*** Now talking in #netsurprise *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Rowdy LOL Hiya all :) hihi Rowdy Hi Rowdy! Hiya Rowdy! *** Joins: plc (plc2030@172.180.135.hF89=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v plc hey plc! hiya plc Hi Everyone.;) Hi Frank..Lassiter.:) hihi plc wazzzzzzup HI brb.. got to answer an e-mail real quick *** Joins: TD-workn (abc@64.91.53.KO7=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v TD-workn TD :) woo lots of ppl I haven't seen in months hey there zoink :) wazzup man? Hi TDavid, hope ya had a nice few days off :) just got back from a little R & R Hi TDavid mmmmm, R&R :) titties rock Hi TDavids Rock & Roll? LOL went down to hot august nights in reno, saw all the old cars and stuff cool! i don't know much about cars, but i think the cars of the 50s 60s look much better than the cars of today lol I would hate to know their miles/gallon though lots of metal in them badboys I'd have to agree, TDavid Everything looks so homogenized now No character *** Joins: TiBo (TiBoWeMa@24.49.99.D133=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v TiBo oooohhhh that's a big word Lassiter..:) a 57 chevy or a 2002 chevy, hmmmm hi guys :) hi tia plc :P * ZoiNk will go for a 2003 ferarri over those ;) Hiya TiBo hi Tibo hey there tibo! and hello tia and plc :) *** Joins: FoxXxie (seanmellet@194.145.135.DR011=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v FoxXxie *** Quits: FoxXxie (Connection reset by peer) hey plc, Lassiter, Zoink, Frank, TD :) Hi TiBo & tia morning tia girlie Hi folxs. hey Tibo Hiya FoxXxie Sorry.. back now.. Hi to all those I mnissed hi tia hey Rowdy :) *** Joins: FoxXxie (seanmellet@194.145.135.de779=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v FoxXxie Hi Rowdy hey there rowdy :) and wb foxXxie how goes it? :) 'sup FoxXxie? Hi all Enjoy yourself TD? Hi all Quit a few NEW names I see. Very cool! maybe a few more will strangle in shortly, lol it was that teaser post you made Frank lol straggle that is :( got my curiosity up dammit, I have to go and find a teaser post now? lol *** Joins: MrMaryLou (PirchGuest@141.150.205.ZA076=) *** Jerry_Springer sets mode: +o MrMaryLou *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v MrMaryLou wasn't that good tia? LOL yes, except for some stress the first night. We booked a room through an internet travel site and when we showed up the hotel said the travel agency had overbooked and they didn't even show us, so we had to go elsewhere for the room. But then they still banged our credit card (the internet travel site) and of course they have no phone number, so my wife it on it now lol yep.. hehe Hi MrMaryLou seeing all the new names shows me you have broke rule #1 oopsthats fight clubsorry Hello all LOL lol hi MrMaryLou TD.. that bytes.. go get em :) *** officer_afk is now known as Officer Hi MrMary HHey hey everyone :) hi Officer Hi MrMaryLou hiya Officer :) so who be all these new names I see? Are they newbies or oldbies.LOL Hiya officer * ZoiNk is oldie * tia is the oldiest * ZoiNk just hasn't been in here much the past year+ hi rowdy, tia, frank FoxXxie, I don;t think I have ever meet you either. :( *** Quits: Rasputin (Connection reset by peer) Are u tia?I thought I was LOL * TD-workn thinks we all are newbies Newbie, myself... nope Lassiter.. I think I win.. lol Frank, U reviewed my site last night - thank you * TiBo is a newbie. I am trying to find info on how you create a html file. I thought that was you foxxxie *** Quits: Lassiter (Connection reset by peer) well.. we are always thinking around here on how to offere even more or better stated... what folks can use! So, today's chat is basically us wanting some suggestions from you folks on an idea we have been tossing around :) lol Tibo Exclusive Content - Specializing in Anime, Hentai, Bishojou and Toon Content! Amazing Adult Comics Feeds Too! Why be like everyone else? Be Exclusive! http://www.exclusivecontent. com/ Hi Loregray, welcome. You're in the right place. Good to have ya. :) * ZoiNk laughs at tibo, sure, just saw you had a bunch of AVS tutorials out there Thanks Frank. hiya Loregray Damnit!Apparently I'm not foolin anyone. Hey tia. fooled me lol don't you just save the file as ... html, Tibo? Damn I did. Hey, that's what I get for being up 2 days. Brain is getting fried. LOL lol ok, who here hasn't made a voice post (scanning list of names) Lie down Frank..take some soup..:) * tia