[14:59] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise! - Newbie Chat -Today is Wednesday -May 14th 2003 ~*\!/*~-- Adult Webmasters Only!!! "' [14:59] Hi Rowdy, MrMaryLou [14:59] sup folks [14:59] And Bratt and EclectiXXX :) [14:59] hey people [14:59] hiya Rowdy and MrMaryLou [15:00] and Kre8t0r [15:00] rowdy!! mrm!!!! [15:00] HI Lassiter!!!! [15:00] lassiter!! [15:00] holy smoke .. hi al [15:00] Hello all [15:00] l [15:00] and Lassiter Bratt security_man Kre8t0r [15:00] Hiya security_man! [15:00] Hi all [15:00] and everyone else [15:00] :) [15:00] Hi Bratt, Kre8t0r, Lassiter, security_man and all :) [15:00] rut roe mousekateer roolcall [15:00] how goes it EclectiXXX? [15:00] roll even [15:00] glad you could make it jel :) [15:00] lol [15:00] well Rowdy! [15:00] very well! [15:00] hows everyone [15:00] thanks security man :D [15:01] here to look and learn... [15:01] hey blue - got your icq - thats fan fucking tastic!! [15:01] yea . . . it will be coolio [15:01] thats what we are all here for jel :)) [15:02] good to have ya join us Jel_Boy [15:02] good stuff [15:02] cheers rowdy [15:02] I'm going to wait a few to begin the "ofical topic" so chat away until then at will :) [15:02] so, general consensus is keep content to a minimum huh? [15:02] ok [15:02] new boy jumps in lol [15:03] Hey was I wrong or did DMOZ RESCIND those new assanine rules? [15:03] Jel_Boy.. I prefer to use as little as needed :) which in some cases... is none :) [15:03] Hya alll [15:03] hi stuveltje [15:03] btw the problem with the thumbs is prolly that you specified both width and height - try just one side specified with constrain proportions on [15:03] hy rowdy [15:03] ok will give that a go [15:03] oooh i hope so eclectixxx [15:03] hee electixxx, sec_man, jell boy [15:03] howdy stuveltje :updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown::updown: [15:03] stuveltje.. how goes that diet? :) [15:04] Hiya stuveltje :) [15:04] i am not so jumpy hell my feet hurts kisssss them [15:04] :updown: and all around [15:04] heeeeee lassiter [15:04] MMl [15:04] * security_man starts sucking stuvltjes toes [15:04] Rowdy diet goes well, but the walk a thon i hate it [15:04] lolololol sec_man [15:04] oh you said just kiss - sorry >:) [15:04] toes [15:05] lol stuveltje ... I've atually lost about ten pounds but not sure if it's the diet or all that damn outside work with warm weather...lol [15:05] wait I am I in the wrong chat [15:05] btw i want some steak nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [15:05] Give 'em an inch and they take a mile :) [15:05] lol mrm [15:05] its the work rowdy .lol. that does it [15:05] ok security, much better, thanks [15:05] np manno :) [15:05] great 10 pounds rowdy [15:05] distorted thumbs is one of my pet peves :)) [15:06] we walked ow for 2 hours and i am sore feet [15:06] so i am happy to fix any that i can LOL [15:06] any others? apart from WAY too much content? [15:06] MrMaryLou... a serious webmaster issue..... "computer ass" hahahahaha [15:06] no income ROFL! [15:06] lol rowdy [15:06] LOL [15:06] lol [15:07] Aint that the truth?That's the most pressing problem anyone can have IMO [15:07] Jel_Boy... you need more text around sponsor links to talk the surfer into it... think of yourself as a salesman first and making money gets much easier :) [15:07] No income, I mean, not computer ass ;) [15:07] i dunno about easier LOL maybe less difficult :)) [15:07] ok off to make a quick page up. How long you here for? [15:07] hell both lass :) [15:07] about an hour [15:07] k back in a bit.... [15:07] oke what are we talking about [15:08] pass the beer and chips [15:08] sucking toes >:) [15:08] oh wait - nevermind [15:08] link trading? [15:08] yuk i dont like sucking toes.hahahaha [15:08] security_man: Money means "Computer ass" doesnt bother me nearly as much LOL [15:08] Topic today : Trades [15:08] good point ;) [15:08] oke [15:09] OH.. we all know how to do the basic link trade thing... submit to linklists and so forth but what else is there? [15:09] oke you all tell and i will watch, i have my feet in a bucket with hot water [15:09] Good old fashioned link trades inbetween "networking buddies" is something that used to be done a lot