[15:06] Hi everyone :) [15:06] howdy bratt and rowdy :) [15:07] How goes it Bratt [15:07] Hi Rowdy [15:07] good to see ya security_man [15:07] ty rowdy - good to be here LOL [15:07] Hiya Frank [15:07] Feeling any better yet Frank? [15:08] Still on meds Rowdy. It comes and goes. [15:08] Hope ya kick it soon [15:09] I have a followup appt on the 31st but I may go sooner. [15:09] Best of luck with it :) [15:09] Hi all [15:09] howdy lass [15:09] Hi Lassiter [15:09] Hi security_man, Frank ;) [15:10] hows life south of me? [15:10] Hey There Lassiter [15:10] Hi Bratt [15:10] Hi Lassiter [15:10] It got cold again, security_man :( [15:10] Hi Rowdy [15:10] yeah its cold here too - thank gawd - i hate heat [15:10] Yesterday was like summertime! [15:11] it's around 7 or so here :) [15:11] Not me, security_man.I'm looking forward to global warming LOL [15:11] lol hell just wait a couple of days itll be warm again - fuckin texas weather [15:11] hi Pablo [15:11] Thats the truth [15:11] Hi Pablo [15:11] howdy pablo [15:12] Hi Pablo [15:12] 7 degrees Rowdy?I think I'll stay right here ;) [15:12] Hello : - ) [15:12] yeah 7 is a bit colder than even i like LOL [15:12] supposed to hit 11 below 0 tonight [15:12] jezus! thats fuckin cold! [15:12] Hey There Pablo [15:12] I dunno...once it gets below, say 20 degrees, it's just f*ckin' cold! [15:12] lol [15:13] hey [15:13] i dont think i have ever seen it get below 0 here [15:13] 20 above would be warm here about now... just looked and with the wind, it's around 0 at the moment [15:13] cept wind chill [15:13] Dallas is way too far north for me ;) [15:14] it's -36 celcius here [15:14] think I'll stay "in" today personally...lol [15:14] lol oh yeah - us yankees dont know what heat is, right [15:14] rofl [15:14] Here it's like 77 today [15:14] daym pablo wheres here? [15:15] ya .. in the summer here we've hit 112 with 90% humidity... talk about a change in weather...lol [15:15] howdy mrmarylou :) [15:15] It was 82 here yesterday...tied the record high for the day.I think its around 55 now [15:15] Hiya MrMaryLou [15:15] Hello all [15:15] Home of the Super Bowl [15:15] San Diego, Ca [15:15] Great Pablo :) [15:15] we went from 75 yesterday to 31 today rowdy - we change like that daily LOL [15:15] won't see 70 for a few months yet here probably [15:15] Hi MrMaryLou [15:15] Ive got a friend living in San Diego, Pablo. Do you know... ah, never mind LOL [15:16] Hey Frank [15:16] Hi stuveltje [15:16] ok where is the buffet [15:16] Hi stuveltje [15:16] hummm [15:16] i think it just got more bouncy in here - howdy stuveltje :) [15:16] * Lassiter passes the brie and crackers to MrMaryLou [15:16] hyaaaa all wit for me i am in now:updown: and i know thatthis dont work here.lol [15:16] Hi stuveltje! [15:16] yep i am innnnnnnnnnnn. [15:17] lol! [15:17] hyaaaaaaaa brat lol [15:17] lol, damn [15:17] Thats pretty! [15:17] Hey Rowdy, did you ever get that favicon.ico issue fugured out???? [15:17] ty [15:17] wooooohaaaaa [15:17] i cant live without you guys and girls anymore [15:17] * security_man 's ears perk up at the word "buffet" [15:17] Hi physio! [15:17] buffet? [15:17] nope Pablo.. kinda got put on the backburner due to some other issues that arose [15:17] That damn thing pissed me off long enough [15:17] hi all! [15:17] Hi physio [15:17] physiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [15:18] howdy physio [15:18] my neighbor :) [15:18] always good to see ya stuveltje :) [15:18] :updown: [15:18] 13 ghosts is on . . . [15:18] Hyaaaaaaa rowdy [15:18] Rowdy I thought the chats were catered [15:18] LOL [15:18] lol [15:18] lol [15:18] now talk hub.lol [15:19] MrMaryLou: They've always been BYOB ;) [15:19] Yea, what about these hub pages [15:19] about hubs, what should be a minimum of sites/links on a hub ? [15:19] they are mrm - i guess you dont have the "sammich drive" installed yet [15:19] let me see some banner farms no I mean hubs [15:19] Hi EvilChris [15:19] It sounds to me like a link page [15:19] Hey There EvilChris [15:19] i am working on it now, and also tomorrow got so many ideas [15:19] Hi EvilChris! [15:19] it can be just about anything pablo [15:20] hyaaaa EvilChris, like the name [15:20] BYOF