[15:13] *** Rowdy changes topic to '~*\!/*~ Welcome to Netsurprise! -NEWBIE CHAT NOW - Today is Wednesday - Feburary 19th 2003 ~*\!/*~ -- Adult Webmasters Only!!! ' [15:13] i think i fixed mine !!! [15:13] days are too damn short [15:13] Thanks Rowdy [15:13] Kre8t0r.. made a big difference here :) [15:13] tell me aobut it kre [15:14] kool think i'll do it now [15:14] i have been fighting with that for awhile now [15:14] Who's had problems with IE on image downloads or even start up load times? [15:14] i'll be in in a sec [15:14] cussing the whole way [15:14] and they get even shorter wehn you oversleep - i am so damned behind right now >:( [15:14] hmmm ya nekkid sass? [15:14] :p [15:14] hehehe [15:14] lol [15:14] ummm ya LOL [15:14] oke what are we talking about??? [15:14] she was takin a bath so i had too [15:14] http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=810978 will help ya solve the problems :) [15:15] bath who, me too [15:15] no sassy [15:15] thanx rowdy that might help me :) [15:15] It will security_man ... made a big difference here [15:15] just follow through on it all :) [15:16] Todays chat - Steps to a successful site building: [15:16] (brief outline) [15:16] will do manno [15:16] oke i will go then ..... just joking [15:16] wb Ron [15:16] wb Ron [15:16] wb ron [15:16] lol stuveltje [15:16] ty..that was strange:) [15:16] wow microsoft has a 9/10 go figure :p [15:16] hehehe [15:16] lol [15:17] I have a list of very basic steps to glance at for everyone... it's probably to basic for the majority but sometimes basics can be a good thing as well :) [15:17] throw out that url again, Rowdy, if you will... [15:17] http://adultplaces.com/netsurprise/sitebuilding.txt [15:17] well security_man helped me out with background, i feel so a shamed i didnt know.lol [15:17] this wont cause me to loose saved passwords will it Rowdy? [15:17] Ron... IE6 problems - http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=810978 [15:18] what is with IE6 [15:18] i use it [15:18] it sux [15:18] Kre8t0r.. only if you delete cookie based ones.... just getting rifd of the unknown and/or damaged will help [15:18] :p [15:18] rofl - we all feel that wy stuveltje :) [15:18] ok kool thanx [15:18] ok who missed me hehehe [15:18] i did!! [15:18] stuveltje.. that url just tells how to clean some problem causing things [15:18] thanks Rowdy [15:18] woohoo lol [15:18] good list btw [15:18] hi ReverendSassy [15:18] oke that would make me feelbettersecurity_man.lol [15:19] I totally agree with all of it [15:19] no problem Ron :) [15:19] :) [15:19] thanks [15:19] and I am back [15:19] oke no problems for me, [15:19] heyas Rowdy [15:19] i think.... [15:20] oke talk i am waiting [15:20] * security_man sings guess whos back.... back again... spadeys back... tell a freind... [15:20] lol [15:20] how the hell do you do that?????? [15:20] lol [15:21] do what stuveltje? [15:21] that line [15:21] My name is? [15:21] stuveltje just type /me and whatever [15:21] what? [15:21] did everyone see the "basic list" http://adultplaces.com/netsurprise/sitebuilding.txt [15:21] My name is? [15:21] how does bratt thro balloons and that things, f*ck need to learn more about mirc [15:21] huh? [15:21] Slime Spadey [15:22] lol [15:22] lol [15:22] Yup, I have that url open now :) [15:22] hahahhaha i like that blue_spadey [15:22] sorry, yeah i saw it rowdy :) [15:22] Preplanning can go a long way in site building and sales. [15:22] it's critical, actually [15:23] without it, you depend on luck [15:23] Absolutely [15:23] palanning?!?! what is the strange witchcraft of which you speek? [15:23] Kinda wondering around in space, lol [15:23] good thing I have my lucky rabbits foot with me [15:23] lol security_man [15:23] yep [15:23] lol The_Real_Blue_Spadey [15:24] i thought i was supposed to win content at ans and then put it onto free sites... you know the amateur stuff promoting a BBW site and the fetish stuff promoting hairsuite - am i off on this?!?! >:) [15:24] heyas EclectiXXX [15:24] hi EclectiXXX [15:24] Most newbie's I see also don't realize the big difference in types of sites and stratrgies for them. [15:24] hya exlectixxx [15:24] hey EclectiXXX [15:24] Hi EclectiXXX [15:24] lmfao security_man [15:24] true Frank [15:24] ./ban security_man [15:25] Hiya folks! [15:25] ;) [15:25] cant ban security_man [15:25] hes the bouncer!!! [15:25] lol [15:25] yeah i cant bounce myself outa here LOL [15:25] lol [15:25] heeee meee the greeni ebouncher [15:25] * security_man grabs himslef by the scruff of the neck - "alright funny boy time to go!" [15:25] roflmao [15:26] hey Tommy [15:26] hahahaha i like those lines [15:26] hi Tommy-I [15:26] hi Tommy-I [15:26] olla [15:26] hya tommy-I [15:26] * TwiceShy peeks [15:26] you've done this before huh security_man [15:26] twiceshyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [15:26] hey TwiceShy! [15:26] brb... someone at the door [15:26] Hiya TwiceShy [15:26] yeah i get too rowdy for my own tastes sometimes LOL [15:26] kick them away rowdy [15:26] hey ts, tommy :) [15:26] hey Tommy-I [15:26] hello all [15:27] hi Frank :O) [15:27] heya ts [15:27] hi all....what's news? [15:27] heta Tommu [15:27] TwiceShy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:27] dont winkie at frank tw.lol [15:27] wow what language was that bluespade? [15:27] >:) [15:27] lol [15:27] <-- will more than wink at Frank stuveltje [15:27] lol [15:27] lol [15:27] i know tw. [15:27] I understood it [15:27] and thats all that matters :) [15:28] of crouse! [15:28] :updown;:updown; twiceshy [15:28] lol [15:28] * TwiceShy Frank will bein Canada in a few days [15:28] rofl [15:28] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [15:28] good times [15:28] * security_man is sending a warning to canada - FRANK ALERT! CODE BLUE!!! [15:28] hehe [15:28] lol [15:28] lol [15:28] lol [15:28] you go girl [15:29] back :) [15:29] wb rwdy [15:29] Understanding the purposes of each type of site and what the difference is in market them is also crutial. [15:29] oops rowdy [15:29] ty [15:29] LOL, yup, will be my first time in Canada [15:29] wb Rowdy [15:29] tell me about it frank i cant sell babes but he fetish or strange LMAOOOOOOo [15:30] anything thats more niche speciffic will do better in ratio imo [15:30] <-- seems to have a way of selling Facials/cumshot sites [15:30] Do we first have any site building questions? [15:30] yeah right if you gonna look how canada is frank you ahave twiceshy to focus on [15:30] lol TwiceShy [15:30] * security_man gets response from canada - "we are evacuating - tell arkansas to do the same before he gets back" >:) [15:30] hahahahaha [15:30] Oh, no doubt there stuveltje [15:30] lol security_man [15:31] lol [15:31] lol im gonna lock him in a closet and feed him once a week [15:31] I have to make an announcement!I have succesfully made $3.34 in the avs game! [15:31] hahah ouchhhhh hard times frank.lmaoo [15:31] The_Real_Blue_Spadeyhey its a start [15:32] wow man - youve outsold me by about 333% well done! [15:32] oke stop that now blue_spadey i am laughing [15:32] hell yea it is . . . get up security_man! [15:32] anyone have a suggestion for a good movie ripper program that extracts jpegs and changes formats [15:32] im workin on it LOL [15:32] basically does it all [15:32] Cool Deal Blue_Spadey, we all started somewhere :) Hope there's much more to come for ya :) [15:32] avs dont work for me free sites do, i will make avs do, from my free sites [15:33] yea, I have the master plan and I now understand the circle of life [15:33] awemawack awemawack... [15:33] lol security_man [15:33] ohhhh ohhh ohhhhhh [15:33] Tommy-I, actually we had some discussion on that from a few people last Monday... [15:33] :) [15:34] sorry i missed it Frank [15:34] stopguys i cant stop laughing [15:34] ;) [15:34] any proggy come out as #1? [15:34] I don't do any movie stuff myself but there was a lot of good info and url's passes out [15:34] Frank didn't we decide on about 2-3 programs? [15:34] Ulead [15:34] is it archived somewhere? [15:34] Virtualdub [15:34] I think that Ulead Media Studio or something was recommended. [15:34] lol The_Real_Blue_Spadey thats bc u have good mentors around u ;) [15:34] Yup, ULead was the Top I think :) [15:35] heeeee nevdull [15:35] we WANT u to do well [15:35] I like ULead [15:35] cool [15:35] nevdull - dayum when did you sneek in :) [15:35] Hola, stuveltje. [15:35] thanks [15:35] hell yes, I am gonna set up a fun for ANS [15:35] security_man:I idle in here all the time. [15:35] fun = fund [15:35] :) [15:35] Tommy.. ask dokk on the main ANS board... that man knows it all :) [15:35] We have NewbieChats archived in the Newbie Zone when we update Tommy-I [15:35] lol. i didnt see you come in indeed security_man [15:35] pay for Kre's lunch [15:35] I'm at my day job, and on via my home PC via Remote Desktop, actually. [15:35] wh o paid for it [15:35] This is true to. Dokk would know :) [15:36] i have ULead so I should probably dig it out and start playing around with it [15:36] i luv remote desktop NevDull [15:36] dokk knows everything - hes a porographic renissaunce man! [15:36] wow, what a words security_man:wow: [15:36] got 5 years in the biz myself [15:36] Another aspect of site building is... What is the purpose of the site? [15:36] Will this be for direct sales to a sponsor, upsells to an [15:36] AVS, a traffic generation site, a filter for present traffic, [15:36] a surfer trap and so on. [15:36] Going to the ANS website over