[03:00pm] head on over to ANS slick [03:00pm] hi all :) [03:00pm] hiya spook, its been goin' spadie :p [03:00pm] shoudl be able to find a good listing there [03:00pm] howdy rowdy :) [03:00pm] hey everyone [03:00pm] Yo Rowdy! [03:00pm] dont think so [03:00pm] oh ok [03:01pm] miss read it thought you said heard of ANS [03:01pm] heh [03:01pm] hey andy - i hate to say it but this is the most comprehensive list of avs sites i have been able to find http://pornresource.com/avsguide.php [03:01pm] hi Lassiter [03:01pm] wellcyberage is good,proadult, onverifyand cecash [03:01pm] howdy lass [03:02pm] Yo Lassiter [03:02pm] FNP [03:02pm] thx sec man [03:02pm] try those SlickRick [03:02pm] np andy :) [03:02pm] Hi Rowdy, security_man, Blue Spade [03:02pm] don't you use FNP spooky? [03:02pm] hey rowdy [03:02pm] and personally i like FNP andy :) [03:02pm] Drizzt,i stopped getting fnp sales so i stopped using them [03:02pm] gotem bookmarked thanks [03:02pm] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise! - Newbie Chat - Today is Wednesday -March 26th 2003 ~*\!/*~ -- Adult Webmasters Only!!! ' [03:02pm] sounds like me and NetVerifier & Adult Check [03:02pm] hehe [03:03pm] yall noticed a downturn in sales sense the war started? [03:03pm] adult check sucks [03:03pm] yep [03:03pm] war sucks [03:03pm] not really [03:03pm] security_man yeah [03:03pm] yes [03:04pm] i stopped submitted my sites the second day of the war.did not want to "waste" them [03:04pm] not sure how this week is going . . . been on protest and not building! [03:04pm] damn people are watching cnn instead of porn lol [03:04pm] okay good - i was hoping i wasnt just doing something wrong LOL [03:04pm] everyones watching CNN insteadof surfing for porn? [03:04pm] hey all [03:04pm] Yo Rammy [03:04pm] lol AndyEm..great minds thinkalike ;) [03:04pm] j/k [03:04pm] people watching cnn not porn [03:04pm] hi Ramster [03:04pm] howdy ramster [03:04pm] I think I will start building again Friday [03:04pm] people always still need their porn [03:04pm] Ramster: Especially now ;) [03:05pm] security_man.in truth we are all lying to make you feel good...everybody else has seen a %5000 increase in traffic [03:05pm] i build and submit everyday [03:05pm] they will get sick of the was in a week [03:05pm] ;) [03:05pm] lol spooky [03:05pm] lol [03:05pm] until the net shuts down.. work as normal here :) [03:05pm] i think we will see a huge uptick in sales when baghdad is taken and the war is over - the whole economy should :) [03:05pm] "The war again?When is rerun season over, man? Guess I'll go wank to porn" [03:06pm] lol [03:06pm] lol lassiter [03:06pm] we just have to make sure we are set up properly to take advantage of it [03:06pm] Of course, these are reruns from 10 years ago...oughta be on Nick at Night [03:06pm] brb, gotta grab some lunch [03:07pm] cya huey [03:07pm] >:) [03:08pm] Sales actually have gone up and down for me this last few weeks but have averaged out to about normal [03:08pm] same here Rowdy [03:08pm] same here [03:08pm] a day or two before the war i hit a peek then it hit the bottom, clicks and sales both are down for me significantly [03:09pm] March is certainly better than January was for me [03:09pm] Xmas holidays sucked [03:09pm] my ratios are staying the same just overall traffic sux [03:09pm] but that might be because of my server going down for two days and the resulting blacklisting LOL [03:09pm] when creating free/avs does everyone stick with a niche and make so many then move on ..or do you make a bit in each niche everyweek ? [03:09pm] lol [03:09pm] i mix it up myself [03:10pm] i usually work on one domain at a time so one niche per month usually for me [03:10pm] AndyEm.. unless a real noticable trend becomes apparent, it's a hit mad miss "whatever I haven't had to see