bring your own food LOL [15:20] Is it intended for search engines [15:20] the only rule is to make it so that you have more chances to sell something [15:20] hi EvilChris [15:20] howdy evilchris [15:20] Whassup! [15:20] How's it going all [15:20] well rowdy gave me some good advice on my hub did some things and immidiatly saw the changes [15:20] physio.. it depends on the layout... you can have a bunch, or a few, depending on how you market them [15:21] BYOC (Bring your own code /content / charm / catharsis) [15:21] its a good idea to optimise it for searchengines but the main purpose is to give an alternate to your surfers if they dont buy something [15:21] Doing OK EvilChris. We've been doing a "hub page" project on the Newbie Board. So if anyone has questions that's why we're here. hehe [15:21] Pablo.. more of a "filter" page or "catch " page for your own traffic :) [15:21] In reading the thread on the board, it sounded like a link page directing traffic to either more sites or directly to a sponser [15:21] Hub page...ah yes... [15:21] exactly Pablo .. one where you make the rules :) [15:22] That's true Pablo [15:22] hub, hubs, hubbys.lol [15:22] more or less [15:22] pop ups, blurs, new windows.. whatever goes as long as you want it :) [15:22] it feels grat to work your own way on the hub, your own rules.lol [15:22] fpas blind clicks - all the no no's - its actually kinda fun to be evil LOL [15:22] lol [15:23] "no rules" - i like that ;) [15:23] i have made some EVIL hubs in my day [15:23] i am evil, ......somethimes [15:23] lol [15:23] security_man: It's a way of working out all the evil desires that we have to keep in check due to the LL rules ;) [15:24] i got free sites wich i dont submit to the :: just to learn and play with pop up and all, and they are now in the ses [15:24] Hey There Bobbiekey [15:24] Hi Bobbiekey!!!!!!!1 [15:24] exactly i went nuts a couple of times, i heasitate to give the link to the really evil ones - dont wanna crash any browsers LOL [15:24] That's the point... be in control of your own trafic :) [15:24] hi Bobbiekey [15:24] howdy bobbiekey :) [15:24] BOBBIEKEY:: Hya Butterfly [15:24] Hi Bratt! Lassiter! Rowdy! security_man! stuveltje!!Everyone!!!! [15:24] :)) [15:24] Rowdy: Now if I could just be in charge of my own traffics' credit cards LOL [15:24] Hi Bobbiekey [15:24] Hi Ya Frank:: wave wave :: [15:25] lol bobbiekey:updown: [15:25] * Bobbiekey giggles... [15:25] we kindof are lassiter - we control their cocks and the cock controlls the brain which controlls the pocketbook LOL [15:25] i got dialers and all the no nos on the hub it feels great to be evil [15:25] lol Lassiter .. when you figure that one out... share :) [15:26] Rowdy: If I figure that one out I'll probably keep it to myself heh ;) [15:26] lol [15:26] lol lassiter [15:26] hi gecko [15:26] Hi gecko [15:26] hi gecko:) [15:26] its kindof funny tho - if you are too evil on a hub it might backfire [15:26] Well, it's nice chatting with you all, only had a few mins and I wanted to stop by. [15:27] cya pablo [15:27] Have a good one Pablo [15:27] howdy gecko [15:27] oke where gecko i missed some line here.lol [15:27] bye Pablo :) [15:27] Hey There gecko [15:27] byePablo [15:27] Take care, see ya , Rowdy, Frank, securityman and all of you. [15:27] bya pablo [15:27] Anyone have any specific hub questions? or any hubs they want reviewed? [15:28] well the pop ups [15:28] no hub yet Rowdy... but I've got it all planned out :) [15:28] :) [15:28] ok ok... [15:28] Havent done any further work on mine since my last newbie board post [15:28] i got so much panned out, but so damn lazy [15:28] i did what youn said rowdy change the pop up, and i get the same day bookmarkers on the hub instead of the free trial url [15:28] you lead the surfer from a site through an fpa to your hub.. correct? [15:29] I guess I do have a question though..asked it on the board but I think it got buried [15:29] sure bobbiekey [15:29] good deal stuveltje :) [15:29] so.. do you lead the surfer through an fpa to a site from your hub? [15:29] what's that Lassiter [15:29] so i wanna remove the pop ups all,wan tmy traffic on my hub [15:29] sure - if thats whatcha