[15:13] Anyway folks, to kinda get things rolling here. We have in the past been often ask about hub pages and such... [15:13] * Lassiter puts on his oxygen mask [15:13] hehe security_man can i whip you with a wet noodle for being late ? [15:13] hiya security man :) [15:13] it was crazy there, security man...we'll catch up next time [15:13] lassiter...it ain't gonna help... [15:13] hey linkster :) [15:14] hey Raven!! [15:14] twiceshy you can whip me with anything you want girl ;) [15:14] hehe [15:14] Weeeeeee [15:14] So we are launching a NEW Newbie Project for Hub pages... If you haven't already done so you can view it here http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project9.phtml [15:14] hi, twinkley..are you sparkling? :-)) [15:14] you know thats right raven :) [15:14] i am! [15:14] hi, xpander [15:14] hi xpander [15:14] howdy x [15:14] hi security_man and xpander [15:14] hi all [15:14] Hiya xpander! [15:14] hiya xpander [15:14] I'm back all... sorry again about running late.. hectic day [15:14] yoyo [15:14] hi xpande [15:15] how's everyone doin [15:15] hi stuveltje [15:15] stuveltje !!! [15:15] Hello stuveltje [15:15] hi, stuveltje [15:15] stuvletje :) [15:15] hi, andyem [15:15] stuveltje!!!!! [15:15] hiya stuvletje :) [15:15] hey raven [15:15] I can't make bouncing green things on irc chat, dammit :) [15:15] hey stuveltje [15:15] Woo!nick-complete so I can spell stuveltje. :) [15:16] How many newbie's out there have any type of "hub" page started or even know what we mean? [15:16] i do frank [15:16] :O) [15:16] let it go, lassiter, i'm sure you have other talents :-) [15:16] I have one Frank, but it needs work LOL [15:16] hi, nev dull w [15:16] hyaaaaaaaaa , i am here [15:16] I'm not quite sure what one is... [15:16] i do, frank, i do [15:16] i try to do one frank [15:16] lol Raven [15:16] i got one but im not sure its a good example [15:16] i have some started but not finished [15:16] ok, i'm lying...tev has them [15:16] i have particular interest in this newbie project :) [15:16] I do too LOL [15:16] getting one up this week [15:16] mine started as a simple hub but turned into a linklist [15:16] NevDull then this will be good for you. :) [15:16] lol, linkster [15:17] http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project9.phtml [15:17] i need a good hub to send all my tgp exit traffic to [15:17] That's why I'm here, Frank. :) [15:17] there are many different versions of a hub page :) [15:18] We have a thread started on the newbie board to keep all correspondence under and we'll be conducting this project during the Wednesday's chat until completed. [15:18] single pages, multiple pages, sponsors only, fpa's, free sites, avs sites, toplists... it goes on and on :) [15:18] so if you don't have a lot of sites (free sites, etc.) finished, what is a good way of building a hub? just put together a ton of sponsor links and fpas...? [15:18] and traps :) [15:18] i been playing with a few diff versions [15:18] this is one of mine - its all a big circle jerk http://girl-in-uniform.com/hub.htm [15:19] xpander: yep [15:19] Very simple -one page hub site here http://adultplaces.com/pornchoices.html (no pop ups even...lol) [15:19] btw if you want out without popups click on uniform and keep clicking the contenue link until there arent any more pages [15:19] I'm assuming that a hub page is a site where you link to all your sites, and you link to from all of them, but will I get in trouble for linking to it if I use sponsor content?Their regulations say that you can only promote their sites... [15:20] too late, security man..thank g'd for alt + f4 [15:20] lol Raven [15:20] xpander - as lassiter said, yep, lolYou can even maybe put free pics of the day, sponsor gallery links, etc... on it. Whatever may suite it best. [15:20] hehehe - yeah sorry i kinda went nuts with the popups LOL [15:20] Here's one o'mine: http://www.pussiporn.com/pussipornlinks.htm [15:20] NevDull.. linking a site to a hub page is more of a "traffic" trade as opposed to a sponsor sell if done correctly in that regards :) [15:20] http://www.kinkyfreeporn.com/ i been playing with this one [15:20] So since I'm not a sponsor, they won't freak at me? [15:21] lol raven no pop ups there [15:21] NevDull...just to add...once they click off the site that the content is on they're yours :) [15:21] ok cool [15:21] NevDull.. wouldn't know why but if you are conecrned, it wouldn't hurt to drop the sponsor an e-mail about it :) [15:21] i wont say anything about my hub but it