[14:56] hi everyone [14:56] hey Rowdy [14:56] whats up rowdy [14:57] work as always :) [14:57] Hey there rowdy [14:57] how goes it with ya all? [14:58] hiya stuveltje [14:58] :updown: !! [14:58] hehe [14:58] HYa Rowdy , kre:bluebow::bluebow::updown: [14:58] lol [14:59] Rowdy CE redid 3 site, partysluts.com amateurbitch.com and what was the other? [14:59] Thanks rowdy for making me feel a little bit better about fetish1 [15:00] heya stuveltje [15:00] stuveltje, how you do all that jumping after eating all those pies? LOL [15:00] oh hya Blue-Spade [15:00] LOL [15:00] nice sweet apple pies [15:00] Blue_Spade.. not sure.. they've been working on quite a few [15:00] yummy [15:00] hi Lassiter [15:00] i am champion baking these things [15:00] Hiya Rowdy! [15:00] Hya Lassiter :updown: [15:00] i want pie!!! :p [15:01] hehe [15:01] no way my secret [15:01] hey stuveltje! [15:01] dont want the secret just the pie [15:01] hehe [15:01] hey MrMaryLou [15:01] Afternoon MML [15:01] hahahahaha heeeeeeeee MML :updown: [15:01] Hello all [15:01] Hi MML [15:01] hi MrMaryLou [15:01] kre realy i make the best apple pie [15:02] hmmm have to come visit one day [15:02] : } [15:02] lol [15:02] and you know what i hate apple pie myself i dont eat it...lol [15:02] lol [15:03] figures huh [15:03] stuveltje, MrsRowdy surprised me last night with a fresh baked apple pie... she must be physic...lol [15:03] good with ice cream though [15:03] my kids nd family and friends like my pie [15:03] LOL rowdy [15:03] hi erika [15:03] Hya erika :updown: [15:03] hi erika [15:03] <|erika|> hi stu [15:03] <|erika|> :) [15:03] <|erika|> hi lassiter [15:04] i like own baked bread, smells always good [15:04] OOPS [15:04] <|erika|> mmm fresh bread smells yummy [15:04] yessssssss [15:04] wb MrMaryLou [15:04] wb MML [15:04] Buns in the oven yumm [15:04] i like cooking [15:05] This will be our first year at the new place where we have enough land for a garden... looking forward to all kinds of good, fresh food in a few more months :) [15:05] Thats great stuveltje.. we like eating! ;) [15:05] hi security_man [15:05] HHeeeeeeeee Security_man :updown;:updown: [15:05] hey guys :) [15:05] Hello security_man [15:05] LOOL lassiter [15:05] Howdy all [15:05] nice Rowdy [15:05] jello [15:05] hey nevdul [15:05] Hoooooo i like that Rowdy [15:05] Hiya security_man! [15:05] king of the backyard project!!! [15:05] :p [15:06] Farmer Rowdy :) [15:06] hahahahah [15:06] lol [15:06] howdy lassiter, mrmarylou :) [15:06] I like chickens fresh warm eggs every morning [15:06] Can you get outside yet, security_man? [15:06] ok.. guess it's about time to get this chat going :) [15:06] Yep gotta plow the back fourty today [15:06] oke talk [15:06] got the links fixed Kre8t0r [15:07] Heya Sec_Man [15:07] gettin pretty close now - weve been above freezing for a couple of hours now so the main roads are passable but the side streets are still a little tretcheous [15:07] lol [15:07] where are you security_man? [15:07] Before we actually start discussing "burn out" I would like everyone to take a quick moment and go to the following url, scroll to the bottom of the page and read "comments conrner" [15:07] security_man: Same here...still ice on a lot of sidewalks. [15:07] http://cecash.com/news/2-22-03.html [15:07] dallas [15:08] Mrs Cakes is stuck in Dallas since Mnday night [15:08] Like a good boy, I read it when it hit my inbox :) [15:09] good advise Rowdy [15:09] very good [15:09] i have read it rowdy [15:09] hi luckyone and cheapunix [15:09] ill bet cakes - we all were shut down the past couple of days :( [15:10] haaaa we finally get 13C and sun but still the lakes are frozen [15:10] hi rowdy [15:10] ok... so do you all have things you do to avoid burnout? or do you just gamble a bit by trying not to thing about it? [15:10] I'm suffering more burnout from the day job than from webmastering.Building sites, etc. is what I do for stress *relief* these