[15:09] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise!- NEWBIE CHAT - Today is Wednesday -March 12th 2003 ~*\!/*~ -- Adult Webmasters Only!!! ' [15:09] ouch.. did that to a teacher once (didn't help my grade...lol) [15:09] no webmistrees oke i goo.lol [15:09] good day all [15:09] Hi Kaiser! [15:09] Hiya Kaiser [15:09] Hi +Ramster +stuveltje +Lassiter @Rowdy @Agent-K +AndyEm +cheapunix +Blue_Spade +twinkely +huey +gecko +FoZzI +Lady_Vapor +spookyx @Kre8t0r @Jerry_Springer +ReverendSassy +Bratt +JP_Go4LiveCash +NevDull @Surprisebot +juso +twinkley [15:09] hi Blue_Spade [15:09] hey kaiser [15:10] hya kaiser and blue spade, oh kaiser i must learn that too [15:10] hi Kaiser [15:10] hey blue :) [15:10] ;) [15:10] Kaiser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:10] hahahahaha [15:10] Blue_Spade [15:10] Yes [15:10] hello [15:10] Hello Ramster [15:10] i like that all that name throwing [15:10] Today Topic: ANS - What more can it provide? [15:10] people [15:11] Talk to us! hehehe ;-) [15:11] Free beer and pizza [15:11] We would like your thoughts on what might be missing if anything from ANS [15:11] dirty books [15:11] lol lassister [15:11] a free stats remote! [15:11] desk top strippers? [15:11] lol [15:11] hahahaha [15:11] lol [15:11] Seriously, we're here to help webmasters with their internet ventures. We'd like to know what else we can do to help. [15:11] Worth a shot :) [15:11] lol [15:11] hmmm... [15:11] seriously though... traffic, more tutorials, more guest chats... anything? [15:11] me also ummmmmmm [15:12] a free stats remote!_=====Tell me more [15:12] Well, it was just an idea [15:12] as a "newbie" id say more tutorials on traffic [15:12] Sounds like an interesting one.... [15:12] From what I see most ANS users use the same programs [15:12] do we? [15:12] how to build traffic is good yes [15:12] When you say remote? you mean links to sponsor stats? [15:12] You mean something to unify stats from different sponsors onto one page? [15:13] Indeed, i know there are program out there [15:13] oh yes the ll are prmoting them [15:13] as a "newbie" id say more tutorials on traffic ====How about a TGP step by step guide? [15:13] I'd agree with AndyEm.MrMaryLou is doing good things on the TGP/traffic board getting new LL and TGP owners to offer their submit links, etc. [15:13] maybe a rating on the best sponsors? [15:13] Kaiser: Yes! [15:13] i love those articles lass thats why i want more :) [15:14] yes what i am getting confused here [15:14] Yes to a TGP step-by-step guide [15:14] anyone know what greenguy and jim are gonna have on their resource site? [15:14] hmmm... ok... let's see... Let's take these one at a time...Stats remote first, traffic tutorials second, ok [15:14] ih yes do [15:14] Blue Spade - April 1 [15:15] hahahah yes just wanted to say 1 april, april fools day.lol [15:15] I know that is when it opens, but are they just gonna be another resource site like ANS or are they bringing out anything new? [15:15] own board they get to help webmaster with bad sponsor things and so [15:15] I think the part of the biz that changes the fastest is new traffic and linking techniques..something that would help up keep up with all the current tricks, options and no-noswould be good [15:15] Blue_Spade:Finish talking about the stats remote, Blue_Spade :) [15:15] Ok... so.. remote stats... links to the stats from different sponsors...I've always been leary of giving my personal stats info out so I would prefer a way of maintaing links to sponsro stats. [15:15] Sorry [15:16] I would say a smaller listing of the sponsors stats in a cummulative place [15:16] perfect lass [15:16] lets not forget where we are, ANS has done alot to help us newbies through the years, I would have have been lost when I started 3 years ago if it wasn't for ANS :) [15:16] Lady_Vapor: Yes indeed! [15:16] we don't want to steal from the statsremote.com people so a simpler version would be great [15:16] im with you on that lady vipor [15:16] halleluja lady-vapor [15:16] No worry Blue Spade, i'm sure they will be offering things ... Jim and Greenguy are knowledgeable people. No reason why someone has to feel like they can't learn from many different resources. [15:17] the hard thing about sponsor stats is how well some do and how shitty others do with them... it all depends on the style and so forth. With as many variables as there is, I doubt any averages are going to be real useful in a personal aspect [15:17] very true Rowdy [15:17] yea, I agree with that [15:17] I'd have been lost at the start without the ANS tutorials, sample templates, and the Links Machine [15:17] one person complains while another priases [15:17] oh th linksmachine great thing [15:17] say for instance thestatistician.com [15:17] what works for him . . . may not work for me [15:18] actually lass maybe a tutorial on page layout? [15:18] blue spade thats vry true [15:18] how about some more templates for avs sites ?? ;) [15:18] AndyEm: I think there already is one for free sites [15:18] Ok Blue Spade...I'm proud to say that we will have the first version in just a couple of days for stats checking. We'll have something more elaberate in a couple of weeks after that. [15:18] i mean every type of site lass [15:18] Kaiser: you are the man [15:18] ;) [15:18] :bluebow: [15:18] the fre part is covered well [15:19] Add this to the idea list: Build management process (I will explain when the time comes) [15:19] Yeah, people have many different results from the statisticain....some people do great with one sponsotr and do poorly with another while the next webmaster does just the opposite. [15:19] AndyEm: The thing about TGP is how the standards are constanly shifting... A single tutorial might be out of date in 6 months [15:19] very true lass [15:19] Lady_Vapor, folks can submit templates if they want as well.. that way, the same folks aren't making all of them and they don't end up to "cookie cutter" :) [15:20] thats what i tell new people all the time, because they always ask wich sponsor works best for you [15:20] Blue Spade - Build management process - Hold that thought... We might be thinking about the same thing.... but what was the next thing...Traffic education. [15:20] by traffic education are we talking about more tutorials? [15:21] Traffic Education 0 How about a project on how to build a TGP on a shoestring budget? step by step? [15:21] not a bad plan [15:21] cool [15:21] tutorials and more :) [15:21] security_man:updown: [15:21] hi security_man [15:21] how about a ANS Free Host ? for newbie/seasoned webmasters, might attract some new views from fresh blood [15:21] sec_man! [15:21] Kaiser what is shoe string bidget [15:21] howdy all :) [15:21] The process would be a weekly type thing, like our courses and the newbie project... [15:21] hey security man [15:21] budget sorry [15:22] stuveltje: I would say a hosting account and maybe software fees [15:22] opps. show string budget = Pretty much free other than hosting costs... [15:22] hey rowdy i got your icq - will hit you up after the chat :) [15:22] ohhhhhh oke [15:22] maybe a question and answer from newbies to the experienced guys [15:22] k [15:22] Use freeware and then the second course is on how to use a paid for script. [15:22] shoe string? you can do it for next to zero [15:22] Hiya security_man [15:22] AndyEm: the message boards would work great for that [15:23] hey lass :) [15:23] now thats what i want i paid scropt gor my LL but i dont even understand the free script. [15:23] Exactly Ramster...hehehe, btw.,..I was hoping you'd worki on it with mrMaryLou [15:23] geeze need a new keyboard or more light [15:23] i could do that [15:23] Hi security_man [15:23] true blue but i was thinking of a faq type style [15:23] cool! [15:23] how about volentary mentors to help newbies and offer tips in a sep room ? [15:23] hey kaiser long time manno :) [15:23] Oops.. got some RealWork. I'll be monitoring here w/ one eye but may not respond quickly ;) [15:23] that offer an hour or