[15:00] hey Crawdad :) [15:00] Hi Crawdad [15:00] hey Craw :) [15:00] Hi Kath, Rowdy, Artist [15:00] yeah - that letter from Paycom - nasty stuff :( [15:00] hi crawdad [15:00] hi Officer [15:00] Havent seen the letter [15:00] I've had so many people email me and ask if it was a joke... [15:00] Just a post on GGs board [15:00] this is something else... [15:00] we talked to epoch, kath [15:00] is that letter onl;ine?url? [15:00] Kre8t0r's nick is the only one I really use the tab function on... takes me half an hour to work out how to type his name otherwise [15:01] I'm going to put it up on Adult Buzz after the chat Lassiter if you don't see it before then... [15:01] you talked to them RE?What did you get? [15:01] epoch is getting ready to have a meeting now about this [15:01] not much, kath...they know about as much as we do [15:01] i'm in the dark, what's going on? [15:01] the only one not involved yet is website billing..but i guess their letter hasn't gone out yet [15:01] I'm surprised it caught them by surprise - I mean, they're usually 10 steps ahead of these announcements yet [15:01] hey plc :) [15:02] hey plc :) [15:02] hi PLC [15:02] Hi All..;) [15:02] I just posted to the LinkList board, wondering if our industry's chargeback problem is really significatly higher than the rest of net commerce. Any studies or figures? [15:02] hey Frank :) [15:02] hey Frank :) [15:02] Hi Frank [15:02] Good day everyone!!! [15:02] hey Fetish :) [15:02] hiya Frank [15:02] Hi fetish1 [15:02] hi fetish1 [15:02] howdy frank, fetish1 [15:02] Hi Fetish1 [15:02] 8 Hello Frank, Crawdad, Officer, plc, everyoneLOL [15:02] Lassiter - I think it is higher simply because it's easier to blame our industry and say that the error/problem was on our end [15:02] Hi Kath - Thanks for being here today and being our Special Guest! [15:03] lol fetish1 [15:03] Hiya Artist..didnt se ya :) [15:03] hell, any Internet business is like that - all you have to say is "the charge came from the 'net" and they wipe it off your card :( [15:03] hi plc, Frank and fetish1 :) [15:03] thanks Frank - I appreciate it :) [15:03] hehe [15:03] We run 2 small pay sites and have had exactly one chargeback in a year, out of a couple hundred members total. [15:03] Hiya Rowdy [15:03] Hi Rowdy [15:03] Wow Lassiter - that's great :) [15:03] Yes.. its great to meet Kath in person.. so to speak [15:03] this is ridiculous [15:03] Thanks Artist :) [15:03] i'm talking to someone who knows about this [15:03] Hey Raven, how ya fluttering.:) [15:03] i still have no idea what your talking about [15:04] I know the guys I used to work for didn;t get many charge backs [15:04] hey, plc... [15:04] <~ so lost [15:04] Crawdad - I'll shoot you a copy, hang on one sec... [15:04] visa is now charging money for third party processing [15:04] k, thanks kath [15:04] Kath: the one SOB did charge back 3 mos. worth of charges, but that's our only flake [15:04] hey bobbie :) [15:04] ah ok thanks Raven [15:04] hiya Bobbie [15:04] I jsut logged in to fetish1 so I am too, lol [15:04] anyone that has a pay site with a third party processor has to pay dues [15:04] Need to get paypal..they're a lot cheaper all round [15:04] <`Bobbiekey> Hi Artist.. Crawdad.. Everyone!:)) [15:04] Hi Bobbikey>:) [15:04] how would paypal fair in all this? [15:04] that's an awesome track-record there Lassiter - you should be very proud, sounds like you are too - that's great! [15:05] hiya Bobbiekey [15:05] I suppose they are a third party [15:05] plc: Just no way to do auto-rebill via PayPal, or is there? [15:05] <`Bobbiekey> hey plc:)Rowdy:) [15:05] hey Bobbiekey :))) [15:05] <`Bobbiekey> hi kath!:)) [15:05] * Kath wishes Bobbiekey a very ducky day! :) [15:05] Hi Bobbiekey! [15:05] think so now ebay bouht them out Lassiter [15:05] bought even [15:05] Pay Pall will rebill under the membership thing [15:05] * `Bobbiekey giggles... and a ducky one for you too kath! [15:05] <`Bobbiekey> hi