is alive for 9 days and alrady in aol search, [15:21] lol linkster [15:21] cool deal stuveltje :) [15:22] congrats stuveltje :) [15:22] good work stuveltje! [15:22] i guess this is another type of hub page - its not availible to the public but we use it to keep track of the sites we have built and interlink everything for se spiders http://101fetishes.com/links.htm [15:22] Might a hub page be like a link list, just without having other people submit? [15:22] Great stuveltje! [15:22] thank you an get already gits on it .ho ho ho stuveltje rules [15:22] security man ...at least I know which sites I can pull now LOL [15:22] hits i mean [15:23] NevDull.. exactly.. a linklist where you control the rules and the traffic flow :) [15:23] NevDullW: Yep [15:23] rofl - oh shit [15:23] I look at hubs as another way to be able to throw advertising at the surfer with every click in or out. [15:23] Oh, then I have one. :) [15:23] is it a good idea to open sponsor links in hubs in another window? [15:23] in order to keep them at your hub in case they don't want the sponsor they first chose? [15:23] xpander.. depends on the traffic you have coming into it IMHO..... [15:24] im kinda torn on that x - i can see both sides of the coin on that one [15:24] I've got enough on mine now that I need to start breaking everything down by niche and creating satellite pages [15:24] Frank...and to figure out what they are really looking for - niche wise [15:24] it also depends on the sponsors pop up use, and if you get paid for them or not :) [15:24] I do blurs xpander. It depends on what you seek from it. You don't want to throw to much at someone as it is you want to "guide" the surfer somewhere in my opinion. [15:25] and also exits if they choose to try to leave :) [15:25] hey MrMaryLou [15:25] Hi MrMaryLou [15:25] Are there tips for how to describe the link back to your hub? [15:25] If you use the same blur on all of the fpas from a hub, and just have text on your blur as another filter :) [15:25] hiya MrMaryLou [15:25] Hey all [15:25] hiya MrMaryLou :) [15:25] now that i think of it http://101fetishes.com is just a big hub as well - but very different than most [15:25] hi marylou [15:26] hi MrMaryLou [15:26] I only use one exit pop-up on my hub, but I do have all the links opening in a new window, to keep them at the hub until they find something they want. [15:26] The thing I like about hubs is that you are under NO link list rules so you can cater your hub to your specific needs. [15:26] http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project9.phtml [15:26] exactly Frank :) [15:26] Hi MrMaryLou [15:26] hey mrm - i am almost done with the changes to submitool we spoke about at internext [15:26] Cool :) [15:26] thanx again for that :) [15:26] security man mine too? j/k [15:26] forgive me... but what's a blur? i know it's some mouse sort of thing.. heh [15:26] yes yours too linkster LOL [15:27] Hiya MrMaryLou.. hope you're feeling better! [15:27] NevDull- Links could be as simple as "more porn here". [15:27] about half full LOL [15:27] hi, mml...my favourite stalker...were you sicky? [15:27] a blur is a kind of popup x [15:27] big time sicky [15:28] Im sorry MrMaryLou i didnt mean to give it to youblame it on my boobs [15:28] i guess you could call it a pop under lol [15:28] xpander- a blur is a page that comes up and will "hide" behing the page you are viewing. [15:28] Except in AOL [15:28] x - this is a kindof glossery for terms like that you can look at when you come across something you arent sure about http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learningzone/qanda/index.html [15:28] AOL it will load in front [15:28] boobs na I think I got this from my grand kids [15:28] Frank: ok... i see. i knew what those were, just didn't know they were called blurs. thanks. [15:29] AOL just does everything bass-ackwards, don't they? [15:29] well MrMaryLou if you are half as sick as i got i feel for you [15:29] my wife wants to see her boob hat mrm LOL - shes all excited about it now :) [15:29] lol security_man [15:29] thanks security_man, i'll bookmark that glossary [15:29] LOL of course Lassiter...even their CEO gets out when the going is good [15:29] np x :) [15:29] I have seen people though get overly zealous on their hubs with ads. Ads are good, yet, there's a fine line between being functional and just overbearing in my opinion. [15:29] linkster: I suspect he was made to walk the plank ;) [15:30] Probably LOL [15:30] i'm sure his retirement fund will