[14:00] *** WillyB changes topic to '~*\!/*~ The Newbie Chat-Topic: The Newbie Project and Networking - Special Guest.. JP from www.Go4LiveCam.com !!!~*\!/*~Welcome to the Adult NetSurprise Chatroom! - Adult Webmasters Only!!!' [14:00] hiya Willy :) [14:00] hiya tia [14:00] hello Buzzard [14:00] Buzzard's waving to y'all :) [14:01] Tell Buzzard to take it easy and get better! We miss his wit in here :) [14:01] how is Buzzard doing today tia.. is he minding the doc?? [14:01] he's much better today .. and yes, he's minding the doc [14:01] most definately tia [14:01] ererrr Ron [14:01] Rowdy .. [14:01] lol [14:01] man.. it's monday all over again! [14:01] LOL [14:02] lol [14:02] sometimes i have mondays all week. sometimes sundays though. all a matter of the mindeset lol [14:03] lol, veryday's the same for me anymore WillyB, hehe [14:03] good point JP [14:03] Got to go find a new carb for the truck today (Figures the fucker would blow the day before we're supposed to get snow...lol) [14:03] lol Rowdy, isn't that always the way [14:03] I messed up my post.. then tried to fix it and deleted it instead I guess LOL [14:03] i often times forget about days. just annoying when the banks and postoffices have closed when i think they got open. then i figure it is holiday or weekend [14:04] hahaha [14:04] yep [14:04] yep.. monster truck sitting in the drive waiting for snow all year... take it out yesterday to "warm it up" and booom.... there goes the carb... gas everywhere...lol Had a couple little fires today trying to get it into the garage. (To damn big to puch!) [14:04] I never understood why stores and banks are closed when most ppl are off of work [14:05] push that is [14:05] I they should stay open .. even though a lot of those ppl who are off of work probably work there. [14:05] could be a reason too LOL [14:05] yeah, we need a webmaster bank [14:05] Willy... because they don't care how much money they make I guess :) [14:05] with big checking accounts which dont get fully easily [14:05] that's why bars can be very successful! [14:06] good idea JP :) [14:06] Willy you need an atm card [14:06] well, at least we regged go4atm [14:06] once we come out with our own chain of atm machines [14:06] lol [14:06] lol.. really JP? [14:06] kool [14:06] nah.. I just need cash.. I dn't like banks [14:07] i regged all kinds of go4xxxxx sites [14:07] big plans [14:07] dont forget to put one in S. Florida [14:07] kind of a mattress stuffing guy huh Willy? [14:07] the smell of money of the pillow lol [14:07] yep.. banks are insured by the gov't .. and 32 could happen again when ya least expect it tia [14:07] i use a sock myself :p [14:07] lol K [14:08] gold teeth [14:08] JP, I'm so glad I made this chat, I'm anxious to hear you talk about your program, and how to promote it well [14:08] lol [14:08] LOL [14:08] lol Willy [14:08] You can ask JP questions about anything! [14:08] well I'd like to know about the structure of the inside [14:08] *** LilBiggz has joined #netsurprise [14:08] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v LilBiggz [14:08] hey LilBiggz [14:09] hey LilBiggz!!!! [14:09] mainly was wanting to find out how he got to do so well.. he must have done a lot of things right! [14:09] Hiya LilBiggz [14:09] hello LilBiggz! [14:09] Heya guys, I'm tired but I made it... :- ) [14:09] Hiya LilBiggz [14:09] well, doing livecam shows from the model sites since 1999 give you ideas of what is missing and what customers and models really want. [14:10] HOW THE HELL ARE YA FRANK !!! [14:10] lol [14:10] that is the big difference i would say you dont find anywhere else. i doubt that other big camsite operators actually showed off on cam and know whats it like. [14:10] *** Flopster has joined #netsurprise [14:10] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Flopster [14:10] could you explain how the setup basicaly works JP? [14:10] you started with that JP [14:10] hi Flopster [14:10] hey Flopster [14:11] Hi Fopster [14:11] hello Flopster :) [14:11] hiya Flopster [14:11] Flopster, that is,lol [14:11] Hi everyone [14:11] well, the setup is that we provide a linux based server platform with built in dialer and creditcard billing. [14:11] Hi Tia [14:12] hi JP [14:12] models can connect with a free software we provide to stream their audio and video to the server [14:12] I'm catchin up [14:12] it is mirrored from there to viewers who pay by the minute unless it is a free teasing show. which have to be softcore in order to be free [14:12] so basically you provide the means, and they provide the content [14:13] those streams can be recorded by the model for later 24/7 replay. same