[15:15] busy day here.. how's it going for everyone else? [15:15] i have been busy busy busy for two days now Rowdy [15:15] :) [15:15] all of a sudden, since bratt's links went live, i dont' seem to have enough hours in the day [15:15] there is ALWAYS something to get done [15:16] I'm very busy but with everything except my web stuff, dammit :< [15:16] bummer Lassiter.. I have plenty of non web stuff to do but no time to do it in :) [15:16] tell me about it Rowdy, we have company from Downs, Ill coming on Friday [15:17] Bratt... it's fun :) Be sure to send me an e-mail and get your site on pictureplaces.com as well :) [15:17] I hear ya, Rowdy.I'm in the opposite corner, 'cause I have to give priority to what's actually paying the bills, and it ain't web commerce quite yet LOL [15:17] Bratt.. only a few miles from me :) [15:17] yup! [15:17] Plus we had out of town guest all last week too etc. etc. [15:17] what is your email [15:18] Hi NevDull! [15:18] Heya, guys. [15:18] Lassiter .. but on the down side... like the day the worm hit.... my money flow went "bam" lol.... [15:18] hi NevDull [15:18] Just read on the board to drop by this server. [15:18] Ow, Rowdy...yeah that really sucked for everyone [15:18] nm i found it [15:19] We lost our DSL late Sat. nite as the worm hit.DSL was back by Sat. morning but 1/2 the net was inaccessible. [15:19] oops... sorry Bratt.. missed that first time around :) [15:19] er I mean Friday night we lost DSL [15:19] hehehe, it is on the site [15:19] yep.. it's on there.. no submit forms.. people want to trade traffic.. they can e-mail me...lol [15:19] ok, I'm back [15:19] wb Frank [15:20] Hi NevDull [15:20] wb Frank [15:21] Had to inform everyone where we are today, lol [15:22] Not alot of folks around [15:23] Yea, wonder what's up with that? heheMaybe there all lost still tryin' to get in at webmasterlive :( [15:23] possible Frank [15:23] I changed the event reminer link to. But I dunno how many actually look at it.LOL [15:23] all sent Rowdy.. you will have email [15:23] Looks like im the special one in the channel [15:23] =) [15:23] hey security_man [15:23] hiya security_bro ;) [15:23] hehe juso [15:24] weeelll - that was an adventure LOL [15:24] Hiya security_man [15:24] hey... with the weather getting weirder and weirder every year, I'm actually wondering if enought heat will hit this year to keep people inside and on their computers.... it would be nice to have some extra traffic flowin through all those hub pages :) [15:24] hi security_man [15:24] hey brat, lass, frank, and rowdy [15:24] hi Paparazzi [15:24] hi Paparazzi [15:24] Hi Paparazzi [15:24] hi guys! [15:24] cool Bratt [15:25] Very true Rowdy. I hate the cold but it would be nice to have a extended winter. [15:25] tried to connect for like 10min before to webmasterlive :) [15:25] i dont think winter is ever going to come to texas - we have been below freezing two whole days this year - and that was just the low at night.its gonna be hell with the fireants and mosquitos this summer :( [15:26] Yea, webmasterlive is going through a server move at the moment. [15:26] you getting a storm there Rowdy? I talked to my daughter in Iowa and she said they had freezing rain and a snow storm right behind it [15:26] yepp, just saw your post frank [15:26] hey daNk [15:26] security_man: Fortunately, Austin has its huge bat population to help keep the skeeters under *some* control [15:26] That's kind the way it is here security_man. It's been a bit colder than you, but we don't have many bad winters here anymore it seems. [15:27] thems some FAT bats LOL [15:27] Oh yeah ;) [15:27] Hey there daNk [15:27] had a little snow last night Bratt... nothing major and it's not real bad out now ... might even be in the 20's lol [15:27] there was a plan somewhere in texas to relese a bunch of bats to control the killer bees or something like that - i love bats - they do all kinds of good round here LOL [15:28] Anyone have any new and exciting things to share today? [15:28] The Hudson's got plenty of ice now. [15:28] lol... brrrrrrrrr Rowdy\ [15:28] i thought ice came from the freezer >:) [15:28] rofl security_man [15:28] lol [15:28] Bats are way cool [15:28] not where Rowdy lives.... [15:29] Maybe my freezer's name is The Hudson. [15:29] it actually stays frozen OUTSIDE?i though outside was where you cooked your eggs on the sidewalk [15:29] the only thing new with me Frank is that Bratt's Links is live now [15:29] :-) [15:29] whats the url bratt? [15:29] Newlink list, Bratt? [15:29] http://www.brattslinks.com [15:29] Yea, I saw the announcement. Very cool! I hope it does well for you! [15:29] yup Lassiter [15:30] Cool...ya can never have too many places to submit to ;) [15:30] Looks good Bratt! [15:30] Hi baby! :) [15:30] Hi TwiceShy! [15:30] hi bratt, hi frank [15:30] heya Lassiter [15:30] hey