see him through [15:30] Thats for sure Raven ;) [15:30] making room for Billy boy to take over LOL [15:31] so after the surfer has chosen his niche on the main hub, would it be better to send him direct to a site or give him the choice of some sites ? [15:31] because we got so much amateur content from the party the other week - we have started on a different kind of hub for the new domain - it will look kindof like mini amature sites with "click here to see my friends" and shit like that [15:31] Ooops, the peers attacked TwiceShy! [15:31] * NevDullW adds "peer" to the Axis of Evil. [15:32] physio - the sponsor hosted galleries work real well to flesh out a hub with more content IMHO [15:32] security man...you going to go with that idea we had on getting more content [15:32] im still working on her ;) [15:32] :) [15:32] physio- Depends sometimes. If a surfer just selected a niche. Then yes, you could break that down into more specific sites on another page. [15:32] security_man: Agreed...I'm just now starting to use those.Planning to make several niche-specific hubs, all corsss-linked into the big momma hub. [15:32] was just thinking if the way to the site could be to long [15:33] er cross-linked [15:33] brb [15:33] Say if a person selected "amateur". That could be teens, housewives, grandmas, ethnic, whatever. [15:33] take a cat like fetish/variety and link it to a page with preg/pee/etc. [15:34] "amateur Grandmas here - professional grandmas here" [15:34] sorry cant follow i am on the phone.eeeekkkkkkkkkkk [15:34] yuppers - i have had great sucess when giving the surfer very niche specific choices - kindof like those old pick your path books i read in grade school [15:34] so that would be more targeted, right ? :) [15:34] The more specific you can find the surfer wants the better chance for a sale in IMHO. [15:34] and now you have the definition of "filtering" [15:34] absolutely linkster:) [15:34] Absolutely physio. That's "filtering" traffic :) [15:34] lol [15:35] :) [15:35] think i got it :) [15:35] and there are so many different ways of filtering [15:35] What I have now are three mirrored hubs, each one with advertising "tilted" towards a specific niche, though the links themselves are still all the same and not yet broken down by category. [15:35] these are the basics i would say [15:35] sure....then filter by CC/free/email etc. [15:36] I send exit traffic to the appropriate mirror [15:36] Lassiter..what do you do with them then? [15:36] i guess the important thing with a hub is to balance adds and "trickery" with actual phisical content [15:36] When we start out I think most hubs are more less a small generic links list. Yet, as we build more sites we can sure break things down into more "specific" types of hubs. [15:37] Hi root! Welcome! [15:37] howdy root :) [15:37] hi root [15:37] ut oh, somebody hacked the unix server :) [15:37] hi root [15:37] wb TwiceShy [15:37] lol [15:37] LOL [15:37] wb TwiceShy [15:37] lol [15:37] thats clear for me frank, doing a niche specific hub with only one site wouldnt really make sense [15:37] ah ts you were trying to trick us LOL [15:37] linkster: Well, the hubs have links to lots of stuff...free sites (mostly with FPAs beforehand), hosted galleries, straight-to-sponsor-tour links, etc., etc. [15:37] IDENTIFY asshole [15:38] hmm [15:38] that sounds like my 404 page lass LOL [15:38] well who ever id DOS attacking my othermachine is having fun [15:38] does anyone have a topic list on niche pages we can make [15:39] in case ive forgot any? [15:39] I've got the hub set to come up as 404 on one of my domains, security_man...another cool thing to do with 'em ;) [15:39] Andy...any linklist has a good selection [15:39] topic list? [15:39] Niche areas, so he knows he's covered them all. [15:39] yup - i have made good money with a very hubed out 404 page :) [15:39] ive covered all the topics liek redheads and that [15:39] redheads? [15:39] Yea, what linkster said.LOLIf ya go to a link list just look at their categories. That would be a good start. [15:39] * Raven loves redheads [15:40] ok thx frank [15:40] LOL Raven..so do I [15:40] Raven is a hotttie [15:40] sorry for the newbie questions lol [15:40] It's Newbie Chat, AndyEm. :) [15:40] who doesnt like redheads - theyre so squishy LOL [15:40] don't be sorry, andy.... [15:40] Newbie this is the place for it :) [15:40] lol, security man.... [15:40] as far as SE stuff for these hub pages goes... would it be a good idea to limit the number of outgoing links per