[02:58pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise!-NEWBIE CHAT TIME - Today is Wednesday -April 9th 2003 ~*\!/*~ -- Adult Webmasters Only!!! ' [02:58pm] heya Rowdy [02:58pm] insurance in blackjack is a side bet, if the dealer has 21 and you take insurance you win the insurance ammount if he does not..you loose it [02:58pm] SASSSY! [02:59pm] Hey [02:59pm] SM [02:59pm] ya big pimp [02:59pm] lol - howdy manno :) [02:59pm] hi security_man [03:00pm] hey rowdy [03:00pm] hey Mr Mary Lou :) [03:00pm] hey Rowdy :) [03:00pm] hey security_man :) [03:00pm] twinkley :) [03:00pm] good to see ya'all [03:01pm] howdy huey [03:01pm] hi huey [03:01pm] hi all [03:01pm] heya everyone :) [03:02pm] howdy ketmoble [03:02pm] open chat today? [03:02pm] i think rowdy has a topic [03:02pm] woohoo [03:02pm] to a degree Blue_Spade.. getting final input on the pages from last week :) [03:02pm] ahh [03:02pm] but other than that... we can chat away on anything [03:03pm] http://www.adultplaces.com/netsurprise/organize/ [03:03pm] Jello all [03:03pm] this can be expanded quite a bit per personal taste but that is about the basics I was looking at presently.. anything else that really needs to be added that someone can't just do themselves? [03:03pm] hey mrm :) [03:03pm] Rowdy, ever though about making those pages dynamic? [03:03pm] hi MrMaryLou [03:03pm] writing a script to control all of it? [03:04pm] whoever put the javascript mouse thing on the pages needs to be shot..:) [03:04pm] Blue_Spade .. not really as this is supposed to be more "newbie oreintated" to go along with the newbie pack :) [03:04pm] gotcha, avsmanager will have a completely database driven version kinda like that [03:05pm] what mouse thing? [03:05pm] but that could easily be applied to the same principle I agree :) [03:05pm] i was speaking of whoever owns urlhere.com [03:05pm] lol - i see [03:05pm] hahah.. guess I shouldn't have made those clickable huh.... :) [03:05pm] its a great idea, but obviously this should not be in a non protected webspace [03:06pm] hi Bjoofs [03:06pm] howdy bjoofs [03:06pm] yo bjoofs [03:06pm] Hi evryone :) [03:06pm] KetMoble.. this is for people to download when complete and use on their systems... not actually put it web asccesible for most folks cases :) [03:07pm] it will be a zip file with the basic html pages they can add to or alter as they want... [03:07pm] i gotcha [03:07pm] it pays to be organized [03:08pm] i personally do something similar with sponsors content and counters, but its only on my puter - dont forget that you can run a website off of your hard drive, no need to publish it [03:08pm] :) [03:08pm] hehe [03:09pm] anyone have any suggestions that would apply to most users (as like I mentioned before, they can alter these example pages for whatever use they want ) [03:10pm] looks pretty thourough [03:10pm] Looks great to me Rowdy+ [03:10pm] on avsmanager I have a few more things that are avs specific but other than that it looks like every generic feature needed is there [03:11pm] Rowdy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [03:11pm] spade was is this avsmanager [03:11pm] whoa, i am late....... sorry [03:11pm] err what is this... [03:11pm] cool... now just have to write "instructions" for newbies...lol [03:11pm] got wrapped up in my new project [03:11pm] i really cant think of anything - and i am one of the most stats crazy people i know LOL [03:11pm] my latest project [03:11pm] dont worry bratt there just docking your pay a half a day [03:11pm] http://www.avsmanager.com [03:11pm] hey bratt [03:11pm] will go live in about 2 weeks [03:11pm] lol.. hi Bratt [03:11pm] nice err spash page...:) [03:11pm] thanks [03:12pm] splash [03:12pm] it is a avs site manager for avs builders [03:12pm] FUCK I CANT TYPE TODAY! [03:12pm] thats one flashy logo you got there manno ;) [03:12pm] like it? [03:12pm] Cool, love to see it... [03:12pm] I'm using AVS Assist right now [03:12pm] this will be all webbased [03:12pm] you will create an account [03:12pm] the add your sites [03:13pm] Blue_Spade does that help for webmasters who forget to link there thumbs LOL ooop [03:13pm] s [03:13pm] damn you! [03:13pm] LOL [03:13pm] haha [03:13pm] lol MrMaryLou [03:13pm] kewl - someone else catchin hell for one of their sites instead of me LOL >:) [03:13pm] hey Lassiter, huey [03:13pm] hi Lassiter [03:13pm] hi [03:14pm] howdy lass [03:14pm] wb huey [03:14pm] wb huey [03:14pm] yep. . . forgot to link up the images [03:14pm] bah [03:14pm] Hiya Bratt, Rowdy, security_man [03:14pm] little crash [03:14pm] hey MrMaryLou, don't you just love the ones that submit a site to you that the metas say 'put sentence version of title here'LOL [03:14pm] did you decide if you were going to charge for it blue spade? [03:14pm] Home with allergies today B-/ [03:14pm] as of now probably not [03:14pm] no security_man at least hes not a repeat offender [03:14pm] LOL [03:14pm] don't think it is worthy of a charge yet [03:14pm] haha [03:14pm] ooooh - shot through the heart LOL [03:15pm] I will see how many people start to use it [03:15pm] and like it [03:15pm] then go from there [03:15pm] Looks slick Blue_Spade show us more [03:15pm] Bratt: I did that once in my early days :) [03:16pm] it is not published yet . . . only layouts are prepped [03:16pm] i have been getting it alot lately...... [03:16pm] backend still needs to be designed [03:16pm] Then I started submitting sites to the newbie board for review until I learned to look for mistakes like that :) [03:16pm] I plan to go open it up on the 21st [03:17pm] cool.. good luck with it [03:17pm] Hey I got a question how many build there sites from the front to the back or back to the front ? [03:17pm] Thanks [03:17pm] me [03:17pm] back to front [03:17pm] MrMaryLou.. both actually.... whatever "hits" me at the moment actually :) [03:18pm] Depends on the sites, for AVS's and Free's usualy back first [03:18pm] hi Zero_B [03:18pm] Hello sorry I am late [03:18pm] go sit in the corner with the other late folks... [03:18pm] MrMaryLou: I do both depending.Sometimes I have content & make galleries, and then decide on a front end, but other times I'm promoting a particular niche or sponsor & I start with the front end and find galleries to match [03:18pm] lol ket [03:18pm] I like to start with two blank galleries and let the content inspire me [03:18pm] :) [03:19pm] What's twinkley up to today? :) [03:19pm] i do avs MrMaryLou, so I have several sets of galleries done already, i just vary them.So i guess i would have to say back to front.... [03:19pm] i don't know but I have gotten 4,000 hits in the last 3 hours on http://www.bluespadegroup.com from FL . ..;) [03:20pm] Cool [03:21pm] 4001 Blue LOL [03:21pm] even more so if they're making you money :) [03:21pm] i pretty much build a bunch of templates then slap em together and run a macro to do the keywords and such so i guess i do whole to whole :) [03:22pm] whole to whole lol [03:22pm] pay no attention to the double entendre there LOL [03:22pm] i have my stuff set up in folders, one big folder, SITES, then sub folders, index, main, join and mix and match the pages in each folder [03:22pm] so you go whole to whole too bratt >:) [03:22pm] shit blue spade throw a CE mag add on there! [03:23pm] :p [03:23pm] i should! [03:23pm] that's the way to go in order to turn out a bunch of sites in a reasonable amount of time [03:23pm] yep [03:23pm] I do the same [03:23pm] can get my 8 avs set in about an hour [03:23pm] Can i hit