and has faded considerably over the years [15:09] trade submit pages, trade index page [15:09] what? are you trying to drown me stuvletje? [15:09] Top list playing some creative tgp games [15:09] hahahah sec_man stop i am eating, have to clean my screen again [15:10] lol eeeeeewwwwww [15:10] there are many options that can be done... for instance... a linkspage off of your standard free site [15:10] oh i trade with my networking buddy [15:10] private link trades as well as toplist trades can do well on these if implemented correctly [15:10] eplain dont understand rowdy [15:11] oh godd chineze again need light [15:11] thats one thing i have always wanted to start on the board some kind of structured link trades between everyone on the board [15:11] stuveltje, I mean basically a links page off of your free site to a specific linkspage of yours with certain trades ... a traffic hubpage more or less but for trades instead of sales :) [15:11] i trade with everyone, Sec_man put my links on submitool will ya [15:11] Rowdy: I use my hubs for exit traffic a lot - are link trades useful there, or should hubs be more closely reserved for my own sites/traffic? [15:12] lol - i got it this time stuv, i have no excuses :) [15:12] ohhhhhhh [15:12] oke sec-Man updown [15:12] Lassiter, they can work well that way.. I have certain hubs that recieve toplist traffic from such structures :) [15:13] i am still not in toplist need to focus moe on that i dont understand a toplist [15:13] the thing is that if you dont have some kind of central site that lists all your free sites - its difficult to trade individual free site links with folks [15:13] Ah - so maybe make a custom hub specifically for certain niche traffic, and trade appropraite links there? [15:13] correct Lassiter :) [15:13] oh mmmmmm i have linktradeson my hub [15:13] cool :) [15:13] Three words about traffic Keep Covet and grow [15:13] i need to ask an off topic question [15:13] that should be the traffic boards creedo >:) [15:14] haa i got now niche specify buttons for linkbacks on my new LL [15:14] anyone loose their paypal account due to the new adult thing yet? [15:14] as in getting paid by sponsors [15:14] security_man... not at all... you can still have that structure link that you already have, just move the link to it to the linkspage of the free site in it's place and take the filter through... or build a few batches of free sites dedicated to the trade structure instead of the present central structure [15:14] no cre, i have emailed ars for it, they say no problem they still pay me, wont effect them they say [15:14] hi Orbitalz [15:14] Hi Orbitalz [15:14] hey all [15:14] as in being able to accept payment [15:14] weird [15:14] For content ? [15:15] yes [15:15] why kre [15:15] last I heard they are not allowing it [15:15] what do you mean rowdy? [15:15] they gave a 90 day grace period [15:15] nop i dont know i got no email from paypal, and have no problem most of my sponsors pay me by paypal [15:15] MML: The sign of a company that makes too much money already, I suspect ;) [15:15] sorry not able to wrap head around whatcha said LOL [15:15] ty stuveltje [15:15] yeah I think so k [15:16] its in their terms som place [15:16] yup [15:16] My point is, way to many folks send every hit they can to a sponsor without consideration if it will pay them to do so... that traffic that isn'e worth anything in one niche might be in another. Instead of letting the sponsor filter all this traffic, you can do some link trades and get exchange thraffic that will buy from you. This way both you and the sponsor continue to make money :) [15:16] fuck ok thanx guys [15:16] howdy teddy [15:16] sorry Rowdy [15:16] i have specially emailed adultrevenueservice about it, they say dont effect them so still payment every week [15:16] howdy security [15:16] no prob Kre8t0r :) [15:17] : } [15:17] what's todays topic [15:17] how's it going Rowdy [15:18] bah, fuck freepassbucks, Imma start promoting cemags again [15:18] link trades [15:18] As Rowdy says Traffic is not King Knowlege is [15:18] security_man... a tracking sheet comes in real handy for things like what type of exit traffic filter you are using on a certain batch of