days LOL [15:10] think about it that is :) [15:10] we dont get snow - we get ICE and thats only once or twice a month so it gets dangerous cuz we dunno how to drive on it LOL [15:10] i use the 2nd method : / [15:10] its hard rowdy to not burn out with kids an a guy to take care of and to work on the net [15:10] Lassiter.. I remember those days all to well :) [15:11] hey Kaiser [15:11] Hi Kaiser! [15:11] the funny thing is that whenever i take a break and look at other avenues of traffic and such - it seems i tripple my workload LOL so its a double edged sward [15:11] hey kaiser :)) [15:11] Hey Kai [15:11] ditto security_man [15:11] lol [15:11] stuveltje... it can be done though... I work full time from the house, have three boys and MrsRowdy still works part time (probably more to get away from me for a bit thatn anything...lol) so I do some household things as well... [15:11] Whats a good program to use to build sites [15:11] the only thing that i change and it help, a copple of months ago i worked 3 days a week night and day, and know i only do that when it is needed. [15:11] Hi Kaiser [15:12] Hello Kre8tor, Lassiter, Security_man, Mr>MaryLou, Rowdy... [15:12] Hya Kaiser:updown: [15:12] macromedia dreamweaver is good plumcr8ze [15:12] homesite! [15:12] or reather...HI +luckyone +security_man @MrMaryLou +|erika| +Lassiter +stuveltje @Rowdy +Blue_Spade +NevDull +geckozzz +juso +scotty|adultspin +AndyEm +plumcr8ze +alex-go +Cakes +JP_Go4LiveCash +Lady_Vapor @Kre8t0r +free4radio +hexa @Surprisebot @Jerry_Springer @Agent-K +spookyx +ReverendSassy +Bratt [15:12] that too [15:12] lol [15:12] hahahahahaha [15:12] woohoo [15:12] well hello to you kaiser [15:12] HI Kaiser!!!! [15:12] i only use homesite for editing live [15:12] but thats just me :p [15:12] Yes, I sorta hesitate to take on whole new untested web avenues when I have so little time and energy to put towards what I'm already doing. But that's my own psychological barrier I think..not wanting to start new stuff unless I can commit to seeing it thru [15:12] BRatttttttt hiding for me:updown: [15:12] security_man ... you also have to keep in mind the thinking part of learning more to make what you presently do take less time so that again, everything evens out :) [15:12] whaddya mean "editing live" kre? [15:12] =\ [15:13] hahahaha Kissssssssssssssss Bratt [15:13] ooooh pretty [15:13] thats what I have I was just wondering if it was better than frontpage [15:13] hi kaisser [15:13] not hiding stuveltje, just trying to make trillian work... [15:13] thats true as well rowdy [15:13] you can edit pages on the server in real time security_man [15:13] it died on me last night, and i lost ALL my icq list [15:13] OK... does avoiding burnout mean we have to avoid work at one point or another? [15:13] REALLY?!?! homesite you say? [15:13] wow bratt [15:13] yes, homesite [15:13] yes [15:13] Rowdy: Id say yes..sometimes ya just have to walk away for a bit. [15:13] i know i got an new authorization from you [15:14] Homesite lets you edit on the fly? Wow! [15:14] Rowdy no you can change what your doinmg [15:14] hmmm i gotta get that [15:14] its great for those little updates etc that you dont want to overwrite a whole page on [15:14] IMHO, at one point you do have to "get away" but that point can take quite awhile to reach :) [15:14] homesite is great for editing straight code... [15:14] I usually use Front Page and Note Tab Light [15:14] Excellent point Rowdy!! [15:14] If nothing else, scoping out the competition can be a good, productive break. [15:14] that amount of time it takes to reach that get away point is the key :) [15:14] ooooooo Kaiser... you used the 'FP' word........LOL [15:15] I use FrontPage 2002.It's much better than it used to be. [15:15] I use namo 5.0 and edit pad :) [15:15] i use nothing [15:15] Nevdull..."If nothing else, scoping out the competition can be a good, productive break." Great point! [15:15] ACK [15:15] what do you use to edit the images to make thumbs [15:15] Rowdy: Well, define "avoid."Cause theres a diff between avoiding for an hour or a day, and avoiding for a month :) [15:15] i find "working vacations work best for me - like internext [15:15] not the "F" word NevDull [15:15] (and I'm a UNIX guy who's fine with vi, too) [15:15] hehehehehehe [15:15] lol [15:16] same here security_man [15:16] opps phone... brb [15:16] i came back from it this year with all kinds of new energy and ideas :) [15:16] nothing like buffets and open bar to relax :p [15:16] i have only been to one internext but i used to like the smaller awe meetings [15:16] lol and fights to break up LOL [15:16] I just stay heavily medicated... then i can focus for months [15:16] lol Lassiter ... ok.. you bring up a good point ...the amount of time it takes doing something else to avoid that burn out. The number will probably be different for everyone (I deal in minutes...lol) so I would say that it is whatever one is comfortable with and still making money if doing :) [15:17] better living through chemistry? ;) [15:17] well i left the net ladt year for about 3 months realy great but after that i had to start all over again bad choice [15:17] I like to not start working on the adult stuff will I get home at 7-8 pm [15:17] security_man, besides sleep, an occasional errand and 6 hours of without power, my connection has been pretty solid working full time since Chicago of last year...lol [15:17] I think I can accomplish more from 7-12 than 9-5 [15:18] hehehe - i hear that rowdy [15:18] regular breaks, exercise, and planned (out of the office time) [15:18] well i am home all day so the first thing i do when i get up is start the newbie board...lol [15:18] lmao security_man [15:18] Time for breaks is tough [15:18] hell the newbie board is my home page ;) [15:18] :) [15:18] i live there [15:18] it seems to me, if i take a day off, i have missed something.... [15:18] it is hard for me to take a day away [15:19] got me a nic little corner to sleep...lol [15:19] lol [15:19] Well, when the coding gets too intense, one can always take a break and, er, "search for content." [15:19] :) [15:19] i have gotten to where i check my computer before coffee now [15:19] Hi Ramster [15:19] morning/afternoon everybody [15:19] sorry i'm late, got sidetracked making sites [15:19] hey gecko [15:19] yeah search for content - thats what it is ROFL [15:19] Coffee first then cig the pc LOL [15:19] heya bratt [15:19] Music up really loud helps occasionally, too. [15:19] yuk still got to much content , i cant get my mind away from the adult bizz, my guys have to drag me away from the puter [15:20] Bratt... a day away ... I'm getting close to taking a few of those actually. Am I burnt out on the web and all my stuff? Nope :) but I don't want to be either so the time for an actual vacation is coming close for me. [15:20] but it took a few years to get there at the point :) [15:20] i am hoping that if all goes right, i will have a week break in April.... [15:20] hi Ramster [15:20] thats a good point as well, rowdy - make sure you dont get burned out before it happens - once you are its hard to get UNburned out :) [15:20] Hi Ramster!! [15:20] vacation? that's what the conventions are for. LOL [15:20] hi Kaiser! [15:20] LOL [15:20] hey ramster BTW ;) [15:21] I see you security_man. hehe [15:21] Yeah Montreal and Toronto are coming up [15:21] exactly security_man :) The best defense is prevention :) [15:21] August vacation is getting here!! [15:21] :) [15:21] yes they are and I can drive to both [15:21] Well, can those who transitioned into this biz from part-time to full-time advise how to get up to speed enough to jettison the day job without burning out before you reach that level of income? [15:21] ya, if April doesn't work, there is always Aug [15:21] no thats the point for me, soon i will move to my summer home, i got no connetion