[13:59] *** WillyB changes topic to 'Today's Topic: Building Linksite Friendly Sites ... Welcome Special Guest, Greenguy! http://www.link-o-rama.com/ and other Great Green Sites!!!~*\!/*~Today is Wednesday - March 13th~*\!/*~Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom! - Adult Webmasters Only!!!' [13:59] hi LilBiggz [13:59] hey ya Rowdy!! [13:59] hiya, Greenguy [13:59] hiya, LilBiggz [13:59] heya green guy and rowdy [13:59] hi Raven :)))) [13:59] hiya, Snikks [13:59] :-))) [13:59] raven [13:59] wow full screen chat,cool [13:59] *** WillyB changes topic to 'Wednesday Newbie Chat!!!-- Today's Topic: Building Linksite Friendly Sites ... Welcome Special Guest, Greenguy! http://www.link-o-rama.com/ and other Great Green Sites!!!~*\!/*~Today is Wednesday - March 13th~*\!/*~Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom! - Adult Webmasters Only!!!' [13:59] there [13:59] hell everyone !!!! [13:59] *** Crawdad has joined #netsurprise [13:59] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Crawdad [13:59] sorry bout that! [13:59] Raven!! [13:59] Hiya LilBiggz and Crawdad! [13:59] Hey Crawdad :) [13:59] snikks.. ya remember kurt russle's nickname in escape from ney york or whatever the hellit was called? LOL [13:59] crawdad :-))))) [13:59] *** Dawn has joined #netsurprise [14:00] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Dawn [14:00] willyb !!! [14:00] hiya, Dawn :-)) [14:00] Snake Blisken [14:00] *** MrMaryLou has joined #netsurprise [14:00] that was snake blitzkine [14:00] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v MrMaryLou [14:00] hello Dawn! [14:00] hi Crawdad and Dawn [14:00] hiya everybody [14:00] wb MrMaryLou :) [14:00] * roscoe can't talk, im not a newbie [14:00] Damn Power [14:00] nope sure don't man [14:00] LOL [14:00] Hiya Raven [14:00] lol, roscoe [14:00] * soulman rolls and smokes the newbie! [14:00] you can talk all you want roscoe! [14:00] LOL [14:00] lol Greenguy [14:00] TALK [14:00] I am new newbie [14:00] how come this chat has to be at the same time as Opie & Anthony?LOL [14:00] u spelled it better than me greenie [14:00] hahahah [14:00] lol Gg [14:00] I guess - LOL [14:00] hahaha [14:01] I guessed, that is :) [14:01] dont sell yourself short roscoe :p [14:01] hehehe [14:01] *** LE_TheStatistician has joined #netsurprise [14:01] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v LE_TheStatistician [14:01] they messed up when they scheduled that show GG [14:01] j/k [14:01] Hey LE! [14:01] hiya LE :-)) [14:01] wow look at all these people [14:01] hi le [14:01] hey LE [14:01] hey im not short...looks down and hopes [14:01] hey Greenguy! [14:01] *** Traveller-Ron has joined #netsurprise [14:01] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Traveller-Ron [14:01] Hiya WillyB! [14:01] Hiya LE [14:01] hey LilBiggz & Kre8t0r [14:01] *** tia has joined #netsurprise [14:01] hiya Rowdy [14:01] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v tia [14:01] hey guys :) [14:01] hi tia [14:01] hi ron and tia [14:01] Hey Tia [14:01] *** MorningBear has joined #netsurprise [14:01] hiya tia:) [14:01] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v MorningBear [14:02] Hi LE [14:02] hiya Rowdy :) [14:02] hhi MorningBear [14:02] hey MorningBear [14:02] hiya, morning bear :-) [14:02] LE!! [14:02] hi even [14:02] hiya, tia :-) [14:02] hi MorningBear [14:02] ok getin crowded in here.. [14:02] Hey Raven [14:02] whoohooogang's all here!!:)) [14:02] hi there everyone:)))))))))))) [14:02] roscoe, yell FIRE [14:02] Damn, what a turn out! [14:02] hey we a GANG! [14:02] do we get colors roscoe? [14:02] scary.... [14:02] Pixmasters Content - 5,000 15,000 and 45,000 pic sets at $99.95 and up! See our FREE CD OFFER! http://www.pixmasters.com [14:02] yep we are roscoe.. hehe [14:02] Crawdad!!!! [14:03] *** Strohm3 has joined #netsurprise [14:03] Ohhh - I do love Pixmasters content :) [14:03] sup dude [14:03] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Strohm3 [14:03] hi crawdad [14:03] hiya, strohm# [14:03] wssup kre, hw's things dude [14:03] hiya Strohm3 :)) [14:03] [14:03] hi Strohm3 [14:03] strohm3 [14:03] howdy biggz [14:03] doin good...promised myself a fishing day this week [14:03] Check is in the mail Greenguy! [14:03] i'm aright... [14:03] Hiya everyone [14:03] right on Kre, i'm gonna go this afternoon me thinks [14:03] Hello tia! :-)) [14:03] Roscoe - AWESOME!Even after I managed to cancel my own account - LOL [14:03] hi Willy :)) [14:04] Hey TIA didn't se ya come in woman! [14:04] LOL [14:04] * tia snuk in :) [14:04] hello Strohm3 :) [14:04] gotta buy a hew battery for my truck first though, might get stuck at walmart, happens alot [14:04] *** HippyDude sets mode: +o Greenguy [14:04] Well we understand you have a handicap grennie [14:04] hew = new [14:04] lol [14:04] *** HippyDude sets mode: +o Rowdy [14:04] WillyB what it B [14:05] Yes, I can't help but push buttons on websites - LOL [14:05] it B happenin' Strohm3! [14:05] LOL [14:05] lol [14:05] people look for buttons.. so we give 'em buttons! [14:05] hmm I am bit unprepared every question I had was related to free pics sites. [14:05] :-) [14:05] lol Greenguy [14:05] ok is this when im supposed to spam? [14:05] makes life more interesting huh? :) [14:05] * roscoe didn't say that [14:06] lol roscoe [14:06] see asking is the first error [14:06] it was my bad side :) [14:06] ALG Cash - http://www.algcash.com/ - 50/50 partnership - we build sites for you to link to :) [14:06] :p [14:06] spam then say...oops [14:06] wow lessons on spamming... [14:06] well it is an art [14:06] lol [14:06] spam 101 [14:06] and i thought i was good at it :) [14:06] Spammer [14:07] I love spam :) [14:07] you know i must admit i really don't get complaints about the mail i send. [14:07] *** Rhino666 has joined #netsurprise [14:07] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Rhino666 [14:07] ok... are we about ready to start? [14:07] *** plc has joined #netsurprise [14:07] damn I better be good da boss has got ops [14:07] yep [14:07] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v plc [14:07] rhino666 hiya.. [14:07] hiya, plc [14:07] Fried spam sandwhich..good [14:07] yeah... just got hear hehe [14:07] Hi All [14:07] rofl MrMaryLou [14:07] hi Rhino666 and plc [14:07] hey Rhino666 [14:07] Roscoe - I love getting your mail - give me an excuse to spam my baord with my referral code :) [14:07] that poor greenguy needs an eye so he can see Annie .. GG!:D [14:07] lol...hey everyone [14:07] LOL.... [14:08] did you get the latest Grennie? [14:08] hiya Rhino666 :) [14:08] the blowout sale? [14:08] hello plc :) [14:08] Hi WillB [14:08] last one I got was the special offer one - the 1/2 price stuff I think? [14:08] Yes - I got that one :) [14:08] 5000 for 49.95 ?that one [14:08] ok Greenguy .. can you start by giving us a basci quick overview of what type sites you like to list and then we can go to questions unless you have anything else to add [14:08] yuppers [14:08] ok [14:09] this one roscoe? http://www.pixmasters.com/blowout.html [14:09] what kinds of sites?hmmmmmm [14:09] ok we are starting.. [14:09] LOL yea willy.. [14:09] umm .. what you look for in a site for listing [14:09] What basically any link site look for is a surfer freindly site [14:09] hehe [14:09] Ok ill be quiet [14:09] all this talk about cotent did make me think of question. alot of my sponsors offer free content is that best to use? or is really worth buying it for a newbie webmaster? [14:09] I know this is a big pain in the ass because we are here to seel to the srufers [14:10] but we need to link to surfer friendly sites so that the surfer bookmarks us, comes back, tells their friends, ect [14:10] 30-40% of my traffic is bookmarkers [14:10] (btw - I'm not reading any posts as I type this - LOL) [14:10] What we do allow are 3 banners/ads per page & with the narmal free site