Frank!:) [15:05] thanks :) [15:05] does anyone know what it means to visa to charge back? [15:06] pain? [15:06] Guess PAyPal's gonna see a windfall out of this, unless anti-adult eBay makes them restrict us too [15:06] heheh [15:06] as in whats involved for them.does it cost them money.. or just a tiny bit of processing time [15:06] Yea, I think there needs to be more other alternatives. This credit card crap is getting loonie. [15:06] it means that every chargeback will be reported to visa...you are no longer protected under your processor's umbrella [15:06] it just went beyond loonie....it's like joining a country club [15:06] PayPal has had a lot of problems this year too - the gaming situation alone was very difficult for them - it'll be interesting to see how it comes out [15:06] they want registration fees, that's what it is [15:06] I just checked one of my sponsor last night and got 5 charge backs last month with just that 1. [15:06] we'll just have to take cash only...:) [15:06] paypal is not the answer either..they freeze accounts at the drop of a hat [15:07] true [15:07] lol plc [15:07] big accounts arent going to be able to hide in a 3rd party system no more [15:07] Frank - how awful :( [15:07] I have even a better one than that too.... [15:07] <`Bobbiekey> hi fetish1:) [15:07] perhaps one alternative is to pay back the fee of the charge back.. direct to the member [15:07] can always use e-gold, let them try taking that [15:07] hiya Bobbiekey [15:07] so no charge back takes place [15:07] I dunno if someone dies or whatever but I got screwed cause it shouldn't have happened... [15:07] bdsm'ers....when they charge back..and they don't do it often...especially the subs....but when they do, they'll charge a year's worth [15:07] a whole year? [15:08] that's ridiculous! [15:08] we are already paying third party processors......a percentage.. [15:08] I had 1 charge back last year that was for like 4 or 5 months I think it was. [15:08] ACH is an option [15:08] yes, plc..one of my sites did that [15:08] I call that robbery [15:08] Raven: Yep...our one chargeback charged the 90 day maximum he could [15:08] out and out robbery [15:08] I dont understand how they do it [15:08] i agree Kath [15:08] well the only way to stop all this is NO MORE FREE STUFF, then they pay or do without [15:08] if they buy something from a shop .. they can't just charge it back [15:08] RavenL Yes, we pay a damn stiff percentage too, IMO [15:08] <`Bobbiekey> brb :) [15:09] free porn aint gonna die [15:09] plc - yeah but that's like taming a 2-headed cobra...there's too much free out there already, it's not going anywhere :( [15:09] hard to put the ketchup back in the bottle [15:09] Yup, I guess cause everyone views us a "evil" people so they can do evil things to us.lol [15:09] * plc listens to Bobbiekey's voice at ANS to sooth his frayed nerves [15:09] thats why I incoproated as Evil Empire hahaha [15:09] the best we can do is not contribute to the problem - limit what we give away, mask it or make it more softcore - but we can't get rid of what's already there [15:09] As long as there are guys with scanners, Hustler mag collections, and Geocities sites, free porn will be with us B-< [15:10] would the government consider making online forms a legally binding contract? [15:10] dont forget the usenet [15:10] I agree Kath [15:10] we have to stomp on the ree stuff as hard as the CC's stomp on us [15:10] plc - you gotta stop in and post back...I bet if you replied to Bobbiekey's sweet voice, she'd post more too :))) [15:10] It's becuase it's just to damn simple to screw with this industry... government isn't going to jump up and say.. hey.. play fair [15:10] heheh good idea Kath.:) [15:10] plc: But most of our selling paradigm involves free stuff [15:10] not even the guys with scanners - there are webmasters out there who just give away the whole enchillada and don't care what affect it has [15:11] well we