quality just as liveshows. [14:13] yes Tia. [14:13] we are the interface between the customer and the talent. [14:14] I always wondered if it was live or recorded [14:14] so it not live ?? if pre recorded \ [14:14] the teaser shows are what's free inside, and also there are free pics and archives [14:14] as it is server based there is no limit how many people can watch a model at once without losing any performance on the models end in terms of frames per second streamed [14:15] yes, there are thousands of free pics in the meantime and over 250+ hardcore , fetish , gay, etc. videos. [14:15] and upto 17 live shows at peek we had. getting more and more by the day [14:15] Sounds like a real sharp set up JP! [14:15] go to go daum i wanted to see this willly send me a copy will ya [14:15] so where does the upsell start [14:15] JP.. do you think the free content keeps them from the pay stuff??? [14:15] I have very good programming folks on board from germany. biz partners acutally. [14:16] WillyB, no most people join for free and then spent money right away [14:16] yep Flopster! [14:16] thanmks [14:16] I'll make sure ya get to see the whole thing ;) [14:16] upto hundreds of bucks per girl if they get a crush [14:16] np [14:16] :) [14:16] *** Flopster is now known as pick-up-kids-then-wife- [14:16] most jump around a bit until the land big time with their favorite type of model [14:16] i c [14:17] was wondering about that! [14:17] ya sure willyb [14:17] lol [14:17] they have to have the cc to join all of that thoght, right [14:17] thoght = though [14:17] most people love the interactivity of the live chat. still they can decide whom to join by browsing the archive pics [14:18] right [14:18] also, each model got a bio page to promote. in the format modelname.go4livecam.comso they are easy to bookmark as well [14:18] I haven't checked, but does the tour change the who's online in real time? [14:18] but viewers do have a built in favorite list with thumbnails [14:19] so when i member surfs around in the model pages or video overview models can be bookmarked [14:19] JP do you offer live cams to free sites or just pay sites? [14:19] and at the next login they all are instantly listed with a hotlink to their page. which leads them to the models live show and videos [14:19] LilBiggz, we work on that . will be maybe ready for the holiday biz. so takes still. [14:20] but all the content can be used in terms of pictures from the galleries [14:20] kewl [14:20] to promote the program [14:20] it is not at the moment for lease LilBiggz [14:20] we work on a little license paysite operators and avs operators can use [14:20] you should do great with the IF nightmare [14:20] free license, lots of pics to use. as long as a banner or uplink is used on any page. [14:20] my thoughts exactly K [14:21] i figure alot of people are looking for an altenative [14:21] we tested upselling with some people and it converts great. those people have creditcards and love such live videos with true models working from home [14:21] JP ... any plans on actual content sale to some degree with a few larger images in the future? [14:22] not many models have hires digital cams in those camgirl "circles" yet. [14:22] i c [14:22] but we thought about an extra option as a recurring program [14:22] for a minimal fee [14:22] extra money then recurring monthly for models, webmasters [14:23] low amounts for some hires pics extra dont harm the creditcards of true fans and they most likely stay subscribed for months and months. [14:23] Exclusive Content - Specializing in Anime, Hentai, Bishojou and Toon Content! Amazing Adult Comic Feeds too! Why be like everyone else? Be Exclusive! http://www.exclusivecontent.com [14:23] something under $10 I thought. but still planning on that. so much other things will come first :-) [14:24] in march / april the entire videochat applet will be rewritten and an entire new livecam software will be available. [14:24] well.. I actually like the "amateur" look of the free pics that I saw Willy used for his site promoting yours... the only problem was that the hieght and width of them would lmit a person on some linksite listings... although they easily could add those as a "bonus" gallery probably [14:24] JP, what kind of promotion does the best for affiliates? [14:24] my programmer just cannot stop to make things better and better :-) he loves the challenge and always want to be top of the line [14:25] the best are like little 1 or 2 page freesites [14:25] with some of the girls pictures from the site [14:25] or other amateur looking content [14:25] best though with pics of girls actually on