raises her hand me TD-workin, What program do you use to save? I'm glas some of you have came out of lurking and started posting on the boards too... * ZoiNk raises his hand please gimme all your excuses now, i got a pen handy I don't want to don't have my speaker hooked up I don't speak..:) errr that's where you can really get the help and start meeting people and making some friends.:) I'm new.. heh microphone i don't speak? lolol nopedon't speak...heheh Session Close: Wed Aug 07 14:17:37 2002 Session Start: Wed Aug 07 14:18:31 2002 *** Now talking in #netsurprise *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Rowdy wb rowdy :) C-Munk reminds me of a young Lassiter on speed in the 70s LOL ty wb Rowdy Couldn't get back in there for a few well darn. Hope rowdy isn't having connection problems cause I was gonna get him to announce what today's topic is about. there he is!!! talk fast Rowdy :) microsoft mary = digitized speech (er, maybe too much of an inside tech joke) Rowdy, when ya wanna start? C-Munk reminds me of Morton Downy (the original one) smoking helium cigarettes. we can now ....... Basic idea we need input on.... LOL TiBo *** MrMaryLou sets mode: +o Rowdy *** MrMaryLou sets mode: +o Frank *** Joins: HotLipsHooligan (java@12.232.225.sX76=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v HotLipsHooligan Hiya HotLipsHooligan! We are thinking of putting together a "newbie basic pack" and are wondering what all we can include. We presently are think of course a site template or two as well as an easy to use html file with article, board, sponsor links and so forth hiya HotLipsHooligan! Hola !!! *** Retrieving #netsurprise channel info... hey HotLips!!! Hi Tia, Lassiter!!! Content Rowdy, do something on picking hosting and content. that is something ppl have problems with that's a wonderful idea Rowdy.. everything is so scattered at ans Hello Hotlips *** Rowdy changes topic to "~*\!/*~ Today is Wednesday - August 7th, 2002 ~*\!/*~ Welcome to Adult NetSurprise Chat - Adult Webmasters Only!!! Newbie Chat!(Please Connect on irc.dokk.com for the time being!) " Hi Rowdy, Buzzard, WillyB... and everyone else :) Rowdy: Sounds like a great idea. so since we have a lot of newbie here it seems it would be good to hear from some of you as to what you may need or want. A special hello to the king of all BBW's MrMarylou :) *** Retrieving #netsurprise channel info... this is true Zoink hey HotLipsHooligan how about some urls to trials of programs.. our clients are always needing that :) ok.. hosting and content choices/articles from ZoiNk trials of programs tia? There is a BBW monarchy? hehehe, no :> I don't write I think maybe the free site template is a bit "busy" and confusing without some accompanying step-by-step guide to what it all is. LOL Tibo i love those tutorials that ebay has, something along those lines would be really helpful i bet ZoiNk.. I meant the idea from you :) yes, either free programs, or ones that offer free trials heheeh, good :) *** Quits: sixzeros (QUIT: User exited) tia, yea, ellaborate on that? Laugh now folks gimme a few years and I will a have the Kings BBW Ball LOL they walk you along and move the cursor and have audio (digitized) too like an html editor.. a graphic program, an ftp program etc. stuff laid out in small bites without assuming that all newbies know even a little bit would help maybe? also, maybe understanding stats. What ppl mean by ratios, uniques, sales, converions, shaving, etc. Basic terms used by sponsors and other ppl in the industry Good idea tia. aww.. those type programs... ok.. got ya :) good idea but there are hundreds of sponsors out there How about a fetish or niche dictionary?I see lots of people advertising fetishes completely wrong how to use an ftp client and make your first raw html page is probably the start, isn't it? I was trying to figure out why they would want to joina free trial on a pysite....lol lol plc: Yes...when I first got that free site template, if I hadn't had a lot of prior HTML experience, I wouldn't have made heads or tails of some of it PS... Hi Frank :) if you tell them what ftp is yes,many don't even know that What about a pre-recorded video of how to from a to Z php related stuff true TDavid, good idea TD.. I think the actual start should be get a plan and decide on what type of site .. then go with html and sales style that's a good idea MrM.. it's very hard to explain with just text.. a