pay taxes don't we?so why not fight for fair [15:11] i'm sorry....but this has come at a very bad time for us....i have to go [15:11] very true Rowdy - everyone seems to want us out of business so we get no help or sympathy for sure. [15:11] <`Bobbiekey> back... sorry:) [15:11] I think education is the best key to helping the problem of "free porn" - and the work that's being done just with ANS newbies on our board is making a difference [15:11] you're forgiven Bobbiekey.:) [15:11] Rowdy & Frank really have to be commended for the work that they over there - this latest group of new webmasters are awesome :) [15:11] Frank: Yep, and half the bastards that write anti-porn letters probably have memberships somewhere...hell, they're probably charging back too [15:12] <`Bobbiekey> thank you plc:) [15:12] I blame the ACLU personally.. they should have their balls slowly squeezed in a vice [15:12] It's all them is the reason the board is so good :) [15:12] well we have such awinspiring leaders there Kath, and we are so scared we daren't not obey.:) [15:12] they not only work hard, communicate with others well - but they also give back to the community and work hard for our future - that's amazing :) [15:12] plc - lolyeah, I would always obey Rowdy hehe [15:12] Have you checked out the Audiozone yet? http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/audiozone/ Now you can be seen and heard at the Audioboard: http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/audioboard/ [15:12] Giving people the grasp of the right ways to do things and guiding them in the right direction from the start is the way to go I beieve, yes [15:12] agree there Frank [15:13] Artist: I'm a 20-year ACLU member, but I know what yer saying.Liberals who alsways start with "I personally hate pornography, but..." [15:13] Frank - definitely...we're very lucky to have the newbies we have now - they give me hope for our future :) [15:13] * plc always agrees with Frank, after all, he has the whip hand.:) [15:13] hey Denim :) [15:13] hi Denim [15:13] brb ICQ is acting up [15:13] Hi denim [15:13] Hey all... sorry I am late for class:) [15:14] ok, Hi Denim, good to see ya :) [15:14] Denim - 30 lashes with a wet noodle heheJust kidding - I don't think we've started yet [15:14] This has NOT been a good ICQ day.LOL [15:14] wb Bobbiekey [15:14] * `Bobbiekey slaps her isp around a bit with a rotten tuna [15:14] lol Kath [15:14] Kath... I think we're all ready whenever you are :) [15:14] <`Bobbiekey> thanks plc:)) [15:14] Frank - ICQ sucks...that's why I like the Audio Zone Controller and the new PM system @ ANS - it always works for me :) [15:14] thanks Rowdy...well I don't want to take up too much time cuz I know you guys have something special happening here today... [15:15] I think overall what they do is a good intent Lass..they just need to learn to comprimise and arrive at sensible solutions :) [15:15] we do? [15:15] but thanks to Frank & Rowdy for giving me a few minutes to chat about some important features that we have @ ANS [15:15] 7 Frank welcome's Kath as being our Special Guest for the first portion of today's chat! [15:15] Hi MrMaryLou! [15:15] Yay Kath! [15:15] hey MML :) [15:15] * `Bobbiekey applauds kath [15:15] 1st off...check out the post I just made on the Main Board re: one of our feature articles on Adult Buzz today... [15:15] hi MML [15:15] Hello all [15:15] <`Bobbiekey> hi MrMaryLou,musti :) [15:15] What a day woe is me [15:15] hi MrMaryLou [15:15] hi MML and Musti [15:16] Kath, what's new going on around the biz? Anything to share with us today? [15:16] hi musti [15:16] The Feedback Post feature on Adult Buzz is on every page - it's a great tool that's NOT being used - that you can use to ask questions, start discussions, share ideas... [15:16] Take a peek at the bottom of pages 2-12 on Adult Buzz any day of the week (http://www.adultbuzz.com) and see all the ways that you can share about