] <_Splitz_> upload your banner, a text link and where you want the traffic sent [03:50pm] <_Splitz_> place another javascript on your page(s).. [03:50pm] <_Splitz_> and you're now trading traffic with other webmasters using this system... =) [03:50pm] <_Splitz_> We're pumping some of our own traffic into it... [03:51pm] <_Splitz_> So you're guarenteed to get some more visitors to your sites =) [03:51pm] <_Splitz_> There's so much more in this program.. [03:51pm] <_Splitz_> But this should be enough to wet your appetite [03:51pm] <_Splitz_> Any questions? [03:51pm] lol.. to say the least :) [03:52pm] Anyone like to see a sample tgp site? [03:52pm] oke can it much more easier, , splitz you do the stuff we have to do, so my sites are finally finish:grin: [03:52pm] Are the only links which get inserted by CE that necessarily go to CE sites the "substitutes" for the sites that get booted? [03:52pm] <_Splitz_> yup Nev [03:53pm] show rowdy [03:53pm] I'd like to see a sample [03:53pm] <_Splitz_> you get a email daily if any sites were pulled and why [03:53pm] hee tina your back:wave1: [03:53pm] Hi. I've been here just laying low. LOL [03:53pm] lololol [03:53pm] <_Splitz_> http://hardcorethumbs.com/tgp/index.html [03:53pm] to start your own blacklist [03:53pm] <_Splitz_> oneof our TGP's using the system [03:53pm] <_Splitz_> sure Kre [03:54pm] <_Splitz_> There's a "Ban Admin" [03:54pm] kre there are free blacklist for your other lls you have i have also one [03:54pm] <_Splitz_> you can ban by email, IP, or domain/site [03:54pm] <_Splitz_> IP being the submitter's IP [03:54pm] did you say you guys get rid of the junk sites? [03:54pm] i like the drip wiggle thingies, looking great [03:54pm] <_Splitz_> Jinx, yes, we scan 1/3 per day [03:55pm] <_Splitz_> so every 3 days all of your approved sites get screened [03:55pm] k [03:55pm] <_Splitz_> and we pre-screen to match your rules [03:55pm] well, what if I'm on russian submitter? [03:55pm] that's alot of sites [03:55pm] <_Splitz_> so if they don't have a recip up, it sends them back to the submit page stating the errors [03:56pm] coollllllllll [03:56pm] is there a option to accept all the sites? [03:56pm] <_Splitz_> Jinx, that's something on russian submitter's end, if you'd like to still get their traffic you could set-up a flexible rule set... [03:56pm] <_Splitz_> Then you manually revue [03:56pm] I have to run to get kids from school. I will check out the trasnscripts later. Thank you Splitz [03:56pm] <_Splitz_> np =) [03:56pm] lol bya tina [03:57pm] c'ya [03:57pm] bye all [03:57pm] can you use any % of your own hosted galleries in the rotation? [03:57pm] <_Splitz_> Jinx, you want to auto approve all submissions? [03:57pm] yes [03:57pm] <_Splitz_> Kre, ya, with 2 accounts. [03:57pm] that's the way my tgp is setup atm [03:57pm] ok [03:57pm] I just have a big blacklist [03:57pm] and it does ok [03:57pm] <_Splitz_> Jinx, atm, no, but there's planned upgrades, I'll add it to my todo list [03:58pm] k [03:58pm] <_Splitz_> worse case scenario, you go to the review script... [03:58pm] <_Splitz_> keep clicking approve [03:58pm] <_Splitz_> shouldn't take long [03:58pm] lol [03:58pm] had those days [03:58pm] <_Splitz_> ;) [03:58pm] the the reject days [03:58pm] hmm [03:58pm] lol [03:59pm] <_Splitz_> Any questions, comments, things you'd like to see? [03:59pm] <_Splitz_> I'm the guy to talk to, this was my solo project =) [03:59pm] Splitz.. thanks for some excellent info today! :) [03:59pm] <_Splitz_> Wrote it from scratch, original build took two weeks. =) [04:00pm] kool [04:00pm] You did a great job with it dude :) [04:00pm] <_Splitz_> thanks =) [04:00pm] no doubt [04:00pm] took you 2 weeks, hell learning my LL script took me alreay, 4 weeks and then put it on.lololol [04:00pm] OK all, the chat is about over.. any final questions/comments? [04:00pm] need to get the 2 account thing down and i'll be fine [04:00pm] <_Splitz_> cool Kre =) [04:00pm] nop no questions [04:00pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise Adult Webmaster chat! ~*\!/* ~www.adultnetsurprise.com ~*\!/*~' [04:00pm] <_Splitz_> remember, as an examp,le.... [04:00pm] <_Splitz_> http://hardcorethumbs.com/tgp/index.html [04:01pm] great info chat me go to bed bya all!!! [04:01pm] kool thanx [04:01pm] <_Splitz_> np =) [04:01pm] Why do you need 2 accounts?I'm not clear on that. [04:01pm] <_Splitz_> Nev, if you want your own hosted galleries at the top... [04:01pm] * SM_Chipmunk is taking notes on how to do a show..lol [04:01pm] <_Splitz_> you make 1 account for your private stuff... [04:01pm] NevDull.. so you can mix and mach your own site with different rules with listings of a regular submitted kind as well :) [04:01pm] <_Splitz_> 1 for public stuff [04:02pm] <_Splitz_> your private account, set no rules, fill with your own galleries [04:02pm] <_Splitz_> then place the code from that account at the top of the listings [04:02pm] ce hosted even! :p [04:02pm] <_Splitz_> then place the public accounts underneath [04:02pm] <_Splitz_> yup Kre =) [04:02pm] Oh, so just have both javascripts on the page. [04:02pm] <_Splitz_> yup [04:02pm] yep [04:02pm] Gotcha. [04:02pm] <_Splitz_> have 50 on a page if you want [04:02pm] now ya just gave me weeks of work!! [04:02pm] <_Splitz_> so you can seperate niche [04:03pm] <_Splitz_> lol [04:03pm] heh [04:03pm] ok all.. I have to get running but a big thanks to you all for showing up today and to Splitz for joining us :) [04:03pm] <_Splitz_> Kre, haha, shoot me URLs, I still TGP ;) [04:03pm] thats a good thing tho college students await [04:03pm] lol k [04:03pm] <_Splitz_> no problem [04:03pm] thanx for the info _Splitz_! [04:03pm] <_Splitz_> can hit me up at splitz@inetb.com =) [04:03pm] Have a great week all! :) [04:03pm] kool [04:04pm] c'ya on the ANS board