there, but last year it felt great to not work on the puter, now i wanna make a connection there, but i am afrid that i will work to muvch and have less fun, [15:21] Toronto Convention ?? really ?? [15:21] I have a full-time job already, and even just shifting into adult work mindset takes a bit. [15:21] Kre8t0r, I'm thinking of going to FLorida for at least a week and bringing the family (although it might be hot) [15:21] u from toronto lady vipor [15:22] i can relate nevdull [15:22] about 3 hours away from TO [15:22] which way [15:22] london [15:22] yep [15:22] Ottawa here [15:22] i gues i'll see you there [15:22] ;) [15:22] ouch hi ramster:updown: [15:22] howdy [15:22] i used to work 60 hrs a week at my other job and then come home and work another 40 hrs minimum at this - it got hairy but if you build it they will cum LOL [15:22] Zoinks. [15:22] london? [15:23] yes in London [15:23] in canada [15:23] theres really no trick to it but blood sweat and tears [15:23] London, Ontario. [15:23] ok.... [15:23] some nice women there thats for sure ;) [15:23] the tears happen when you check stats. LOL [15:23] haha [15:23] rofl - for real [15:23] hello everybody.. [15:23] lol [15:23] hey FULO [15:23] hello FULO [15:23] Hya FULO [15:23] hey fulo [15:23] howdy fulo [15:23] lol Ramster [15:23] hey FULO [15:24] Hi FULO [15:24] So .. is anyone having a problem avoiding burn out? [15:24] always [15:24] yessssss meeeeeeeee [15:24] yep [15:24] its casue of the day and now night job [15:24] ;) [15:24] stuveltje... is it work burning you out or home or the combo of both? :) [15:24] i hardly can organice with my 2 monkesy in the house [15:25] combo of both [15:25] my problem is writing text.... is it cuz i have been doing this for so long, it all sounds the same? [15:25] lol.. remember the true gift of parenthood is the conversion of a once subtle life into a walking/talking clusterfuck ... hahha :) [15:25] lol it is the same bratt [15:25] lol [15:25] true that [15:25] not yet but i see it looming on the horizon rowdy - if i do too much of the same thing it starts getting to me [15:26] haaaaaaaaaaa well adopt my kids then rodwy.lol but i dont pay for the damage [15:26] lol [15:26] I get burnt out from looking for traffic from link sites... promotion is hard work as a newbie [15:26] i got realy 2 little devils [15:26] so i break up my day somewhat with building in the am then qa in the aftenoon then submitting at night and so on [15:26] brb .. just got to answer an e-mail real quick :) [15:27] gotta keep building Lady_Vapor [15:27] I do the same secman [15:27] scheduled breaks help not burning out lady V ;) [15:27] see ya scared him off stuveltje [15:27] traffic lowers after the new listing dies [15:27] LOL [15:27] Someone needs to write a random porn word generator.You select "mature" and put in "Hot Grammas" as the site name, and it comes up with text for your banner of "Mature women looking to take out their teeth and give you a gumjob at Hot Grammas" [15:27] i just get to where everything looks the same... =\ [15:27] well i like this, hee evening at my place, so i work all day and then a relax i go in the chat...i like that [15:27] If you click reject, it comes up with another. :) [15:27] NevDull: Gotta error-check it though, or you get "Mature women looking to take out YOUR teeth." [15:27] ;) [15:27] hi bluespade..whats up man? [15:27] it was called adultspidercandy and the se's made it go outa buziness LOL [15:28] heya gecko [15:28] oke who wants a drink??? [15:28] of... [15:28] me!!! [15:28] always stuveltje [15:28] Bratt make a page of just words in a list form then cut and paste them and make text links it can be fun game to even play with your parnter [15:28] me!!!!!! [15:28] back.. sorry [15:28] lol MrMaryLou [15:28] play with your partner [15:29] partner... that means more work for me tho [15:29] :p [15:29] what i did not too long ago MML was i took ALL my keywords, for ALL my