[03:00pm] ummm hello? [03:00pm] hi all [03:01pm] Hi everyone :) [03:01pm] hey ynotbob, huey, and rowdy [03:01pm] heya Rowdy [03:01pm] security_man! [03:01pm] YNOTBob! [03:01pm] Hey Rowdy [03:01pm] wrong room bob [03:01pm] and bobbiekey [03:01pm] hehehe [03:01pm] hey druid [03:01pm] hey huey [03:01pm] howdy druid [03:01pm] :) [03:01pm] hi twinkley [03:01pm] hey hey security_man [03:01pm] how's it going [03:01pm] YEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [03:02pm] Rowdy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:02pm] HI Bobbiekey`!!!! [03:02pm] oh knw you wont start without meeeeeeeeeeeeeee [03:02pm] hey Bratt::wave wave: [03:02pm] hi stuveltje [03:02pm] Hyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa allllllllllllllllllll:updown::updown: [03:02pm] hi ya stuveltjeeee [03:02pm] Hello all [03:02pm] and the main man - howdy mrmarylou :) [03:02pm] Hello MrMaryLou [03:03pm] hyaa bobbie, brattttt, rowdy and secu-man, MML [03:03pm] Hey Hey [03:03pm] ok... how long to wait until we begin..... :) [03:03pm] noww i am here so begin i have wait the longest [03:03pm] oooohh britney doesnt like you rowdy LOL [03:03pm] Friday >>> [03:03pm] f*ck britney spears tell CONOR [03:03pm] condor lol [03:04pm] the fight is on....lol [03:04pm] LOL [03:04pm] lol [03:04pm] stick that in your pipe and smoke it britney! [03:04pm] well i kick britneys ass, for this [03:04pm] hehehehehe:UPDOWN: [03:04pm] howdy lassiter :) [03:05pm] Hey Lassiter! [03:05pm] hi Lassiter [03:05pm] lASSITERRRRRRRRRRR :updown: long time no see [03:05pm] chat is good [03:05pm] Hi security_man, Bobbiekey, Rowdy, stuveltje (updown) :) [03:05pm] grin [03:06pm] welllll telllllllll [03:06pm] i am waiting so long [03:06pm] poor stuveltje - cant handle not knowing >:) [03:06pm] hehe... make her suffer =P [03:06pm] heee i am up for 13 hours now, me have to kno [03:06pm] i thought fetish1 was the sadist LOL [03:06pm] ololololololol [03:07pm] hey folks [03:07pm] lol :) [03:07pm] you have morning me have evening [03:07pm] Oh the updowns of kife [03:07pm] Hey Kre... [03:07pm] howdy kre :) [03:07pm] life theat is [03:07pm] lpl stuveltje ... what if I said the project was delayed? :) [03:07pm] heeeeeee kreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:updown: [03:07pm] huuuuuuuuuuu delayed ??? No wayyyyyy i would dieeeeeeeeee [03:07pm] that was a freuidean slip wasnt it mrm LOL [03:07pm] hey security_man you got company now on the bone head list LOL [03:08pm] hehehehe Updown::updown MML [03:08pm] lol [03:08pm] We'll begin here in just a few [03:08pm] ahh - another pick on security man chat has begun LOL [03:08pm] grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [03:08pm] Okie dokie Rowdy.. [03:08pm] yes we have a new member of not checking our work club [03:08pm] <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< very patient... unlike some people we know [03:08pm] and they are in the room too [03:08pm] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points to stuveltjeeeeeeeeeeeeee [03:08pm] whatttttttttt [03:08pm] fair warning... I had nice organized noted for today and did the old don't save often enpough blunder and lost it all so forgive me if this is a bit clustered today...lol [03:08pm] lol [03:08pm] ooooohhh - thank gawd im not the only one any more >:) [03:09pm] whattttttt points to meeeeeeeee [03:09pm] what did i dooooooo [03:09pm] or what diddo not?????? [03:09pm] That's ok Rowdy. We forgive ya... [03:09pm] security_man its a long list LOL but you made it a few times lol [03:09pm] it wasnt me, i swear - it was boodrow!! (thats what partners are for - to blame shit on LOL) [03:09pm] heres a hint to our newest member spookyx ooops [03:10pm] come one talk CONDOR dont torture meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :updown: [03:10pm] ohhh spookyx . hyaaaaaaaaa [03:10pm] ok folks.. it's time to add to our Project list (located here http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/projects.phtml ) [03:10pm] m peer is