sites, one batch for traffic, one for sign up type programs and one for free type programs... all the link pages on these batches would be specific but yet still have one main link at the bottom for a central hub... many ways to do it and alter it to personal taste [15:18] Traffic = the serfs that the King must order around :) [15:19] hi teddy... trades is the topic today [15:19] AAAAH okay - i forget about my tracking sheets cuz i dont expect surfers to see it LOL [15:19] ohh sheets again, dont have them no good for me, lett me search for my things.lol [15:20] trade links...... what's a cj link [15:20] stuveltje... you need to at least start ones for what you are doing now or the organizational "monkey on your back" will just get worse :) [15:20] To terms that cross in the mix as well Traffic Trade and Link Trade are too different things some get them confused [15:20] i know rowdy , weeeeeeeeehhhhhh i know, but i dont know what to do first anymore, i want it all at the same time [15:20] teddy... cj link.. circle jerk ... usually "forced" traffic of very little value other than number manipulation [15:20] MrMaryLou - could you explain that for us? [15:21] good point MrMaryLou.. continue please :) [15:21] you mean those banners that you have to click, doesn't want to go away type banners [15:21] Traffic Trade is when you say ok joe I am gonna send you 500 today and you send me back 500 I so try to stay away from those becuse some one ends up normaly getting pissed [15:21] ah ok [15:21] So traffic trade is stictly a numbers criterion? [15:22] hya expo [15:22] hey [15:22] okay - so lets say i have a bunch of bdsm sites that i want to trade links with other folks that have bdsm sites - should i just start a thread asking for it?is there some central spot we can set up on the board to contenue getting new sites on the pages? [15:22] :D [15:22] A link trade is just what it is some mix the terms and dont understand so when your trading make sure you tell the other person what your intentions are [15:22] howdy xman :) [15:22] hey security! [15:22] :D [15:22] oh hya x-man [15:22] lol [15:22] :) [15:22] grin [15:23] security_man.. you can start your own thread... but again.. different ways to base trades... same type traffic... different type traffic... or main niche to sub niche type trades :) (Confused yet? LOL) [15:23] can anyone tell me if anyone has won the Ferrari on CeVault [15:23] anybody wanna trade parmenant links with my tgp? [15:23] 5K..;) [15:23] i am always confused, have to do with my birth [15:23] Unless you know what u can send off a link with out forcing a click [15:23] :rasp: [15:23] teddy - I did [15:23] but i sold it [15:24] for $50K [15:24] hahahahhaha [15:24] xman,.... are you serious:) [15:24] all i won is a dildo [15:24] hehehe - exactly if there was some way to streamline this more effectively i think i would love to do it but with just individual quaries to specific people itll take too much time :\ [15:24] a used ine! [15:24] a used one! [15:24] ha ha x-man [15:24] :) [15:24] =| [15:24] heee spookyx [15:24] hi stuveltje [15:24] Would you fly on an airline called "Al Muhammad airline" [15:24] ? [15:25] grin [15:25] oh no [15:25] heeeee twinkley [15:25] x-man if I was suicidal [15:25] lol [15:25] is this the same xman from all the boards?? [15:25] hey twinkley is awake! [15:25] yesssssssss [15:25] Traffic Trades a used more in the TGP as in forced hits from CJ's [15:25] X-Man.. we are in the middle of a scheduled chat [15:25] ha ha [15:25] the same one that gets banned everywhere? [15:25] twinkley- yap..same ass [15:25] oh [15:25] hi twinkley [15:25] Rowdy - really? i didn't know that [15:25] :) [15:25] sorry [15:25] please continue [15:25] lol [15:25] :) [15:26] There are a few link lists that use it as well but Trading traffic is a game all in its own [15:26] what's everybody's background here,I just picked up a book on HTML and love being self employe [15:26] twinkley - not everywhere...dont go overboard [15:26] use waht mrm? [15:26] what, rather [15:26] security_man, once you get a system set up that works for you on private trades and keep track of it.. it's easy... as long as it's a link trade and not a traffic trade as the