[02:59pm] Hiya all [02:59pm] shhhhh [02:59pm] thanks twinkley :) [02:59pm] howdy kiddos [03:00pm] no problem :)its nice to know smart peeple hehehe [03:01pm] How's it going folks? [03:01pm] hey [03:01pm] hey rowdy :) [03:01pm] brb [03:01pm] good to see ya twinkley [03:02pm] wb Jinx [03:02pm] hi Blue_Spad [03:02pm] heya everyone [03:02pm] hey spade hows your buddy? [03:02pm] good . . . got out of the hospital at about 5:00 this mornin [03:03pm] good to hear hes okay - i was worried:) [03:03pm] yea . . can't say it was the funnest nite I have had [03:03pm] i can imagion [03:04pm] worst thing is that I was supposed to be there when it happened [03:04pm] eek - guess its a good thing you werent [03:04pm] yep [03:04pm] amen to that [03:04pm] hey mrm :) [03:04pm] Hello all [03:04pm] hi MrMaryLou [03:04pm] howdy mml [03:05pm] hi daily, virus and Ramster [03:05pm] wow um hi daily, virus and rmaster and cya gizmo [03:05pm] whassssssssup [03:05pm] hey rowdy [03:05pm] :) [03:05pm] ah ha - now i know better LOL [03:05pm] hehe [03:05pm] hey security man hows it goin [03:05pm] Nice crowd :) [03:05pm] howdy gizmo/virus LOL [03:06pm] lol, hi security_man [03:06pm] goin good dailytoke howbout yerself :) [03:06pm] very good [03:06pm] :) [03:06pm] ill have to leave early to go to work but wanted to stop in [03:07pm] glad ya did :) [03:07pm] Today's Topic will be "Traffic filtering - our next project?" [03:07pm] kewl - thisll be fun [03:07pm] ive been waitin to get in on a project from the begining [03:07pm] * Ramster - if I fade in and out, I'm currently doing a server move [03:08pm] I was thinking of doing this as the next newbie project but I'm not really sure [03:08pm] why arent ya sure rowdy? [03:08pm] Ok I gotta say something here I have looked at alot of places and ANS has the best newbie center on the net and I would like to take a second and say Rowdy your are the man:))) [03:08pm] we can hear you guys great! [03:08pm] anyone having audio issues?? [03:08pm] oops [03:08pm] shit [03:08pm] wrong room [03:08pm] doh [03:08pm] sorry guys [03:08pm] yes I agree MrMaryLou [03:08pm] What I had in mind was a few different examples of how filtering can be applied as wel as some "brain storming chats" to come up with alternate ways [03:09pm] sounds like a good one [03:09pm] Thanks MrMaryLou [03:09pm] haha . .. ynotbob radio show (right?) . .. go home twinkley! [03:09pm] Take a bow Rowdy your are the man [03:09pm] lol [03:09pm] yeah [03:09pm] sorry :( [03:09pm] ;) [03:09pm] i can hear ya [03:09pm] didnt mean to interrupt [03:10pm] no prob twinkley [03:10pm] Speaking of traffic gimme some [03:10pm] The re ason I'm not sure about the project is I only want to try and mak the time to do something that is useful and will be used ... I do not want to create anything for the sake of "having something there" [03:11pm] makes sense [03:11pm] Rowdy why not do a funnel chart ? [03:12pm] Is there anything that someone feels is "more needed"? [03:12pm] MrMaryLou.. actually figuered the project would have a chart as well as a few working examples [03:12pm] I seen one some place once that made it come clear to me it can be confusing at times [03:13pm] oh yea.. filtering can get real nutty depending on how depp a person wants to take the filtering style [03:13pm] you can filter to sponsors, free sites, avs sites even toplist links :) [03:14pm] hi stuveltje [03:14pm] he daily, rowdy [03:14pm] Hiya stuveltje [03:14pm] i think filtering traffic is proabably the most important thing we could be doing right now - we gotta make the most of our traffic during the summer slow down [03:14pm] no way hy sec-Man [03:14pm] howdy stu [03:14pm] :) [03:14pm] grin [03:14pm] its been on my list of things to learn for awhile [03:15pm] but that list grows bigger everyday [03:15pm] lol [03:15pm] we have all a big list daily, grin [03:15pm] it will never shrink dayily toke ;) [03:15pm] daily... the list will always get longer but knowing what to do with traffic is by far more important than having it IMHO :) [03:15pm] hehehehehe, i love traffic [03:15pm] sounds good to me [03:16pm] i am now only focus on traffic not building anymore [03:16pm] you should always build [03:16pm] building creates traffic and a flow [03:16pm] well i am not building free sites or avs lets say that [03:17pm] ok [03:17pm] stuveltje ... you'll be building soon enough if ya quit completlely... to many things a person can loose out on by not building something :) [03:17pm] well i am building other things much easier and not alot of work [03:17pm] what are some of the things you do when you focus on traffic [03:17pm] Building is the most boring thing going and yet the most profitable for the regular webmaster [03:17pm] then when i have finish that i will build free sites again, still got 33.000 pics to use [03:17pm] regualr meaning someone not sitting on 100K+ traffic [03:18pm] but i find free sites and avs boring to build every day [03:18pm] I'm actually starting something new I've never done before and I've been around "for a bit" yet... I'm actually trying the new thing now just because things started getting a bit stale so I need to alter my routine... well as much as possible anyhow [03:18pm] yes it is bigtime [03:18pm] building boring ? [03:18pm] yesssssssssssss [03:18pm] build something that you like [03:18pm] trying new things thats cool [03:19pm] Always cool [03:19pm] its all the same free or avs, its boring to do every day [03:19pm] true mrm but its also important to build something profitable and those get borring LOL [03:19pm] yeah, counting that money sucks. [03:19pm] lol [03:19pm] Not really is how you look at it [03:19pm] lol [03:19pm] daily.. the first step is to track the traffic numbers each and every day... then do comparisons and see where the traffic is going .... then aply this knowledge and repeat.. that's one of the first steps [03:19pm] whatcha mean mrm? [03:19pm] i am only doing new things my income is high enough to not build free sites or avs [03:20pm] then if i finish the new things i will build again [03:20pm] if you finish? is there a possiblity you wont finish stu >:) [03:20pm] build a bunch sitthem aside for a rainy day [03:20pm] hmmm track the traffic. do you mean from my stats? [03:20pm] i will finish sec_man then i will build the free sites i hate avs more then free [03:21pm] whats so bad about avs stu? [03:21pm] why do you hate avs stuveltje? [03:21pm] yeah what daily said LOL [03:21pm] daily.. yes.. from all stats combined.. sponsor, server and income per unique click [03:21pm] all sucks it just boring to me, i cant help it after 160 sites i have had building sites in this bizz [03:22pm] burnout already? [03:22pm] so i got all my new plans and work on them because i did itbefore and it realy works [03:23pm] new plans can work out to be very good [03:23pm] no no burnout just boring there are more ways to get your money in this bizz [03:23pm] well i dont have to quite worry about that cause my stats are pretty much 0 across the board so far:) [03:24pm] thats the think think think MMl told last time [03:24pm] I agree stuveltje! [03:24pm] hey thats good news daily - that means you can only go up LOL [03:24pm] Think thats the ticket [03:24pm] bummer i gotta go to work for awhile. client is on the way. ill see everybody this evening [03:24pm] cya [03:24pm] later daily [03:24pm] yep MMl, and you made me think more, and thats why i partner up with fetish to get those ideas wich i have for more then a year to work [03:25pm] bya daily [03:25pm] thanks security man:) you know how to look