the site. [14:25] I showed you the one I did.. would it be better to link that to a more general page? [14:25] more authentic. [14:26] tia, the one you did is targetted to 1 girl. it would work great building multiple of those pages [14:26] so you can use the pics and not really as a gallery.. use your own content for the gallery and the pics of the cams from there as promo tools like on banners then? [14:26] and link them together on an extra page to split then into niches [14:26] like your little ring of camgirls. [14:26] I'm not sure I understand what you mean JP [14:27] like a page with some textlinks leading to bbw, blonde, brunette, fetish [14:28] but all going to the same page that I have now you mean? [14:28] then when they klick they might see some more pics of that kind and a personal text , like the model talking to the surfer. [14:28] how exciting it is for them to be watched, and that joining is free. [14:28] i mean like multiple of those pages. with different girls on each [14:28] for every taste. [14:28] oh, oh.. I see [14:29] your page looks like some more advanced though. you beeing a gfx wizard :-) [14:29] but what about the link to your site.. where do you think is the best page to link to? [14:29] actually JP, I just used what you had and re-arranged it a little :) [14:30] most webmasters just put like pictures and some text. yours is very artistic :-) [14:30] thank you :) [14:30] well, you used some gfx program with text on the picture and all. not everyone can do this. I wish i could [14:31] oh well yeah, I did do that [14:31] as the site is fresh on the market it is really easy to promote it. [14:31] JP, do sales come from modlename.go4livecam or from the freesign up links??? [14:31] mostly? [14:32] people will not fall in the trap of some other over promoted site. just different models. often times no where else to be seen before. [14:32] keeping us busy so as they come of course up with all kinfs of questions beeing on cam first time in their live [14:32] life [14:32] so they will sign up from the bios pages usualy [14:32] so it's best to target the models [14:33] WillyB, that is not really tracked where they come from most. not on the site itself. [14:33] ok [14:33] but people with big amounts of traffic from like TGPs or opt in mailings do very well with little 1 or 2 page sites [14:33] then linking the surfer directly to our freesignup page. [14:33] ok [14:34] that's waht I was looking for! lol [14:34] that's what I was wondering.. what page would be best to link to [14:34] but it is like with everything out there. you have to test what converts bests for you. basically all converts surprisingly well. [14:35] I was going to say that too.. if you promote the one model.. best to link to her page so they want to hurry and see her live [14:35] hehehehe [14:35] that would make sense to me [14:35] that's what I did Willy [14:35] compared to paysites where the viewer spents upfront money for monthly memberships. free signup attracts people and then they spend money the next minute for $1,99 or more. [14:35] I'm going to try it both ways I think [14:35] and webmasters make 25% of that. [14:36] *** loveslave has joined #netsurprise [14:36] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v loveslave [14:36] we feature models each week as well [14:36] hey loveslave [14:36] hi loveslave [14:36] hiya loveslave! [14:36] hi all! [14:36] hello loveslave [14:36] hiya Willy! [14:36] those feature newsletters are sent to all registered members [14:36] hi loveslave [14:36] how many models do you have at the moment JP? [14:36] ~370 [14:37] wow [14:37] not all active though. but registered. [14:37] JP ... sounds like ya got a program I need to try out on a few sites :) [14:37] *** Da_MoBu has joined #netsurprise [14:37] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Da_MoBu [14:37] hi all [14:37] hehe Rowdy [14:37] hi Da_MoBu [14:37] hi Da_MoBu [14:37] they get active though after several newsletters mostly [14:37] I got 2 get some amateur content and try it out, I hear a lot of people are turning to it because it's not everywhere you turn.... [14:37] and some just go on the site...then record a video and forget about the site. [14:37] then when they $50 they get a check [14:37] and the day the check arrives they are live [14:38] you don't need anything but what JP is offering here LilBiggz [14:38] and then suddenly are their GFs are on [14:38] you can use what he has to build your pages [14:38] ah.. the models.. ok.. they get their money and go online again! lol [14:38] interesting! hehehehe [14:38] all the models we are shooting are exclusive to