busy again lol wb [03:10pm] well, he is a fellow texan >:) [03:11pm] haaaaa bugger i cant get on th url weeeeeeehhhhhhhh [03:11pm] Today I'd like to launch http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project10.phtml project #10 Utilizing FPA's [03:11pm] Oooooooooooooooooooooo [03:11pm] i am on i am on [03:12pm] This project is going to be based a lot on examples, the chats and on the board posts (please keep anything about this under the right thread) [03:12pm] Ok Rowdy... [03:12pm] ahummmm why i dont use fpa on my free sites because most LL dont like them [03:12pm] Participation is a must as together, we can come up with many different ways to use FPA's (full page ads) [03:12pm] sure they do stuveltje - you just arent thinking out of the box enough :) [03:13pm] stuveltje.. plenty of linklists allow them :) It's all how you use them really [03:13pm] sure you can stuveltjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! from the index page...:)) that's what i do and don't get declined [03:13pm] where is that smilie with that tongue out [03:13pm] every one of my sites has fpas on them - even the ones i submit to greenguy and richard and tommy [03:13pm] :p [03:13pm] lol [03:13pm] I think I am gonna have to come up with an award called boner of the week and issue it at think tank LOL [03:13pm] i dont ubmit to tommy i use my own made fpa, well its the same [03:13pm] I like FPA's inbetween my pages and my "links page" as well as again inbetween my linkspage and hub pages :) [03:13pm] I use fpa off of text links and they rotate http://www.chubbylinks.com/adult-links/lover/lover.php [03:13pm] =P [03:13pm] oh gawd - i dont have enough room on my wall for that each week mrm LOL [03:13pm] can I see an example of one [03:14pm] just a plain old fpa, huey? [03:14pm] stuveltje: The basic idea is you can't have any of the pages of your free site containing an FPA, but exits *off* off the free sites pages can have 'em :) [03:14pm] yes just saw one thanks [03:14pm] huey.. of a FPA? [03:14pm] well last time i made a fpa on my free sites in a diffrent way [03:14pm] I am starting to use fpa instead of sending them to a sponor off the link [03:15pm] fpa just saw it [03:15pm] now remember folks... a FPA does not have to be just for one site either... take CE matrix ads for example - http://www.uncensoredfreexxx.com/amateur/freeamateur.html [03:15pm] yes MMl i leanred last time on the board.lol. but i am very carefull with things i have learned my lesson a year ago [03:15pm] thats something i have been doing for a year or two now and i love it mrm [03:15pm] this allows you add a large add to your site [03:16pm] still some LL dont like it [03:16pm] with making your pages too spammy just a simple text link [03:16pm] if its after the content stuveltje? [03:16pm] yes i put a link to it [03:16pm] ive never had a problem with it stuveltje [03:16pm] stuveltje.. then have your good old hub site link lead to a fpa or just have all links off of your hub go to an fpa before somewhere else :) [03:16pm] i am hat fr that from the 92 LL they all accept me so i just try to not upset them [03:16pm] wb hexa [03:17pm] Question: Why do most sponsors split their FPA's into slices?Just to discourage someone from stealing the graphic and altering it? [03:17pm] Lassiter..abit faster load time [03:17pm] not really - loading time is the reason [03:17pm] Rowdy: Ya, I guess that makes sense [03:17pm] More of a pain to put 'em together though :) [03:17pm] I am liking the new fpadds coming out and not using them as the norm [03:18pm] i like to make my own fpas [03:18pm] I try to make them part of the sites [03:18pm] or theme that is [03:18pm] how do you mean mrm? [03:18pm] now... something else to consider for those of you that are on a lmited space plan... freehost (that allow it) are a great place for fpa's as well. You can submit them to the SE's and use them also as last resort place to send your traffic to :) [03:18pm] jezz hexa is having all kinds of trouble [03:19pm] Use more text on your sites and send them to Full page adds off the text [03:19pm] mmmmm i dont use my free host , got enough gigs toburn at my paid host [03:19pm] stuveltje.. have you "combined ads" before? [03:19pm] explain??? [03:20pm] most of the time i change the fpa from a host [03:20pm] with permission [03:20pm] ok.. CE offers flash ads..... this following page has both an fpa as well as a flsh ad on it (there wil be one pop up but just close it quick on exit) [03:20pm] fuck from a sponsor i mean [03:20pm] http://www.xxxpasswordplaces.com/ [03:20pm] i never have been able to get the ce cash flash ads to work :( [03:20pm] security_man.. then you're doing it wrong....lol [03:21pm] the other file given to you needs to be in the same directory as the flash ad [03:21pm] nice i get on a dialer /lol [03:21pm] lol kinda what i figured [03:21pm] Broken on my Mozilla browser Rowdy [03:21pm] shit stuveltje..... I forgot that link wasn't dialer disabled [03:21pm] cecash i cant sell that, i ty but wont work [03:21pm] rowdy no problem.lol [03:22pm] well... the sponsor isn't hat I was showing here....lol... just that you can "combine" different things sometime to make more unique fpa's [03:22pm] well instead of a full page add, i use half page and some other links [03:23pm] with the topic of th site [03:24pm] here is an example of the fpa i send my sponsor ads to - Beware there are some popups >:) http://www.tatooteen.com/group/orgy/sponsor1/fpa.shtm [03:24pm] i hateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee pop upsssssssssssssss [03:24pm] What other uses are there for fpa's.... good for links off tgp pages as then you have one FPA page to change if something happens with the sponsor instead of hundreds of pages [03:24pm] i warned ya LOL [03:25pm] come on folks.. list some uses :) [03:25pm] MMM boner of the year LOL [03:25pm] oh!...that was a question.. [03:25pm] hahahahaha hit him MML [03:25pm] I will be grabbing some highlights from the chat today for the board thread about the project :) [03:25pm] security man where is the link before the FPA? [03:25pm] from a free site? [03:26pm] all of my sponsor ads on a free site point to an fpa like that [03:26pm] hmmm fpa's can be used to pass a surfer through before getting to your free sites :) [03:26pm] from a free site, avs site, se page... whatever... no limits :) [03:26pm] thanks [03:26pm] off of yourhub that is [03:26pm] they can be used as the index of your domain.. [03:26pm] Bobbiekey.. plenty of linklists allow them inbetween index page and main page as well on free sites [03:27pm] I normaly do this http://www.olergalslinks.com/enter.html [03:27pm] i dunno how many of you looked at that example, but the bookmark script on there bookmarks my referral code - not the fpa so i have my code in their bookmarks >:) [03:27pm] well i work maybe different i never use pop up for free sites and hardly use fpa's but i am willing to try the fpa's exept when LL dont want that, hell on my ses sites i kill people with shit, but the LL give me sales and good traffic [03:27pm] oh!.. for 404 pages :) [03:27pm] security_man: That's evil! I like it! :) [03:27pm] hehehe - a little brain storm i had once LOL [03:27pm] stuveltje.. nobody wants you to break any rules.. but if there are some lists you use that allow them, why turn down another advertising chance? :) [03:28pm] giggles... i didn't look at your pop up page security_man.. i don't want to freeze! [03:28pm] hi Cheekymarie [03:28pm] Marieeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:28pm] Morning :) [03:28pm] fuck MML i get a dns error [03:28pm] yawn!! [03:28pm] theres only three or four ROFL [03:28pm] Hya Mrie:updown: [03:28pm] ummmmmm.... the answer is still no :) [03:28pm] Morning Bobbie!!!! [03:28pm] another use for fpas would be to put them inbetween galleries on avs sites [03:28pm] Hiya Marie!!! [03:28pm] ::waves to the Cheeky one:: [03:29pm] hi stuveltje - hey lassiter long time no see [03:29pm] http://www.oldergalstgp.com/enter.html