[03:00pm] Hiya all :) [03:00pm] hey rowdy [03:00pm] bratt hi [03:01pm] Kre is away today, i am keeping an eye on things [03:01pm] nobody has killed anyone today... LOL [03:01pm] yet [03:01pm] i c .. cool ... fun time for you huh? lol [03:01pm] hey rowdy [03:01pm] good to see ya folks [03:01pm] it has been pretty quiet today [03:01pm] again [03:02pm] warm weather takes the [03:02pm] "desire" out of a lot of folks [03:02pm] I have been so busy Ihavent been able to join in [03:03pm] busy is good as opposed to not...lol [03:04pm] we'll hang on a few before starting and see if a few more trickle in [03:04pm] yup [03:04pm] i don't mind the heat, it is the humidity that kils me [03:04pm] hi stuveltje [03:04pm] hya all, where heat [03:04pm] Bratttttttttttttttttt [03:05pm] Bratt.. mid 60's here :) [03:05pm] hey stuveltje, hey rowdy [03:05pm] it is 84 here right now [03:05pm] hi daily [03:05pm] 50% humidity [03:05pm] he dailyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, rowdyyyyyy [03:05pm] its 9C here it sucks [03:06pm] i wont go to my summerhome with this temparture [03:06pm] its over 90 here [03:06pm] and our a/c is out [03:06pm] I was spoused to go golfing pouring rain here : ( [03:06pm] so you all can kiss my ass [03:06pm] hahahahahaha [03:06pm] it's so fucking beautiful outside [03:06pm] heeee twinkley [03:07pm] twinkley where u at? [03:07pm] orbitalz [03:07pm] great day here... but work is always first for me :) [03:07pm] same [03:07pm] tell me about it rowdy [03:07pm] our a/c is on twinkely but it isn't cooling this house much, we have a beam ceiling and no insulation [03:07pm] i hear the puter say to me look at me touch me every morning [03:07pm] Well I for one Fucking Cares Hello all [03:07pm] MML updown updown [03:07pm] hi MrMaryLou [03:07pm] HI MrMaryLou!!!! [03:07pm] hi Mr [03:08pm] hya spoon [03:08pm] hello spooky [03:08pm] errrrrrr Spoon [03:08pm] hey [03:08pm] damn tab key [03:08pm] hi phyre and Spoon [03:08pm] hello all... very newbie new [03:08pm] oh hya phyre [03:08pm] hey all [03:08pm] Spoon [03:08pm] sup [03:08pm] very new [03:08pm] soup ??? grin [03:08pm] hehehe [03:08pm] oke me hungry [03:09pm] spoon nation [03:09pm] new is welcome just as much as experienced here :) [03:09pm] • Bratt has rice and brussle sprouts [03:09pm] I like to mix it up [03:09pm] hi Ramster [03:09pm] hi all [03:09pm] ohhhhh brussels sprouts i like them :updown [03:09pm] hi ROwdy [03:09pm] heee ramster [03:09pm] e ate them with patatous [03:09pm] hi Ram [03:10pm] i eat them in rice [03:10pm] hey huey, Montreal in a couple weeks [03:10pm] oh didnt see that hyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ROWDYYYYYYYYYY lol [03:10pm] oke me getting old [03:10pm] Welcome shelmal [03:10pm] yup trying to get my stupid planre tickets figured out. Made an error and now paying through the nose [03:10pm] hey mrmary lou..thanks:) [03:10pm] whe shelmal??? [03:10pm] ouch. where from [03:11pm] Ram u coming opening night the wed [03:11pm] oh there hyaaaaaa shemal, damnnn i get behind [03:11pm] Vancouver [03:11pm] hey stu [03:11pm] updown [03:11pm] I think so. is the party posted anywhere? or just a night club meetngreet to start? [03:11pm] bobbieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [03:11pm] hello everyone :) hi stuveltjeeeee [03:12pm] hi Bobbiekey [03:12pm] nice its getting crowdy here ....... grin looks like rowdy [03:12pm] Party at hotel we are co- sponsor so u have to hit me up for the drink tickets : ) [03:12pm] hi Ramster!Bratt!! [03:12pm] hi shelmal and Bobbiekey [03:12pm] I like drinks.:) [03:12pm] Hi Holey No More Rowdy! [03:12pm] oke who wants a drink>>>>> [03:12pm] joinrightnow? [03:13pm] i am getting something [03:13pm] ok... we're gonna start in just a few minutes .... [03:13pm] anyone else [03:13pm] Ran you are in Canada [03:13pm] oke wait me getting a drink [03:13pm] in Ottawa, I'm driving there [03:13pm] no thanks stuveltjeeeeeei have a diet coke :) [03:13pm] cool [03:14pm] yep , i drink diet coke to, me back [03:14pm] wb :) [03:14pm] ty [03:14pm] ok... Topic - Who Gives a fuck? [03:15pm] ahummmmmmm i dont know [03:15pm] i'm not sure Rowdy... [03:15pm] lol [03:15pm] ANS does of course... :) [03:15pm] hey security_man [03:15pm] oh my sec_man [03:15pm] hi security_man [03:15pm] hahahahahahahha [03:15pm] ohhhhhhhh of