page? [15:40] security_man: I want to create a *very* nasty trick-filled hubsite specifically for 404 traffic.Overly curious surfers should be "rewarded" heh heh ;) [15:40] i still have the new car smell in me lol [15:41] Andy...we're all newbies till we get out of the biz :) [15:41] not for long, andy....give it a year..you should be vetted by then [15:41] Eww... go to the bathroom and let it out, AndyEm. [15:41] ben there and done that lassiter htt [15:41] or die, lassiter, whichever comes first [15:41] thats my goal [15:41] a special guest is coming [15:41] opps http://101fetishes.com/hta [15:41] im pissed i missed the vegas show this year [15:41] we've got one of those, lassiter....i'll never know if it works right, cause it crashes my computer... [15:42] lol raven - thats tough [15:42] Raven: I wanna turn em upside down and make sure there's no loose change in their pockets first, but yeah...they can die afterwards ;) [15:42] Raven: Then it works right LOL [15:42] lol [15:42] Nap time folks see ya soon :) [15:42] dang that was quick LOL [15:42] lol [15:43] i have no clue, lassiter..i refuse to look...LOL [15:43] When nap time arrives, it really arrives ;) [15:43] rofl [15:43] yo aj :) [15:43] surfers need to learn to go where we send them, which means we have to show them the way [15:43] Nap sounds good though, hehe [15:43] i will be probably next year at internext with my guy yahoooooooooo [15:43] another question, what about these email boxes, are they doing well ? [15:43] hi, aj...:-)) [15:43] hiya ajhall :) [15:43] Raven: As Frank N. Furter would say, you didn't make it for YOU! [15:43] Hi AJ! [15:43] physio...doing well for me :) [15:43] new sensations freshest face, AJ Hall [15:44] :) [15:44] surfers are not my friends....they are wallets. period. [15:44] Hi everyone, xpander said I should swing by so here I am [15:44] depends on the program and the sponsor and the webmaster physio - so oh yeah and oh god no LOL [15:44] so i'll have to try it out :) [15:44] AJ....good to see you in Vegas :) [15:44] didn't we meet in vegas, aj....at lightspeed's hospitality suite? [15:44] physio: cemags does okay for me [15:45] but i haven't even given it too many clicks and i already got some sign-ups [15:45] CEMags ad images are friggin' huge. [15:45] I probably met half of you, suffering short term memory loss at the moment [15:45] nah [15:45] i use their text table [15:45] with a few mods [15:45] NevDull....use text [15:45] cemags and the maxcash one is really interesting - you dont get paid up front with it but if someone buys you get full comission [15:45] well, since i'm only 5'2....you probably met all of me [15:45] lol [15:45] AJ...I was the tall one in the ANS suite with Ramster [15:46] oh wait ..we're both tall LOL [15:46] yeah..i was gonna say.... [15:46] lol [15:46] security_man, xpander i'll check them out,thanks. [15:46] Linkster - I think I remember [15:46] go get em physio :) [15:46] ramster is canadian...that's the difference LOL [15:46] lol [15:46] AJ I got your email. I have the flu and haven't gotten back to to many folks yet. But I'll be hooking up with you sometime soon to discuss some things with ya. :) [15:47] Anything more about hubs that someone wants to impart to newbies? [15:47] and ramster doesnt have that kick ass tatoo :) [15:47] Do I want a hub to be on the root page of a domain, etc... [15:47] Frank - sounds good, I've been working on some cool stuff all morning, xpander is gonna be the first guinnea pig ;) [15:47] oh yeah hubs - what exactly is the project? [15:47] *snort* [15:47] LOL sounds good AJ :) [15:48] http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project9.phtml [15:48] thats not a bad idea nevdull - or your root could be a primium avs or something that makes money - but mostly its a hub [15:48] if you want to NevDull :) [15:48] I think that good "descritive" text works best for links. That helps to filter the surfer better to something specific. [15:49] Frank: like a short sentence/desc. beneath each site name, which is hyperlinked...? [15:49] I just read the page from the link Frank just posted - we're just talking about building a hub for spidering pusposes, correct? [15:49] Descriptive text is why I want to find more sponsors who have hosted galleries that don't change. [15:50] xpander: ya dont even have to use actual site names if ya dont want to..just short SE-type phrases [15:50] take the hosted galleries and download them to your server [15:50] xpander- you can do that. Yet really there's not even a need for site name IMHO [15:50] lassiter: yah, better to go after keywords i suppose [15:50] then they never change nevdull [15:50] ajhall...for filtering traffic and selling [15:50] bust out a little wget action? :) [15:50] OK folks, lets do this with the project..... post your present hub page example if you have one for reviews, build one for review if you don't already have one.. then, together, we'll all help each other maximize our pages performance [15:50] What the site is about is more important than the name [15:51] That sounds like w ineer Rowdy :) [15:51] so the name should be what the site is about for better filtering ?