on the bright side-i like that:) [03:25pm] Cool deal :) [03:25pm] daily.. we'll chat on the board some more and get those numbers up a bit for ya :) [03:25pm] thanks rowdy, bye everybody [03:26pm] both fetis and i had unfinished ideas, and now will will finished hem [03:27pm] hi EclectiXXX [03:27pm] hi Rowdy [03:27pm] its good to get new blood into old ideas stu - you and fetish will do well because of that ;) [03:27pm] hi electrixxx [03:27pm] hiya stuveltje! [03:27pm] howdy eclectixxx [03:27pm] hi all. [03:27pm] heheh ok ok ho security_man... [03:27pm] howdy hentaibee [03:27pm] hi Hentaibee [03:28pm] hi everyone else [03:28pm] hey thesillygirl is here LOL [03:28pm] hahaha we have the same freaking ideas. she mention things wich i already have on file a year ago [03:28pm] and NO, I'm not here to spam myself, MrML :-) [03:28pm] fuuuuuck [03:28pm] security_man.. new blood.. new perspective.. it can make a huge direction in the path and progress of almost any idea :) [03:28pm] Im back [03:28pm] hey sec. man [03:28pm] lol [03:28pm] ;) [03:28pm] I feel fucking good right now [03:28pm] heya stuveltje :-) [03:28pm] lol [03:28pm] ;) [03:28pm] fucking high [03:28pm] heee hentaibee [03:28pm] ;) [03:28pm] hi Hentaibee and thesillygirl [03:28pm] sup hentaibee [03:28pm] orbitalz your high???lol [03:28pm] sup Rowdy! [03:28pm] not much. [03:28pm] lol [03:28pm] lol [03:28pm] hiya Orbitalz [03:28pm] feeling fucking good [03:28pm] sup Rowdy [03:29pm] rowdy......wasnt i just asking you about traffic filtering ........and wola....here it is [03:29pm] wait, already say Hi [03:29pm] hehehehe [03:29pm] lol [03:29pm] working on upcomming projects for the summer holidays... [03:29pm] :) [03:29pm] ehehehehe [03:29pm] :) [03:29pm] Hopefully I'll be able to submit some AVS sites today [03:29pm] heh [03:29pm] I just started AVS [03:29pm] how's the AVS game doing for everyone here? [03:29pm] thesillygirl, yes .. thinking of doing a project on the subject although it won't be anything that's "quick" to put together...lol [03:30pm] Rowdy... [03:30pm] quite well actually [03:30pm] dont ask about avs to me [03:30pm] AVS is doing bad. lolo. but that's because I got almost no AVS sites. [03:30pm] lol [03:30pm] http://www.succulentporn.com/lesbian/1/cyber_age.html [03:30pm] my only avs [03:30pm] me too hentaibee.lol [03:30pm] first and only [03:30pm] tgp is doing ok ,though, as are freesites [03:30pm] hahahaha [03:30pm] to my shudders. I got my first ever shemale sale today :-( [03:31pm] but hey money is money :-0 [03:31pm] heh [03:31pm] i have about 300 avs sites to far.. [03:31pm] AVS is always a bit slow for myself but I do not focus much on it... just dabble enough for "back up" situations :) [03:31pm] money is money [03:31pm] need only a week [03:31pm] juso [03:31pm] juso: how's the income from them? [03:31pm] jinx - put some ads in the members area! [03:31pm] been only a week* [03:31pm] brb [03:31pm] its good=) [03:31pm] do you submit to link lists and such? [03:31pm] k rowdy [03:31pm] no [03:31pm] I put up a gallery with shemales hentaibee toons, with a big old text link offering real hard trannies 'which are better than toons' [03:31pm] damn fuck man [03:31pm] security_man how do you know I don't [03:31pm] lol [03:31pm] lol [03:31pm] cuz im looking LOL [03:31pm] wish I would've gotten into the AVS thing 4 months ago [03:31pm] lol [03:31pm] seems one surfer liked it at least [03:32pm] i assume also that this is going to be a preferred cyberage site jinx? [03:32pm] prob [03:32pm] I just started [03:32pm] cyberage is a good avs, [03:32pm] I really don't know what I"m doing [03:32pm] lol [03:32pm] because the almost never get hacked [03:33pm] lol [03:33pm] lol - no problem neither did i until sombody told me :) [03:33pm] adultbouncer and adultcheck