traffic trades must be montiored [15:26] monitored that is [15:27] no traffic trade for me, dont hear good things about it [15:27] OK security, modified a page, shall I post it back on the board for later comments? [15:27] all writing chineze lol [15:27] prolly best jel [15:27] np [15:27] stuveltje, I prefer link trades myself.. less presssure and easier to keep folks "honest" :) [15:27] yes i like linktrades [15:27] I concur [15:28] They sure are Rowdy [15:28] plus lots less maintenece too [15:28] yep [15:28] are we talking about tgp or link lists? [15:28] I dont have any traffic trades at all do better the old fashion way [15:28] topic is "trades" [15:28] no more person to person individual links [15:29] whats person to person indivikjhdksjhd links [15:29] o..cool...personaly i dont use traffic trade script...too many cheater [15:29] MrMaryLou, what is the old fashioned way? [15:29] cheaters* [15:29] WOW - now that was impressive stuveltje [15:29] LOL [15:29] Good old link trades [15:29] hahahaha i am tired [15:29] MrMaryLou... I've had a few bad traffic trades deals myself... but a link trade is rather hard to go bad unless the site gets pulled or a link disappears [15:29] MrMaryLou - yap..the best way [15:29] from one webmaster to another instead of linklist type trades stuv [15:29] Yep :) [15:29] ohhhhhhhhhh [15:30] offtopic: anyone going to YP2003? [15:30] hya blue_spade [15:30] yp2003? [15:30] cheaters? on td? [15:30] i do link trades but not traffic trades:) [15:30] yep me o [15:30] to [15:30] heya stuverltje [15:30] lol [15:31] I still have free sites that have link pages with other folks free sites from three years ago active... I check them occasionally but it benefits all from the SE point as well since you then have multiple links to your sites all f4rom different IP class batches and so forth :) [15:31] so does anybody wanna trade links with my tgp? [15:31] Link trades may take you longer to build your base but its going to be a soild one that dont depend on a promise [15:31] i will x-man [15:31] private [15:31] dont do tgp myself x sorry :( [15:31] :) make 1 [15:31] :D [15:31] lol [15:31] post it on the traffic board Xman [15:32] what board are you talking about? [15:32] lol [15:32] :) [15:32] http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/message-board/traffic/ [15:33] wait [15:33] im on the phone [15:33] =: [15:33] nice.lol. [15:33] talk [15:33] crap.. [15:33] bitch ass [15:33] who [15:33] travel [15:33] agent [15:33] X-man this is a chat not a personal link trade session [15:33] lol..:) [15:33] ok done [15:34] lol [15:34] MrMaryLou - but why not benefit from it? :) [15:35] Now if you have a question realated on how to ask not asking here for trades [15:35] X-Man.. actually people were trying to benefit from the conversation of the scheduled chat [15:35] k [15:35] xman is like a plague [15:35] Now.. any questions about the idea of a free site linkspage for link trades? [15:35] Now let this be the last warning ok [15:36] have no idea what you are talking about :))heheheh [15:36] any ways of streemlining it rather than just person to person? [15:36] Remember, these pages need not be advertising free.... you can still attempt to make a buck but just keep in mind that if they aren't going to sell ywith your sponsor/s ship them off to someone else who can so they return traffic back as well [15:37] Keep Covet and grow its easy as that [15:37] basically what you guys want to do is have a page you can link with your freesites that link to a bunch of other traded sites correct? [15:38] security_man... you can always set up an "agreement" inbetween a batch of webmaster who all agree on the fact that the next 5 or whatever sites they build will have a link... this allows for the links to be added as sites are built... there's not a lot of traffic involved as fara as raw numbers usually but the quality can be high as well as the SE side benefits :) [15:38] it can be anything hosted galleries or sites even [15:38] Blue_Spade.. it can be done on a seperate page, a single site or whatever.... all trades can be different just as long as they benefit a person :) [15:38] well, there can be one moderated trade list . .. then call all the