us....not anywhere else on the web [14:38] once they smell the money they camp on the site [14:38] we get calls for shoots when rent is due :) [14:39] like good lil whores :) [14:39] rofl tia! [14:39] kewl, I have visited many times but never signed up because I just didn't think it was for me. [14:39] we're training them well... [14:39] some model from the UK makes real good money there. and helps already to answer questions on the internal model boards [14:39] *** MrsRowdy has joined #netsurprise [14:39] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v MrsRowdy [14:39] look at this LilBiggzI made it from [14:39] those message boards we have are like a contact place between viewers and models. too hook up [14:39] Hi MrsRowdy! [14:39] JP's content [14:39] Good afternoon everyone :-) [14:39] Hi MrsRowdy [14:39] hiya MrsRowdy :) [14:39] http://www.slutsnacks.com/gina/gina.html [14:40] all from content he has on the front of his site [14:40] Hiya wb ... I mean MrsRowdy :))) [14:40] Hi Frank, Go4LiveCam_JP, WillyB :-) [14:40] tia, did you change the color a bit to blue or so ? [14:40] LOL Rowdy...hi and I'll deal with that later...heheheh [14:40] lol rowdy! [14:40] looks a bit different i guess. or i never seen it at daytime lol [14:41] no, I just put an image as background, and used gifs and jpgs in an image map [14:41] I cleaned up the images a lot [14:41] it loads in 17 seconds on a 56K :) [14:41] tia u leaving words out of your sentences is not helping me focus today [14:41] lol [14:41] there are huge differences in cameras models are using on the site. [14:41] sorry LilBiggz hit enter prematurly [14:41] from digital video to $20 webcam. [14:42] lol [14:42] tia... that looks great for a possible pop up ad as well! [14:42] but not always digitial video is the better show for viewers. some just want to chat nicely. [14:42] that's what it is Rowdy.. a blur console [14:43] and dont care much about nudity or hardcore. just having someone to talk and see reactions in terms of face impressions or audio talk if the model got a microphone connected [14:43] so tia what did you do, the big graphic to the right? [14:43] i c .. thought it was a half page ad.... welll.. then that would make a great half page as well ....lol [14:43] hummm, I have some "exhibitionist" domains I'll be publishing, this might work well,lol [14:43] I agree Rowdy! [14:43] all I did was take what JP already has on his site, sharpened up the pics a little, and made an image map [14:44] kewl, thanks [14:44] exhibitionist sites, dating type of sites. anything where people look for something real :-) [14:44] and that's what you can do LilBiggz.. you don't need to buy any content to promote this [14:44] yeah, we dont edit anything. but webmasters can use whatever they want and improve it. [14:44] it got me, I'll have you know. Geeez I'm a sucker [14:45] we provide it raw and uncensored :-) [14:45] lol [14:45] hot of the press [14:45] interesting for niches and fetishes [14:45] our platform is hosted in liberal holland [14:45] yes JP, my mind is working now :)) [14:45] they were just 2 big... lol [14:45] so people can do smoking herbs shows, peeing shows, fisting etc. [14:45] no limits as on US based platforms [14:46] of course models have to check their local obscenity laws when living in the usa. [14:46] *** we69 has joined #netsurprise [14:46] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v we69 [14:46] Hi we69 [14:46] hi we69 [14:46] hi we69 [14:46] you said you had other content to build with JP is that available yet? [14:46] hi we69 [14:46] *** we69 Quit (QUIT: User exited) [14:47] not other content, but compiling easy downloadable pacs of what is there. [14:47] there are thousands of pics [14:47] oh I see [14:47] and hundreds of hours of video [14:47] we will put some clips together for people who want to promote it with little videos [14:47] like on movie posts [14:47] I didn't join, I probably should have.. lol [14:47] excellent JP! [14:47] or as some clips for their sites. [14:47] so your saying I can mess with the graphics on these things and no one gets pissed? [14:48] right LilBiggz now you got it!! [14:48] :)) [14:48] uh oh... LilBiggz is thinking again about graphics....lol [14:48] damn i wish this was on audio :p [14:48] ok [14:48] j/k :) [14:48] lol Rowdy [14:48] lol [14:48] lol Rowdy!1 [14:48] lol Kre8t0r [14:48] * tia can't wait to see what LilBiggz comes up with :) [14:48] doin too many things at once here.... [14:49] me thinking is real dangerous [14:49] ok time to sit down and scroll [14:49] here is a peek account for you guys :-) for all free live shows or replay videos and