a daNk [15:30] hi TwiceShy [15:30] hey shy [15:30] HugZ* Frank [15:30] ty Lassiter [15:30] WoooooooHoooooo [15:30] Anyone have any insite on tgp posts with and without cj? [15:30] Some HTML "buttons" might be a good idea, Bratt. [15:30] hey howdy ho twiceshy :) [15:30] brb [15:31] Wow...I think I'm tripping :) [15:31] heya security_man [15:31] wb Paparazzi [15:31] what do you mean html buttons [15:31] damn my isp sucks [15:31] hey TS... i did what you suggested last night to Bratt's links!!!!! [15:31] For the recips... [15:31] Good stuff [15:31] Hi MrMaryLou! [15:31] I don't do tgp myslf juso. But I'm sure the folks on the tgp board can help you out :) [15:31] good afternoon MrMaryLou [15:31] heya MrMaryLou [15:31] Thanks Rowdy :) [15:31] Hey MrMaryLou! [15:31] howdy mrm :) [15:32] so who killed the server [15:32] lol [15:32] Hello all been trying to get here for a while LOL [15:32] hehehehehe [15:32] hi everyone [15:32] Hi FantasyplanetX! [15:32] Frank did you get my email? [15:32] "I killed the server, but I did not kill the IRC" [15:33] Sure did Fantasyplanet. Glad all is takin' care of :) [15:33] and do you know who Scott is? [15:33] huuummmm, no I don't think so why? [15:33] you know these chats really do break up the day nicely - right bout the time i get tired of doing one thing all morning there is a chat and after i can go back to what i was doing and not go nuts LOL [15:34] lol, when i saw your pic on ANS, i could not think of who you looked like, me and Kre were talking one day and it hit me the Actor Scott Glen you look EXCATCLY like him when he had long hair [15:34] who wants to come help me move the furniture today ? [15:34] * security_man is on his way to canada [15:35] glad to help MrMaryLou :) [15:35] Cool security_man [15:35] lol i need the help [15:35] Avoiding the draft, security_man? [15:35] ;) [15:35] * security_man then realizes how FUCKING cold it is and runs back to texas LOL [15:35] rofl! [15:35] * TwiceShy is now the proud tenant of a 2 bedroom place LOTS of room now [15:35] lol security_man [15:35] LOL FantasyPlanet. Actually I heard that before. Also in my younger days with my beard I was told I looked like Chuck Norris, lol [15:36] Two bedroom MMM [15:36] i know chuck norris - he taught me karate [15:36] <-- finnallyhas a office again [15:36] lol well i didn't see chuck but deff Scott Kre freaked when i showed him a pic of Scott [15:36] WooHoo TwiceShy! You go baby. I'm sure you are going to enjoy it :) (I get my own room now) LOL [15:36] nice guy but cocky, reaaaal cocky LOL [15:36] LOL Frank I DONT think soyou have a place in my room :P~~ [15:37] How sales going for everyone this month? [15:37] * TwiceShy has made a recip button for that to Rowdy just havent added it to my site yet [15:37] wow net is like a turtle today :( i'm trying to pull up imdb taking forever [15:38] Huummm, I haven't been having any problems thus far Fantasy [15:38] very very good Frank - trippled profit from last month offically last night :)) [15:38] Cool security_man [15:38] well i guess its just imdb then [15:38] you aint bullshittin' there TS LOL [15:38] LOL i guess im doing ok ican move to a bigger place [15:38] And now you're going to share with us how you tripled it? :) [15:39] come to think of it i have been grabbing plugins all day wihth no probs lol [15:39] Cool deal. I've has a decent months thus far. But still nothing like last Jan. and the Jan. before. [15:39] brb [15:39] build a site and submit it every day nevdull ;) [15:39] Yup, continual building NewDull [15:40] Each site is another brick in your porn castle. [15:40] last jan i wasnt doing much so i cant compare Frank - all i gots is last months stats :( [15:40] If 100 sites are doing good for ya, 300 will do even better :) [15:40] no secret to it - when i realized that i started makin' money LOL [15:41] Very true. There's no sectrets in this biz. Just a daily building and learning process. [15:41] Frank: and coffee [15:41] but i don't drink coffe personally= ) [15:41] My belief is if one will take 1 year and build a site a day they should be able to be fulltime in that year possibly. [15:41] Oh yea, gotta have coffee,LOL [15:41] i think the magic number is 100 free sites - thats when i was making enough to go full time and tackle some other methods like AVS [15:42] Juso: You are at a competititive disadvantage without caffeine ;) [15:42] lol [15:42] haah [15:42] haah [15:42] 100 different sites mirrored 4 or 5 times? [15:42] magic number? LOL No such thing other than the number that takes you over the amount you owe limit....lol [15:42] soda= ) [15:42] i hate coffee [15:42] Well said Rowdy ;) [15:43] Yea, and it usually takes about 100 or so to really start getting a bit of a grasp and get through that first learning curve. [15:43] OK: Jolt cola will help ya succeed too juso ;) [15:43] actually those 100 sites had mirrored entrance pages and got traffic from abuot 80 linklists each but thats all the mirroring i did - till now [15:44] Just build untill your fingers bleed then build some more [15:44] lol [15:44] hehe [15:44] thats what i do [15:44] now im going back and mirroring those 100 sites to avs sites while new freesites are being made by my partner [15:44] i got 5 sites done in last 2 weeks [15:44] Lassiter: i hardly sleep anyways=P [15:44] I am lost if I don't put at least a site out a day. It's just a habit anymore. [15:44] 2 pays 1 free 1 corprate 1 mainstream [15:44] juso: You're on yer way then LOL [15:44] thats a good habit to be in Frank :) [15:45] security_man [15:45] My mainstream site is almost done... [15:45] do me a fav [15:45] Twice shy [15:45] yes? [15:45] pinch Boodrows ass jusy once for mecuz hes been so helpful to me :O) [15:46] hehehe - no problem girl - i do it all the time anyway - oh shit did i type that outloud >:) [15:46] LOL [15:46] Where is Boodrow? Not playing "the spook" role and hiding on us again is he? LOL :) [15:46] Are the 20 pics (2 x 10) that everyone says to use on freesites really gonna cut it for AVS? [15:46] its out now security_man [15:47] nope he is at work right now - we make enough for me to be full time but not him yet [15:47] NevDull: Basic AVS sites usually want 30 pics minimum [15:47] NevDull, you do AVS differently.... [15:47] depends on the avs nevdull [15:47] Just make 1 extra gallery page & yer there [15:47] Actually, do your AVS first then take out pics for your free sites. [15:47] fnp will let you do a site with just ten pics i think :\ [15:47] So ideally, design 3 x 10 sites? [15:47] NevDull .. depends... even thirty pics can work just has to have a better focus than some free sites imho [15:48] stuveltje good to see you [15:48] hiya stuveltje [15:48] expound on better focus rowdy, please :) [15:48] :O) [15:48] Hi stuveltje [15:48] howdy stuvltje :bounce: [15:48] Right, what Frank said.Make basic AVS sites w/ 3 gallery pages of 10 pics each, then take away the last gallery & you've got a free site, more or less. [15:48] haaaaaaaaa finally i get in i am busy 30 minutes to get in.lol [15:48] I had mentioned this before about AVS so I'll throw out a senario again.... [15:48] Something I've run into is that I've tried to make sure, per page, I had all pics oriented the same way.Makes layout easier.I dunno if I could get 30 good ones out of some of the sets I've bought. :) [15:49] better focus.. such as one girl, multiple sets... or a particular fetish instead of just a "genera" fetish site... generate a bit more interest type thing [15:49] If you do say a 5 gallery 200 pic Platinum AVS site.... [15:49] btw Hyaaaaaaa All , oke :updown:.lol [15:49] That's a TON of content a premade gallerys.... [15:49] or make two freesites with one gallery being shared - some linklists might not be cool with it but others prolly wont notice ;) [15:49] gotcha - so not focus on one sponsor per se but more focused content? [15:50] You can break that Plat site down into Preferred and Regular AVS sites, and also a TON of free sites too. All with the same content. [15:50] I can usually make 25 or so sites out of my first original Platinum site. [15:50] =/ [15:50] Hiya spookyx! [15:50] i am making my free sites to avs too about 130 but i dont use tmeplates [15:50] Hi spookyx [15:50] Long time no see [15:50] hey [15:50] hy spooky [15:51] Hi stuveltje!I did not see you come in! [15:51] hi spookyx [15:51] heya spookyx [15:51] well i hate to run off but i have another load of stuff to move [15:51] hyaaaaaaaa lassiter i have bounch my way in took me 30 minutes.lol [15:51] take care TwiceShy [15:51] talk to you later TS [15:51] cya ts - catch ya on the flip side girl :) [15:51] hey rowdy,bratt,Lassiter,Frank all [15:51] be careful with those stairs [15:51] BRATTTTTTTTT [15:52] always Bratt [15:52] See ya in a bit baby! Be careful :) [15:52] take care TwiceShy [15:52] didnt know you where here bratt [15:52] i am always here... lol [15:52] i will Rowdy thanks [15:52] naaaaaa.lol. :updown: [15:53] bya twiceshy [15:53] oke brb [15:53] just trying to figure out how to put a box on my site that has the code for an html link for me for those that dont' want to link with an image [15:53] i have the html button made, just dont' know how to get the code on the page for ppl to copy [15:53] i know it needs to go in a textbox of some sort, but cant' figure out how [15:53] 
[15:54]  i have always thought of the avs thing backwards - but if you go top down like frank said you can do one premium (300 pics) and of those 10 avs (30 pics *10 sits = 300 pix) and make 15 freesites (20 pics*15 sites= 300 pics) thats a good use of content there :)
[15:54]  A small form Bratt
[15:54]  you mean for people to see the code only?