want :) [15:29] So do it [15:29] http://www.pussiporn.com/pussipornlinks.htmShould I go ahead and add more categories below and make it a long scroll page? [15:29] Bobbiekey.. I do in certain cases,,,, sponsors that don't pay on exit for example are a fpa ad instead of a direct link [15:29] not a good idea to have pop ups on a hub? [15:30] i am now trying to get the stuf in categorys [15:30] Or in other words, dy'a think hubs work better being shorter and tighter, or is a long scroll ok? [15:30] ohhh ok Rowdy... [15:30] it depends upon what your goal is with the hub bobbiekey [15:30] sometimes pop ups work... sometimes they don't .. all depends on the specific traffic the site using them gets [15:30] and maybe i wont used console urls, i spoke to someone who lost traffic by the consoles [15:30] brb folks I have a call [15:30] ok Frank [15:31] Lassiter, I think that's personal preferance as I prefer most of my sites be less scrolling overall [15:31] Are you all making general hubs ? [15:31] hi all [15:31] thats a goodlooking hub lassiter - very pretty :) [15:31] All kinds of hubs MrMaryLou :) [15:31] Rowdy: I was just thinking of pages like Greenguys or Tommies (or the Hun) where long scroll pages are the norm [15:31] well.. a big hub with a page for each niche... [15:31] oh okies [15:31] i want that my hub look exactly as a LL , then when i am ready for it i will make it a real LL, the domain is perfect for it [15:31] thanks security_man ;) [15:32] Lassiter, some folks have a lot of luck with a long page, I just prefer to get them in the habit of having to click to get what they want ... lol :) [15:32] sounds like a great idea stuveltje [15:32] what other kinds of hubs were you thinking mrm? [15:32] yes bobiekey , thats what i mean [15:32] what about to have the hub as an exit on my free sites, is it a good idea - think its kind of a circle, when the free sites are also on my hub ? [15:32] Nichie hubs [15:32] Rowdy: Makes sense.OTOH, as long as I'm holding their attention Im cool with it too ;) [15:32] how would a niche hub differ from a general hub? [15:33] physio: Yes, excatly the idea, I'd say [15:33] oh Surprise bot go away we are talking.lol [15:33] lol stuveltje [15:33] or what I call mini hubs groups of say 20 mature sites hubed together [15:33] thats perfect physio - its an alternate to the sponsors if they dont buy them [15:33] physio.. I personally would send them to a sponsor fpa and then to the hub myself on traffic that is filtered already to an extent but straight to the hub for general traffic if t was a general type hub [15:33] physio: Put FPAs between the link and the free site so they get an extra ad before ever seeing your free site content [15:34] Yeah, what Rowdy said LOL [15:34] brb!have to stir my stew! [15:34] hi ho [15:34] hi Jenefer [15:34] never thought about doing a fpa between [15:34] how much content would you say is good on a hub - i have some that are just bunches of fpas strung together and i have some with bunches of content - which is better do yall think? [15:34] brb get me something to drnk dont talk to fast.lol.is it allowed MrMaryLou? [15:34] Never heard it called *that* Bobbiekey ;) [15:35] whats allowed LOL [15:35] security_man... all depends on what makes the most money for you really :) [15:35] Hya Jenefer [15:35] whats this have to do with hubs? [15:35] hehe [15:35] is the radio coinciding? [15:35] back:) [15:36] No audio Jenefer [15:36] i have noticed there is a fine line between too much content and too much selling [15:36] no radio Jenefer .. just the newbie chat discussing the newbie project about hub pages [15:36] hehehe okily they were talking about tijauna! [15:36] am not , i am not being away, afraid i will missed something.lol [15:36] heard stew called stew Lassiter? [15:36] cool.. so im 35 mins late [15:36] Did ya have fun, er "stirring your stew" Bobbiekey? ;) [15:36] Content on a hub page Secirity man ? [15:36] can someone step me up on what i missed? [15:36] at least links to content mrm [15:36] lol [15:37] well.. i wouldn't call it fun..just stirring onions and beef... [15:37] i am now putting the hosted galleries on my hub from sponsors.lol [15:37] Great Idea [15:37] i am coming to eat Bobbie [15:37] could someone highlight the chat from before i came in and paste it in a private message to me please? [15:37] is the surfer really realizing how much content/freesites or sponsor links there are...? [15:37] profukkkkk [15:38] sure thing stuveltje :))making a pot full... and home made bread... [15:38] hi ProfUK [15:38] hey Rowdy, stuveltje [15:38] hi ProfUK :) [15:38] hi ProfUK [15:38] Bobbiekey :) [15:38] everyone [15:38] what do yall think about bookmarkers to hubs - should that be a goal or should it be more like the freesite model where we want to sell em something or get em the hell off? [15:38] yummmmmmie btw git a free site called that name [15:38] I can see putting some minor content on a hub maybe.Small thumbs leading to not much bigger pics on an HTML page with ads & text [15:38] howdy profuk [15:38] yes goal for me, i am getting them .lol [15:38] well.. if bookmarkers aren't a good thing... i am SOL... [15:38] Lassiter :: I eas thinking the same :) [15:39] ProfUK: I see amateur sites doing that all the time [15:39] hi does anyone see me?? [15:39] security_man ... bookmarks to a hub page are great ... just remember to update it regukarly [15:39] bobbiekey they are a good thing for me i sell thru my hub [15:39] i've not seen that many [15:39] i see you Jenefer [15:39] BTW i am just throwing out questions that need to be thought about when you are building a hub - i gots my own ideas about them LOL [15:39] ::wave wave ::: [15:40] ok bobbiekey could you paste what i missed in my pvt please?? [15:40] ::wave wave:: [15:40] I dont see how bookmarkers can hurt, though [15:40] sure Jenefer:) [15:40] thanks [15:40] sorry jenefer - i never have been able to figure out how to start a prvt - only how to chat in them once they are started LOL [15:40] hehe no worries [15:41] security_man /query nick [15:41] if they are just bandwidth suckers they might [15:41] What client are ya using security_man? [15:41] ah thanks physio [15:41] mirc [15:41] so im getting the jist of the conversation as being you offer content on your hubs? [15:41] not just links to the sites? [15:41] just double-click on a users name in the right hand frame [15:42] i am working now on a webmaster part for my hub, btw security_man you link will be there too for the submitool [15:42] i think the word content is easier to type than links to content - so "content" was referring to links to content "_ [15:42] ty very much stuveltje :) [15:42] aaah ok [15:42] Jenefer.. there are different levels of content :) Sponsor galleries for example [15:42] let me know what the url to your webmsaster page is and i will link to it as well [15:43] thank uuuuuu:bluebow: [15:43] LOL - you couldnt live without those smilies could ya stuveltje :bounce: [15:43] some time it have to be a real LL....... when i am ready for it, ...that will be when i am old [15:44] thats a great plan for a hub - i have seen many of them become linklists later on [15:44] no indeed i am happy with you guys an girls makes net working easier for me :updown: [15:44] :) [15:44] I dont think it will take *that* long, stuveltje ;) [15:44] ok.. now!... [15:44] i see way too many linklists started without any links in the categories - its good to have your own "stable" of links before you start a linklist to flesh out some of the categories IMHO [15:44] how would one incorporate sponsor hosted galleries on a hub? [15:45] make a link to them from the hub bobbiekey [15:45] i have seen alot of LL go dead in a copple of months i dont want that happening to me. [15:45] Bobbiekey.. easy... a mature link that says "free pics from wherever" :) [15:45] security_man :: yeah, i've seen them too, same for tgps, doesn't make any sense to me :) [15:45] ohhh... ok... [15:45] Bobbiekey: Easy, just put a nicely phrased text link on your list of sites and send 'em to the gallery [15:45] http://teensandamateur.com - the hub i just made only has five galleries that were built by me everything else is from a sponsor [15:45] I did that to fill things out. [15:45] Bobbiekey :: but if they have your sponsor id in the link a mouseover would be a good idea :) [15:46] They are dying becuse