wrong one LOL [03:29pm] some good examples so far [03:29pm] sorry I'm late guys was really faster asleep [03:29pm] Marie, we're giving examples of how FPA's can be used [03:29pm] project link - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project10.phtml [03:29pm] sec man what are you talking abut when it is the wrong one [03:29pm] ahhh thank you Rowdy - hmmm fpas huh lol [03:30pm] I use them everywhere I can when I can :) [03:30pm] make your on pod and send the back to you site trough a fpa :) [03:30pm] what do you mean stuveltje? [03:30pm] yep.. actually I think Bobbiekey suggested it for a project a few weeks back... but a lot of folks aren't using them and the folks that know how (like yourself) have plenty of good tips and tricks :) [03:30pm] the link from MML didnt work it was the wrong one or where you tlking about something else [03:30pm] wrong place LOL [03:31pm] lol MML [03:31pm] here is an example of using an fpa on an avs http://www.tatooteen.com/lesbian/avs/page1.shtml - follow the flow of the site to see what i mean [03:31pm] are there pop ups? [03:31pm] nope [03:31pm] :) [03:31pm] :)) yeah! [03:31pm] lol [03:32pm] ok, like I said folks... I'm going to grab some of the information from today's chat and include it in the project thread, after the chat today, please post your thoughs under that thread and we'll get some great examples and ideas from it :) [03:32pm] rowdy do u think I could use a full page add with a live feed aplet in it [03:32pm] huey.. sure :) [03:33pm] The word countiue is being targeted by scritps also next page thats what a birdy told me the other day [03:33pm] I've seen fpa's with things like that [03:33pm] good to know mrm, thanx [03:33pm] ahummmm i use full page ad on my LL [03:33pm] cool tip MrMaryLou [03:33pm] cool that a good tool for us [03:34pm] and then you have alays a next page.lol [03:34pm] yeah but do you allow them stuveltje on submitted sites? [03:34pm] yes [03:34pm] with rules.lol. evil [03:34pm] thats cool - some have fpas on the list then not allow us to use them - that drives me nutsLOL [03:34pm] like you last link countinue if I was reviewing it I would kick it back because of the FPa [03:34pm] hmmm can I find out what the project is??? while I'm here [03:35pm] it's FPA"s Marie... [03:35pm] I would do somthing Like If Your Looking for more click here [03:35pm] keep in mind i dont submit the avs's like that to linklists - just the avs traffic goes to it [03:35pm] Another excellent reason for a FPA ... we all know sometimes sponsors get a bit carried away on pop ups and worse yet, some of the sponsors don't pay on pop ups ... so... by using a FPA you are keeping the surfer if they decide against the site and hit the back button instead of loosing that possible revenue chance on the next page [03:35pm] but there is another gallery past the fpa mrm :) [03:35pm] the surfer expects another gallery with the countinue [03:36pm] still is not after the content :( [03:36pm] again, i dont submit those to linklists - just the avs, and thats why LOL ;) [03:36pm] mmmmmm i showed a site on the newbie board last time it has i belive 6 fpas on it and everytime to a next gallery page you get a full page ad [03:36pm] Marie - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project10.phtml - utilizing FPA's :) [03:36pm] yes... most i LL's i see say fpa after content [03:36pm] I use fpas even on tgps between link and sponsor you can do what you want with them then cause they are your own :) [03:36pm] ahhh ok thanks Rowdy, thanks Bobbie :) [03:36pm] no prob :) [03:36pm] You're welcome [03:36pm] marie, thats an ideo i didnt use [03:37pm] And I am guess this is an avs site no need to get tricky avs surfers are way to savy they are going to either buy on not [03:37pm] Marie.. it's a chat/board type project ... bascially getting everyone's ideas and then folks that want can also post working examples :) (good SE food for the bots as well...lol) [03:38pm] I am doing a whole fleet of