course! "duh" oh dopey moi [03:15pm] hi security_man [03:15pm] hey howdy ho everybody - sorry im late - got some server issues :( [03:15pm] nice set up [03:15pm] i need cigarettes, [03:16pm] issues thats an understatment LOL [03:16pm] Hi MrMaryLou [03:16pm] People's success directly affects ANS's success so you know as a fact that when I say ANS does care about your business, it's not bullshit... just common sense :) [03:16pm] Jello Bobbiekey [03:16pm] hell tell me new rowdy [03:16pm] No thanks MrMaryLou... I have diet coke :) [03:16pm] lol [03:16pm] 10 days no smoking for me [03:16pm] cool [03:17pm] I was thinking more of rolling in some jello [03:17pm] use to smoke 2 packs a day! [03:17pm] he i got my smokes [03:17pm] ohhhhhhh ok... count me in! [03:17pm] LOL [03:17pm] way to go daily!!!!! [03:17pm] then i guess you will have to change your name from dailytoke to every10daytoke >:) [03:17pm] * Bobbiekey` claps ferverently [03:17pm] Rowdy may I make a statement [03:17pm] tellllllllllllllll [03:17pm] thanks bobiekey [03:17pm] you wont get me of smoke [03:18pm] or yearly toke [03:18pm] lol [03:18pm] lol [03:19pm] i need light ........to see [03:19pm] got it [03:19pm] now telllllllllll [03:19pm] Rowdy where did ya go [03:20pm] sorry... phone call came in [03:20pm] oh you went away rowdy [03:20pm] lol [03:20pm] Maybe he's building a pond or something... :) [03:20pm] May I make a statement [03:20pm] oh! [03:20pm] what's that MrMaryLou? [03:20pm] or rant LOL [03:20pm] twice mml [03:20pm] Well its regards to sumitts [03:20pm] go for it [03:20pm] telllllllll [03:21pm] ohhh politics.. [03:21pm] where ??? politics i am gone with politics [03:21pm] oke who is sleeping now [03:21pm] no no MrMaryLou has something on sumitts for us. perhaps of great importance stuveltje [03:22pm] i always listen to MML [03:22pm] I am so sick of seeing submits where your expecting to get listed with shitty link backs whats up with the index299 crap not saying its you all but be warned the mirroring days are gonna be over soon [03:22pm] heeeeeeeeemmmmmm dont know nothing about it because i dont use that, but i can understand [03:22pm] oh thank gawd - i was worried you were gonna spank me again :\ [03:22pm] some link lists are gonna ask for index soon tired of seeing crap link enter45 and shit [03:22pm] yes, mirroring has been abused unfortunatly [03:22pm] lol [03:23pm] But how do you submit to more then 6 link lists with our mirroring? [03:23pm] it's ok security_man.. we'll let him do it after... [03:23pm] hehehehe [03:23pm] cant get enough traffic with just 6 [03:23pm] i dont know about that shelmal [03:23pm] I use upto 9 links per page and you can use index, enter, warning [03:23pm] these does noting for your or the link list be creative use folders [03:23pm] i got sites not sumitted to Ll but get good traffic from ses [03:23pm] thats getting old Ramster [03:23pm] well... i name mine index.html index.htm index.shtml index.phtml and so on.. and alot of those get listed in the SE's [03:23pm] or folders of course!! [03:24pm] ramster that one i use [03:24pm] warning, enetre [03:24pm] is the issue more the names of the mirrorpages or is it the other reciprocals on the mirror pages? [03:24pm] well enter.lol [03:24pm] i use indexx, indexxx, enter entre ect [03:25pm] i got myself 10 mirrors and more i dont do, [03:25pm] all like enter, enters entrance [03:25pm] for us newbies better explanation of mirror pages please [03:25pm] security_ma.. both and the fact that the "same site" gets to much exposure therefore making the recips even more less useful :( [03:25pm] when someone mirrors and half of the links are toplists and their own recips that could be a little abusive too [03:25pm] just a word to the wise thats all :) not saying its gonna happen but the SE's are getting tougher and ranking is becoming more and more important [03:25pm] mirror pages are just copy pages of your index page for more recip buttons and so forth [03:26pm] thanks [03:26pm] well most of the time my mirors getting better ses then the index [03:26pm] so are you saying that submit to just a few places? [03:26pm] yes.. me too stuveltje...my mirrors do better... [03:26pm] No use folders how hard its that really easy [03:26pm] but if you mirror the whole site into different folders the se will hit you