niches, and put them in one text file, called it All_words [15:29] Dont Laugh I have done it [15:29] ok .. Bratt ... for your writing... have you tried writing something totally different? I mean at the oppositie end of things so you have to get a new "mindset" for it? :) [15:29] everything from sex to a ? [15:29] oke on your way...lol [15:30] no, i haven't tried that Rowdy [15:30] Ask a friend to make up setences using the words you want used [15:30] haa i think its all the same for every site, everthing goes in the pussy or ass or mouths, dick or something else [15:30] stuveltje: Yep only so many innies and so many outies [15:30] just an idea... when adult sites "get to me" I'll play a bit on a mainstream site or a "personal" site just so I have to "switch" gears :) [15:30] i did that the other night in here MrMaryLou, it was actually funny.. should have seen what some of the ppl in this chatroom came up with [15:30] see [15:31] we had a blast [15:31] Yeah.Gotta get the dick and pussy together, then :updown: :updown: [15:31] hhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahaha [15:31] * security_man wonders if mrm is speeking spanish [15:31] that was actually fun bratt [15:31] it was AndyEm [15:31] yup [15:31] nevdull:updown: [15:31] * security_man thinks see is yes in spanish isnt it? [15:31] i had one heck of a text file in the end [15:31] The site name game? [15:31] Make up new words.."he plunged his farctious multiplod into her squenching vilitator" [15:31] waaaaaaaa??? [15:32] lol [15:32] until the next day when someone decided to ask for goatsex titles :p [15:32] LOL Lassiter [15:32] its just madlibs for adults :) [15:32] lassi you okay? [15:32] usually when I'm burnt out I crack open a bottle of Jack... and things happen and hey they look great lol [15:32] Llama Titles, Kre8t0r. [15:32] no, Kre8t0r, it was Llamasex [15:32] oops [15:32] Blue_Spade: Not sure :) [15:32] LOL [15:32] sorry my bad [15:32] lol [15:32] Llamas!!! [15:32] hahaha stop now, i choke almost [15:32] LOL [15:32] but hey, we came up with over 400 titles for one niche in less than two hours [15:32] oh gawd not the llammas again! [15:32] LOL [15:32] How many Llama titles did we come up with? [15:32] Lesbian midget llamas [15:33] The llamas was a spin off of bratts quest for 630 BSB titles [15:33] Llama Llabia [15:33] it WAS fun [15:33] pfffffffffffffff [15:33] international hous of llamas [15:33] LOL [15:33] making lines is always fun [15:33] maybe we should haev a time for titles? [15:33] lol NevDull [15:33] Llickin Llamas [15:33] title-hour [15:33] lol [15:33] lol [15:33] tit hour?? [15:33] Humping Llamas [15:33] llama-llovin' lladies [15:33] gecko.. didn't I see you mention you're fighting burn out? What's the source.. [15:33] sorry.lol [15:34] but asking in the channel i have found works really well for ideas [15:34] We should have brainstorm sessions in here one night a week, alternating making up names for different people. [15:34] and breaks things up too [15:34] yeah, speeking of burnout - the llama thing is burnning me out right now >:) [15:34] im up for it nev [15:34] ;) [15:34] i only would laugh bratt that wull burn me out [15:34] Hot Llama Llips burning you out, security_man? [15:35] oh goddddd [15:35] oh no! [15:35] i LOVE LLAMAS! [15:35] yukkkkkkkk [15:35] oh oh [15:35] I like to go to the gym during the day time when I get burnt out [15:35] shame on you [15:35] The Cock That Broke the Llama's Back? [15:35] An all-llama llink llist, anyone? [15:35] 3years doing the same things rowdy [15:35] OK... i'M BACK.. SORT OF.. HEHEHE [15:35] and the fact i dont have a life beyond this pc [15:35] hahahahahaha [15:35] I go every morning at 4 am but the day time offers a whole different selection of people [15:35] wb Kaiser [15:35] oops.. sorry bout the caps [15:36] gecko watch out for that [15:36] gecko... have you tried any diversification.. or even a "break" if ya need one? [15:36]