[14:59] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise Adult Webmaster chat! ~*\!/*~-- Newbie Chat Time - Adult Webmasters Only !!! ~*\!/*~' [14:59] <12beefcake> never been in a hurricane hopefully I never will [15:00] <12Lassiter> I've been in about a 1/2 dozen beefcake :) [15:00] <12beefcake> cool :-) Only been near a tornado once in my life while in Kentucky a few years back.. a bit too much on the scarey side for me thanks.. [15:00] <12Lassiter> Used to live in Florida and Puerto Rico [15:00] <12beefcake> I have a lot of family in Fl.. Andrew wiped out a few of them :-( [15:00] <14Rowdy> Today's chat is based on your business questions! We're here to help so let's see what all we can help on :) [15:00] <12Lassiter> I'll betr [15:01] <14Kre8t0r> took a few of my trees [15:01] <12Lassiter> OK Rowdy - how can we screw Visa and MC to the wall so they never mess with us again? lol [15:01] <14Kre8t0r> LOL [15:01] <14Kre8t0r> good plan Lassiter [15:01] <14Rowdy> hi security_man [15:01] <14Kre8t0r> security_man!!!!! [15:01] <12beefcake> hi sec_man [15:01] <12security_man> howdy [15:02] <14Rowdy> Lassiter.. good question and one I unfortunatly can't answer [15:02] <12Lassiter> Howdy security_man! [15:02] <12beefcake> can these business questions relate to sites? [15:02] <12dokk> 3Hi There2 security_man, PhonesexGoddess, Orbitalz, nomad, NevDull, Mr-Yellow, Lassiter, juso, Jinx, FoZzI, FantasyPlanetX, Druid_, Chipmunk, beefcake, Tiffany_Taters, Stone_Cold, Rowdy, Kreb0t, Kre8t0r, Goldberg, Bratt! 2:3)4)5)6)7)8)10)11)12) [15:02] <14Kre8t0r> dokkster!!!!! [15:02] <14Rowdy> hi dokk [15:03] <12Lassiter> Didn't think so Rowdy but no harm in trying :) [15:03] <12Lassiter> Hi dokk!!! [15:03] <12dokk> i brought the beer! [15:03] <14Kre8t0r> woohooo [15:03] <12dokk> time for a kegger [15:03] <12beefcake> hi dokk.. lmao you wrote something but I'll be damned if I can see it. [15:03] <14Kre8t0r> wb JP [15:03] <12dokk> invisible ink! [15:03] <14Rowdy> hi JP [15:03] <12beefcake> I'm colourblind.. hahahahahahaha [15:03] <12beefcake> Hi JP [15:03] <12dokk> 4,4 me too! [15:03] <12dokk> 0,4 me too 1,1! [15:03] <12dokk> 4,4 me too 1,1! [15:03] <12dokk> 0,0 1,1 me too! [15:04] <12beefcake> cute :-) [15:04] <12dokk> thanks, i got my speedos on today [15:04] <14Kre8t0r> ack [15:04] <12beefcake> lmao too much info hon [15:04] <14Kre8t0r> hehehe [15:04] <14dokk> oki doke [15:05] <14Kre8t0r> as long as it isnt buttfloss your still doin ok Mon! :p [15:05] <12Druid_> hiya dokk [15:05] <14dokk> i write my name inside them with permanent marker [15:05] <12Druid_> so early [15:05] <12beefcake> so can these 'business' questions relate to websites themselves? [15:05] <14dokk> druid! [15:05] <12beefcake> Hi Druid [15:05] <14dokk> waky wakies [15:05] <14Rowdy> beefcake.. anything business related is good for today.. what ya got? [15:06] <12beefcake> easy question I think.. on a free site.. does the first page always have to have the word 'index' in it? [15:06] <14dokk> ooh ooh [15:06] <14Rowdy> no beefcake. although "some" linklist require it [15:06] <12beefcake> ahhh ok.. thanks.. [15:06] <14Rowdy> that's usually because most servers default to an index.html or index.htm extension [15:06] <14Kre8t0r> and index.html is default when you point to just a folder [15:06] <12beefcake> I haven't seen that particular rule yet.. but boy have I seen a lot of them.. lol [15:07] <14Kre8t0r> yeah what he said :p [15:07] <14dokk> dt [15:07] <14Kre8t0r> hehe [15:07] <12beefcake> hi daily [15:07] <14Kre8t0r> hey daily [15:07] <12daily> hi beefcake [15:07] <14Rowdy> hi daily [15:07] <12daily> hey kre [15:07] <12daily> hi rowdy [15:07] <14dokk> have a beer [15:08] <12daily> thanks [15:08] <12beefcake> got any Molson's on ice there? [15:08] <14Kre8t0r> so ya only got 3 voice posts huh Rowdy? [15:08] <14Rowdy> beefcake.. there are all kinds of rules .. best bet is to experiment and find those lists that work for you :) [15:08] <14Rowdy> 4 I think Kre8t0r [15:08] * dokk digs around for a cold Molson's [15:08] <12daily> ive been trying to voice post [15:09] <12daily> ill try again later [15:09] <14Rowdy> still getting rrors daily? [15:09] <12daily> yea [15:09] <12beefcake> I am.. but I'm also not using any consoles, html pic pages thanks to sec_man's suggestion, and a few other things I'm finding on the NOT to do list. [15:09] <14Rowdy> you can use your own recording program on your system if you want [15:09] <12Lassiter> beefcake - you will want *some* file called index.html in every public subdirectory, but it can just be an empty file or a redirect to what your actual main pahge is called. [15:09] <12daily> but trying to redirect to sub directory and having problem navigating it there [15:09] <12beefcake> good thing I'm only starting.. lol [15:09] <14Rowdy> beefcake.. all those things are just on some places "don't do list" as they are more than acceptable elsewhere [15:09] <14dokk> i try to make sure i put one in called helpmeineedtraffic.html [15:10] <14Kre8t0r> stuveltje!!!!!!!! [15:10] <14dokk> stu wad dup [15:10] <14Rowdy> Way to many people focus on the incoming numbers instead of the earnings per unique click.. that's where the value is [15:10] <14Kre8t0r> LOL dokk [15:10] <12stuveltje> heeeeeeee kreeeeee eh dokkkkkkk [15:10] <14Rowdy> hi stuveltje [15:10] <12stuveltje> hyaaaa rowdy [15:10] <12beefcake> I realize that.. and I'm thinking of later having some FPA's if I can.. but right now I'm trying to concentrate on learning the basics or I'll end up overwhelmed.. [15:10] <12beefcake> hi stuveltje [15:10] <14Kre8t0r> i might have to try that one [15:10] <14dokk> whelming is ok [15:10] <12daily> hi stu [15:11] <12stuveltje> he beefcake >>>>>Stu is shaking her butt again at beefcake [15:11] * dokk stalks the elusive whelm [15:11] <12stuveltje> hya daily [15:11] <12beefcake> lmao.. i want that smiley!! [15:11] <14Kre8t0r> heh [15:11] <12Lassiter> I try to just stay whelmed [15:11] <12beefcake> lol lassiter [15:11] <12stuveltje> hya lassiter [15:11] * dokk makes lassiter a fresh cup of whelm chowder [15:11] <12Lassiter> Hi stuveltje! [15:11] <12Lassiter> MMmmmm . the yummy goodness of being freshly whelmed [15:12] <12stuveltje> so sorry me late have to do some things, ses picked a domain up very good and need to take advanchanse of that ( or how the fuck you name that)lol [15:12] <14dokk> where do we go to get some traffic rowdy !? [15:12] <14dokk> any suggestions on great places to start? [15:12] <14Rowdy> just don't let "the basics" and "the usual" get confused.... the basics are you build a website to make money... the usual is you build a website a certain way to get listed and hope you get sales.... big difference there IMHO [15:13] <12stuveltje> rowdy what did i missed, please [15:13] <14Rowdy> http://thelinksmachine.com is one place to start [15:13] <12beefcake> trying to learn the basics.. what's allowed, what isn't.. the 4 pages.. etc. etc. etc.. [15:13] <14dokk> added it to my bookmarks thanx mon [15:13] <14Rowdy> stuveltje.. it's a business questions chat today :).. ask anything business related [15:13] <12Lassiter> Well said Rowdy - theres always that tention between your own business model and that of the people you're trying to get traffic from [15:14] <12stuveltje> mmmm i dont have questions, me watch you all and maybe uestions will pop up.sorry [15:14] <14dokk> business model? yikes [15:14] <14dokk> mine surely looks like it's been in a wreck [15:14] <12Lassiter> Link list owners, topsite owners, TGP owners, etc. have their own business models [15:15] <12Lassiter> lol dokk :) [15:15] <12stuveltje> lol [15:15] <14Rowdy> right Lassiter.. and there are plenty of places to get traffic from.. not as big as incoming numbers sometimes but suprisingly enough, I can jut about get the asme amount of sales off "little" traffic as I used to on "big traffic" and I can save all that bandwidth as well as submitting time hassle [15:15] <12stuveltje> i dont want big traffic, i want good traffic. [15:15] <12stuveltje> i like the less traffic and buyers i get from them [15:15] <12Lassiter> I've found that generally true as well Rowdy. The