Remote Desktop kills me, tho.Too many animated GIFs. [15:36] this is for some new content i'm trying to put together [15:37] Dokk is the man tho [15:37] i am getting confused now what are we talking about now??? [15:37] Site Implementation [15:38] what's implementation? [15:38] Either that or crack pipes. [15:38] be specific in your goals and put the design on paper first....least i do sometimes [15:38] i think way too many newbies get caught in the trap of thinking that a free site can only do one thing - they dont realise that those little free sites are just traffic engines and they can put that traffic wherever they want to [15:38] hahahahaha [15:38] lol stuveltje, we can talk about anything if one has questions. But the topic is step to successful site building. [15:38] "putting into action" [15:38] If you design on paper, then aren't you putting too much into pre-implementation? [15:38] Absolutely security_man....... [15:38] yes frank but i see any topic now [15:38] I guess for a premium AVS, maybe, but... [15:38] hi Ramster [15:38] Ramster:updown: [15:39] howdy ramster :) [15:39] can i join the conversation? [15:39] just layout...and lists of possible sponsors [15:39] hey all. lost me cable connection for an hour. :( [15:39] heeee alex-go [15:39] not design so much [15:39] :) [15:39] Most people think in dollar values and sales and not "traffic flow" and such. There's "value" in everything. [15:39] what r we talking about? [15:39] Hiya Ramster :) [15:39] traffic = power [15:39] site building alex [15:39] hi Frank [15:39] cool [15:39] "Steps To Successful site building" [15:39] without traffic the best site in the world won't make a dime [15:39] or what frank said :) [15:40] how true [15:40] most newbies dont start free sites they start tgp and then nag because they use to much bandtwide and got no sale [15:40] and with a shitload of traffic the worst site in the world can make money, tommy :) [15:40] i started a free site with a free host [15:40] and thus freesites were born LOL [15:40] absolutley true [15:40] <-- wants Traffic to me traffic = $$ sales [15:40] Very true stuveltje which brings use back to "Step #1". You need to at least know a bit about what you plan on doing. [15:40] i am not agree with that security_man, i found my first site in archive hell that sucks , still be a shamd [15:41] some of the best advice i got was: "your brand new - stay away from tgp till you know what your doing" [15:41] yup [15:41] yep [15:41] even when you know, it's hard [15:41] i startd with free sites when i joined the net , i am not good at tgp [15:41] no hun unless your ready to play for real [15:41] and i thank god every day that i took that advice :) [15:42] <-- is gonna do tgp once i get a sewcond hosting box here thenit gonna be just for tgp's [15:42] I just don't like the laaw of averages in tgp, lol [15:42] btw i still do free sites, my kind of thing [15:42] i still dont wanna fuck with tgp - i just recently decided to expand from free sites LOL [15:42] right now bw is cheap at least to try it, but should know what you're doing before hand [15:42] i got in 2 days 497000 unique click on a amateur tgpand 1 fucking sale [15:42] and ive been in this for over two years! [15:42] tgp is for a brand new fetish or niche that you have planned and are ready to send thousands of hits to [15:43] Yea, if you're on a inexpensive hosting plan you could try it...... [15:43] Ramsterfor me idont worry bout bw ..just want to make sure the box can take it [15:43] hehehehe i used free host.lol.:updown [15:43] ouch [15:43] one can gamble straight out.. or take a bit of time to learn things and at least improve the ods when they do decide to gamble :) [15:43] how do u get that many traffic? [15:43] your own host TwiceShy! [15:43] yes [15:43] tgp alex, tgp [15:43] Negative side is to really make anything you need those "multi-thousands" of daily hits and burn a LOT of bw. lol [15:43] the hun, al4 some biggies [15:43] Ramster i do all my own hosting now [15:43] hey marie! [15:43] you mean you post on tgps? [15:43] Hi Marie [15:43] Marieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [15:43] sell it yet too? [15:43] or you make one's? [15:44] Hi security_Man, Hi Rowdy :) [15:44] not yewt [15:44] yet [15:44] ok [15:44] hi erika [15:44] Hi stulveltje :) [15:44] the big ones, did o dont like tgp [15:44] will be soon tho [15:44] <|erika|> hiya rowdy [15:44] <|erika|> :) [15:44] Hi CheekyMarie and erika [15:44] <|erika|> hi frank [15:44] thats how you get traffic like they were talking about and awefull ratios LOL [15:44] Hi Frank :)) [15:44] hya erika [15:44] <|erika|> hi stu [15:44] <|erika|> :) [15:44] what do u think of tgp2 is it dead or what? [15:44] traffic ig great but you need