the group with a question? its more general than specific to orginization [03:23pm] prolly a gay banner would be better bluespade >:) [03:23pm] haha [03:24pm] it takes me longer than an hour, but i can get them done pretty darn quick [03:24pm] looking to sign up are ya?! [03:24pm] waht KetMoble [03:24pm] nice - good comeback LOL [03:24pm] 1 hour = 6 cups of java [03:24pm] ett hut [03:24pm] howdy captbilly :) [03:24pm] hi cptbilly [03:25pm] Me and my partner have a huge disagreement on exit and popup trafic, he feels that ANY is bad, I feel that light pop under on exit is not to bad...but i notice all the big boys, play pop up hell...is this trafic actualy effectual? or does it just piss the surfer off? [03:25pm] there is a burger place near me named "cptbillywhizbangs country burgers" LOL [03:25pm] Hi rowdy and all [03:25pm] exit traffic is great [03:25pm] as long as you know how to use it [03:25pm] just like anything else [03:26pm] KetMoble.. in my own opinion.. it can increase revenue drasitcally as the ones it really pisses off the worst, is the free loaders that you don't want back anyhow :) [03:26pm] question- If I'm building free sites to point to my pay site ,should I build them with the same look or or should they all be really different looking [03:26pm] i look at popups as "not taking no for an answer" - when someone exits they are saying no to your ads so by popups you give them another opportunity to buy :) [03:26pm] different [03:26pm] imho [03:26pm] but it does take a stradegy as oposed to just throw a bunch of consoles off a site and see how it goes [03:26pm] timed pops, keyword pops [03:26pm] i say different too - you dont want surfers figgurin out how to get the free stuff too easily [03:27pm] tons of different things to consider [03:27pm] pop ups are the equivilant of the Santas ringing the bells and chasing ya down the street for donations around christmas time....lol [03:27pm] Huey make them all a bit different this will give ya better chance in listings [03:27pm] haha [03:27pm] rowdy, yes a strategic approach sounds good, but i see alot of folks poping ever increasingly annoying popups first small consoles than frameless windows then popup hell..ect [03:27pm] is that where you would offer collect email addys or offer free programs? [03:27pm] it is a possiblity [03:27pm] I have sent exit traffic to the cemag programs [03:28pm] it does purty good [03:28pm] be an interesting article to read something on exit trafic managment [03:28pm] but as a last resort [03:28pm] Zero_B.. depends... can be to generate traffic and so forth.. some people push the free type mail programs exclusively and make good money [03:28pm] it depends on what you offer on the free site - if they are normal pay trial sponsors then a free trial popup might work well [03:28pm] I've got an odd question...does anyone know why the "page rank" feature on my Google toolbar would suddenly stop working at all? [03:28pm] on any site lass? [03:28pm] yea i was thiking of a major TGP blitz with email mags [03:28pm] security_man: yep [03:28pm] howdy stuveltje :) [03:28pm] cemags are always my last attempt to get money out of the visitor [03:28pm] hahahaha hyaaa guys and gals:updown: [03:28pm] Ok thanks I need to investigate that further [03:29pm] hmm - prolly oughta run that one by linkster lass [03:29pm] KetMoble.. any article about it wiould be to general to help really as nobody is going to give away a "working formula" for the most part :) It takes some own site experimintation by starting with one... and possible working up to more as it goes on. [03:29pm] Thanks :) [03:29pm] oke what did i missed??