Session Start: Wed Sep 18 13:59:34 2002 *** Now talking in #netsurprise *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Rowdy Afternoon all :) hi Rowdy Hello Hi rowdy hi Rowdy *** Joins: Raven (raven@66.82.96.ye064=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Raven *** MrMaryLou sets mode: +o Rowdy hey Raven :) *** Joins: LilBiggz (java@12.222.72.jd86=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v LilBiggz That's ok plc good afternoon, everybody!!!! Hello all hiya, tia :-)) Hi Rowdy, Raven, hehe heya everyone...:- ) Hi Raven and LilBiggz hi LilBiggz!! hiya, frank....rowdy.....MR. M..... hi tia hello Lil Biggz...hey just MR M lol hiya, catty photo..pleasure to meet you rowdy, raven, frank mml Good to see ya LilBiggz So MRM -- you never expounded on these banjos... Jello oh.. now it's off banjos and onto jello *** Joins: Lassiter (lassiter@204.65.74.Wd817=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Lassiter someone broke the newbie board man... So how the hell's everyone been? Hi all! hey, lassiter :-)) Hey Lassiter!!! think it was td Raven!!!!!! hey lassiter LilBiggz.. it's being worked on now :) Hi Frank, pbmax hiya, pbmax :-)) hiya Lassiter Oh on day in the Chat Kre8t0r was busting my stones about being bald and I said Kre8tor every time I see your name I hear Banjos hey Raven! lol How goes it Rowdy? *** Joins: Bobbiekey (bobbiekey@149.99.220.q7395=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Bobbiekey k, spooky hi, bobbiekey :-) Hi Raven..:) not bad Lassiter.. yourself? Hiya Bobbiekey! oh cause if you need a banjo player, I know one. :P Hi Bobbiekey hi Bobbiekey Hi Bobbiekey hi Bobbiekey Busy but still breathing Rowdy ;) Hey Raven!Lassiter!Rowdy! Frank! MrMaryLou! pbmax!plc!Everyone! Hi Lassiter MrM - next time he teases you about balding... tell him you're not balding.... i'm gettin there mml you're just GETTING more HEAD! :) rofl, catty lol CattyPhoto LOL!!!! lol I tell folks my brain is expanding. ;) Lassiter.. breathin seems to keep me happy as well :) ya i wish hehe Lassiter *** Joins: Crawdad (webmaster@67.28.97.GE5=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Crawdad *** Jerry_Springer sets mode: +o Crawdad *** Joins: Deidre (java@24.98.54.ZT62=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Deidre Hi Crawdad heya cd I'll give it just a few more minutes to see if more show up then i'll start :) CRAWDAD!!! Big hugs hi Deidre hiya Deidre, Crawdad Hey Crawdad!Deidre! hiya, deidre :-) hiya crawdad Catty I am bald LOL Hi Crawdad, Deidre hiya Rowdy, Raven, Tia, pbmax Hey deidre..:) Hi Crawdad, Deidre howdy Lassiter My wife is bald... yo frank hmmmm Haloooooooooooo everybody just kidding:-) bald people have very high sex drives.... awwwww that's ok pbmax..wigs are always an option yo, buzzard hey Raven chicks dig bald guys mml ha ha! * tia is glad Buzzard's home :))))))) * Raven loves bald guys hi tia! cool Raven, that explains why the more hair I loose the more I stay hard, lmaoooooo Raven loves me rofl...frank MRM - I know, but the joke only works if you say "balding" :P Tevie tia good for Buzzard!! LOL hi, plc..didn't see you there :-) Mr M - lets just say... you spent many years getting more and more head! Hi Tev rof Pixmasters- 10,000 pics for Everyday!! 100's of niches 100's models from the Mild to the Wild! http://www.pixmasters.com/ glad you're home, buzzard tev's not here....is he? where did tevie go oops...LOL:) tia just wants me to fly over there and give her a good spankin he's working, mr. m.... lol getting confused, it happened after I went bald.:) MR M - lets just say, I am "getting more head" TOO. :) glad to be home Raven welcome home Buzzard :) Being bald can't be all that bad... I mean guys that are bald wake up, run their hand over their head once and they're good to go.. Meanwhile those furry fucks like me have to spend an hour getting the hair untangled...lol I have a receeding face lmao MrMaryLou tanks Bobbiekey:) i'm in real deep shit then pic...lol Rowdy: we were talking about the hair on your HEAD! ;) just grow the hair on your back really long and comb