much of lately" type thing personally :) [03:11pm] i was thinking of taking that approach myself sec man [03:11pm] thx guys [03:11pm] lol rowdy [03:11pm] howdy you bouncy stuveltje [03:11pm] can't sell what you don't like building so I jump around as not to get burned out or in a rut [03:11pm] ok [03:11pm] Hi stuveltje! [03:11pm] true Rowdy. I had a sponsor introduce a new site so I pushed it for a week [03:11pm] i am here thank you rowdy:updown hyaa sec man [03:11pm] ok rowdy [03:11pm] Hiya stuveltje [03:11pm] hey stuveltje [03:12pm] thats very true rowdy - thats why i do something different each month - it takes about that long to get burned out on one niche for me ;) [03:12pm] hya lassiter, andyem [03:12pm] oke what are we talking about and srry i am late:grin::updown: [03:13pm] We were talking about you and why you're late, stuveltje LOL [03:13pm] stuveltje... a bit of everything actually but the "official chat" is for site reviews if anyone needs it [03:13pm] ive bee researching link lists to submit too anyone have any cant miss ones as far as traffic [03:13pm] lol lassiter, nice to talk about me [03:13pm] who ya submitting to now andy? [03:13pm] link-o-rama [03:13pm] rowdy then i have to mak one first.lol [03:13pm] AndyEm.. I have plenty of lists...lol [03:13pm] realm [03:14pm] can't miss? GG, Tommy and Richard's. lol [03:14pm] damn i dont have my list here [03:14pm] list list, oh my list [03:14pm] ok ramster [03:14pm] lol [03:14pm] and dangerdave, smutgremlins, hoes, maybe penisbot [03:14pm] he ramster i believe i revewd a site from you tonight [03:15pm] what site? [03:15pm] premium sex links, welovefreeporn, linkfabulous, janesguide, jaysxxxlinks [03:15pm] i like reviewing learning alot from it [03:15pm] this is fun LOL [03:15pm] and ofcourse the places pack and anarchy >:) [03:15pm] :) [03:15pm] you submit to a LL o was reviewing a LL from an other webmaster because he was putting a other LL up for me [03:16pm] brownose again sec man [03:16pm] its a gift i have LOL [03:16pm] sweet [03:16pm] Ramster i am sweet:evil: [03:16pm] hehe [03:16pm] lol [03:16pm] security_man: All of which are conveniently linked on something called Submittool, right? :) [03:17pm] andyem explorexxx also a good one:grin: [03:17pm] why now that you mention it - they are LOL [03:17pm] lol [03:17pm] ok [03:18pm] sure does. hehe [03:18pm] are link lists better for free traffic or avs traffic? [03:18pm] i agree ramster i submit to you for 17 months now.lol [03:18pm] or both [03:18pm] depends on the list [03:18pm] ok [03:18pm] yes, try jeenysadultlinks, dangerdave, explorexxx, findpics, markslinks [03:18pm] personally i only submit free sites to linklists but its a personal thing [03:18pm] me too sec man [03:18pm] thank you stuveltje [03:18pm] i guess just test them out over time and see what works? [03:19pm] exactly AndyEm [03:19pm] wll you dont need alot of traffic from a LL to get sales [03:19pm] exactly AndyEm ... everyone can give advice but it boils down to how it reacts to your sites [03:19pm] thats the best advice, unfortunately andy, too many variables to say definitavely in your case [03:19pm] it's the long term SE traffic that will benefit [03:20pm] whats yalls best page rank on a domain you own? [03:20pm] with se's...do i submit each free site or avs i make to google....or wait for them to spider my site? [03:20pm] through google [03:20pm] 1 [03:20pm] i submit to LL wich give me less traffic but quality [03:20pm] kidding [03:20pm] PR5 on two domains ;) [03:20pm] nice - well done lass [03:20pm] 4 for me [03:20pm] hahaaha ramster [03:20pm] Well, only on specific pages on one of 'em [03:21pm] i got pr0 sites wich get more traffic then a pr4 [03:21pm] lol - me too :updown: [03:21pm] pr4 for me [03:21pm] hehehehe sec man :updown::agree: [03:22pm] Yeah