video or some screen shots included would be good Foxxxie: Is php stuff really needed for us newbies? hmmm MrMaryLou .. interesting :) How to submit to AVS sites. Newbies have trouble with the basic form struture, members URL, etc, and that they don't need cgis locally, etc. good point, rowdy, i mean from a technical standpoint of how to do it I don't even know php, lol knowing what to do of course is vital first lol lol some realize that TD .. some don't ... hahaha information on setting up a domain too would be good I think MrML's idea is great,would be easy for them to flip back and forth and even put a 'still' on to study stuff ZoiNk yep I just wrote my first lines of PHP last night. The first thing a newbie should do is surf at least a hundred free and avs sites and tgp gallerries and a few pay sites to boot before they even think about starting they don't do that though MrMaryLou, exactly, but no one ever mentions that Loregray......not sure.....it's been bugging me for some reason I think MrMaryLou's idea is good to. Just who will do it is the problem.LOL Good call MML.In fact I should go do that now. who has a cam..LOL:) I think an HTML tutorial using screen shots would work better than a video.Something like Barry's step-by-step graphics tutorials maybe there should be step one which is the planning and step 2 which is the doing -- I'll do the audio part... LOL and step 3 which is the finishing the doing i'm serious though yep Lassiter, screen shots seem to work very well *** Joins: Midnight (Midnight@24.62.21.V3367=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Midnight if everything is broken into small parts it will be fine Show the HTML code on one side of the screen, and what the result looks like on the other side. well, we will provide links to the HTML tutorials that are in the zones. wouldn't that be enough? Hi Midnight Hey folks, don't let me interrupt Hiya Midnight hi Midnight * Midnight waves actually I was thinking of screen caps of the actual program and where all the icons are and so forth ... just like Barry does with photoshop they are a bit overwhelming to newbies Frank...too much too soon without understanding what things actually mean hi Midnight!!! Hi Midnight Frank: Yes, maybe, or else just add some example screen shot graphics to the existing tutorials hey HotLips, Frank, Rowdy Man they gotta crawl before they walk and walk before they run that is the root of all evil with newbies they wanna get rich in a week hey tia I've seen that as a problem for a long time. There are many tutorials and good info in the various zones but no one ever goes to them.LOL have you guys seen those ebay tutorials? Really they are well done if one can't learn from those, they need to go fry burgers instead MrMaryLou..I've been willing to wait a month or two LOL no TD .. I'll check them out though pass me the burger pan,,LOL:) LOL i believe they are done with html and some javascript, no flash needed ... although i've also seen some killer flash tutorials some good ideas tia The reason I was talking about vids I have taken the time to try the graffics course and to be honest I am lost with it. I think its great but I can seen to learn from it illustrated graphics with animation works well for learning curves Most Newbies dont even know what the hell html is let alone teach it to them actually I'm that way to MrMaryLou. I rarely get anything from on-line. I teach myself via books and videos as well. What are graphics? lol MrMaryLou: Yes I have that problem occasionally, but I think it's 'cause PS is such a complex program too true, I'll also recommend in there to go to there local bookstore and buy a html book.LOL you could animate the tags and add a small popup description as you go along u gotta love it tho This might seem silly, but I retain thing better from paper ... I always print stuff out, if I'm trying to absorb it I still have my HTML3.) right here on my desk. are there any good programs where you can annonate video? Boy that sounds like a lot of work i remember putting together a video in high school ... video editing can be time consuming There are a lot of good resouces online for teaching basic HTML. Like: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/ yup, good point Loregray, we can put links in there as well... another good thing might be a list of people who are willing to give icq support I think a newbie pack should consentrate more