it up and over MML I been pulling all nmy hair out! *** Joins: Go4LiveCash_JP (jp@67.34.204.wM265=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Go4LiveCash_JP rowdy tell you what, you start to go bald and see how you feel... :P Lassiter.. so was I .. what head you rubbin in the mornings? hahahaha lolol lol Crawdad hello JP I am bald fat and proud LOL how d'ya think I got bald pbmax..:) lol plc! MRM - I think it's called a "bear" :D I'll never tell, Rowdy ;) I wanna start a BBM site Catty Must know me LOL MrM - we met at Philly AWE Cool sorry dont remember the nic I can see the site now -"Sleek Sensual Skulls" *** Quits: Go4LiveCash_JP (Connection reset by peer) Thats okay I dont think I gave you my card LOL:) Lasiter lol Lassiter I am the one who took the pic of you n bunny cool :) she never sent it to me kinda makes ya wonder where that saying "skull fuck" came from huh? Things that make ya go hmmmmm....lol bunny?did someone say bunny??(that was said for Rowdy's benefit) yeah she didn't come back the next day, either. ok, I guess there' no reason not to start *** Quits: Raven (Ping Timeout) haha Crawdad.. knew it wouldn't get pass ya :) Yeah she dumped me :-) go for it Frank.:) can I get a sandwich first? Is ANS loading for everyone? fetish1 just told me it's not for her :( peanut butter and jelly pbmax? what kind of sandwich yeah where is the buffet Crawdad it was your trun Howd ya know? LOL turn that is Frank.. it should be now Working fine here Frank could do with a bite myself... can I have a crawfish ettoufee? ok, cool Oh no! No fetish1? I'll bite you, plc hehhe thanks Deidre...later.:) =\ *** Joins: Strohm3 (Strohm3@141.151.18.dt34=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Strohm3 may have been a brief board problem.... me?i got tv dinners and ramen noodles, is that ok? bit stiff today 'eh Frank skull fuckin biting, is this the newbie chat? we had some technical difficulties, lmaoooo we believe ya Frank..:) Hi Strohm3 hi Strohm3 Dam had to sneak in the back door...hehehehe okkk, many times before we have discussed things like theme and focus, site design, etc.... Hi Strohm3 got some penis butter cups...(said for bobbiekey's benefit) *** Joins: Raven (raven@66.82.96.Zn120=) LilBiggz.. of course.. no subject we won't touch on....lol *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Raven wb Raven lmaoooooo Hello everyone People can have there own approaches to sales..... wb Raven...hope the landing was soft..:) lol it never is, with this (*&(*&(* satellite, plc :-) heheh but overall there are a few basic concepts to gaining interest in what you are pushing..... i'm on dialup now Raven cuz the satelite bit the dust two minutes before the chat started *** Joins: TwiceShy (nunya@172.166.56.rP288=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v TwiceShy ok.. official chat is on now I call it my "3 Steps To Sales".... hiya Twiceshy hi TwiceShy Hi Twiceshy! mine waited, crawdad, until we were well into the chat :-)) hey Crawdad hi, twiceshy writing fast Frank...keep going..:) this is chat? :O hi pbmax * Bobbiekey waves to TwiceShy then proceeds to listen to Frank... shhh, frank is talking hi Raven lol hello Rowdy lol time to check them mail and get food lmaooo Crawdad ?me waves to Bobbiekey *** Quits: hexa (Connection reset by peer) *** MrMaryLou changes topic to "~*\!/*~Welcome to Netsurprise Newbie Chat!Today is Wednesday - September 18th, 2002 ~*\!/*~ - Adult Webmasters Only!!!" anywayyyy..... lol come on Frank, my pecil's wilting..:) 3 steps to sales....i'm with ya, frank pencil that is * Bobbiekey bites a giggle... plc.. time for a blue pill then ;) heheh what I call 3 Steps To Sales is "Setup", "Followup", and "Execute".... sounds like a plan! indeed... execute....sounds like how i feel when my sales are down Set up starts from the very start of site building.... i need more direction frank...lol It has to do with many things. The theme and niche of your site as well as the description.... When you are listed with link list that is the first place that your sales begin.... and type of site? I have