same... PRdoesn't seem to have much correlation with how high up in the SEs a site is for any particulat term [03:22pm] submit them andy, but only by hand [03:22pm] PR is not it all of course. I have free sites and galleries getting tons of hits. Haven't the faintest idea what the PR is and don't care [03:22pm] pr9 for me......well no...i am lyingpr5 [03:22pm] ok secman [03:22pm] Iv;e got PR2 sites that have lots of top 10 or even #1 rankings for certain search terms [03:22pm] o told last time on the LL board i got domains under constructon wich ar pr3 hell what must i think about pr [03:23pm] Lassiterme 2 [03:23pm] i think the pr is becomming less important than it was a couple of months ago personally [03:23pm] i had the top jade hsu site 2 months agopr2it was a tgp gallery at that [03:23pm] hyaaa spookyx:updown: [03:23pm] PR has mainly to do with how often the site is spidered, I think [03:23pm] and i am back [03:24pm] hey stuveltje [03:24pm] HEEEblue-spade:updown: [03:24pm] wb [03:24pm] hey stuveltje [03:24pm] i thought pr was important until i sw my under construction sites [03:24pm] i found a site that explained the exact algorithm of the PR and googles rankings in general - i think you have to be a fucking rocket scientist to understand that shit [03:24pm] have alot all redirecting to my LL [03:24pm] hi sascha [03:25pm] hi rowdy [03:25pm] hya sascha:updown: [03:25pm] hi stuv [03:25pm] i'm looking for the chat with gonzo and shemp... [03:25pm] tgp and sponsor programs - are the topics [03:25pm] sec_man, yep, it is all strange [03:25pm] dunno [03:26pm] wrong one sascha. that's AdultHeadsUp [03:26pm] right ramster... [03:26pm] lol [03:26pm] The algorhthyms are alway shifting too [03:26pm] the problem...I'm behind a proxy and they don't let me in the chat cause of that [03:26pm] sascha, this is the AdultNetSurprise Newbie Chat [03:26pm] but the proxy is my only way :-( [03:27pm] lasS: yess, everything is based on the analyzed values [03:27pm] @rowdy: i know...thanks [03:27pm] its okay sascha - this chat is better >:) [03:27pm] lol secman [03:27pm] :agree: sec man [03:27pm] anybody an idea how to come over this proxy problem ? [03:27pm] but agreed [03:28pm] this chat has a long history too :-) [03:28pm] sascha: you can use an eggdrop [03:28pm] eggdrop???? new word for me [03:28pm] on a unix shell account [03:28pm] hey real... whats that ??? [03:28pm] @real: I have only win machines here [03:28pm] old school [03:28pm] :-) [03:28pm] its a kind of soup stuveltje - as far as i know LOL [03:28pm] what im trying to understand is what can tgp traffic and top list traffic be used effectively for ? [03:29pm] only win 3.1 till millenium :-) [03:29pm] When my agency had a proxy filter I figured out a way to configure mIRC to work, but it was trial & error and I dont remember how I did it. [03:29pm] you order a shell account with a shell provider [03:29pm] then you can use that to chat [03:29pm] hahahahahah i translate it as et a egg fall [03:29pm] sales andyem LOL [03:29pm] lol of course [03:29pm] ;) [03:29pm] @lassi: i'm in this chat over mirc with proxy...no problem [03:29pm] people have told me tgp traffic stinks bla bla ... [03:29pm] @lassi: but adultheadsup ... they don't like [03:30pm] i dont use it myself but that doesnt mean i never will [03:30pm] lol [03:30pm] sascha: Then I dunno why ya cant get into the AHU chat...are they java only or som,ething? [03:30pm] yes i think tgp stinks andyem and i still make them from every free site i make.lol [03:30pm] andy: tgp traffic is just made up of people looking for free porn . . . doesn't mean that you cannot sell them [03:30pm] @real: which provider.. please give me one [03:30pm] tgp trafic is like all others.. valuable if you first know how to use it to make money and second, performs