galleries [14:49] ya it really is LB.. lol [14:49] not for pay live shows. [14:49] more a press account [14:49] www.go4livecam.com [14:49] yep, having some pics and clips to work with will help alot [14:49] name: pr_dream password: check30 [14:50] we also remodeled the www.go4livecash.com site a bit. there are banners and some more info on the site. parts of our press release printed in avn online is there. [14:50] cool JP [14:50] we started this site mostly on networking contacts [14:50] this is great JP! [14:50] not promoted big time to strangers yet. only to people first from chatrooms and a few selected boards. [14:51] looks great [14:51] that's a good way to see how letting people use the content is going to affect you [14:51] Wow...that's cool JP!! [14:51] *** Da_MoBu1 has joined #netsurprise [14:51] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Da_MoBu1 [14:51] that way it is better to work together with webmasters and with the webmaster sponsors model or webmaster program commissions the circles get bigger and bigger [14:52] yes, and you know all of us which helps keep things the way you want them to be [14:52] right willy already has 2 webmasters :p [14:52] WillyB is da man ! [14:52] lol [14:52] hehe [14:52] hehe..he sure is!! [14:52] * tia pops a cap [14:52] LOL [14:52] rofl tia! [14:52] lol [14:53] we still wait for DoraP and WillyBcDc to join as models [14:53] should i invest my time into toplists? [14:53] Get the Buzz about the Bizz at http://www.adultbuzz.com/ - The Adult Buzz! [14:53] hehehe [14:53] taping some karaoke duo [14:53] * tia would pay to see that :) [14:53] now that i can promote !!!! [14:53] lol [14:53] rofl [14:53] *** Da_MoBu Quit (Connection reset by peer) [14:53] we dont really limit what to show there. there is a softcore area. where you also could do a cooking show [14:54] hahahaha JP! [14:54] I hope you are not holding your breath or anything! [14:54] lol [14:54] lmao!! [14:54] lol [14:54] naked cooks [14:54] I could do a cooking show! Kitchen utensils have so many uses! [14:54] JP, I was gonna take a peek via the peek account info you gave and it's not letting me in. What am I doing wrong,LOL don't I just put that in the member info boxes? [14:54] I could move to jamaica and do a smoking show! [14:54] lol [14:54] naked cooks with white hats [14:55] hot stoves and naked ass... what a combination....lol [14:55] LOL loveslave [14:55] hahaha loveslave!!! now your thinking! [14:55] do they now :p [14:55] whoa Rowdy.. hahaha [14:55] lol [14:55] frank, it works from here. [14:55] Wisks come in so many shapes and sizes! [14:55] did you type exactly the name incl the underscore pr_dream [14:55] hehehe [14:55] and they are a lot cheaper than traditional dildos! [14:56] got my mind wandering into the gutter again :p [14:56] lol [14:56] lol [14:56] hey Kre8tor...didn;t see ya there! [14:56] I'll show DoraP the log ;) [14:56] the log?lol [14:56] hehe WillyB right on [14:56] I got it, I'm still asleep I guess,lol [14:56] i was hidin :D [14:56] the log of this chat tia! LOLOL! [14:57] Ya know, having met DoraP I don;t think she needs any ideas [14:57] what about another re-marriage. just live streamed worldwide ? [14:57] LOL [14:57] hahaha.. yer quick there WillyB [14:57] raofl! [14:57] taped for 24/7 replay [14:57] that's cool [14:57] oh, i just looked on google [14:57] go4livecam now got over 1800+ links [14:57] cool JP [14:57] some weeks it was 400 out of nowhere [14:57] holy cow JP [14:57] doubt if it will out produce the honeymoon vid JP :p [14:57] lots of model pages get spidered there [14:58] well after today, that number will jump some too.. hehe [14:58] as they are all accessible by the spiders as an open area. [14:58] it is crazy how people find the site when looking in the keyword logs they use on engines [14:58] *** loveslave Quit (QUIT: User exited) [14:58] even in foreign languages like french [14:59] kool! [14:59] hi :-) [14:59] * Sassy^AdultWriters is back after 1h 9m 49s [14:59] that'll help alot [14:59] a french version is planned though, and spanish, possibly japanese [14:59] *** loveslave has joined #netsurprise [14:59] it's being picked up by foreign link lists [14:59] *** HippyDude sets mode: +v loveslave [14:59] wb loveslave [14:59] that happens to us all the time [14:59] plus gay4livecam.com an extra platform for gay man who usually dont like to see any tits [14:59] I made a boo boo! [15:00] wb loveslave [15:00] clicked the wrong x? [15:00] ya I got some frenchies hot linking my stuff [15:00] thanks...i click the wrong things sometimes... [15:00] make sure there are sponsor links on the hot linked stuff LilBiggz [15:01]