a Red Pencil Box So Setup and Planning is the same thing more or less... correct Frank? *** Joins: Ron (Ron@66.82.100.5v21=) hi Ron *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Ron hi Ron Your "description" can play a vital part. When a surfer clicks that link that means they are "specifically" interested in a certain thing.... hey Ron hi ron So that is the "start" of a setup.... hi Ron hiya tia, Bobbiekey, LilBiggz, Rowdy:) hi pbmax heya Ron Hi Ron hey TwiceShy plc, hiya Ok Frank... that makes sense..let them see what you describe... When a surfer gets to your site you must remember this and show them exactly what they came looking for... So the "entrance" page along with the site description in the link list correspond to the "setup" of the site and surfer.... *** Joins: fetish1 (java@208.51.43.bL45=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v fetish1 hi fetish1 HI fetish1 :)))) hey fetish1!!:)) hi fetish1 10Hi Frank fetish1...fashionably on time...:-)) LilBiggzzzzz ya made it Hi Fetish1 Hey fetisg1 lol Hiya Raven, I tired! Hello Rowdy :) The worst mistake that many webmasters make is to "loose" there surfer or the surfers attention. ya done good...girlfriend :-)) *** Quits: Crawdad (Connection reset by peer) Agreed Frank.. keep it centered and simple at the start plc, hiya,LOL pbmax, nice try ;-) my clocks always an hour off.... excuses excuses lol ut oh..... moofie got Crawdad ooops! lolol okay stay simple all the way..:) * CattyPhoto passes strawberries and cream throughout the room so now, we have a interested surfer at out entrance page.... *** Joins: Go4LiveCash_JP (jp@68.17.213.kx890=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Go4LiveCash_JP hi JP hi, JP.... they came looking for something specific.... hi jp hi JP Hi JP hiya JP out with the whips now Frank?or hammer and nails maybe? they came looking for free pics usually so NOW the "followup" starts.... *** Joins: Crawdad (webmaster@64.157.33.Uf63=) wb Crawdad *** Jerry_Springer sets mode: +o Crawdad *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Crawdad using what you know the surfers interest is you followup by designing your pages to keep a "flow" to them.... wb Crawdad! wb Crawdad wb crawdad ty wb Crawdad Just as if you were reading a book and turning the pages. thanks all You don't want to have a interested surfer on the entrance and loose them on the mainpage by throwing some other crap at them. agreed Frank yep still with ya Frank..:) keep a "flow" going to the text... yep you're right Frank.. I see sites all the time that have sponsor banners that have nothing to do with the niche the site's about With every click they "theme and flow" should become a bit more intense and slowly keep gaining more of the surfers interest... anyone have any questions to this point? Pixmasters- 10,000 pics for Everyday!! 100's of niches 100's models from the Mild to the Wild! http://www.pixmasters.com/ nope... keep the sites simple, and to the point... easy enough to understand :) i follow you so far frank.... This is another eson why good TEXT skills are important... reason no, your theme and flow is fine, we're waiting for you to turn the next page. :P lol CattyPhoto We don't have the advantage of being face to face with people and talking to them so we have to 'guide" them through our text... if they don't understand the page in a couple of seconds.. it's too complicated keep going Frank, we're all behind ya.:) This is where matching the content to the sponsor is important, right? content, text, look .. all to the sponsor for better results :) but... is it ok to use intriguing text to lure them to your site?... Just throwing up banners and graphic won't get the point accross... sure Bobbiekey..... Hello Lassiter, didnt see ya when I came in But you also have to remember.... you have to lassoo them and drag them along..:) Hi Fetish1 ;) I think to a point we can go overboard..... keep things short and sweet. yet to they point.... surfers a quick and not much for reading unless you are doing a story site.lol I like to use one sponsor only on my