on the less available adult portion of the buz err biz actually we have those in the contributed links section of the newbie zone good one tia True but I think if we could spread things out about ie newbie 100, 101, 102 ect ect sorta like a collage God I cant spell mml - that's an awful like lot cozy academy Yes.. we do want these starter packs to have all of what a new webmaster would need but in reality.. we can't cover everything nor make it to easy... there does have to be some effort put out by those that wat to learn as well IMHO we still love you MML you mean like a series of lessons MML..? yes plc but then cozy academy prolly ripped it from somewhere else lol danger in doing things too much like other adult webmaster resource site, IMO icq support tia? you mean which various programs. yes Frank I mean for those who have copies of the AWE books its all there in the book already like denser, dense and not so dense..:) lol icq support for html.. and other programs needed to create websites Cozy Academy does have an excellent niche section though TD how do you get a copy of the AWE books? I think the challenge is making it informative, yet - not overwhelming. *** Joins: Sweets (mjstahl@68.51.220.Uk223=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Sweets *** Parts: Sweets (mjstahl@68.51.220.Uk223=) Hi Sweets Hi Sweets A Glossary of Terms the one handed out at the AWE get togethers? I think cozy academy is excellent, I was just pointing out that the 101,102,103 thing has been done :) Yes Oh... duh My bad... :) didn't see any html in there...? so was k-12 but I though Id use that as an example LOL lol the is html there is that is humm actually the k-12 thing isn't such a bad idea and I don't think anybody is doing that in adult, are they? actually ans already has all this stuff.. it's just scattered.. what you want is to get the best of each area, and put it into a pack correct? how about people put forward a planfor it...on the newbie board,then they can be reviewed and maybe draw the best bits from each one? anyone know a script or code sniplet that will convert YYYY-MM-DD to a persons AGE true tia, most is all there in what lang pwp? PHP and you're right.. it's overwhelming to a newbie to come to ans and see so much stuff.. a pack would work very well to start them off yea, if we don't making "it" overwhelming too, lol a welcome wagon pack for the newbie webmaster from ans :) HUMM yup LOL welcome wagon What about a Survial Pack the hardest part is knowing where to start..........a good point earlier in telling them to check out TGPs and Link Lists and to take notes db to age, hmmm, i did that for someone last year, pwp survival.. lol LMAO MML lol meaning to to survie use this i had a code some where that did it too and can't find it lemme poke around here and see if i can find it for you well with the new newbie zone we have the new templates, the projects, etc... plus all the other newbie related stuff throughout so it's there for sure except for maybe a few things. Thanx *** Joins: Cue (java@24.79.105.Bk3=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Cue is that from mySQL? YYYY-mm-dd ? I think with all the contributed links included.. it really IS all there Frank knew what ya meant but that name might do as much damage as anything...lol.... I can hear now... survival pack? what's in in... a lawyers number? LOL pulled from db and we'll include Rowdy's home phone number to in case anyone needs assistance. LOL MYsql you could do a straight query too with that if it's only a few rows of data lol Frank Why not his address? bullshit Frank.... lol.. had 700 in phone bills last month already :) or just have him make house calls i like the survival pack theme LMAO Hey Rowdy... I'd trade phone bills with you any day...lol TD it is a dating siteso if the do a search for profile it could pull ton ofinfo it has to search gotta go talk to ya'll later, hope to see at least some of you at the show this weekend!Stop by the Cybererotica booth and look me up! see ya Officer :) bye Officer There has gotta be away to talk to newbies via of voice in a class room situation like yahoo chat has audio bye Officer *** Parts: Officer (officer@66.82.32.Kd4=) make a CD..? If we had that format we could kick some ass it is for this site TD http://www.cdnpersonal.com/redo for translating the DOB to age to display in profile I really like the sponsor idea too. But darn, there are hundreds