` [15:51] winner* [15:51] Sounds great Rowdy...been hoping for some good feedback now that Im actually starting to get some real traffic to the darn thing ;) [15:51] this should be interesting - what is the time frame on the project? [15:51] good deal Lassiter [15:52] security_man.. there is never a limit on learning :) [15:52] good point rowdy :) [15:52] physio- yes, but what I meant is that a "precise" description will filter better than the actual page name. [15:52] ajhall...basically if you have a surfer who doesnt want to buy on your gallery or free site...then send him to a hub to let him choose his niche [15:52] Considering those that do it sooner will see benefits sooner, that should be incentive to get done a bit quicker on it but folks can take as much time as they want really [15:53] It's nice when hub pages make it into the search engines too :) [15:53] myb is at ses.lol [15:53] i think i will be going after something i have been thinking about for a while - a niche hub - its a hub for filtering but its only filitering the sub catigories of a big one [15:53] keeping your traffic from exiting unless youve tried everything to extract a sale or email addy [15:53] Might one pay for SE inclusion of their hub site, or is that throwing away cash? [15:53] Linkster - thanks, I've yet to build a non-pornstar niche hub [15:54] depends on how good the hub is nevdull [15:54] LOL [15:54] security_man.. exactly.... that is one of the main purposes for hub pages... filtering and traffic generation [15:54] ajhall..with your sites it would be good to send them to a hub for say movies etc. [15:54] You'll get picked up NevDull without paying anything. I wouldn't waste my money myself. [15:54] I agree w/ Frank on the paid SE, no need to pay as of now [15:55] kratzen [15:55] and dont pay anyone to submit to SEs for you LOL [15:55] Nah, wouldn't do that, linkster. [15:55] but if you just have to pay for traffic a hub would be better than a freesite LOL [15:55] lol...german text was not really for this room [15:55] i agree with linkster.heeeeee [15:55] With all the links that you'll have going to your hub you should get spidered pretty often. [15:55] A good hub can lead to free indexing of hundreds or even thousands of pages by all the major SEs [15:55] definitely not linkster ;) [15:55] even those little "we'll submit to 3000 SEs free thingys" stay away from them [15:56] they're all blacklisted by the majors [15:56] Who the hell uses more than Google, AV, Lycos, Hotbot, and one or 2 others? [15:56] and that includes the ones that welovefreeporn and linkfabulous do for you when you submit LOL [15:56] I did that once or twice in my early days and all I got was floods of spam [15:56] Nobody uses most of the 3000, I'd assume. [15:56] Fast/Inktomi are the other good ones(Excite is Fast) [15:56] ok all.. the chat is getting close to the end.. any questions about the project? [15:57] sec man..thats right :) [15:57] nope - and i gotta run - gots to deposit all the money i made from porn last week LOL [15:57] LOL [15:57] Are we gonna make a mega-hub of everyone's hub sites Rowdy? ;) [15:57] Lassiter.. that's possible [15:57] heh [15:57] thats not a bad idea lass :) [15:57] Rowdy...a toplist would be good for hat :) [15:58] that [15:58] cya folks [15:58] bye security man [15:58] Why not, if we all put recip links back to the mega-hub...more traffic for all! ;) [15:58] seeya security man [15:58] say hi for me [15:59] well this sounds good, yet another thing on the to-do list [15:59] I could see a toplist being good for that. [15:59] ok all.. I have to make another call (busy day) so I'll catch everyone on the board contributing to the project thread :) [15:59] Thanks Rowdy! [15:59] see you later rowdy [15:59] bye rowdy, thanks [15:59] NevDull...or at least one exit with non paying traffic LOL [15:59] Thanks for coming out all :)