freesites.. the way I figure it is.. why confuse surfers with too many choices.. concentrate on one sponsor, and sell the hell out of it frank are talking about me again...lol Bobbiekey, yes as long as that intriguing text still has a similar focus.. otherwise... traffic of no value is likely to respond so.... say what you can.. in the smallest amount of words possible... I try to use two sponsors per site/ you mean guys without plastic Frank?..:) Bobbiekey... bingo! :) That be what it's all about You also can't get so indepth with words that they surfer may say "What does that mean?" lol :)) ! Short direct phrases Buy or Die.... yes Bobbiekey, think about magazines in the check out lines at the store.... words over four letters and you lost them..:) *** Joins: Bestat (Idont@216.229.45.ob37=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Bestat No questions...just commands. ;) Hi, Bestat :-)) they are designed to get quick interest bin just a few words. Frank.. a good example of that is how some folks describe a trial membership... don't waste time on that... use that space to get them into the site with or without a trial! Mentioning it.. maybe... harping on it hurst though IMO Hi Bestat Hi Bestat Hey Raven hi bestat Hi Bestat! Hi Bestat Hi Lassiter and plc Hi Bestat hi Bestat!!! hello bestat ok... i see what you mean.... think headlines!.. those headlines that make people buy those mags Ok...hello everyone!LOL hey Bestat! exactly Rowdy.... Another great point..... To me it is OUR job to get the surfer hot and bothered to go to the sponsor.... anybody want a bad dog?I'll mail him to you in pieces... I agree there..:) thats good to know guys cuzz i'm text challenged to start with right... always good to "prime" a surfer than compared to sending one in and just seeing what happens we don't need to waste space going over what they will tell them again anyway.... awwwwww poor Crawdoggie The sponsor is the closer, NOT us. :) he tore my stereo speaker! there's no such thing as a bad dog, crawdad....LOL Me to LilBiggz... * Bobbiekey gulps! and that's where it all falls down Humpty he's hiding now, he got a whoopin Poor crawdog Crawdad, there are no bad dogs, just overly spunky ones ;-) ok, now that we have talked about "setup" and "followup" lets talk about "execute"..... poor lil guy.. :( ok Frank... wimper wimper what I mean by that is this..... putting that damned stereo speaker in crawdawg's way lol Raven that's right Raven... bad Crawdad.. c'mere Crawdoggie.. Raven and Bobbiekey will make it all better... shoot 'em Frank? lol plc going along with the flow of text, toward to end you always need to make things to where it's a easy click to get them to the sponsor... lol so, we get 'em hot and bothered ... turn 'em over to the sponsor ... and never hear another word ... what then ????? Deidre.. then you get more traffic and try again :) get checks Deidre, enjoy the income lol sometimes having text in one place, then somewhere way down the page the sponsor link isn't always good.... i was hoping there was a moral to the storie lmao LilBiggz geez, i'm getting a lecture from Raven I find it's good to give them several places to click to the same thing You always ned to present your sponsor text easily to access and hopefully make the flow part of your text... lolol! I'm getting tired of doing a good job and the sponsors don't close 'em! me too Deidre! Maybe its time to change sponsors, or look at how much you are sending Deidre that must be where the execute comes into play Well Deidre, I have no idea what your conversions are. Many times people are doing normal and don't realize it. sponsors do need to be able to close the sale... but at the same time... if they don't have what you primed the surfer for.. who failed? I mean you don't send a die hard checy lover that is looking for a new car over to a ford dealership and expect a sale (unless they have used chevies of course...lol) deidre mabye your gettin em to worked up been there, done that, fetish1 lol, rowdy... and the sponsor is a let down venturi's not here...for that remark!