for duplicate content - so whats the solution? [03:26pm] unique sites [03:26pm] well i havent got trouble to get listed with the way i do now [03:27pm] more building effort is what I think it will eventually require... less automation and more "hands on": type things [03:27pm] just be creative and change the metas. A simple cut and paste would take 1 minute only before uploading in a new folder [03:27pm] but i do get worried because i get all my mirrors in the ses .yikes [03:27pm] I am just saying the abuse level is getting higher and its like anything you suffer because of the assholes [03:27pm] but if you do different folders....then you have to different key words, title's etc.. correct? [03:27pm] put each mirror in a new folder and use index for each of them? [03:27pm] i hate the abusers [03:27pm] Bobbiekey, you should if you're smart. hehe [03:28pm] think one way or an other we will be all abusers [03:28pm] shelmal, I think mirrors are fine when you mirror a couple of pages. It's the abusers doing 15+ pages [03:28pm] ahh i do 5 [03:29pm] i do sometimes 2 or 5 or 10 not more [03:29pm] okay - i need some clarification why is a mirror page so awful (i know this might seem obvious but i cant wrap my head around it) [03:29pm] i do 7 [03:29pm] Do you know that I have deleted over 150 dead link sites and tgps from the links machine in the last two days now whats that saying ? [03:29pm] that bites [03:29pm] ummmm they cant pay there bandtwide bill [03:29pm] yeah mrmary lou..while finding new tgps it was amazing how many are dead on all the lists [03:30pm] Traffic is getting harder and harder to get [03:30pm] i ask that last time i found alot of LL dead and i dont know why [03:30pm] MrMaryLou hopefully I will be adding a tgp next week to it [03:30pm] security_man.. the same as anything really.. too much of any one thing dilutes the possible profit generated for the masses from that product [03:30pm] profit being traffic or sales [03:31pm] so having a free site with 8 or ten mirrored index pages is diluting what for who? [03:31pm] TGP's are not evening bothering taking submits anymore only parnters and paid things are getting tough now with the flood gates getting ready to open with sponsor made free sites its time to start thinking [03:31pm] i dont mind when LL say index i have some LL submit it ther they say index, i put them on mirro and they still accept me [03:32pm] heee hentaibee [03:32pm] blatant self ad from me :-) [03:32pm] if you ever need a special birthday present, why not give one of your beloved relatives ( perhaps somebody who likes art/toons/anime) an anime head portrait made after the image of their own photograph. As a Hentaibee ICQ-list client you get 5 dollar off when you order a portrait from a photograph. (regular cost $50) [03:32pm] theres a good article in the ynot news letter about that this week [03:32pm] howdy folks [03:32pm] your sales if the different lists you use trade traffic, the value of the recip traffic as they've already seen it and so forth... same thing as using one set of 20 pics for a 1000 sites instead of 20 pics for 5 sites..... [03:32pm] hwody hentaibee [03:32pm] hi Hentaibee [03:32pm] 45649137 icq :-) [03:33pm] hentaibee stop that [03:33pm] lol [03:33pm] i cant follow the chat.lol [03:33pm] Hentaibee, I'd appreciate it if you refrained from it during a scheduled chat [03:33pm] sorry :-) [03:33pm] * Bobbiekey` bites a giggle.. [03:33pm] okok. [03:33pm] LOL saved by the bell [03:33pm] that's a good lil Hentaibee [03:33pm] hehehehe [03:33pm] had my paste software on autpopilot :-( [03:33pm] So you spam the room all the time [03:34pm] hahaha get him MMl [03:34pm] ut oh [03:34pm] lol [03:34pm] it's ok HB [03:34pm] oke talk [03:34pm] well [03:34pm] It's also a nice way to get more people in my ICQ... [03:34pm] lol [03:34pm] lol [03:34pm] sorry Rowdy to be ranting [03:34pm] so it's newbie chat... [03:35pm] any questions ? [03:35pm] ok.. back to the topic for a few minutes...... [03:35pm] Topic - Who Gives a fuck? [03:35pm] not really [03:35pm] so i dont mind if LL ask for index they will get it, i get my sites in other way to get traffic [03:35pm] I do allot [03:35pm] yeah - we know ANS does but what else [03:35pm] are folks using the tools available to improve traffic/sales/knowledge? [03:35pm] off