important issues with other webmasters [15:16] question Kath...don't AB send out the weekly stuff anymore? [15:16] plc we do - but Kath blue screened 5 times today during the updates :((( [15:17] I get my Adult Buzz stuff all the time plc. [15:17] I was SO mad - especially because we have a huge weekly issue today :( [15:17] sounds like kath needs a new pc lol [15:17] well it must have blued for weeks with mine..:) [15:17] <`Bobbiekey> awwww :( [15:17] but glad you missed it - I like hearing that people read it and look for it... [15:17] Hi everyone, looking for cheap design and websites? [15:17] plc - if you aren't getting it, shoot me an email and we'll get you fixed up :) [15:17] I look for mine [15:18] Another feature that I think we all should take care of is checking out the sponsors atop each of the boards and the portal... [15:18] yeah right...if I wait for the reply the AB will be long gone...LOL:) [15:18] Me to GonZo. Great way to stay informed.:) [15:18] <`Bobbiekey> I agree Frank:) [15:18] because they sponsor in to adult netsurprise, these sponsors are here to help you make $$$ - so if you have questions for them, ask them - if you need help with something... [15:18] Using those "post buttons" on the bottom of the articles is a great way to get expaned information on whtever topic is at hand [15:18] ask the team and we'll help you get answers...they have a presence here because they care about you and your business [15:19] well my experinece with the sponsors on ANS and at AB is, they helped me a lot, all of them so can endorse that Kath [15:19] Another great feature is the email post function on all of the boards - if you have a question, or want to share something that was posted, [15:19] hehe what a dif to 3-4 years ago [15:19] just use those functions and send it to a friend, a colleague or even a sponsor or team member... [15:19] we're all here to help - not just on the newbie board either... [15:19] * `Bobbiekey loves the newbie board [15:20] which brings me to my next point - I would like to personally invite all Newbie Board posters out to the main board - share a little of that magic with our main board posters... [15:20] I know I'm spamming here..but this is for the newbies int he room that need more domain names :)there is a new domain registrar in town http://web123s.com and it only charged $8.45 per domain [15:20] All of ANS is full of good info :) [15:20] * plc loves Bobbiekeys voice on the newbie board.:) [15:20] lol [15:20] the information ya'll share and the community feel that you all have - it's definitely something that the vets could learn a lesson from... [15:20] * `Bobbiekey smiles.. thanks plc [15:20] don't smile Bobbiekey - just ourr..:) [15:20] and your activity on the Audio Board has been fantastic - if anyone needs any help getting set up with the Audio Controller or to get posting over there with voice, just say the word... [15:21] sweet price [15:21] purr even [15:21] I just want to wrap up here and say that if anyone has any questions or needs anything at all - my door is always open... [15:21] ya i have moved all my upcoming domain renewals there ith no prob at all, $8.45 each [15:21] * `Bobbiekey purrrssssss [15:21] you can reach me via ICQ at 29052013 or via email at kath@adultnetsurprise.com [15:21] * Lassiter melts [15:21] :)))))))))))))))))))))) [15:21] Kath is the best [15:22] Kath must be as busy as hell [15:22] can you fly out here and set up my audio controller? [15:22] I want to thank Rowdy & Frank for letting me chat with everyone again - I truly believe that the Newbie Board is an awesome feather in the cap of all webmasters - you guys are our future :) [15:22] lol [15:22] Kath ROCKS for sure. :) [15:22] does kath ever sleep?lol [15:22] Gonzo - to Georgia?heheheI dunno...maybe? [15:22] Is that Gonzo of Cashquest? [15:22] Aw thanks guys :)I appreciate it - and I appreciate your time too...now I'll let you get on to the really