ideal would be to have 10 hits a day that all convert, rather than 1000 a day that don't :) [15:15] <12beefcake> me too.. consistant traffic once this site is really up [15:15] <14Rowdy> i dont want big traffic, i want good traffic... Amen! (of course big numbered good traffic is ok...lol) [15:16] <12beefcake> ok.. question.. lol What is a 'gateway' page? [15:16] <14dokk> just put up on your index "all you no good son's o bitches just get the fuck out of here, thanks" [15:16] <14Rowdy> same as a doorway... a Leading page to filter traffic someplace [15:16] <12stuveltje> hahahaha yes rowdy i just find it on one domain i have, its all ses traffic big time and buyers, the site is never submitted to LLs [15:16] <12Lassiter> dokk - how about "I hate you all! Click here!" [15:16] <12Lassiter> ;) [15:17] <12beefcake> ahhhhhhh that was my next question.. what a doorway page is.. don't have them either :-) [15:17] <14dokk> buy or die? [15:17] <12beefcake> still learning all the terms too obviously [15:17] <12Lassiter> dokk- seriously, some pizza place in New Orleans advertises as "World's worst pizza" and he does great business [15:17] <12stuveltje> was a project of me so is doing good, no waisted time [15:17] <14dokk> doorway pages are usually those designed to be indexed by search engine or listed on link listed and constructed as to conform with which ever specification exists [15:18] <12Lassiter> Funny thing is, it really is pretty crappy pizza!;) [15:18] <12beefcake> dork.. you just managed to baffle me.. lol [15:18] <14dokk> my wife makes the worlds worst chicken, no kidding [15:18] <12stuveltje> hahahaha lassiter [15:18] <14Rowdy> The problem I forsee with some of the bigger lists is this "common" way to build sites that it is creating... I personally let a lot of folks slide on some of my rules (there isn't many) just because the site is different than others. Diversification is always a good thing when it comes to what the public seees so it doesn't create an unescapeable trend that we would all have to follow [15:18] <12beefcake> dork?? hahaha dokk [15:18] <14dokk> dork is ok [15:18] <12stuveltje> rowdy, i dont keep by my rules either i like different things. [15:19] <14dokk> kinky stu [15:19] <12stuveltje> hahahaha me soooo sweet and chicken [15:19] <14dokk> lol [15:20] <14dokk> wake up kre [15:20] <12stuveltje> with this bizz i keep thinking, where do i get traffic if i dont submit the site to LLs and i have found my way [15:20] <14Rowdy> at the present rate.. I see a lot of traffic basically getting into a linklist cj .. one site looks like the other so all the surfers know where to go to get the free content and where to go to get back to the place they were at (linklist) This is not good at all as I personally would prefer surfers have just a tad of confusion and open mindedness left [15:20] <12Lassiter> I think many folks (like i did) get confused when a list has specific rules but then you see all these sites that dont follow those rules - because they are the LL owners own pages or those of partners, and of course, they can break their *own* rules. It's all quite legit but I can see where new folks would be confused about it [15:20] <14Kre8t0r> yes sir! [15:21] <12Lassiter> Amen Rowdy [15:21] <12stuveltje> i make exceptions for friends or some persons, but if i dont like it, friend or not i will tell you [15:21] <12Lassiter> But I submit a lot of very non-standard sites to toplists instead of LLs and that seems to work ok [15:22] <12beefcake> stu and sec_man booted beefcakes ass yesterday :-( [15:22] <12Lassiter> As long as the toplist is niche-specific enough anyway [15:22] <12beefcake> ahem.. day before.. it's still hurting.. hahaha [15:22] <14Kre8t0r> got reviewed hmmm? [15:22] <14Rowdy> A good example is I still have a few sites out there with no thumbs... just a text link to start getting the free pics and then one pic loads on html with ads and a continue link... have ten to 20 pic on those sites and they still perform well.. way to many places won't even list a free site now without