course. [03:36pm] I know a shitload of folks who do the courses at betabrigade :-0 [03:36pm] mmm i dont, but i am more busy with traffic then buidling sites [03:36pm] things such as Action Items/projects - News and more - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/ [03:36pm] i'm just a scatter brained mess... and my sales suck a stinky old baboon's ass Rowdy.. [03:36pm] Newbie Zone - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/ [03:36pm] Projects - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/projects.phtml [03:36pm] Tips/Tricks/Templates - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/tips.phtml [03:36pm] Tutorials/Contributed Links - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/resources.phtml [03:36pm] i hang there every ay rowdy [03:36pm] Learning Zone - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learningzone/ [03:36pm] Containing some great articles and tutorials on a wide variety of different subjects all related to the industry including HTML Basics, Business & Marketing, Technical Issues & Ideas and more. [03:37pm] Business Zone - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/businesszone/ [03:37pm] More tutorials/articles related to such things as Legal Issues, Marketing and Advertising, Networking and more. [03:37pm] yp great stuff [03:37pm] ok. when writing text links, try to visualize how you would feel if you really loved that niche. [03:37pm] AVS Zone - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/avszone/ [03:37pm] More tutorials/articles related to AVS [03:37pm] i use that stuff all the time - my bookmarks are almost totally empty in my browser except for those pages cuz its all there that i need [03:37pm] Traffic Zone - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/trafficzone/ [03:37pm] More tutorials/articles related to TGP & TGP2 Site Tutorials, Link List Site Tutorials and General Traffic Topics. [03:37pm] Links Machine - http://www.thelinksmachine.com/ [03:37pm] hey i didnt know about the tempaltes.those are great [03:37pm] he rowdy you having fun.lol [03:37pm] Sponsor Machine - http://www.thesponsormachine.com/ [03:37pm] Multiple Scheduled Chats - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/chatroom/ [03:38pm] Well... I tried something new.. tried to pull the surfers in with the name and some humor Vagina!!! Vagina!!! and I am hoping for good things... [03:38pm] rowdy I read it all ,have to find time to get hands dirty [03:38pm] i know that all, i life there [03:38pm] That little list took about 15 minutes to compile and I didn't even touch the surface [03:38pm] I hear folks all the time saying they want more... but it sems so much isn't used as it is..... [03:38pm] So instead of writing e.g. click here for hot trannies, try stuff like: See how our HQ shemales SUCK and FUCK their brains out in Hardcore tranny sex scenes. Curious? Click here to chekc out the tour ! [03:38pm] that's true Rowdy [03:39pm] did I get my point across ? [03:39pm] lol [03:39pm] uch [03:39pm] lol there are many times that someone asks a question on the board and all i have to do is point them to the right page [03:39pm] yes and you dont [03:39pm] :evil:" [03:40pm] just teasing ya [03:40pm] its all been put in the resources of ans - all i do is direct traffic LOL [03:40pm] Writing bad text links was my worst newbie mistake :-) [03:40pm] i don't write bad text links.. [03:40pm] stuveltje, what do you mean "busy with traffic" [03:40pm] no no [03:40pm] shelmal, the templates are a good deal... a basic site that can be modified repeatedly :) [03:40pm] i use ans every day [03:40pm] and another hint: double check all your sponsor codes... [03:40pm] There is so much help here at ans no one has this no one [03:40pm] yeah thats my weaknes..building sites..i suck..lol [03:40pm] you want to be sure that you send the surfers to the page your' talking about, and not to the wrong niche [03:40pm] well where i get mad from lately the dialers [03:41pm] im REALLY good at writing great text links though [03:41pm] considered starting a biz writing text links for str8 webmasters wanting to do gay sites [03:41pm] gg, use them hll i use them too i got blocked from my own LL because i use interbational traffic dialer [03:41pm] nice :-) [03:41pm] shelmal, then you're 80% good at