as expected :) [03:30pm] I wouldn't know anyone good these days [03:30pm] exactly Rowdy [03:30pm] just do a google search for shell providers [03:30pm] heeeee kreeeeeeeeeeeeee:updown: [03:30pm] performs as aspected is key Rowdy [03:30pm] its a high volume market [03:31pm] thats the problem for me - i have no clue how to convert it and i dont have time to learn right now [03:31pm] the how to use it part is what i want to know [03:31pm] as rowdy say about tgp...my opinion too [03:31pm] i suck at evething except free sites and some tgps [03:31pm] :p [03:31pm] damned peers got spook [03:31pm] nah just need to keep practicing stuveltje [03:31pm] sneeky peers [03:31pm] peer again? [03:31pm] mmm i will be in tgp chat nect time [03:31pm] Andy... you pretty much have to fgiure out a sales approach with tgp traffic nowadays as most is a hard "traffic exchange" due to the low amount of click thrus with it.... [03:31pm] if you want to start out in TGP, have cheap hosting number 1 and try pushing more niche sponsors [03:32pm] big cock i sell good at tgp, pee, and outdoors, and gay [03:32pm] if you all talk about tgp and mgp take a look at my page at http://www.morefacials.com/movies.shtml [03:32pm] niche [03:32pm] and tell my if it is ok or not [03:32pm] niche tgp is good [03:32pm] Andy... but there will be something heading your way that will help with tgps in the near future.... that's all I'm saying for now...lol [03:32pm] ok thx guys [03:33pm] heeeee rowdy again secrets???? [03:33pm] @real: niche...right like mine [03:33pm] sure sascha .. [03:33pm] oh my i hate secrets, thats 2 [03:33pm] sascha, sideway scrolling is a turnoff [03:33pm] lol stuveltje :) [03:33pm] Rowdy, with ANS? [03:33pm] yes rowdy tell:evil: [03:33pm] or CE? [03:33pm] please take a look at my page at http://www.morefacials.com/movies.shtml and give me feedback [03:34pm] ans [03:34pm] he is working at ans. [03:34pm] grrrrrrrrrr [03:34pm] i HATE auto resize javascript [03:34pm] getem kre [03:34pm] btw lassiter i have authorise you at my icq [03:34pm] sascha... IE error on line 372 ... and it looks good at a wide resolution but on a smaller screen size, the sideways thing isn't going to help you [03:35pm] sasha, make it fit in a window. no resizing and ni sideways scrolling [03:35pm] i hate sideways scrolling [03:35pm] you have a mouseover tag open somewhere [03:35pm] brb [03:35pm] aha [03:35pm] I saw, stuveltje.Thanks! [03:35pm] but it resizes to full screen [03:35pm] the layout itself looks fine IMHO although you could easily get a bit more advertising if you wanted [03:35pm] it should work all after this full screen resize [03:36pm] @rowdy: first i fish for bookmarkers [03:36pm] and at 1024x768 [03:36pm] then it doesnt scroll [03:36pm] decent site but don't put so many links to your "Archive". It will not get you bookmarkers. Bookmarkers do not like blind links like that [03:36pm] sascha the resolution settings of the monitor is gonna make a big difference in the appearance [03:36pm] back [03:37pm] @kre8t=r: right...resolution is important [03:37pm] wb [03:37pm] especially with the resize script on it [03:37pm] ty rowdy [03:37pm] hey avtazca [03:37pm] @rowdy: your hint about res ? [03:37pm] hya AV-TazCa [03:37pm] hi Taz [03:37pm] hi [03:37pm] anyone play with flash much [03:38pm] mmmm flash nop [03:38pm] i use swish [03:38pm] swish is much easier on the learning curv [03:38pm] many surfers still use 800 X 600 so I personally usually build for that [03:38pm] sorry, i am late, was out mowing the lawn....... [03:38pm] but HIIIII everyone [03:38pm] @rowdy ok [03:39pm] howdy bratt- you gotta make kre do grunt work like that LOL [03:39pm] hey bratt [03:39pm] However, using percentages in an overall page table or such can help alignment issues depending on layout [03:39pm] i use % all the time [03:39pm] you have to talk to him about that, i love putting on a bikini and going out in the sun and mowing [03:39pm] so all in all ??? give me a status... [03:39pm] Hi Bratt [03:39pm] although today there wasn't much sun [03:39pm] hya huey [03:39pm] hey now [03:39pm] Hi Bratt [03:39pm] hey [03:39pm] wb huey [03:39pm] well if your in a bikini than he is right to make you do it ROFL [03:39pm] wb huey [03:39pm] @bratt: hi [03:39pm] let her mow half nekkid!!! [03:39pm] wb huey [03:39pm] sun bikini, its 18C at my plave ,.... was its evening now [03:40pm] it is 80 here now [03:40pm] it snowing here [03:40pm] nowing.lol [03:40pm] snowing.lol [03:40pm] sorry [03:40pm] where do you live AVtaz? [03:40pm] lol [03:40pm] its actually quite temprate here today - only 75 degrees [03:40pm] BC Canada [03:40pm] heh heh... :bounce: :bounce: means something different in a bikini :) [03:40pm] damn here in toronto its damn hot [03:40pm] how much is 75 degress? [03:40pm] lol [03:41pm] 75F is about 21-22C [03:41pm] 75 is aboutt 22 [03:41pm] um - shit i dunno in celcius - its real comfortable LOL [03:41pm] heeee hehehehe nevdul:updown: [03:41pm] yup [03:41pm] av Im from vancouver [03:41pm] * Lassiter supports the sport of bikini jogging ;) [03:41pm] I am in Cranbrook [03:41pm] it was nice enough to put on something skimpy and mow the lawn, that is all i know [03:41pm] cool [03:41pm] ohhhhh nice tempature [03:41pm] lol [03:41pm] lol lassiter [03:41pm] hahaha - we kicked the canooks asses last night >:) [03:41pm] where are you from sec man [03:41pm] dallas [03:41pm] * Ramster has no idea what's it's like out. Gotta get out more. hehe [03:42pm] sascha.. overall it looks good..... limit your links as suggested, fix the code error and correct the size issue and you should be good to go :) [03:42pm] i hate them stars [03:42pm] damn their good this year [03:42pm] HAHAH!!! i love hocky :) [03:42pm] netherlands fucking cold at nights now [03:42pm] @rowdy: thanks... [03:42pm] go leafs :) [03:42pm] GO OILER [03:42pm] :P [03:42pm] lol [03:42pm] kiked the canucks at home last night [03:42pm] stars are gonna take it - if we can get past the redwings [03:42pm] i'll sell tickets for her next lawn job :p [03:42pm] @rowdy: I will be back tomorrow, i'm german and its 10 pm now...i got to bed [03:42pm] sascha .. anytime over at http://adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/newbieboard/ you can get reviews/help as well :) [03:42pm] just take pictures kre LOL [03:43pm] never happen security_man [03:43pm] past the redwings? I don't know. I see Turco's back though [03:43pm] have a good noght sascha :) hope to see you stop in at the newbie board :) [03:43pm] leafs = finals [03:43pm] i see myself in bikini soon with a laptop making porn hehehehehe [03:43pm] he aint 100% and thats a little scarry tugnut aint all hes cracked up to be [03:43pm] night even [03:43pm] at my dsummerhome [03:43pm] :) [03:43pm] have a good one sascha [03:43pm] Tugnut didn't play too good really [03:43pm] tell me about it [03:43pm] first more sun.eek [03:44pm] @kre: thanks [03:44pm] @all: bye till next time [03:44pm] once turko is all the way back we are on our way to the cup :)) [03:44pm] bya sascha [03:44pm] c'ya sascha [03:44pm] :-) [03:44pm] take care sascha [03:44pm] cya sascha [03:44pm] you too [03:44pm] ZZZZzzzzz.... [03:44pm] lol [03:45pm] it'll be tough. 4 great teams in the west. StL, Det and Col [03:45pm] dont talk hockey, i dont know shit abut thayt [03:45pm] besides andy and me are there any other's going to the t.o. webmaster comference [03:45pm] for real - we always have stlouis' nubmer tho [03:46pm] the TO thing should be good [03:46pm] wich wm conference [03:46pm] webmastersummit.com [03:46pm] TO? [03:46pm] its violence on ice stuveltje [03:46pm] lol [03:46pm]