bneing 4 pages.... [14:11] lol gg [14:11] warnign page, main page, 2 gallery pages... [14:11] Greenguy sell and missleading at two different things correct ? [14:11] this gives you 12 ad spots - which IMHO is too many - LOL [14:11] if you build a lesbian site, i don;t think you shudl push more then 2 lesbian pay sites - it's kinda hard to sell the surfer that one site is the best... [14:11] I have the freindlys muthafukin site out there...it leaves a mint on your pillow when you leave [14:12] when you have an ad next to it for another site (that of course is equally good - LOL) [14:12] But of course, that's you option. [14:12] *** Dawn Quit (QUIT: User exited) [14:12] I don;t lkike consoles, new windows, blind links, too many ads, small pictures, basically anything that you hate while surfing... [14:13] I hate to link to :) [14:13] Jesus - I can;t type worth a shit - LOL [14:13] that makes a lot of sense GG [14:13] I check links with that in mind as well.. as a surfer [14:13] lol [14:13] so, I guess we can open up to questions - let's start with me asking if I've ever turned anyone in here down [14:14] don;t me shy - I can take it :) [14:14] well of course greenguy! lol [14:14] you have turned down my sites! [14:14] LOL [14:14] me = be [14:14] I am not even sure what a blind link. something like see 18-19 teens (with a sponsor link)? [14:14] its that a trick question [14:14] That;s cause I know they are yours :) [14:14] never turned me down ! [14:14] Not me I read the rules.hahahahahahah [14:14] figures... hahaha [14:14] rofl [14:14] never turned me down, either..i read the rules. [14:14] but i never asked either... [14:14] i'm a good girl [14:14] a typicla blind link would be you haveing gallery 1 that leasd to a gallery, gallery 2 that leads to a gallery & gallery 3 that leads to a sponsor [14:14] a few times here but i'm getting better... [14:14] or a link that says "next page" that leads to a sponsor [14:14] nope, i read rules, too :) [14:15] i've been turned down before [14:15] hey raven i have a pic of you holding boobs! [14:15] I tend to think my sites have character.. so usually ignore that top part hehe :/ [14:15] take my link...please [14:15] bad crawdad... [14:15] basically anything that leads to a place the surfer didn;t think it was leading too [14:15] and all the thousands of hits you get from those return links on my little sites....lol... how dare ya! :) [14:15] how about a link that says click here for more? [14:15] bah dump dump [14:15] just don't sell it, roscoe...send it to me [14:15] and its not your boobs :))) [14:15] oic,hmm I have seen potd post use that. [14:15] i know....it's darklady's boobs....can i see it? [14:15] a link that says "click here for more of " would be fine [14:15] sorry people.. [14:15] like "Click here for even more Lesbo action pics" [14:15] Boobs where [14:16] * WillyB likes boobs! [14:16] lol willyb [14:16] ahem...you are all here to learn....behave...you overgrown teenagers...LOL [14:16] * Strohm3 Agrees with WillyB..hehehe [14:16] But .. GG .. Next Gallery .. going to a sponsor is blind link.. right? [14:16] hehehe Raven ;) [14:16] yeah, what raven said [14:16] willy i have you to.. [14:17] yes - seeing as there's really is no "next gallery" that would be a blind link :) [14:17] *** methie has joined #netsurprise [14:17] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v methie [14:17] hiya, methie [14:17] but how could you put potd post on your site and do that?That is blind link from the sponsor [14:17] hello mithie [14:17] Greenguy.. a link that has the sites name that you are going to go to if you click on it is for the most part... acceptable within limitations, correct? [14:17] *** cheekymarie has joined #netsurprise [14:17] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v cheekymarie [14:17] hey cheekymarie [14:17] hey, cheekymarie :-) [14:17] hi methie and marie [14:17] POTD links are counted as an ad/banner - so they go into the 3 per page total [14:17] Morning all sorry I'm late :) [14:17] G'Day cheekymarie :-)) [14:17] hey everyone - lllooooonnnggg time!!! [14:18] morning WillyB - sorry I'm late GG [14:18] better late then never :) [14:18] willyb, rowdy [14:18] dont see frank here? [14:18] hey methie, Marie :) [14:18] hey tia [14:18] *** lassiter has joined #netsurprise [14:18] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v lassiter [14:18] yeah well I slept in when I didn't want to :( [14:18] nice to know that gg, i have shyed away from potd links because i didn't know [14:18] Hi Tia [14:18] lassiter..hi..:-) [14:18] hi all [14:18] hi lassiter [14:18] hiya lassiter [14:18] sorry Im late B-/ [14:18] Frank is probably deep in work and not realizing the time [14:18] how long have yall been here? [14:18] hah [14:18] hello lassiter :) [14:19] Hi rowdy, tia, willyb [14:19] * methie Heads to the bathroom! [14:19] *** Barebratt has joined #netsurprise [14:19] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Barebratt [14:19] hey, BB [14:19] GG, what do you consider an ad when you limit 3 per page?Sometimes I have one paragraph linked to my sponsor, then right below it I will say "Click here to see these girls".. is that one ad? [14:19] Greenguy... certain sponsor that have potd's also have non tool bar full screen pop ups on them... do you allow all sponsrs potd or is there some that won't work because of those pop ups? [14:19] do you have an example? [14:19] hi Barebratt [14:20] GG - I probably missed a ton by now - so POTD is classed as a banner ad [14:20] isn't building a site with several potd a good way to go? While putting some free content on your host? [14:20] let me dig one up.. brb [14:20] *** Uin-AFK is now known as Uinael [14:20] claify POTD..? [14:20] hmm thought it was - just checking [14:20] clarify [14:20] Ipicture of the day [14:20] thanks soulman [14:20] I just cannot get any sales - not 1 - Im using cybererotica and after 2000 uniques I gave up :-( [14:21] Rowdy - as of right now, I am not banning any sponsors for anythign they have on their site - once the surfer clicks off the site I've linked to, as long as consoles don;t pot from that domain I linked to, it's all good :) [14:21] Green Guy is someone submitted a site to you and their banner ads led to a fullpage ad for that sponsor - would you accept it? [14:21] hey i got a question on more than 3 links on the first page... is it ok to do this below the enter link... http://www.lilbiggz.com/ce/nikki_free/index_01.html [14:21] i c grennguy.. thanks [14:21] methie - email jim@fantasymanmoney.com - he'll take a look at your CE account & give you advice :) [14:21] *** Barebratt Quit (Connection reset by peer) [14:21] * WillyB this chat is being Logged and will be posted in the NetSurprise Newbies Members area! http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/newbiezone/members.phtml [14:21] greenguy - thanks [14:21] I havent spoken to jim for a while - he an ok dude [14:21] methie... takes more than 2000 hits to go anywhere nowadays.... even more so if you're "new to the game" [14:22] FPA's are allowed AFTER the content, so if you had a FPA linked from the last gallery page, that'd be fine :) [14:22] GG, this page for example.. how many ad spots do you consider this?http://www.realhornyteens.com/sft0802/main.html [14:22] yes .. after fine tuning your advertising skills [14:22] Rowdy - but then at $30/sale the bandwidth for more than 2000 uniques would outweight the profit? [14:22] Methie - if I read the Statistician site correctly, conversion ratios are more like 4000-1 for big non-niche sponsors [14:22] ok - cause you know what - I have a lot more people going to my sponsors when this happens and didn't want to get banned for doing it :) [14:22] http://www.lilbiggz.com/ce/nikki_free/index_01.html - nope :( [14:23] I would think it would help see an example of site that would be accepted