/ [03:29pm] hiya stuveltje [03:29pm] sec_man got nekid [03:29pm] Wonder if it's another %^&&%&* problem with stupid SBC/Yahoo DSL [03:30pm] he Rowdy:updown: [03:30pm] hahahaha he got ne-kid?? [03:30pm] hahaha rowdy, yes but once i get the formula i will seeeel it on ebbbbaay for a million dollars! [03:30pm] * security_man runs into the other room covering his 'parts' [03:30pm] Such as my ICQ no longer working [03:30pm] i saw it i saw it [03:31pm] lol [03:31pm] lol [03:31pm] You must've been looking really hard then :) [03:31pm] haha [03:31pm] oh hya blue-spade, sorry still f*cking my net and puter [03:31pm] ouch [03:31pm] ohhhhhh [03:31pm] hey stuveltje [03:31pm] oooh - gawd i take so much shit around here LOL [03:31pm] It's 'cause we love you, security_man [03:31pm] :) [03:32pm] we should rename these chats to "pic on sec man chat" >:) [03:32pm] ouch naaaaaa [03:32pm] lol [03:32pm] It's really because we know you could probably deck any one of us cold inperson, so its easier to heckle ya online LOL [03:33pm] sprecken ze Irish [03:33pm] lol [03:33pm] i AM the ANS bouncer after all LOL [03:33pm] Yep ;) [03:34pm] lol [03:34pm] * Lassiter is getting really pissed at his DSL provider [03:34pm] * Zero_B needs a smoke. [03:34pm] lol [03:35pm] heeeeeee MML:updown::grin: [03:35pm] fuck [03:35pm] oops sorry [03:35pm] ive been having connection issues with my cable lately too Comcast bought AT&T and its not been a smooth transition [03:35pm] been through some connection hassles myself lately Lassiter .. and with three different ones.. you would think, it wouldn't be a problem with all at the same time huh? lol [03:35pm] oh so i am not the only one, although i am in an other country [03:36pm] security_man: SBC/Yahoo has taken to blocking any number of major ports for some reason, including Windows Media Player and ICQ [03:36pm] i think the internet is built on windows ME - it probably needs to be rebooted LOL [03:36pm] my puter freeze when i go on a website and it takes alot of time to get on a page [03:37pm] he you all gone??? [03:37pm] Im here stuveltje [03:37pm] oke i see you.lol. ohhhhh updown lassiter [03:38pm] :bluebow: [03:38pm] updown ???????????????????? [03:38pm] :grin: you :rock: [03:38pm] I paid my dsl serviceguy to climb the pole and find the best line running into our building best money I spent [03:38pm] MrMaryLou: The bouncing green thingy on the boards [03:38pm] haha [03:38pm] MML UPDOWN UPDown Updown [03:38pm] wb security_man [03:38pm] peer jacked [03:38pm] wow never had that happen before [03:38pm] wb secman [03:38pm] did the peers get us? [03:38pm] hey i have a good question why is it that not only are people on GFY assholes, but when i find myself posting there, i sound like an asshole to? [03:38pm] http://mrmarylou.com/updown/ [03:38pm] that is what you get for talking shit about the internet [03:39pm] http://mrmarylou.com/updown/ [03:39pm] http://mrmarylou.com/updown/ [03:39pm] ;) [03:39pm] my updown killer [03:39pm] roflmao - thats good mrm [03:39pm] thats hard lol. i still love you MML updown updown updown updown updown me :ROCK: [03:39pm] http://mrmarylou.com/updown/ [03:39pm] huey: I've got an ok line speed-wise, but SBC is partnered with Yahoo and I suspect they are playing games like blocking ICQ in favor of "supported" software like, er, well, Yahoo Messenger [03:39pm] my updown killer [03:39pm] killed [03:40pm] tdavid also [03:40pm] its the way the board is programmed ket - they designed it to make you sound that way LOL [03:40pm] KetMoble I have no clue about GFY [03:40pm] he drives with rowdys car over my bounchy thing [03:40pm] SBC is the devil [03:40pm] I dropped them like a bad case of the clap last year [03:40pm] haha [03:40pm] i love the blue goo that oozes out of the fingers when its squished LOL [03:41pm] na secman weeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [03:41pm] KetMoble: I'm wondering if I can get out of my contract because they've disabled my ability to use ICQ, Windows Media Player, and Eudora? [03:41pm] Lassiter [03:41pm] don't mess with SBC Yahoo! [03:41pm] it's hell [03:41pm] trust me [03:41pm] they are crooked as shit [03:41pm] Jinx: Too late B-/ [03:41pm] * Jinx did tech support for them [03:41pm] Lassiter.. really depends on the launguage they used in that contract [03:41pm] fuck SBC - they were the local baby bell for us, i got a moble phone and told em to cram it up their ass [03:41pm] I was a tech for them fools for about 6 months [03:42pm] does that fits sec man.lol [03:42pm] lassiter, i dumpted them cause we where down for 2 weeks, and went to roadrunner...no issues with SBC charging me anything BUT I was with them for a year before this [03:42pm] they basically don't give a fuck, period. [03:42pm] swore i would never EVER do business with them again [03:42pm] my job was to keep people calm and try and prolong thier membership [03:42pm] lol [03:42pm] yea our DSLAM was fux'd and they would not send a crew out [03:42pm] They deny blocking ports or disabling common software apps, but then they say things like Windows Media Player is not on our list of supported software...have you tried RealOne? [03:42pm] nothing was ever SBC Yahoo!'s fault etiehr [03:42pm] lol [03:43pm] yah, we could only supply support on certain things [03:43pm] after that you either call someone else or get transfered [03:43pm] And I suspect when I compalin about ICQ ports being blocked, theyll tell me to use Yahoo Messanger instead [03:44pm] do what i did...scream at the CSR as loud as you can to go fuck himself [03:44pm] clueless AND evil, a bad combination [03:44pm] it wont accomplish a damn thing [03:44pm] but you will feel better [03:44pm] lol KetMoble [03:44pm] yah, we could hang up on you if you yelled [03:44pm] or said anything offending [03:44pm] Yah, Lady R has cable hookup and its flawless so far [03:44pm] shit [03:45pm] yeah like fuck SBC LOL [03:45pm] at that point i could care less..:) my service was not being connected they said it would take 6 weeks to get through the system [03:45pm] Roadrunner while when it first came out in austin sucked..its now stable as hell [03:45pm] Oh shit there goes another chair 150 chair [03:45pm] MML? explain [03:45pm] KetMoble: She has service thru a Time-Warner pipe but the network is actually a local outfit called stic.net [03:45pm] lass come to mojo's after chat..:) [03:45pm] LOL I wish I had pic [03:46pm] LOL [03:46pm] tell tell [03:46pm] But...Time-Warner slammed her on installation and hooked her up to RoadRunner instead, despite what the work order said [03:46pm] yikes [03:46pm] thats weird [03:46pm] my chair is listing to the left about 20 degrees [03:46pm] ahh slamming - god bless texas [03:46pm] ever work with constant? [03:46pm] KetMoble: I'm home with the plague (allergies actually)...not going anywhere today, but maybe next week? [03:46pm] ?? hahahahahahaha MML take pic [03:47pm] you gotta stop breakin chairs mrm - dont bounce when stuveltje does LOL [03:47pm] sure... my IM is ketadream1 [03:47pm] I was sitting here and every thing started to look tilted LOL [03:47pm] yep MrMaryLou.. think security_man nailed it.. you've been bouncing each time stuveltje types that huh? :) [03:47pm] hahahalol [03:48pm] LOL [03:48pm] rofl - doncha just hate it when that happens [03:48pm] KetMoble: Yah, stic.net said it was a common practice of Time-Warner & they have a complaint against them at the Public Utility Commission because of it [03:48pm] stuveltje it your fault [03:48pm] haha [03:48pm] oh so me updown more and you will break the chair updown? [03:48pm] what the hell