to learn to convert it. Hone your sales skills [15:44] all tgp sucks my 2 cnts:lol: [15:44] its about as dead as it can be to me, but kre is here so i wont say that ... oh shit [15:44] lol stuveltje [15:45] alex-go, in the tgp game there's many tgp's that can send 10,000+ hits a day. The Hun, you could get 100,000+ [15:45] search engine traffic is my main source of quality traffic....i don't tgp at all anymore [15:45] why don't you use pay per click? [15:45] ekkkk the hun [15:45] a little too risky right now for me alex [15:45] the hun aint worth shit anymore [15:45] bin there did that sucks [15:45] tgp's don't bring me traffic [15:45] free sites oohhhhhhhh free sites gooooooodddd [15:45] thehun rocks! but with a wrong sponsor it does suck. [15:45] I submit to the hun and it works for me when I get listed the $$$ are nice when they come in :) [15:46] For free stuff alex 'profit wise" paying for things usually isn't to feasible and still make money. [15:46] ReverendSand, my coverts with him are way lower now too [15:46] yep i use a gay sponsor and a ducth sponsor did good but he 497.000 uniqyes i sale????? [15:46] hun with a new fetish kicks fuckin ass....but he will shut your server down if your not prepared [15:46] unless of course you have a good bankroll and understanding of the way ppc works [15:46] hun ducth me dutch [15:46] i know hi, [15:46] yea, those girl fucking guy posts are racking up the big bucks [15:47] so I have heard [15:47] i have about 500 uniques a day and i use a per e-mail signup and i haven't made any signups in five days!! [15:47] i heard that too. doing good really I wonder? [15:47] last time I submitted I had 120k hits and made over $US1000.00 so I was happy with that :) [15:47] i hit him with the fuck machines a few years ago [15:47] did great for a while [15:47] fucking machines rock [15:47] CHeekymarie, that's great! [15:47] i make good money from that site [15:47] lol fucking machines are awesome [15:47] even the hun post on his site people click the sponsor banners, it is going bad [15:48] alex, well, we'd have to look at your stuff to see if there may be a issue somewhere.... [15:48] he always did that [15:48] oke who does gloryhole [15:48] yet, those email things are old news these days....... and....... [15:48] tellin ya...get the right page and sell it right and the hun will produce [15:48] something else many people don't realize is this....... [15:48] what... [15:48] lol [15:48] yea... [15:49] but, you know, most of my traffic comes from israel and i'm not happy with that...how can i get serious usa traffic? [15:49] With some of those programs if someone signed up for one email elsewhere and then another with you. You may not get credit. [15:49] lol hey Frank is typing with 2 fingers [15:49] hahaha tw [15:49] bad you tw [15:49] Ramster I think it depends on what niche/category you are pushing as well ... but he with the reviewers he has there now - they are pickier than he was [15:49] he will punish you for that in canada... [15:49] lol [15:49] * Frank always has to type with 2 fingers, lol [15:49] alex-go.. learn how to play toplists to exchange the trafic [15:49] yes they are. I actually got an email 2 days for a gallery approval. 1st one in 3 weeks. [15:49] hmmm we have a site going up in the next couple of days Steve had one approved for the overload so that won't go as well but who knows lol :) [15:50] frank thinks "home keys?!?! we dont need no stinking HOME KEYS!!!" [15:50] rowdy stop that an other project for me toplist your fault.:wink: [15:50] lol [15:50] :) [15:50] forums , groups and stuff like that are good places to drop links as well [15:51] i am working my butt of but the 35 hour net will not ne there for awhile.lol [15:51] TopList sites can be cool if understood and setup properly. [15:51] oh gawd not toplists again!! i just got myself refocused on what i need to do - dont get me started on thinking about toplists again!! [15:51] lol [15:51] lol [15:51] tolists are a GREAT source of traffic I recommend everyone (security_man) to try them . . . [15:51] see rowdy stop it [15:52] * security_man thinks - was that a hint? [15:52] lol [15:52] how exactly do you play them? [15:52] stay on topic and toplist can produce good traffic [15:52] But don't get your brain cluttered with to many things going on at once, lol [15:52] oh shit here we go... [15:52] oke pauze, brb [15:52] lol [15:52] they also help push up your ranking on Yahoo [15:53] how many people here have thought about using macros to help build their FREE SITES! :) [15:53] I want to hire a midget [15:53] macros? [15:53] its something that boodrow and i just started doing and it helps ALOT [15:53] midgets is kewl [15:53] who's a macro [15:53] macros? [15:53]