thumbs. To heck with that, I want to make the sufer read and get used to it so they read my ads as well :) [15:22] <12beefcake> yup.. and I fucked up.. [15:22] <12stuveltje> lassiter, i never done that, me did a project for ses and it owrks, without submitting to anybody, just a site with fpas and blurs i get good traffic, its a ring of sites [15:23] <12stuveltje> on one domain [15:23] <14Kre8t0r> thats how ya learn hon.....everyone fucks up at first [15:23] <12Lassiter> stuveltje - yep thats another good plan. I have not done that myself yet but Iplan to [15:23] <14dokk> it's called first fucking [15:23] <12beefcake> ok.. my next question.. geez I'm full of questions.... [15:23] <14Kre8t0r> heh [15:23] <12beefcake> when is it the right time to submit to a SE? [15:23] <14dokk> take it baby [15:23] <12stuveltje> well thats why i didnt make free sites anymore, i just found a way to make some ring on a domain and get it good in the ses, [15:24] <14Rowdy> BTW, I'm not bashing linklists (I do own a few...lol) I'm just saying that you are only limited to what you decide to limit yourself to personally. There are other avenues so never feel "trapped" :) [15:24] <14Kre8t0r> -r and ya have obsenity :p [15:24] <12stuveltje> hehehe me totally agree rowdy [15:24] <12Lassiter> stuveltje: Ya can even link your sites across different domains (actually on diff. webhosts) and maybe get a boost in your SE rankings that way [15:24] <14Rowdy> hi cptbilly [15:24] <14Kre8t0r> i'm making a linklist as we speak [15:24] <14Kre8t0r> hey cptbilly [15:25] <12stuveltje> i know lassiter, but this project was just i make a site and without submitting or linking get good traffic, took me 8 weeks to find out but it works, i like projects [15:25] <12beefcake> hi cptbilly [15:25] <12stuveltje> hya cptbilly [15:25] <14dokk> ahoy capn' billy [15:25] <12beefcake> when is it a good time to submit to a SE? [15:26] <14dokk> before lunch [15:26] <12beefcake> lol [15:26] <12Lassiter> lol [15:26] <14dokk> you get sleepy afterwards and that drool comes out of the corner of your mouth yech [15:26] <12NevDull> You shouldn't have to submit to an SE if you get good linking. [15:26] <12stuveltje> yesterday.lol [15:26] <14Rowdy> when you have your tags and text all in place :) [15:26] <12Lassiter> 0342 GMT on odd-numbered Tuesdays [15:26] <12stuveltje> heeee nevdull:updown: [15:26] <12NevDull> :updown: [15:26] <12stuveltje> grin [15:27] <12NevDull> :inout: [15:27] <12stuveltje> hya electricxxx [15:27] <12beefcake> funny guys :-) [15:27] <12NevDull> :inout: [15:27] <12Lassiter> Hi EclectiXXX [15:27] <12NevDull> :inout: [15:27] <14dokk> rowdy is correct as the designated function of the search engine spider is to seek out new sites and new pages, to boldly go where no google has gone before [15:27] <12NevDull> :spurt: [15:27] <12beefcake> hi electricxxx [15:27] <12NevDull> :sleep: [15:27] <12stuveltje> hahahahaha front back.lol [15:27] <12cptbilly> Hi Rowdy,Kre8tOr,beefcake,stuveltje ,and all [15:27] <12Lassiter> :fribbitz: [15:27] <14dokk> nev u ok? [15:27] <12EclectiXXX> hiya folks! [15:27] <14dokk> EclectiXXX! [15:27] <14Kre8t0r> hey EclectiXXX! [15:28] <12EclectiXXX> dokk Kre8t0r! [15:28] <12NevDull> Gefilte fish! [15:28] <12stuveltje> what i do is buy domainname put them straight away undercontruction with the right keywords to get them spidered by the ses, and redirect them to hub, LL and all, by the time i build a site on it it has a pr and traffic from ses [15:29] <14dokk> 10-4 rubber buddy [15:29] <12beefcake> sounds smart stu.. [15:29] <12Lassiter> Good plan stuveltje [15:29] <12stuveltje> so no need to submit [15:29] <14Kre8t0r> good plan stuveltje [15:29] <12NevDull> You can rub your buddy, but don't rub mine. [15:29] <12stuveltje> i have done this for awhile and it realy works [15:29] <14dokk> you need to wash your buddy nev [15:29] <12beefcake> so you just redirect them to your hub???? hmmmmmm [15:29] <12stuveltje> Ll. and all other sites just what you want [15:29] <14Kre8t0r> a clean buddy is a happy buddy [15:30] <14dokk> clappy buddy [15:30] <12stuveltje> slap that buddy [15:30] <12beefcake> I have a couple of domains I'm not really using.. maybe I ought to do that.. [15:30] <14Kre8t0r> be a good idea beefcake [15:30] <14dokk> raining heavily here in georgia [15:30] <14Kre8t0r> better than letting them just set [15:31] <14Kre8t0r> send some here dokk its hot as hell today [15:31] <12stuveltje> hell beefcake i got 64 domains now and i am putting them all under construction also the expired domains, they lost their pr, but putting them right away undercontruction give them the pr back, so i got them back [15:31] <12beefcake> actually one is getting a lot of hits the way it is.. lol the other is for a bike group I own but isn't really getting enough hits to take up the space. [15:31] <12NevDull> rubber buddy, you're the one... [15:31] <12beefcake> 64 domains??? shit stu.. [15:31] <12stuveltje> beefcake use them to send traffic to other sites [15:32] <12beefcake> being cdn that would cost me a lot.. damn $ exchange. [15:32] <12stuveltje> he me thinking big, i talk alot on the board but i am working my butt off [15:32] <14dokk> blame canada [15:32] <12beefcake> lmao.. yeah.. our dollar sucks [15:32] <12stuveltje> yes the dollar sucks bad [15:32] <12beefcake> but it's getting better [15:33] <12beefcake> damn.. brb [15:33] <12stuveltje> feed your sites, got an domain or something else redirect [15:34] <12Lassiter> Are u in Canada beefcake? [15:34] <14dokk> i went to the store today. with a dog turd stuck on my ass. the dog shit in the seat. i did not notice until checking out when i flicked the turd in the floor. [15:34] <12stuveltje> hya bigworm [15:34] <14dokk> just sharing. [15:34] <12BigWorm> =] [15:34] <14Kre8t0r> rough day dokk? [15:35] <14Kre8t0r> :p [15:35] <12beefcake> back.. [15:35] <14Kre8t0r> hey BigWorm [15:35] <14dokk> embarassing [15:35] <12beefcake> lassiter.. yes.. in Toronto [15:35] <14dokk> lol [15:35] <14Kre8t0r> heh [15:35] <14dokk> somebody was sure to step n' slide in it [15:35] <12Lassiter> Presumably nothing worse will happen the rest of the day dokk :) [15:35] <12beefcake> hi BigWorm [15:35] <14Kre8t0r> oops a turd.....scuse me [15:35] <12Lassiter> beefcake - I [15:35] <12beefcake> -l ???? [15:35] <14dokk> it was moist yet firm and clingy [15:35] <14Kre8t0r> rofl [15:35] <12Lassiter> Im old enough to rmember when the canadian dollar equaled 95 cents US [15:36] <12beefcake> ewwwwwwww too much info again dokk [15:36] <12BlueGTim> sup guys.. [15:36] <12Lassiter> dokk -sounds like my 1st girlfriend :) [15:36] <12beefcake> ahem.. I'm old enough to remember when it was worth more than the US dollar and then par for many years.. hahaa [15:36] <14dokk> right on [15:36] <12stuveltje> he guys talk bizzzzzzzzzzzz [15:36] <14dokk> we dated the same girl i think [15:36] <14Rowdy> ok folks.. any other business related question that you might have and want to ask? [15:36] <12stuveltje> beefcake, i bet you have questions [15:37] <12beefcake> lmao.. [15:37] <14dokk> yes beefcake [15:37] <12beefcake> I'm going to be known as 'one more question beefcake'.. [15:37] <14Rowdy> what about you daily? anything on your mind today? [15:37] <12stuveltje> yes your blonde....... me hiding and sticking my tonque out [15:37] <12daily> i always have to much on my mind:) [15:37] <14dokk> if your tongue is sticking out you aren't hiding [15:38] <14dokk> right on daily [15:38] <12stuveltje> yes i am bleeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh [15:38] <12beefcake> ok.. sponsors.. is there somewhere where I can go to figure out what all these damn programs they have ? [15:38] <12stuveltje> read beefcake all sponsors have faq [15:38] <14dokk> yes beefcake read dammit [15:38] <12beefcake> I go to sponsors and they have 6, 8 different frikken programs and I don't know how to make it all make sense yet.. lol [15:39] <12beefcake> I READ.. hahhaa but when you are so new you don't understand all the terms yet. [15:39] <12Lassiter> I think security_man was working on a resource just for that purpose beefcake [15:39] <12beefcake> cool [15:39] <14dokk> they don't even understand the terms beefcake it's designed to be confusing [15:39] <14Rowdy> beefcake http://thesponsormachine.com [15:39] <14dokk> like cellular minutes [15:39] <12stuveltje> yeah where is sec_man that lazy bum, and i dare to tell that if he is here [15:39] <12daily> the best thing is to dive in keep reading over and over and slowly starts to make sense..beefcake [15:39] <12stuveltje> craftyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [15:39] <12security_man> i am here LOL [15:39] <14dokk> security man! [15:39] <12security_man> just on the phone :p [15:39] <12daily> i think:) [15:40] <12crafty> hiyaaa girl glad to see you arent all wet! [15:40] <12stuveltje> sec-man you hiding sneaky bastard [15:40] <14dokk> hi crafty welcome [15:40] <12Lassiter> Hi crafty [15:40] <12beefcake> hi crafty [15:40] <12daily> hi crafty and sec man [15:40] <12stuveltje> yes crafty but still scary here [15:40] <12beefcake> lmao I'm going to need trifocals at this rate.. [15:40] <14Kre8t0r> hi crafty [15:40] <14Rowdy> hi crafty [15:40] <12Spade_Work> knew i was missing something [15:40] <14Rowdy> hi Spade [15:41] <14dokk> hi blue spade! [15:41] <12stuveltje> hya blue-spade [15:41] <12Blue_Spade> hey rowdy [15:41] <14Kre8t0r> Blue_Spade gets a detention :p [15:41] <12beefcake> hi blue_spade [15:41] <12crafty> hi to everyone! dokk, lassiter, beefcake, secman, kred8tor Rowdy.. hmm wonder if i missed anyone! [15:41] <12daily> hi spade [15:41] <12Blue_Spade> heyya dokkster [15:41] <14Kre8t0r> or 30 lashes with a wet noodle ...your choice [15:41] <12Blue_Spade> kre, stu, beefy, toke all the rest of yas [15:41] <14Rowdy> beefcake.. start here http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/qanda.phtml if you already haven't [15:41] <12Blue_Spade> I choose getting whipped . . . as long as your woman is doing the whipping! [15:41] <12Blue_Spade> love ya bratt [15:41] <12Blue_Spade> ;) [15:41] <12stuveltje> yes beefcake start and remember lol me hiding again [15:41] <14Kre8t0r> hehehe [15:42] <12stuveltje> hehehe bratt??? [15:42] <14Kre8t0r> shes napping atm [15:42] <12stuveltje> mmmmmmmm [15:42] <12Lassiter> brb [15:43] <12Blue_Spade> so what did we talk about today? [15:43] <12beefcake> thanks rowdy.. been there and read but will read it again [15:43] <12stuveltje> crafty send you an pm [15:43] <14Kre8t0r> resting up to whoop on Blue_Spade [15:43] <12beefcake> and why are you hiding stu? [15:43] <14Rowdy> just thought it might help on some terms and so forth [15:43] <12security_man> lol i just found out that we have a minor legue baseball team here in the area called the "Rough Riders" the stadium they play at is on Gaylord street ROFLMAO!!!! [15:43] <12beefcake> it did earlier.. I'll go over it again though. [15:43] <12stuveltje> because you dont remember things [15:43] <12beefcake> hey sec_man [15:44] <12stuveltje> ohh my baseball shutt up sec man [15:44] <14Kre8t0r> scary security_man [15:44] <12stuveltje> oke whos is knocking???? he he he who [15:44] <12beefcake> not me.. i'm offline [15:44] <12stuveltje> me dont see anyone, oke but me..i am nuts so i cant help it [15:44] <12beefcake> my icq is acting up so leaving it off for a bit [15:45] <12Orbitalz> back [15:45] <12beefcake> hi Orbitalz [15:45] <12stuveltje> heee orbitalz [15:45] <12Orbitalz> whoa, people [15:45] <12Orbitalz> hey beef [15:45] <12Orbitalz> hey stu [15:45] <12stuveltje> hya Jinx [15:45] <12beefcake> hi Jinx [15:45] <14Kre8t0r> wb Jinx [15:45] <12daily> sec man, that was a good topic from the night shift last night [15:45] <14dokk> hi jinx [15:46] <14dokk> w/b orbitalz [15:46] <12security_man> why thank you :) [15:46] <12Orbitalz> thnx dokk [15:46] <12stuveltje> yes ec-man use his brains good in the graveyard crew [15:46] <12daily> i have been in submission hell for the last few days [15:46] <12daily> so it was good to see the perspectives on the subject [15:47] <12Lassiter> back [15:47] <12security_man> okay - sorry bout that - a freind was in crisis and he needed some help, but im back now :) [15:47] <12stuveltje> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb sec_man chat is almost over:ecil [15:47] <12security_man> but the only time i do use my brain is after 10 ROFL [15:47] <12stuveltje> damnn ecil [15:47] <12stuveltje> ewwww evil [15:47] <12daily> in fact im gonna use the link mach. today to find all the LL that you dont need a recip and submit to them...with no recip!!!:0 [15:47] <12beefcake> chinese [15:47] <12security_man> chinese stu? ;) [15:47] <12stuveltje> he me chineze [15:47] <12stuveltje> hehehehehe [15:48] <12stuveltje> tired [15:48] <12beefcake> not even 10 pm there [15:48] <12security_man> good daily - thats what the nightshift is for - to getya thinkin about stuff - its a mini think tank three times a week :)) [15:48] <12stuveltje> he 10.10 evening here [15:48] <12daily> i like that [15:48] <12stuveltje> oh no its 9.50 seeeeeee chineze [15:49] <12beefcake> your clock is fast [15:49] <12beefcake> hahahahahhaa [15:49] <12stuveltje> dont laugh , hell and i am not even blonde [15:49] <12daily> i do think there is a basic common denominator to get your sites listed at the most LL [15:49] <12beefcake> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nice shot stu.. lol [15:49] <12stuveltje> hhhhhhhahahahahha] [15:50] <12stuveltje> he me got alot of hours here [15:50] <12security_man> absolutely - but if you can build sites that meet all the different rules, without taking too long and loosing money, then you are making the most of your traffic :) [15:50] <12stuveltje> evening me talk chineze to many hours on the net [15:50] <12beefcake> <--- needs lessons!! lol [15:50] <12stuveltje> yes you do.lololol. me hiding again [15:51] <12beefcake> better watch for that goose stuveltje!!! [15:51] <12daily> yea but is that possible [15:51] <12security_man> speeking of lessons beefie - when do ya wanna have the next session of sec_mans school of freesite building :)) [15:51] <12stuveltje> oachhhhhhhhhhhhh that hearts.lolololololol [15:51] <12beefcake> anytime pretty much.. I'll try to clear my schedule for yours [15:51] <12beefcake> *splat* stu [15:51] <12daily> one site like persian kitty wants 30 pics when most ask for 20 [15:51] <12stuveltje> nice thanks i need a shower now.lol [15:51] <14Rowdy> security_man.. have it on the board to help others as well .. there's alot of folks out there that want to know the same thing but doesn't have the courage to post like beefcake does :) [15:52] <12stuveltje> its your choise where you submit daily [15:52] <12security_man> sure it is daily - ya just gotta plan ahead effectivley - i was building freesites for a while that had over 73 total pages with mirroring and all - it took me three hours to build and submit one to the 80 or so linklists i would at the time [15:52] <12beefcake> go find your guy and have some fun.. lol [15:52] <12beefcake> beefcake just has a big mouth.. lol [15:52] <12daily> now i could compile a list with ll that want 30 and put them all together [15:52] <12beefcake> and an inquiring mind. [15:52] <12beefcake> and loves a challenge [15:52] <12stuveltje> whooooooooo beefcake [15:53] <12security_man> i wish we could rowdy, but there is too much back and fourth for it to work on the board - maybe kre can keep logs of it and post them somewhere? [15:53] <12security_man> just let me know beefie - if i can be there i will be :) [15:53] <12daily> sec man i am a ways from being able to plan that throughly [15:53] <12security_man> the only thing i ask for in return is initiative so that i dont have to plan all of it LOL [15:54] <14dokk> i can make the server do a log and it'll even format the html i think [15:54] <12beefcake> got a few after this chat? [15:54] <12stuveltje> hhhhahahahahhaa [15:54] <12beefcake> I need to be sure I know where I fucked up.. I think I do.. [15:54] <12daily> maybe after i get some more sites under my belt... alot more [15:54] <12stuveltje> i am laughing at you beefcake, just like you did about my not voive posting.lolololololol [15:54] <12stuveltje> shit voice posting [15:54] <12security_man> ummm - shit i dont - i