is updown??!!?!?!?! [03:48pm] grin, i hope so, that for killing my bounchy thing.UPDOWN [03:48pm] this is the updown killer http://mrmarylou.com/updown/ [03:48pm] Oh god this hurts to sit leaning over LOL [03:49pm] oooooooooh the little blue guy is an updown [03:49pm] Looks like an office max run to me LOL [03:49pm] yep but myn is green.lol. MML wrong bounchy color [03:49pm] on the board, ketmoble - when you type :updown: a little green guy bounces all over the place - stuveltje has made a name for herself with that trademark LOL [03:49pm] sorry up all night me and bratt gave me her insomnia so im a little slow [03:49pm] you turn blue in fear [03:49pm] lol [03:50pm] KetMoble: go to http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/message-board/newbieboard/viewthread/9960/ and look for the bouncing green thingies in the text [03:50pm] lol [03:50pm] i killed my insomnia this week, taking nyquil [03:50pm] thus my color [03:50pm] Those are :updown: s [03:50pm] yes if you strangle me enough i will turn blue [03:50pm] hahahhahaha the stuffy head, runny nose why the hell am i in a coma on the kitchen floor medicine [03:50pm] UPDOWN UPDOWN hit me.lol [03:51pm] lol [03:51pm] hey mrm - where is the unix manual you throw at stuveltje LOL [03:51pm] NyQuil?Damn, I thought it was some particularly bad batch of absinthe [03:51pm] :) [03:51pm] me duck [03:51pm] MrMaryLou slams a 60 lb unix manual on stuveltje 's head. That gotta hurt... but then again... where there's no sense... there's no feeling! [03:51pm] that hurtssssssssssssssssss [03:51pm] is there such a thing as a good batch of absinth i swear that stuff tastes like ASS [03:51pm] rofl - i laugh every time i see that [03:51pm] UPDOWN [03:51pm] duck [03:51pm] I work until I fall asleep and the start working again when I wake up ... that's about all I can keep track of so I din't even bother looking at the clock anymore...lol [03:51pm] grin [03:52pm] all work and no play makes rowdy a dull boy [03:52pm] all work and no play makes rowdy a dull boy [03:52pm] all work and no play makes rowdy a dull boy [03:52pm] all work and no play makes rowdy a dull boy [03:52pm] all work and no play makes rowdy a dull boy [03:52pm] all work and no play makes rowdy a dull boy [03:52pm] all work and no play makes rowdy a dull boy [03:52pm] :) [03:52pm] KetMoble: That was my imporession too..apparently once you get enought down ya dont care about the taste :) [03:52pm] ohhhhhhhhhit him rowdy [03:52pm] starving . . . good chat people, see yall later!and if you ahve anything you want added into avsmanager be sure to pm me [03:52pm] yipee office max has chairs on sale :))) [03:52pm] cya blue [03:52pm] security_man.. I'm as dull as I'll ever be... that's just not dull enough for some....hahaha [03:52pm] * Lassiter tosses Rowdy a large trout [03:52pm] bya bluespade [03:52pm] lol [03:53pm] later Blue_Spade [03:53pm] heheheheheh thumsup rowdy [03:53pm] god deal MrMaryLou.. road trip time :) [03:53pm] see ya later bluespade [03:53pm] good deal even [03:53pm] * security_man screams "not the trout again!!!" and runs into the other room waving his hands fevoursly [03:53pm] yes only 99.99 LOL [03:53pm] he sec man you ar still ne-kid.lol [03:53pm] * Rowdy wonders what security_man did with a trout before to spawn that reaction.....lol [03:53pm] yeah - but i have a trout now LOL [03:54pm] hhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahaha [03:54pm] :) [03:54pm] "spawn" being the opprative word LOL [03:54pm] lol [03:54pm] wtf is this whole up/down sheet and the chairs [03:54pm] oh wait did i type that outloud? [03:54pm] well folks good chat gotta go get a chair LOL see ya all :)) [03:54pm] lol me updown [03:54pm] http://mrmarylou.com/updown/ [03:54pm]