[15:54]  back
[15:54]  Just like a warning box, just smaller, lol
[15:54]  
html shit here

[15:54]  bratt homesite will make the textbox for ya
[15:55]  i am using dreamweaver now
[15:55]  =\
[15:55]  security_man: And thats just assuming you dont duplicate any pics among the basic AVS or free sites ;)
[15:55]  You could check out the boxes in the Tips & Tricks section of the Newbie Zone and use one of those. Just size to taste.LOL
[15:55]  hmmm i think i have some work to do - you got my mind working now frank & lassiter :)
[15:55]  lol security_man
[15:55]  be afraid be very afraid... security_man's mind is working ;)
[15:56]  shit thats true to lass - you could concevably mix and match those gallerys to make even more free and avs sites couldnt you!
[15:56]  lol stop that guys i am laughing
[15:56]  bratt 
 
[15:56]  
 
[15:56]  security_man... If you did a Platinum AVS with 5 different 50 pic gallerys that's 5 Preferred AVS sites right there.
[15:56]  Yep ya could ;)
[15:56]  you can drop the name statement in that line
[15:56]  for REAL guys - i think i just had an eppifany 
[15:56]  You can then drop 20 pics and there's your regular AVS....
[15:56]  Frank: I'm trying to figure out the advantage to CA
[15:56]  eppifany??????????
[15:57]  er to CA's "preferred sites"
[15:57]  You can then change a few things and mirror them for other AVS's, plus free sites :)
[15:57]  sorry to here that security_man...maybe adult diapers will help that problem;)
[15:57]  not sure on the spelling stuvletje but it means an asstounding moment or realization that changes things :)
[15:57]  lol
[15:57]  how much content should it be on the hub pages?
[15:57]  security_man WOW it means that
[15:57]  Paparazzi.. you don't have to have any :)
[15:58]  I usually don't put content on hub except for maybe linked sponsor gallerys.
[15:58]  A basic CyberAge membership gives ya access to the preferred sites already... do ya make 'em just for the AVS link listings?
[15:58]  cool
[15:58]  hehe
[15:58]  Gotta run out for a while
[15:58]  see ya all
[15:58]  and it depends on how you are going to market the hub too - every now and again i put some content on one
[15:58]  cyberage dont take people from holland weeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhh
[15:58]  i always put a cemag email box on hubs:D
[15:58]  Paparazzi, a hub is to direct traffic to various places. Not to give out content.
[15:58]  Actually Frank, I use an FPA and then put the sponsor gallery link at the bottom of the FPA for the no thank slink just to let them reconsider the idea...lol
[15:58]  bya mrmarylou
[15:59]  Good point Rowdy. I do both...
[15:59]  so it's just to put up some ads and some links to my linklist to get better pr?
[15:59]  i have cemag to on the hub
[15:59]  Usually I don't do a fpa though if I get exit signups from the sponsor.
[15:59]  i think the newbie project should be the top down design for useing content rowdy!
[16:00]  i think the newbie project should be to convionce all the newbies to send all their traffic to spookys fpa's
[16:00]  LOL
[16:00]  security_man.. put that idea in the thread please on the board so it doesn't get overlooked :)
[16:00]  thanks Rowdy
[16:00]  lol
[16:00]  will do boss man :)
[16:00]  Anymore I'm beginning to get in the habit of opening my sponsor gallery above a page of mine.