get hacked ever minute. lol [03:33pm] so I need to add some ads... [03:33pm] and submit to link lists right? [03:33pm] adult bouncer can blow me - i cant believe they wont let you put ads in the members areas [03:34pm] 8 preferred sites a day, Imma try for [03:34pm] :) [03:34pm] damn [03:34pm] that's quite a few [03:34pm] almost all of my avs traffic comes from the avs linklists - i only submit freesites to linklists [03:34pm] well lol . they are crappy anyways. I know at least 10 webmasters who use it just to store illegal content. [03:34pm] 1 a hour [03:34pm] and then they spread passes for all the illegal content freeloaders [03:34pm] lol [03:34pm] Yeah I just looked at Adult License, they require at least 3 pics in the "free" area of your site... [03:34pm] this will ruin adultbouncer someday [03:34pm] Fuck that! [03:34pm] I know who runs adultbouncer personally [03:35pm] ok ok ok [03:35pm] actually its easier than that jinx - build 8 50pic AVS sites a day and mirror them to four different avs' [03:35pm] I'll brb, I need to take a fucking shower man [03:35pm] lol [03:35pm] lol!! [03:35pm] lol [03:35pm] thats what i must make an avs LL ,i got the domain for it [03:35pm] power shower! [03:35pm] lol [03:35pm] WTG. shower em :-) [03:35pm] haha [03:35pm] what are some good AVS Link Lists? [03:35pm] there are some of those [03:35pm] back.. sorry.. delivery came to the door [03:35pm] ugh plseas Hentaibee i'm still revocering from writing 30 gay text links! [03:35pm] rowdy: a box or porn? [03:35pm] wb rowdy [03:36pm] hey MrMaryLou trade ya rainy days [03:36pm] grin hya kre [03:36pm] lol. sorry. EclecticXXX :-) [03:36pm] I deant really meant THOSE [03:36pm] shit - i cant remember any of them right now jinx, sorry but i dont submit to them [03:36pm] lol [03:36pm] howdy kre :) [03:37pm] anyone else know where I can find some good AVS link lists? [03:37pm] I need to fucking start buying some fucking domains and shit [03:37pm] hehee [03:37pm] spooky needs to be around [03:37pm] hold on Jinx I think [03:37pm] lol. some guy from denmark searched for my real bname in google today... [03:37pm] I actually have a spreadsheet of them you can investigate for yourself [03:37pm] if you go to the avs webmaster site that dangerdave runs it has a list of them - i cant rmember the name of the site tho :( [03:37pm] can only mean someone is after one of my domains. I guess [03:37pm] lol [03:37pm] use thelinksmachine.com and test as sure enough, one that didn't work for someone else will for you and if you don't try it, you'll never know. [03:38pm] yeah linksmachine is excellent.. [03:38pm] yep [03:38pm] Da links machine [03:38pm] sorta like using the force [03:38pm] almost :-) [03:38pm] lol [03:39pm] eh linksmachine sucks >:) [03:39pm] jk [03:39pm] lol forgot about avsplaces.com too Rowdy? [03:39pm] well. it's OK for freesites. lol. [03:39pm] oh yeah avsplaces.com duh - what was i thinking [03:39pm] heehee [03:39pm] yeah m, what was sec man thinking ? [03:39pm] thats a good one for ya jinx [03:39pm] linksmachine is cooll stuf [03:40pm] Adult AVS Lists [03:40pm] Adult AVS Lists [03:40pm] avsplaces? [03:40pm] darn! [03:40pm] yeah [03:40pm] l [03:40pm] rowdy runs it jinx so you know its good :) [03:41pm] sec-man updated subitool yet;evil: [03:41pm] I never forget EclectiXXX :) I take care of all of those domains on a daily basis but didn't feel right mentioning that list right then....haha [03:41pm] lol - no stu [03:41pm] tomorrow is holiday in europe.. another day of delay for the sponsor cheques.. :-( [03:41pm] lol [03:41pm] yes you should UPDATE IT [03:41pm] yes your right hentaibee [03:41pm] darn paste isn't working... [03:41pm] i know i know - it just doesnt make much money so i keep putting it on the back burner :( [03:42pm] yes