BIG news :))) [15:22] Thanks Kath! :) [15:22] hi Cheekymarie [15:22] hahah see she didnt even tell me no to a silly request [15:22] hey Cheeky :) [15:22] Hi Rowdy :) [15:23] Hi Artist [15:23] thanks Kath..:) [15:23] <`Bobbiekey> hey!.. it's Cheeky! [15:23] <`Bobbiekey> :)) [15:23] Hi Cheekymarie! [15:23] thanks for having me :) [15:23] he Bobbiekey :) [15:23] Thank you Kath!!! [15:23] take care Kath :) [15:23] thanks kath :)) [15:23] Hi Lassister [15:23] I am glad to have you here Kath. You are filled with such valuable info and such a big part of and inspiration in our business. [15:23] damn I miss Kath :( [15:23] <`Bobbiekey> Thanks kath:) [15:23] Im not from cashquest but they sure are making me money Ed Powers Rocks! [15:23] missed :( [15:23] hey i just got my icq reminder for the chat...LOL:) [15:23] <`Bobbiekey> lol plc.. [15:24] np - I mean it...get me on your ICQ lists 29052013 :) [15:24] <`Bobbiekey> just in the nick of time too! [15:24] yep.:) [15:24] ahh.. lol good for you :) [15:24] I think theres only one of me [15:25] . [15:25] <`Bobbiekey> .. [15:25] For those out there that haven't signed up to receive the Adult Buzz mailer I recommend it. Head over to Adult Buzz http://www.adultbuzz.com and sign up. It wirth it! [15:25] thanks Frank :) [15:25] I saw a message of yours on the board Gonzo.. you mention cashquest.. if it was you... thats why I asked :) [15:26] Ok folks for the second part of today's Newbie Chat we are launching our NEW Newbie Project!!! [15:26] you mean someone read what I type? hehe hope its a help to you [15:26] I am dreading to think what Kaths ICQ list is going to be like hehe [15:26] * `Bobbiekey listens with anticipation [15:26] Woooohoooo!:)Gotta love those Newbie Projects :)))) [15:26] We are getting BACK TO BASICS with Newbie Project #7 [15:27] you can view it here http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project7.phtml [15:27] This is NEW but yet it's not.... [15:27] Looking good Frank :) [15:28] What we are doing is basically taking skills that we have learned from past projects... [15:28] Looks great Frank :)Lots of great things in here :) [15:28] and seeing how well all of you can use them in the construction of sites. [15:28] pb! [15:28] hi pb [15:28] hey pb :) [15:28] Since we have many NEW folks participating on the Newbie Board now.... [15:28] Back to basics sometimes is a good "temp backstep" to make :) It can really refresh your thinking on new things :) [15:28] Hi pbmax [15:29] I almost didnt make it [15:29] Hey Frank [15:29] We felt that it would be a good idea for all of us to remember some basics as well as help the new folks that may not have even done a project yet. [15:29] <`Bobbiekey> looks good Frank! [15:30] pbmax, we are launching our NEW Newbie Project #7 you can see it here >>>http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project7.phtml [15:30] EveryoneRowdy [15:30] <`Bobbiekey> hey pb! [15:30] I'm not sure I've ever really gotten OUT of the basics yet LOL [15:30] Bobbiekey [15:30] That is GOOD then Lassiter.... [15:30] <`Bobbiekey> :)):::: wave wave :::: [15:30] I'm always basic Lassiter.:) [15:30] Hiya pbmax [15:30] Another reason for the project. We should NEVER forget the basics and capitalize on them :) [15:31] Well, except for that very premature amateur pay site, but it's a sweet girl and I love it even if it is a bit braindead ;) [15:31] I have also written a new article for which may be appearing sometime soon on these same lines as well :) [15:31] * `Bobbiekey sets mode: +o Crawdad [15:31] lol [15:32] <`Bobbiekey> :)) [15:32] So as far as this project goes... [15:32] We will leave it up to everyone to a degree on how they want to persue it.... [15:32] damn.. this is every newbies dream.. step by step guides hehe [15:32] <`Bobbiekey> I agree Artist [15:33] It would be nice to see maybe some more experienced webmasters team up with a newer person to help guide them... [15:33] participating