two of time a week... [15:23] stuveltje - I need new typing fingers... [15:24] Like for one-on-one, Lady_Vapor? [15:24] yes [15:24] lol kaiser [15:24] OK... so people are interested in the TGP projec then? yes? [15:24] yes [15:24] Well AndyEm .. I've thought of FAQ's before as well but the thing I like about the boards is all the different repsonses that one question might bring :) [15:24] yessssssss [15:24] maybe a question and answer from newbies to the experienced guys [15:24] k [15:24] if i wasnt late and knew what it was i am sure i would be LOL [15:24] true rowdy [15:24] lol sec_man [15:24] i like kaiser's idea [15:25] get a watch [15:25] Is that the next one? - maybe a question and answer from newbies to the experienced guys? A question of the week kind of thing? [15:25] security_man something for ya to do list.lol [15:25] I think that ANS needs to get the word out that people are here in the channel all the time, too. [15:25] the questions and answers thing sounds good [15:25] lol [15:25] Sounds like a winner to me Kaiser [15:25] It's your idea AndyEm [15:25] i put a link in my emails from My LL to promoot ans [15:25] sort of :) [15:25] maybe we should just start compliling message board threads [15:25] there is a ton of info burried in there [15:25] security_man, Sure has been a while... ;-) [15:25] but ya i'll take the credit lol [15:25] :) [15:26] Thanks stuveltje (i put a link in my emails from My LL to promoot ans) [15:26] and it work ed even i out it in myself .lol [15:26] light light [15:26] [15:26] This isn't clear in my head just yet, but I'd like to see more schemes/plans for trading traffic among ANS members.Like maybe taking our hubs from the hub page project and people agreeing to put cross-links somewhere on those pages to each others hubs, etc.Things like that [15:27] Lassiter.. good idea :) [15:27] we alredy do lassiter [15:27] at least i do [15:27] i was thinking about proposing something like that lass - just never got around to it [15:27] I trade links with other ans members only on my LL [15:27] stuveltje: Well, I'm a bit out of the loop this past month or 2 :) [15:27] and some others [15:27] Good idea... maybe make it automatic... people could mark those posts in a special way [15:27] yep [15:27] lassiter... Great points about the traffic.... [15:27] something more organized stuveltje - something automatic maybe [15:27] we do promote trading with the members as well ... the BAT for example has it's own list with links to and from other lists as well :) [15:28] here is an idea to add onto lassi: i am not sure if you have seen xbiz.com gallery program [15:28] and i link that to from my hub [15:28] but it would be a nice addition [15:28] Rowdy: Yep...more things like that (says he who can't join the BAT very often :) ) [15:28] i think if we could do like a link trade on all our main pages between niche specific sites that we all own would be good [15:28] hahaha [15:28] ANS has an awesome position on google last time I check for their links ! under "Adult Links" :) [15:28] WOW... Great ideas here... that's for sure...OK... hang on... I'm getting confused...Let me make a list... [15:28] Say for instance . . . NevDull was looking for some avs sites to pad his link lists [15:28] lol [15:28] what would be better than padding with ans member sites [15:28] lol [15:29] Blue_Spade.. remember alos that the ANS linklist is for members only :) [15:29] yep [15:29] that i do forget! [15:29] lol [15:29] so there is a list there and we can talk with MrMaryLou about the "borrowing" aspect :) [15:29] yea . . it would be nice [15:30] We could mirror free site warning pages, gallery pages, etc. specifically for trading with other ANSers [15:30] ouch mirror them more??? [15:30] lo [15:30] l [15:30] I like that .. it has potential [15:30] a banner rotation program on some of the ANS pages..... trade banners [15:30] stuveltje: Yes..an infinite hall of mirrors LOL [15:30] Ok... so.... here's what I have so far... tell me if something is