building sites... pretty doesn't count near as much as effective does [03:41pm] stuveltje thats thats a trend now every one is going totry to get that off shore stuff going [03:41pm] brb [03:41pm] that would be of intrest to me shelmal [03:41pm] When people ask me questions Rowdy I point them to ans [03:41pm] offshoreclicks got one of the best dialer programs [03:42pm] dunno if i would pay for it - but i would love to read an article on the topic LOL [03:42pm] and they don't use tax forms :-P [03:42pm] i know MML but adultrevenue got me blocked this evening with a fucking dialer when i was checking there page how nice [03:42pm] i hate the offshorepopup hell though [03:42pm] lol id have to give it for free that way..not sure anyone would pay im afraid [03:43pm] stuveltje, you gotta change your prefferred browser language to uk or us, not NL :-) [03:43pm] i got ans in my acceot email from my LL gonna put bratts amateur link in to give her more traffic [03:43pm] cant [03:43pm] off shorepopup hell pays me well :-) [03:43pm] lol [03:43pm] works GREAT with international traffic. [03:43pm] woohooo [03:43pm] I'm trying to fit somethng like that in with some of my sites now [03:43pm] is that wher are foriegn surfer clicks a ;link and they get redirected? [03:43pm] nice. [03:43pm] nice if you wanna review you submitted links and get on a fuccking dialer [03:43pm] Rowdy take a peek at these numbers http://www.glreach.com/globstats/index.php3 [03:44pm] no. they get redirected as soon as the enter or leave the site [03:44pm] . [03:44pm] thats one nice thing about cable - no dialers can touch me LOL [03:44pm] not even a single click is needed [03:44pm] * Ramster working on dialer installs tomorrow [03:44pm] still dont understand why, because i am duct hell i gotcredit cards and can buy [03:44pm] he i am on cable but dialers can touch you [03:44pm] well security man, secret dialers can still mess up your settings m though :-0 ( only aggressive ones) [03:44pm] the word is no cc for porn [03:45pm] yeah. [03:45pm] yeah - they try but it never works LOL [03:45pm] but wont you get banned or rejected on the ll's and tgps with that? [03:45pm] well. the trick is you gotta have your OWN TRaffic pump [03:45pm] if they do alot i will [03:45pm] ahh i see [03:45pm] you have to use them on the exit outs in yout traps and FPAs [03:46pm] your [03:46pm] i dont do that at the momnent..though really should [03:46pm] if you make your own big site, and get like 30.000 or more uniques a day... [03:46pm] no ownder im so broke..lol [03:46pm] does cecash automatically redirect nonamerican traffic rowdy? [03:46pm] i am using them but i dont know why because dutch have cc [03:46pm] yes i get on the dialers from ceccash also sucks [03:46pm] Ok Rowdy... I give a fuck about ANS... even added the ANS LL to the Beav today :) and of course it's on my webmaster submit pages [03:46pm] many people do not really use their cc, out of privacy/hacking fears. [03:47pm] back .. sorry bout that [03:47pm] i got only cc buyers [03:47pm] great Bobbiekey [03:47pm] lol - i was wondering how i kept making money with dialers through them LOL [03:47pm] Thanks Bobbiekey [03:47pm] heehee [03:47pm] You're welcome :) [03:47pm] CECash redirect the foreign traffic to a dialer all the time [03:47pm] yes security_man although on certain programs you can disable that feature [03:47pm] i got ans every where [03:47pm] but i'm not nice! [03:47pm] ok? :) [03:47pm] i owe it to ans [03:48pm] Bobbiekey, not nice? ... [03:48pm] hell - i owe everything to ans - including most of my content and two trips to internext LOL [03:48pm] hehe. [03:48pm] how could that be ? [03:48pm] lol [03:48pm] yes thats nice rowdy bt at ars i cant and it pisses me off [03:48pm] he kisses ass hentaibee [03:49pm] what am I looking at MrMaryLou? [03:49pm] oh I see :_) [03:49pm] yeah...nice people get squished like bugs Rowdy... sooooo if i tell people that i'm not.. hmmm maybe one person would believe me! [03:49pm] where are you looking at rwdy? [03:49pm] and more specifically i owe most of my loyalty to ans to rowdy - theres a reason the newbie board is always rockin :) [03:49pm] Rowdy is there a glossary of terms on the site for newbies like me?? [03:49pm] ANS is as good as it is because of the folks that show up and participate [03:49pm]