out there. So it would be hard to gather info without just limiting it to a few. we're doing that right now MrM.. problem is.. it's hard to field questions if there are more than a couple can do vid and adio on a cd audio some thing like this code but this code i have is not to accurate Function agemake($month,$year) { $yr=date('Y'); $mo=date('m'); $age=$yr-tranyr($year); if ($month<=$mo) return $age; else return $age-1; Midnight Digital - 5000 Pics free with your order of See our FREE CD OFFER! http://www.midnightdigital.com/ *** Joins: Sweets (mjstahl@68.51.220.Ye601=) *** SurpriseBot sets mode: +v Sweets you might want to private me that code , pwp, don't know if they want the newbie chat interupted hi Sweets hi sweets hey ya ladies and gents. opps sorry well, TDavid is the audio guru, and we have the audiozone know. Dunno, maybe something can come of it. hi Sweets :) a sort of talking lesson shop...sounds good..:) Can we do that TD audio chat anything that can be typed can be spoken so what is everyone up to today? Just hanging out? Newbie chat Sweets I mean voice chat 15 minutes of the newbie chat left Oh newbie chat, I see that now... damnit I missed it... and I am as green as they come. =) I think a lesson for just one person at a time might work.. and everyone else just listen it would be way less confusing that way if pewople submit plans and then those are adapted with audio should go well We could do one on ones could, yes one on one.. with voyeurs.. a lot could be learned from that need a lot of mentors..:) I agree tia. we have always wanted to get 1 newbie to get involved in a chat one day to just to ask questions and such. It would help everyone. *** Quits: Midnight (QUIT: User exited) I'll be the voyeur, as I don't speak..:) the problem with mentor programs plc is that many times the people expect you to do the stuff for them. that's true Frank, been there done that * Sweets will be here 3pm sharp, and can be the newbie guinee(sp?) pig. then to, it can be very time consuming. at the board everyone has a ton of mentors and they don't use it, lol hehe sure they do Frank.. in private lol lol I get a complex sometimes when I'm all alone, lol Frank I agree and bad habits are learned easy hehe What time is the tech chat?5 right? I have to get going folks... I leave for the show tonight, and I've got to go get one more cleavage outfit...LOL yes TiBo cya Hotlipshave a great time see ya HotLips :) TiBo: oh excellent... a little bit more up my alley. 4 my time,LOL Central I'll see some of you at the show... have a safe trip!Bye everyone :) did someone say cleavage c'ya HotLipsHooligan bye See ya HopLips. c ya HotLips MML... you're a scoundral... catch y'all later. *** Quits: TiBo (QUIT: User exited) buhbye :)~ *** Quits: HotLipsHooligan (QUIT: User exited) * tia wonders if she put nipples on her butt if it would look like cleavage.. hmm well, alot of great ideas for sure :) lol LOL Is someone being helped right now... or do I have time for a question... go when you do Tia, let us see, we'll let you know..LOL:) what's up Sweets? lol damnit tia, that broke my concentration when writing my last statement! lol tia: Its a new niche tittybum.com "Brunette Butt Nipples" Its about PicPosts... which is what I am working on right now... I noticed throughout many of the webmaster sites, there is very little mention (anymore) of them...I don't think they are dead but why the silence... I find them to be a great idea. what's a PicPost? Sweets: Its like TGP...can be real bandwidth intensive if ya cant sell 'em plc: well that would explain why there isn't many articles. =) Sweets, I have always wanted to try them, never tried :) well us newbies need to know these things..:) the work like a toplist does Lassiter: I figured they would be less bandwidth intensive seeing as the pics are drawn from the posting site. well, personally for me I have never had any luck with them. But you do have a point there's not much info on PicPost oh are they?The ones I've seen arent But I cant claim deep familiarity LOL Oh well then I think that is kinda dumb... the only good articles I have seen is on theadultwebmaster.com on The Profit Project, by Stephen. Ravenia submitted to a couple but they all drew from her server No sales We were young and crazy ;) ahthose were the days Lssiter.:) yea, I think that's why the lack of interest lassiter. The only ones I have found that might be making anything are