right i am linking you for 2 months what more then 2 months [03:42pm] o gawd i think i would die if my paste function didnt work LOL [03:42pm] anyone here got experience with asian traffic sponsor called Dreamcash ? [03:42pm] what are the main AVS programs that I should submit to [03:42pm] someone said there was about 4 [03:42pm] yes ma'am i will do it i swear [03:42pm] he said for the third time:evil: [03:42pm] well i mirror my sites to four avs if thats what your asking jinx [03:42pm] they are cyberage [03:43pm] proadult [03:43pm] freenetpass [03:43pm] and netverifier [03:43pm] there are more but thats all i submit to [03:43pm] deluxepass is any good ? [03:43pm] dunno anything about them [03:43pm] .. [03:43pm] ok. [03:43pm] sorry :) [03:43pm] never heard of them [03:44pm] I see them popping up all on google and on hacker forums [03:44pm] yah, I plan on mirroring mine as well [03:44pm] that's why my entrance is called cyber_age.html [03:44pm] I'm going to have like [03:44pm] proadult.html [03:44pm] etc [03:44pm] jsut make sure you mirror the entire site jinx cuz each one has different rules and they dont all jive [03:44pm] so my members area can't be the same for all? [03:44pm] hrmm [03:45pm] they can be but the site will have to be built to the lowest common denominator and that means very little advartising :( [03:45pm] its easy to build a template that can work for each ones rules [03:45pm] just takes a little more forethought [03:46pm] yah [03:46pm] well. gotta run. [03:46pm] see ya later all [03:46pm] how many differn't sites can you get away with using the same template? [03:46pm] bya hentaibee [03:46pm] but differn't logo [03:46pm] for instance CA only allows 5 ads on a preferred site but you can have an fpa while PA wont allow fpas but you can have more than five [03:46pm] fps? [03:46pm] *fpa [03:46pm] full page ads [03:47pm] content is king in the AVS world the layout isnt as important from my experiance but i change everything up a little with each site i build [03:47pm] ahh, ok [03:47pm] and make a totally new template with each 8 site set [03:47pm] well I know I can throw out templates like mad [03:47pm] but thats just me :) [03:47pm] I'm going to prob use this one for around 5 [03:48pm] then change [03:48pm] I'm going to make another avs tonight [03:48pm] then I'll have 2 [03:48pm] heh [03:48pm] not a great start but it's my first day messing with them [03:48pm] see? thats progress LOL [03:48pm] security man.....do you change templates for the surfer or for accecptance into avs [03:49pm] it just seems like no one would really notice.....but i dont have a clue [03:49pm] more for acceptance than anything else but there is a reason they dont want sites that all look the same - surfers get tired of seeing the same old thing [03:49pm] i can understand that ...... [03:49pm] and that means you wont make as much money if they see the same thing from you all the time [03:49pm] would it be acceptable to have a different template that you do for say every day of the week [03:49pm] a surfer that gets around will notice and become trained to a site's layout to only get the free stuff period. Slight changes can make that unproductive traffic still have a spark of hope sometimes :) [03:50pm] does that make sense? [03:50pm] and then maybe change all templates monthly or so [03:50pm] sure sillygirl - thats what most do [03:50pm] yeah!!! i am at least in the right line of thinking [03:50pm] oh and for those who are getting into avs two quick tips... [03:51pm] i am just now working on my first free site [03:51pm] first go with the preferred programs - not the basic sites.there is better traffic from what i have seen [03:51pm] ooooooo i soooo need a boat..... [03:51pm] =\ [03:51pm] and second keep your ads simple [03:52pm]