[16:00]  Here's a hosted galleries question: Say I have several hosted galleries linked on my hub page.Is it kosher to put say, a single thumb from each gallery up on the page with a link to an FPA, followed by the link to the hosted gallery page?
[16:01]  i really REALLY like doing that frank :)
[16:01]  Sure lassiter :)
[16:01]  That way it would look like a content site, even though its really just a hub
[16:01]  i dont think there is a problem with it but i wouldnt do it - i dont want them to see stuff - i want them to READ stuff
[16:01]  Actually I am doing a hub with thumbnails myself for site links.
[16:01]  i got about 50 gahosted galleres from ars on my hub
[16:01]  slip of the fingers
[16:02]  security_man: I know whatcha mmean, but for those surfers who don't reed reel gud... ;)
[16:02]  I still think that the more "niche specific" a hub the better.
[16:02]  hehehe - yeah i can see a hub done that way and the benefits of it
[16:02]  my hub is now 4 weeks old and has page rank 2 not bat for a new site get hits from go nowogle 
[16:02]  Is the purpose to get better pr or make more sales?
[16:03]  I'm designing a new latina hub presently, soon to be followed by a new asian one.
[16:03]  I figure whatever grabs 'em by the nads is what ya should use ;)
[16:03]  yup just started playing with the niche specific hubs - i like what i see so far :)
[16:03]  but i am still working on my hub
[16:03]  Paparazzi: You can surely make sales off the hub. Yet, by filtering the traffic better via the hub that will help increase the chances of sales.
[16:05]  on my new domain i have a plan to make bunches of niche specific hubs and link them all together via a central hub - filter the filter ya know?
[16:05]  oh no..the Peers ate Frank!
[16:05]  my hub is a fake LL when i am ready for it , it has to be a real LL
[16:05]  lol
[16:05]  security_man i do that now.
[16:05]  wb Frank!
[16:06]  How do you mean filter the traffic via the hub Frank?
[16:06]  security_man: That's my goal too
[16:06]  i actually put a fake linklist page on all my sites - it gives em something else to click on if they see both galleries and dont buy
[16:06]  watch out... letmein might be a Frank imposter .... lol
[16:06]  wb btw frank :)
[16:06]  i did that too security_man 1450 pages hell what a work
[16:06]  Rowdy: If he prefers to be in the middle its really Frank. :)
[16:06] * security_man starts pulling on Franks face to see if it comes off to reveal... LETMEIN!! GASP!
[16:06]  lol
[16:06]  lol
[16:07]  heh
[16:07]  Paparazzi: Lets say you have a generic teen surfer. By sending them to a hub and providing them with other teen related links you could filter them into things like "teen amateur", "lesbian teens", "teen porn stars" or whatever.
[16:07]  i went nuts when i first thought about filtering LOL - you can see the results at 101fetishes.com it actually makes some money every now and then but definately not enough to offest the time it took to make LOL
[16:07]  I see
[16:08]  The point is to find what the surfer is "truly" the most interested in and send them to it.
[16:08]  Someone may not be interested in "teen models" but love "teen amateurs"
[16:08]  security_man: I't sll probably be good in the long haul tho
[16:08]  but the niche are hard i am great in sellingthe bizarre but babes i cant ell that
[16:09]  ok folks.. chat is about over but please visit the newbie board and keep the chat about the hub pages alive... I think there's really a lot more to learn that folks just haven't thought of yet :)
[16:09]  Yea, everyone has there own niches to sell...
[16:09]  I don't do well with babes and porn star stuff eother it seems.
[16:09]  cool beans yall - back to the coding mines as TDavid would say :)
[16:09]  lol. 
[16:09]  frank i am wth you
[16:09]  Yea, time flies.LOLIt's been a good chat even with the irc difficulties.
[16:10]  And of course, the link should hopefully go somewhere offering the niche it says it does... I hate those gallery lists that say "big tits" but they take you to a lesbian or pee site sponsor instead.Stupid, IMO
[16:10]  sucj as the fake "search engine " approach, mixing in mainstream products as well and how to do it without breaking terms and conditions and so forth
[16:10]  do you submit the hub pages to se:s or do they spider them auto?
[16:10]  i am outa here - cyall later
[16:10]  bye security_man!
[16:10]  Time for me to head out and get a few things done in town real quick.
[16:10]  bya security_man
[16:10]  Paparazzi.. both :)
[16:10]  Have a great day all and thanks for being here :)