links with a ssi or js call [15:38] or both people I should say :) [15:39] sure - the se benefits are good enough to do it and ill bet even though the traffic isnt all that much the ratio will prolly be better [15:39] Link trade with others and your other domains [15:39] nop i dont understandrowdy i do understand the idea but not how to do it [15:39] do you have a hub stuveltje [15:39] stuveltje.. that's one o fmy points.. there is no "set way" it's whatever way you want to do it :) [15:40] yes i have MMl [15:40] its really the samething but your swaping links with other webmasters [15:40] right MrMaryLou.. same as a hub but for traffic or trades instead of sponsors :) [15:40] i have linktrades on my hub with other LL [15:40] well then your already doing it [15:40] right stuveltje.. so you already are doing this to a degeree :) [15:41] degree that is [15:41] oh nice i am doing something for awhile i didnt know what it was.lol [15:41] pinky swear rowdy LOL [15:41] lol [15:42] Please remember folks.. there's traffic Tuesdays on the Traffic Board :) [15:42] brb get some cola [15:42] (since we're talking about trades) :) [15:42] i think im gonna post a thread to the board to set up a five or ten site link trade with whoever wants to - see how it goes [15:42] The list gets longer every week [15:42] Would be a good newbie project there Rowdy... [15:43] count me in [15:43] Considering that already EclectiXXX :) [15:43] back [15:43] wb [15:43] It's funny I did onw of those about a year ago [15:43] ty [15:43] was just checking my stats and still getting se hits to the hub page for it [15:44] Can relate EclectiXXX :) [15:44] hi Diesel [15:44] to a search term for a partners site on that hub, pretty kewl... [15:44] but i would love to see some kind of ANS backed thing we can keep going and update as more sites are built - just dunno how to automate it [15:44] mmmm i still dont think i got it right, will ask on the board about it, the coin wont fall [15:44] and i am not blonde.lol [15:44] hwody diesel [15:45] Whuts UP all!? [15:45] r u sure stuv? do the cuffs and collar match? >:) [15:45] hya diesel [15:45] hahahahahah sec_man [15:45] security_man, there are ways to automate things like this but at the same time, some things work better without automation IMHO :) [15:45] hmmmm [15:45] That's really a whoole different discussion there though :) [15:45] lol true :) [15:45] I agree Rowdy nothing beats the tender touch [15:45] i am a brunette and smart, well most of the time, not now [15:45] the smart part [15:46] lol stuveltje [15:46] uh huh stuv - its what i thought - the blonde is starting to come out some isnt it LOL [15:46] oh life is hard.but i am laughing again [15:46] Rowdy I had some major trauma this morning so I feel so dirty for some reason [15:46] MrMaryLou? [15:46] hee never been blonde [15:46] :updown::updown: [15:46] oops the peers got jel_boy! [15:47] nevdulllllllllllllllll [15:47] hi NevDull [15:47] lololol [15:47] hi :) [15:47] MMl tell the dirty part, [15:47] I was reviewing a site and I know the webmaster shoots his own then when I went to the second page there was his wee wee LOL [15:47] hhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahha [15:48] lol [15:48] nice word wee wee.lol [15:48] i learning new words all the time [15:48] wheeew - for a sec i thought you were talkin bout me again mrm, but i stoped putting my cock on my sites ages ago - just didnt work as a signature >:) [15:48] I know the guy well to it made it so much worse [15:48] lolololo oke stop it now i keep on laughing [15:49] ok.. so no other questions presently? [15:49] Spare me please no more webmaster wee wee's [15:49] still dont know, [15:49] would you suggest trading index pages or links pages rowdy? [15:49] but i am brain dead now [15:49] Rowdy: do you have a TGP? [15:49] or main pages even? [15:49] Yeah, point that thing somewhere else, security_man :) [15:50] security_man.. both .. all dependant on the particualr circumstances :) [15:50] * security_man blushes and turns toward stuveltje "sorry lass - here ya go stuv" :) [15:50] Orbitalz.. developing one now actually....lol [15:50] heh, coo [15:50] yep i gave people main, webmaster and add succes link [15:50]