and one that wouldn't [14:23] Methie - Jim's awesome - go post on the board & he'll teach you alot :) [14:23] *** Barebratt has joined #netsurprise [14:23] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Barebratt [14:23] k thanks [14:23] * Kre8t0r throws Barebratt a rope [14:23] greenguy - thanks - ill do it [14:23] *** Barebratt Quit (Connection reset by peer) [14:24] http://www.realhornyteens.com/sft0802/main.html - that's one ad, but it's bordering on a FPA because of the size (but I'd allow it because it's the only ad on the page & thus doesn't make it look too spammy) [14:24] methie... there are plenty of ways to make money off those 2000 hits.. send them to a large sponsor for the "easy" sell and then depper into the site, you can go more niche type things that filter the traffic. Then run an e-mail program as a last resort type deal from the site and you should make some money off that 2000. [14:24] methie - 2000 uniques can;t really be counted towards a bandwidth total - you'd need all the file sizes & whatnot - but I don;t think 2000 would cost you that much bandwidth [14:24] great thanks :)I was worried when I make the ad's too large.. I didn't know if you count them for more than one [14:25] soulman - I don;t have any examples handy :( [14:25] methie .. keep your full sized pics down to 40 - 50 K and should be ok on bandwidth [14:26] what dose fpa mean? [14:26] Full Page Ad [14:26] soulman: full-page ad [14:26] Hmm so a fpa would stop someone from getting listed on most link exchanges? [14:26] *** Relik has joined #netsurprise [14:26] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Relik [14:26] yo ! [14:26] hiya Relik! [14:26] hey relik! [14:26] hi Relik [14:27] hey Relik [14:27] heya my freinds! [14:27] on some soulman .. some allow them After the content [14:27] a lot of link lists won't accept full page ad and then if they do - it's got to be after the content [14:27] FPA's are not currently allowed before the cotnent on my site - soem link sites accept them, some don;'t [14:27] Greenguy can you look at a freesite that i made today and tell me if its acceptable? [14:27] *** Barebratt has joined #netsurprise [14:27] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Barebratt [14:27] Relik - sure - what's the URL? [14:28] wb Barebratt [14:28] What a bout a text add on top of free content page? Most my sponsors require that [14:28] here's 2 examples of good clean sites: [14:28] http://www.amateurnipples.com/anneles01/ [14:28] http://uncensoredfreexxx.com/sweetcheeks/index.html [14:28] Greenguy.. so I have a site and on Gallery One is a link to Gallery Two.. I can have an FPA in between the two? [14:28] *** Barebratt Quit (Connection reset by peer) [14:28] *** LE_TheStatistician Quit (QUIT: User exited) [14:28] Not sure how to do an FPA *after* the content though...would that be as useful as just a hub of various links to catch exit traffic? [14:28] willyb - no - after gallery 2 is where I'd allow the FPA [14:28] bad site - http://www.the-fat.com/fatta/free/index.html [14:29] ah.. ok.. after all the content.. but not some.. ic [14:29] cool :) [14:29] *** Barebratt has joined #netsurprise [14:29] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Barebratt [14:29] Thanks For The Voice :o) [HippyDude] [14:29] geezuzzz [14:29] np Barebratt.. I have an unlimited supply of them! [14:29] I am blind now, that fat site is scary [14:29] lassiter - the FPA after the cotnent is actually a very good way to keep track of who you're sending hits to - say the lesbian sponsor isn;t doing well, just change the link ont eh FPA page to a different one &then you don;t have to worry aobut changing all the links on the sites :) [14:30] * Strohm3 Ties Barebratt to the dam chair..lol [14:30] i know you all don't like this script, but let me get trillian set up and i will get rid of it [14:30] GG - hmmm I think i get it [14:30] lassiter.. sometimes a fpa can perform well