they have the get rich quick mind set [15:46] say you have like 3000 sites [15:46] how would you go about organizing and starting a hub? [15:46] Yep MrMaryLou.. won't argue a bit [15:46] ProfUK:why does it matter? [15:46] NevDull :: why does what matter? [15:46] Sorry I've been quit folks. Had a call come in and I don't multitask well. [15:46] The mouseover bit [15:46] ProfUK: Since it's my site, I take all URL codes out via mouseovers and just put keyword text there instead. [15:46] i have ask the LL board aboutthe dead LL, if it was wis to start a LL now, they say no, start a LL with your own links and then see, sooooo thats what i am doing, i have 4 great domainnames for LL so we shall see in the future [15:46] Jenefer.. main filter hub - sort to categories - link to said sites with those niches and micro niches [15:47] If you have 3000 site forget the hub do a link list [15:47] then repeat [15:47] nevdull - sponsor code in links screams "im gonna sell you something" so surfers are less likely to click [15:47] Aha [15:47] that's what i figured... fill the individual pages with sponsor hosted galleries and such until i am able to get each category filled [15:47] security_man beat me to it [15:47] for real mrm [15:47] i type fast profuk LOL [15:47] lol [15:47] heee nevdull i ammissing lines again.lol [15:47] rowdy i got confused on the first thing [15:47] main filter hub? [15:47] I can't type fast without making lots of mistakes, which is good for coding :) [15:48] lol [15:48] lol [15:48] ist a hub just a link list of your own sites anyways? [15:48] main filter hub = page with categories that "seperate" your traffic into more targetted groups [15:48] ProfUK: You have to issues patch updates for your HTML? ;) [15:48] right so in other words A LOT of work! hehe [15:48] ProfUK i cant read/translate all and write :) [15:48] a hub page can be a list of links, sponsor links, consoles, blurs, new windows... whatever one chooses to make it as really [15:49] A hub is a kind of a link list. Yet, IMHO the more "niche specific" and target one is the better. [15:49] 3000MrMarylou , geeze i have to work hard then:updown: [15:49] physio :: but your excuse for not excellent english is pretty damn good :) [15:49] thats not a minimum stuveltje LOL [15:49] You can have many "hubs" which may be link link list categories which all lead to a "main" hub which could be the link list itself. [15:49] hmmmm [15:49] so say the person makes AVS sites [15:50] they make 50 sites that are amateur and from a template [15:50] oke soo i got 4 great domains for linklist , just make them all hubs, and link them together [15:50] sure [15:50] then they submit these sites to 5 different AVS's [15:50] would you recommend a hub for amateur with like 10 sites from each AVS or a hub with ALL 50 sites but one hub for each AVS? [15:51] mmmmmmm , i am working also on a tricjk to get my domains together got 30 [15:51] now where are those me in the white jackets oh they are behind me [15:51] men that is [15:51] no.. links should be somewhat unique imho [15:51] lol mrm [15:51] rowdy was that to me? [15:51] lol [15:51] I'd do the second myself, Jenefer.And remember to link back to the approproate hub on each of your AVS sites too [15:51] I agree. I wouldn't add mirrored sites just the ones that are different. [15:52] hmmmmmmm [15:52] oke my hub is on 1450 pages of myn lol [15:52] we are just starting a new domain (we dont start a new one until we finish the old one) that is amateur - we plan to make several hubs - one for each girl and interconnect them. [15:52] yes Jenefer.. if something is presented and not sold in one manner, a differet things should be repeated in the same manner over and over. It should be somewhat different to appeal to different taste and cover more selling styles [15:52] at least that's how I think about them [15:52] so say tammy has a set of lesbian with sue - then sues hub will be linked to tammys through that site [15:53] surprise bot gooo a waaayyyyyyyyy [15:53] wow thats a lot of work [15:53] lmao stuveltje! [15:53] security_man am i right that you need a ton of content for this ? 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