fpas just for SE LOL [03:38pm] dont talk to fast , me dutch i need to follow [03:38pm] i did that once http://girl-in-uniform.com/ again some popups LOL [03:38pm] yep so am I MML lol - we get lots of sales of fpas :) [03:38pm] lol stuveltje [03:38pm] hi Geo [03:38pm] fuck the pop ups sec man:evil: [03:39pm] ok - hmm now to wake up and digest this info :) [03:39pm] security_man u lied a pop up on the last page LOL [03:39pm] I've already got a fair number of FPAs being picked up by SEs, without trying too hard. :) [03:39pm] marie how long you are awake [03:39pm] Excellent Lassiter :) [03:39pm] MrMaryLou and Cheekymarie... I know you're input on the thread will be valuable... seen examples of both of your work :) [03:39pm] hmmm 10 minutes lol :) [03:39pm] i love em - and i make money on em :grin: [03:39pm] its 5:40am here :) [03:40pm] I just go in and make sure I ALT tag 'em and put some METAs into the code that comes from the sponsor. [03:40pm] Lassiter... good deal! .. that's the best kind of FPA to have... one in the SE's ... hahaha [03:40pm] do u use meta tag with fpa? [03:40pm] use metas on everything [03:40pm] Haven't done it with all of em 'cause I"m lazy but I think its a good policy [03:40pm] hahahahaha marie just n a half hour ago i helped dan with his site i will work on his site this evening and tomorrow to get rid of the bad links [03:40pm] yes huey [03:40pm] yes huey I do cause if google doesn't pic it up with the metas others will :) [03:40pm] A shucks Rowdy LOL [03:41pm] thanks Rowdy :) [03:41pm] wow Dan has changed his sleeping patterns lol [03:41pm] do u put information pertaining to where you are trying to point them or about the fpa? [03:41pm] ya know... if the project goes well enough.... I might even be tempted to make a page with everyone's link and put it into my "se pages" for a little spidering effect as well :) [03:41pm] not sure i follow you huey :( [03:41pm] yes he worked at evening with me, so sleep day and worked night , he does that along tim, i speak to him every evening [03:41pm] hi Pebbles [03:42pm] sell the sponsor and what they have to offer the surfer [03:42pm] hya pebbles [03:42pm] we work together every evening [03:43pm] throw in a few more links to other sponsors in the same category or niche [03:43pm] from there, you put more fpas to the sponsors - goodness the surfer could be lost in a sea of fpas if you did it right without him leaving your sites [03:43pm] until he bought something [03:44pm] on the bookmarking thing i was talking about earlier - an fpa is a great way to build urgancy to make the surfer join now instead of later http://www.101fetishes.com/pigsinblankets/sponsor/fpa.htm again a couple of popups LOL [03:44pm] howdy [03:44pm] hi Pebbles [03:44pm] howdy pebbles [03:44pm] howdydooo [03:44pm] do yo make anything without pop ups sec? [03:44pm] not that are intresting LOL [03:44pm] ohhhhhhh [03:44pm] thank you:) [03:44pm] lol [03:45pm] Hi pebbles [03:45pm] me/ makes notes on all these pop ups and thinks must check his sites with a fine tuned browser [03:45pm] bah [03:45pm] lol Bobbiekey [03:45pm] paypal fucked me bad in the ass :/ [03:45pm] oh my [03:45pm] ouch! [03:45pm] paypal sucks for retention [03:45pm] its all legal mrm ;) [03:45pm] * MrMaryLou makes notes on all these pop ups and thinks must check his sites with a fine tuned browser [03:45pm] it's too easy for the members to cancel i think [03:45pm] lol MML [03:45pm] want to have my bank statement, id card, credit card statement and stuff [03:45pm] i still have a few hundred bucks in it [03:45pm] first born [03:46pm] i dont ever expose a surfer to a popup until they are 'mine' the i break it off in em ROFL >:) [03:46pm] druid tell i dont have problem with paypal [03:47pm] bummer Druid [03:47pm] hm [03:47pm] i use them since early 2000 [03:47pm] never had a problem before [03:47pm] what cause the problem then [03:47pm] isnt pay pal getting out of the porn biz? [03:47pm] thats what i heard [03:47pm] didnt get n emil from my