inbetween the main page and a linkspageif it is laid out correctly [14:30] what about pictures that link to sponsor sites? [14:30] Just weighing between a single fpa for exit traffic vs. several smaller text links [14:31] soulman - I currently allow one banner/ads per html picture page, so linking the picture to a sponsor is fine as long as there's nothing else on the page [14:31] *** Elfbratt has joined #netsurprise [14:31] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Elfbratt [14:31] *** Barebratt Quit (QUIT: User exited) [14:31] *** Elfbratt is now known as Barebratt [14:31] okay [14:31] Rowdy: That makes sense...would a pop-up window for hub links to catch traffic after the FPA be allowable? [14:31] ok, now [14:32] gg did you looked at the site? [14:32] technically, if the console is on yoursite, you'd get declined [14:32] lassiter.. I just use the no thanks link on the fpa to lead into a linkspage or hub page [14:32] cool :) [14:32] While they last !! 5000 Pic Cd's for $49.95 VERY Limited offer http://www.pixmasters.com [14:32] relik - did you post the URL?I might have missed it - LOL [14:32] oki [14:33] http://www.hentaiplayground.net/freesites/nastyhentaibabes/index.html [14:33] if it pops up from yourdomain.com it's declined.. that is good way to do it GG [14:33] vegas pics http://www.pixmasters.com/vegas [14:33] NOOOOOO [14:33] LOL [14:33] damn you, roscoe [14:33] Rowdy - cool...does that work well for you?I'm just wondering about traffic leaving the FPA without clicking on an exit link. After all, they've been thru 2-3 pages of content plus an FPA [14:33] LOLOL Raven/roscoe!!! [14:33] http://www.hentaiplayground.net/freesites/nastyhentaibabes/index.html - no - you have 16 ads on the main page [14:34] All in fun raven :)) [14:34] it's an anime site - sell the surfer on joinging an anime pay iste :) [14:34] 16 ? you cunts the links? [14:34] *** furball is now known as furball|Coffee [14:34] NOOOOO roscoe! [14:34] *** furball|Coffee Quit (QUIT: User exited) [14:34] LOL..GOTCHA ! [14:34] lassiter.. it's done well on some of my sites... the lay out of that hubpage or whatever is pretty important.. plenty of easy to find choices type thing [14:34] yes, we count the links to the sponsors - no more then 2 per page [14:34] okey so its to much advertising at main? [14:34] 3 per page - sporry [14:34] got it ! [14:34] lolol wooo hooo [14:34] Roger ! will change that [14:35] but is it okey with one banner and one txt link on main page gg? [14:35] you also have 5 different sponsor links on the gallery pages [14:35] okey .. it shuld be maximum 2 [14:35] right? [14:35] you can have any combination of 3 banners/ads per page - 1 text link & 2 banners - 2 text links & 1 banner - all text links - all banners, etc [14:36] my dosnt MorningBear look a bit fried :p [14:36] hehehe [14:36] Roger! [14:36] personally, I only advertise ONE sponsor whenever possible - you trying to sell the surfer that the anime sponsor is the best fucking anime site around [14:36] okey [14:37] gg do you count a banner with text link at the top and bottom of it as 1 or 3 ads? [14:37] *** maestro has joined #netsurprise [14:37] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v maestro [14:37] LOL Kre8t0r!!! [14:37] oh K i have you also ! [14:37] *** Playful has joined #netsurprise [14:37] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Playful [14:37] hiya, playful...maestro [14:37] Hi Playful :) [14:37] hi maestro and Playful [14:37] a banner with text around it is considered one ad - as long as there's not 100 words of text around it & the banner is not 400x500 :) [14:37] hi Raven and cheekymarie [14:37] great pics roscoe!!! [14:37] hi Rowdy [14:37] hello [14:37] GG - lol [14:37] thanks [14:37] http://www.pixmasters.com/cart/click.pl?id=greenguy - hehehehe [14:37] hey there rowdy [14:38] man you are quick with the spam dude... lol [14:38] lol [14:38] rats,afk [14:38] hello maestro :) [14:38]