gotta go to the bank, my host double charged me for the monthly fee and cause about ten things to bounce :( [15:54] <12beefcake> lmao [15:54] <12beefcake> eeeeeeeeekkkkkkkk [15:54] <12beefcake> ok.. no problem [15:54] <12stuveltje> lololol [15:55] <12Blue_Spade> getem sec_man [15:55] <12security_man> you know thats right LOL [15:55] <12beefcake> stu.. we have lots of ducks over here.. I'm sure I can train one.. hahaha [15:55] <12Blue_Spade> ;) [15:55] <12daily> that sucks [15:55] <12Lassiter> security_man: That was an ongoing problem (one of many) I had with one partuicular webhost that shall remain nameless [15:55] <14dokk> damn double charges that happens a *lot* [15:55] <12Lassiter> (Interland) [15:55] <12stuveltje> hehehe i train the duck s here they are my friends except for the goose, eek [15:55] <12security_man> dailytoke - its just a matter of implementing one thing at a time - before you know ityou will have a full on plan to make the most of everything :) [15:55] <12security_man> wasnt rackshack was it lass? [15:55] <12beefcake> but that goose could have been a canadian goose!!! lol [15:56] <12Lassiter> nope security_man, Interland [15:56] <12stuveltje> i will hit them with my baseball bat now.hehehehe [15:56] <12beefcake> I use xamo.. they are pretty good :-) [15:56] <12stuveltje> me a goose lover [15:56] <12daily> sounds good, thanks sec man [15:56] <12Blue_Spade> grr . . . interland and I are not friends [15:56] <12Lassiter> I'm totally off there now, Blue_Spade [15:56] <12security_man> okay - i feel a little better - ive had them for about a year now and this is the first time. its one of the reasons i hate EFT - but they dont do it any other way :( [15:56] <12beefcake> ok sec_man.. I sent you email.. get back to me when you are able.. [15:56] <12stuveltje> me use isprime, no problem at all and good deal [15:56] <12Lassiter> Only dealt with them becuase we bought an existing message board that was hosted there [15:57] <12security_man> will do beefcake :) [15:57] <12stuveltje> haaaaaaa need to ....peeeeeeeeeeeee [15:57] <12beefcake> geeezzzzzzzz too much info!!! hahahaha [15:57] <12security_man> too much info stu LOL [15:57] <12stuveltje> i am waiting till the end of the chat [15:57] <14dokk> hosting is a continuous journey in and out of various states of tension and disruptiveness [15:57] <12stuveltje> me dancing electric boogie now [15:57] <12Blue_Spade> whoa dokk [15:57] * security_man doing the potty dance as we speek [15:57] <12Lassiter> well put dokk [15:57] <12Blue_Spade> that was deep brotha! [15:58] <12Lassiter> Though Cyberwurx is as good as one could ever hope for [15:58] <14dokk> thank you thank you [15:58] <12beefcake> I've been really lucky.. been using xamo for a couple of years now.. no problems yet.. keeping my fingers crossed now I've said that. [15:58] <14Rowdy> ok.. time is about up (feel free to continue chatting) so as always, thanks to all of you that managed to come out and chat for awhile today :) [15:58] <12Blue_Spade> I am with dynamic hosting right now . .. they kick ass [15:58] <12Blue_Spade> take care rowdy [15:58] <12stuveltje> haaaa goot me pee in pants almost , see ya all, great chat [15:58] <12Blue_Spade> thanks for the help again [15:58] <12security_man> sorry i wasnt more active rowdy - damned phone :) [15:58] <12daily> thanks rowdy by everybody [15:58] <12Lassiter> Thanks Rowdy! See ya later! [15:58] <12Blue_Spade> sec_man you are fired [15:58] <12beefcake> thanks again rowdy.. got a couple of my questions answered and cleared up some issues for me.. :-) [15:58] <14Kre8t0r> have a good one Rowdy mon! [15:58] <12security_man> lol - wont be the first time LOL [15:59] <14dokk> so long as it's not one's own ass they are kicking and it stays within the parameters of good value and measured performance, excellent results may go beyond the hypothetical [15:59] <12Blue_Spade> surely wont be the last [15:59] <12beefcake> bye daily [15:59] <14Rowdy> Hope to see folks on the newbie board.. stop in and say hi if nothing else when you can. Enjoy the day/night all