in the projects really helps alot [15:33] But it's not necessary. [15:33] I'll team with Bobbiekey any day..:) [15:33] Don't forget all .... there is even the chance at winning something at the end of it :) [15:33] <`Bobbiekey> awwwww :)) [15:33] hehe, think ya got a fan there bobbie [15:33] this is a just a quick coment its seems that no link site wants to be index21.html but with just a bit more effort you could use doorway directories instead this would benafit both partys [15:33] Projects are what helped me learn for sure Crawdad :) [15:33] me too frank :-) [15:33] What are doorway directories, MML? [15:33] Very true MrMaryLou [15:34] <`Bobbiekey> thanks for asking that Lassiter.. [15:34] welp, i have to get back to work, babies need new shoes loltalk to ya'll later :) [15:34] <`Bobbiekey> :) [15:34] bye Officer [15:34] cya Officer [15:34] <`Bobbiekey> bye Officer... have a ducky day:) [15:34] making a new directory with only a index dorrway page in it. [15:34] whatever.com/les1/ wathever.com/les2/ [15:34] are there any 'term' dictionaries on ans? [15:34] lol, will do Bobbie [15:34] frank made one once [15:35] also it DOESN'T doesn't benefit anyone to do index21 either.... [15:35] Ah ok...the rest of the site is in one single directory, but the various index pages are in their own subdirectries?? [15:35] http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learningzone/qanda/index.html [15:35] It would take a whole lotta time and would yeild you more listings [15:35] Artist - look ing the Learning Zone http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learningzone it should be in there :) [15:35] lol Rowdy beat me to it [15:36] brilliant guys.. thanks :) [15:36] anyway - it helps when our pages are "keyworded". [15:36] <`Bobbiekey> so setting up my free sites the way i have been doing is not good?even tho i get accepted? [15:37] I wouldn't say that Bobbiekey, if you are accepted then all is well... [15:37] <`Bobbiekey> oh... ok Frank :) [15:37] Bobbiekey.. diversification is always a good thing ... all sites will have a different personality so to speak as the webmaster developes their own styles :) [15:37] I am just saying that anytime one can use "keywords" it can only benefit them. [15:37] Sorry just got back. Damn slow puter. Project sounds good! [15:37] hi all [15:37] <`Bobbiekey> wb pb [15:37] Hiya pbmax, didnt see ya come in [15:37] Hiya hexa [15:37] <`Bobbiekey> hi hexa:) [15:37] wb pb [15:37] hello hexa! [15:37] TY Hiya fetish1 [15:37] Actually I was gonna do something like that, MML, to take advantage of the few lists that allow FPAs before content.Have enterance pages that go to an FPA in one directory, and others that link straight to the content in another [15:37] I like to name my doorway pages so that they correspond with the niche I am promoting [15:37] Hi Hexa [15:38] OK, before I keep on ranting does anyone have any questions concerning the new project >>>http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/project7.phtml [15:38] Nope, Frank. Seems very, er, "basic" LOL [15:38] i'm looking for a blonde/centerfold sponsor.. any ideas ? I looked at centerfoldgold and ars sexy blondes but i'm not sure i'm also wondering if hustler would do...? [15:39] don't know if this helps anyone, butI name ALL my pages with keywords related to the particular site except the normal index page - works for me [15:39] Gonna set up teams and all Frank? [15:39] gotta dash guys - thanks again for letting me pop in :)good luck on the newbie project!:))) [15:39] heh I had best go over project 1 through 6 before asking questions [15:39] The project sounds good Frank,cya Kath [15:39] Thanks again Kath! [15:39] cya Kath..:) [15:39] <`Bobbiekey> what i do is name my gallery pages to the two keyword phrases that I am using [15:39] By Kath - thanks so much for being here today! :) [15:39] damn got to remember to hit send when I finish typing lol [15:40] hexa .. CE has nudeblond [15:40] Rowby: k thx i'll take a look [15:40] Well, I think the project can be a new learning experience just by getting people to remember some of the basics. [15:40] er.. rowdy sorry [15:41] <`Bobbiekey> brb phone... :) [15:41] Artist.. the newbie board is for questions... there will be a thread for this project :) [15:41] This is not brain surgery in my opinion. We are selling porn. We don't need to complicate the issue.LOL [15:41] ah ok.. thanks Rowdy :) [15:41] Frank: Yeah but it would be nice if we could do some fast brain surgery on the surfers..."I must buy...I must buy..." [15:42] pepper their cofffee with viagra maybe..?:;) [15:42] spooky has something like that on his site...'Stare at this spot' 'you are getting horny' [15:42] lol [15:42] rofl [15:42] Frank. We gonna just do one site? Or teams? [15:43] Not that there isn't room in certain areas to get a bit more complex. But for the most part there's no need for big productions. It doesn't sell any better and may even sell less. Staying simple and to the point is a tried and true method that has always withstood the test of time. [15:43] pbmax, I had mentioned right before you popped in that we are going to let everyone decide.... [15:43] Oh. [15:43] It would be nice for a more experienced person to team up with a newer person... [15:44] yes [15:44] pbmax... this for individuals or teams if people want to join forces (I would think individual ones would be a bit better as then you get to learn, plus have a complete site after the fact to market :) [15:44] but we are going to leave that choice up to everyone... [15:44] hmmmm [15:44] I guess there are few people to go around to some degree.... [15:44] i agree rowdy, if you do it individually you can actually use the site after it's done [15:44] I'll build my site if Bobbiekey does the voice over..:) [15:45] <`Bobbiekey> lol [15:45] <`Bobbiekey> :)) [15:45] butttt - as long as everything is ask on the board then we are ALL a big team anyway. You get guidance from everyone :) [15:45] true Frank! [15:45] Then after this is all done we will have some select folks take a look at the sites... [15:46] and determine which they perceive as being the best overall site... [15:46] I see [15:46] and we'll reward the person or team for that :) [15:46] <`Bobbiekey> so.. how do we know who is doing what? [15:46] <`Bobbiekey> such as teams or single [15:46] i want to join up with tia so she can do killer graphics=P [15:47] we will correspond on the board Bobbiekey.... [15:47] oops [15:47] LOL [15:47] <`Bobbiekey> ok Frank:) [15:47] Right after this chat I will be making a NEW thread for the project.... [15:47] Hi Besat [15:47] <`Bobbiekey> oh kewl:)) [15:47] wb MrMaryLou [15:47] Great [15:47] Hi ya PLC [15:47] Sounds good Frank [15:47] so everyone PLEASE keep all project correspondence under this thread OK? lol [15:47] I have to ask this question here.. so I know where I am at..the projects are all related?so project one is the very first steps.. right up to this project which is recapping some of the other projects? [15:48] Hi Bestat! [15:48] hey Bestat :) [15:48] Hi Frank and Artist [15:48] Artist, no not really.... [15:48] Hi Bestat :) [15:48] * `Bobbiekey is still on the phone.. sorry [15:48] Hi ya Cheekymarie [15:48] <`Bobbiekey> Hi Bestat:) [15:48] each project is different teaching different things. [15:48] Artist.. there is no "set order" of the projects... that would make it all to simple....lol Seriously, we did the projects as ideas have came up for them [15:48] oh ok.. [15:49] cool :) no worries [15:49] Hi Bobbiekey :) [15:49] You can view all project herehttp://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/projects.phtml [15:49] This is like a refresher course? [15:49] Artist: There's a very secret order to the projects that is only revealed after you've done them all ;) [15:49] yes pbmax in a way :) [15:49] lol Lass [15:50] hehe lassiter [15:50]