missing... [15:30] Stats Links [15:30] TGP Project [15:30] Question of the week [15:30] Thread markers [15:30] ANS Traffic trades [15:30] i got so much mirrors [15:30] Building Management system [15:31] looks good [15:31] looks good [15:31] i got only 140 free sites but i got 1700 pages total [15:31] Building management system ... What did yoiu ahve in mind? i was thinking about a check list/project plan for each type of site that people could reference. [15:31] i think the traffic trades would be the most benefecial - if you look at link pop and such that would help alot [15:31] oke mirror more.lol [15:31] Exactly [15:31] Kaiser [15:31] stuveltje: So, thats only another 140 pages youd have to make LOL [15:32] I have a spreadsheet set up in excell that i follow for every site [15:32] ahhhhhhhh<-------fainted [15:32] rofl [15:32] it includes links to the engines, sponsors, everything [15:32] Ok great..;-)) [15:32] damn Blue_Spade that's a ;ot of work [15:32] nice idea blue [15:32] expedites work, and makes sure I don't miss anything [15:32] That sounds awesome Blue_Spade.... I'd like to ask you for help with that if you don't mind. [15:32] Of course [15:33] great [15:33] Lassiter & Security man & stuveltje - Perhaps help with the traffic trades ^& programs? [15:33] sure [15:33] yes i am all availbe (i cant write) [15:33] if you need help with anything avs related, i can help out there [15:33] We'll do focus groups (heheh, love throwing those buzz words around) [15:34] haha [15:34] lol [15:34] a dime a dozen [15:34] PErfecty Bratt! [15:34] kaiser(cant write either) [15:34] Some really good ideas rolling around here :) [15:34] yes there is Rowdy [15:34] focus groups will help us with our vertical marketing [15:34] haha [15:34] ill bet itll help us think outside the box and change the paradigm too >:) [15:34] nice we do vertical marketing with horizontaly related sites [15:35] =| [15:35] I think about that when I'm doing my other thing... petorium transfer agent... [15:35] Or pump gas attendent. [15:35] hehehe, just kidding [15:35] rofl [15:35] hah [15:35] haha [15:35] Lassiter, you there? [15:35] are there articles on vertical and hor marketing stuveltje? [15:36] when i was a bag boy at safeway i was a "package clerk" and when i was a used car salesman i was a "pre-owned automobile specialist" LOL [15:36] and how to begin that once we're at that point [15:36] BTW, congrats to Lassiter for speaking on a panel in TX [15:36] hell i dont even know what is means [15:36] what panel lass? [15:36] lol [15:36] lol [15:36] i heard about that [15:37] I'll be right back... Give me 3 minutes... (talk amoungst yourselves... ) hehehe [15:37] brb [15:37] Like buttah [15:37] oke gonna get me some drink , who want some [15:37] brb [15:37] I'm here now Kaiser! [15:37] ooo is this a 'peebreak'???? LOL [15:37] what panel did you speak on lass? [15:37] * Blue_Spade blows the wistle . . . HALF TIME [15:38] hey twiceshy [15:38] howdy twiceshy :) [15:38] security_man: The South by Southwest Interactive conference's panel on "Adult Webmastering 2003: Hard Problems in a Soft Economy" [15:38] hi there AndyEm [15:38] heyy security_man [15:38] :P [15:38] hi TwiceShy [15:38] Hi TwiceShy! [15:38] well shit where was it held? [15:38] Hi Rowdy [15:39] HI TwiceShy!!!! [15:39] Bratt!!!!!!!1 [15:39] Austin [15:39] security_man: Austin Convention Center.Part of this whole big film, music and interactive media conferance going on all week [15:39] hi Lassiter [15:39] heya stuveltje [15:39] hi Ramster [15:39] back [15:39] damn damn DAMN - i missed it - there arent ever conferences in texas and i missed it! [15:39] wb stuveltje [15:39] Hya twiceshy:updown: [15:39] lol security_man snooze yamiss [15:39] :P [15:40] Hi twiceShy! [15:40] heya Kaiser :O) [15:40] tw send me your link from you LL i put it on my Ll and hub [15:40] stuveltje ... not all sites :) http://www.utterfilth.com/rumpright/index.html [15:40] oh well - ya gotta tell me about the next one lass [15:40] sure stuveltje [15:40] Lassiter, glad you're back.. I didn't know if you had some time and were interested in being part of the traffic trade group? [15:40] http://www.thekinkdirectory.com/ there ya go stuveltje [15:41] * TwiceShy is redoing another site for a kink LL [15:41] all fetish [15:41] what rowdy??? [15:41] Kaiser: Im interested yes. [15:41] horizontal and vertical :) [15:41] back [15:41] I'm really swamped with day job right now so not building much though [15:42] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats it [15:42] hey security_man wann a see da new layout of my up and comeing site [15:42] security_man: http://www.sxsw.com/interactive/ [15:42] * TwiceShy been having fun redoing sites lol .. just dont seem like work [15:42] absolutely tw [15:43] Excellent!! Wow.... I think we have the atart of something very cool here... hang on.. let me check my notes.. [15:43] http://www.kinkyfreeporn.com/ [15:43] =\ [15:43] stuveltje, check out the gallery style on that site :) [15:43] very interesting stuff goes on at the sbsw conventions [15:43] i have seen that one last timegreatttt [15:43] sbsw? [15:43] nice TS - when its done post it on submitool so i can put it under the niche specific category [15:43] south by southwest [15:43] south by southwest [15:43] aw [15:44] its an austi texas thing [15:44] nice rowdy nice.hhehehe [15:44] :) [15:44] sure will security_man [15:44] thanx lassiter - i am bookmarking that site now :) [15:44] got a few more new thingscomeing [15:44] hey, brattslinks FINALLY got a pr with google.... [15:44] :-) [15:44] * TwiceShy will be doing a main stream computer store [15:44] lol [15:44] hi Boodrow [15:44] Hi Boodrow [15:44] hya boodrow [15:44] Howdy kids! [15:44] Greattt Bratt [15:44] Kaiser - Stats Links [15:44] Ramster, MrMaryLou - TGP Project [15:44] Question of the week [15:44] Rowdy - Thread markers [15:44] Lassiter, stuveltje, Securityman - ANS Traffic trades [15:44] Blue Spade - Building management system [15:44] good day boodrow [15:44] Yessir [15:44] you know i will always list ANSers linklists on submitool with no problem :) [15:45] =\ [15:45] security_man: Our panel is down at the bottom of this page :http://www.sxsw.com/interactive/panels/monday/ [15:45] Blue Spade, Kaiser - Building management system [15:45] i got domains under construction listed at google redirecting to hub and ll [15:45] Anyone else want to get involved in one of those projects? [15:45] Don't be shy...;-) [15:45] <-- is far from shy Kaiser [15:45] * spookyx =| [15:45] ;p [15:46] lol [15:46] * Bratt isn't shy either [15:46] I'll help MML with TGP project [15:46] lol [15:46] just dont' know where avs would fit in there [15:46] * security_man wonders why its her handle then? [15:46] i am shy and innocent [15:46] :updown: [15:46] i see that now. hehe [15:46] right [15:46] lol got the nick from white snakesecurity_man [15:46] :P~ [15:46] actually i would love to see an AVS part of the bulding managment thingy [15:46] ~~~~~~~~ [15:46] But are you OnceBitten? :) [15:46] bratt . . . I would ask you some stuff for the build management [15:46] Was it White Snake or Great White? [15:47] White Snake [15:47] i think [15:47] not sure what i would have to offerin any them projects Kaiser [15:47] lol [15:47] ops yer right Boodrow [15:47] :P~ [15:47] CCool Ramster ;-) [15:47] got white snake on my brain [15:47] it was great white - those guys that blew up the club a couple of weeks ago LOL [15:47] We'll do an AVS Project. ;-) [15:47] i can help out anywhere you want to put avs stuff Kaiser [15:47] i got water in my brain tw [15:47] that would be WAY kool... and AVS project [15:47] ill bet you do TS ROFL [15:47] Ohh avssounds cool [15:48] LOL security_man [15:48] Bratt, Maybe you and Blue Spade could work together on AVS? [15:48] security_man: Can I email or ICQ you tonite about the traffic project stuff? [15:48] TwiceShy... maybe you could help me on that [15:48] ohhhhhhhhhhhh again project???? Bratt ssttttttttttt [15:48] sure Bratt [15:48] hmmm [15:48]