sponor and pypal sec man [03:48pm] yep its what I heard too [03:48pm] well [03:48pm] i use it for personal stuff [03:48pm] ah [03:48pm] they still wil pay for erotica with some exeptoions [03:48pm] geeeze i write chineze [03:48pm] lol [03:48pm] haha [03:48pm] we are used to it stuveltje >:) [03:48pm] and then some LOL [03:48pm] yep we understand what you are trying to write :)) [03:48pm] haaaaaaaaaaaaa ............f.......... uyou know what sec man:updown: [03:48pm] does ebay have an adult site? [03:48pm] sort of lol [03:49pm] rofl [03:49pm] lol [03:49pm] lol [03:49pm] ok... I'm going to be adding the info to the thread later this afternoon... anymore points we can think of presently that should be included? [03:49pm] hahahahahaha i love you allllllllllllll:updown: [03:49pm] * security_man ducks and runs from stuvletje [03:49pm] we luv you too stuveltje... chineze and all.. [03:49pm] only other thing might be to mirror freesites with fpas before content to submit to linklists that are cool with that [03:49pm] The main purposes of the project itself is by examples (both verbal as well as visual) we all will hopefully see how to more effectivly use FPA's :) [03:49pm] * Bobbiekey` laffs [03:49pm] when a ll says no fpas it doesn't mean you can't have them between your links and your sponsors - [03:50pm] hahaha bobbie:wave1: [03:50pm] it just means they can't be in the link list owners face [03:50pm] exactly - i never have been able to put it that way LOL [03:50pm] Good point Cheekymarie! :) [03:50pm] so i never got my point across LOL [03:50pm] * MrMaryLou updowns then pukes [03:50pm] thats why i dont use them marie. [03:50pm] lol [03:51pm] the point is on top of your head stuveltje LOL [03:51pm] yep so don't abuse the rules but use them to your advantage - you could have 10 hidden behind links and anything else you want a couple in [03:51pm] ok everyone... i have to run... :)great chat and a great project.. [03:51pm] i dont got boobs on my hea mml only gray hair [03:51pm] * security_man touches stuvletjes head "OUCH - thats sharp" [03:51pm] you don't use fpas stuveltje?? [03:51pm] cya bobbiekey [03:51pm] LOL [03:51pm] byeeeee everyone... have a great day! [03:51pm] c'ya soon Bobbiekey [03:52pm] some times marie playing with it [03:52pm] cya Bobbiekey :) [03:52pm] and i dont like them myself.lol [03:52pm] Bye Bobbiekey!!! [03:52pm] ::wave wave:: [03:52pm] bya bobbie:wave1: [03:52pm] speaking of pin heads security_man LOL [03:52pm] BTW, stuvletje - i fucking HATE popups as a surfer - thats why i love them as a webmaster >:) [03:52pm] lol [03:52pm] nop i hat them s a webmaster tooo sec man.lol [03:52pm] * security_man lives in a glass house [03:53pm] why stuveltje - you could have loads of things off them, dialers, popups anything you want, if you can't sell a surfer on one sponsor try him on something else, don't let him get away until he has spent money [03:53pm] fuck hate them , oke i am chineze [03:53pm] lol [03:53pm] yes marie i know, but i get carefull after me blaklisted with 30 sites a year afgo.lol [03:54pm] hey security_man ya still got the trech coat look going [03:54pm] oke dont mention, i am chineze [03:54pm] ABSOLUTELY! [03:54pm] I'd rather the surfer spend money buying something I'm selling before he goes off to say one of MML sites and spends money there [03:54pm] pop ups used correctly are a great filtering tool... that's one of the main reasons they've stucked so long in the adult world and the non adult world is just now seeing (and overusing BTW) the success with them [03:54pm] scary [03:54pm] LOL [03:54pm] and the mohawk LOL [03:54pm] hahahahahahaha f....... you both [03:54pm] stuveltje - I never throw up a pop up or dialer until they are well into the fpas then you won't get hit by the ll [03:54pm] for real - if i see another popup for the damned x10 camera i am going to puke [03:54pm] man its safer to surf porn then it is main stream these days LOL [03:55pm] mm that what i am learning now.lol. an it is great [03:55pm]