the picpost, if anything Yes indeed plc.March wasnt it? LOL The one I am working on right now focuses on the teen market... www.sweetsteens.com/teenlayout.html (no links work, its just a layout) I dimly remember them..LOL:) picpost are the same as tgp s it takes a certian style to sell and even more style in pics to get them to go into the site Rowdy: that is why I focused on a higher end market... but I have plans for a total of 12 covering individual niches. higher end? it's a pretty saturated market that's one of the hardest to sell. hey Sweets..write a piece on 'how to do it' for the new newbie lessons,:) Hmm, really I thought the opposite... but what do I know.. =) Maybe I will jump right to tranny or hentai next. everyone does teen, there's teen everywhere. LOL:) lol hey, I just got into toons about a month ago and it's friggin rocking my stats show trannies are up this week..:) I love tranny sales :> getting jealous here guys so no one else do tranny, thanks :) Yep.. different times.. different markets... different success levels for all.. just part of the whole game of business :) hehe there weirder it is the better it sells, lol plc: well when I can get some traffic and level out my converstions... right now I am working on templating and building a large foundation... path recognition, banner view/click-thru ratios... I hate HTML so I am working all with PHP and its taking a little longer. Yeah, some of those "Teen" modelas are actually as young as 25 LOL hey i notice a sponsor had midgets too...hehhe midget!!! excellent! true lassiter lol not enough midget content to have a good recurring membership base in my opinion I agree there...need to lobby the sponsors for more midgets I'm lucky I guess, across the board I usually do 1:250 or so with anything, except lesbian :( Will someone explain to some folks..."teen" and big silicone hooters do not match. LOL What is lesbian for ya Frank? lesbians suck for me,lol that's because you whip them into submission Frank...:) lesbian does not sell well? Lassiter: I completely agree. LOL actually I average around 1:50 usually on lesbian lol zoink cool *** ben0zz is now known as ben0 all depends where you get listed and so forth.. just like all niches "amateur" and silicone hooters do not match either IMO ;) heya everyone Does anyone have a few moments to take a look at the general layout of my site and tell me what they think... being I see many faces here I haven't asked before. yup * ZoiNk guesses he should stop calling penthouse centerfolds amateurs? nah it sells hehe post it on the board Sweets LOL ZoiNk the newbie board... ok. Aria Giovanni is one example I still call amateur cool * Sweets is really worried about working on his marketing strategy... that part confuses me the most. ZoiNk: But are they TEEN Penhouse centerfold amateurs? wasn't he a painter ZoiNk..? She's cool. I meet her in Vegas last Jan. Lassiter, to me teen is everything under 30. above 30 is mature :> ROFL there is no inbetween and hey, I have low ratios, so it must work lol ZoiNk: must be nice to live in a black and white world. ZoiNk, I think u grasp the porn marketing concept It is :) * ZoiNk has been doing this for 3+ years well, any last minute inputs. It's time for the chat to end already. My how time flies :( . Thanks guys... I will write up a PicPost article, plc, as soon as I know what the hell I am doing. Great chat Frank...will all come to be I am sure sounds good Sweets we can sure use it :) I do appreciate all the ideas everyone! We'll do some researching now and see what we can come up with :) ok Sweets, will look out for it.:) Frank, maybe devide them into time frames, like day 1, day 3, day 4 for the articles so you can become a master in 55 days Sounds like much fun Rowdy *** Retrieving #netsurprise channel info... or whatever plc: nothing wrong with a little marketing of ones self and helping other's out. WTG Rowdy...I may even learn a speaking part..:) *** Rowdy changes topic to "~*\!/*~ Today is Wednesday - August 7th, 2002 ~*\!/*~ Welcome to Adult NetSurprise Chat - Adult Webmasters Only!!!(Please Connect on irc.dokk.com for the time being!) " Yup, all you folks were greta today. Now we just gotta get all these great ideas put together :) * Lassiter must get back to his RealJob now Take care all u wonderful folx!!! back to building again for me..:) See ya man! * ZoiNk frowns, I need to get ready to go to my massage thearapist cya all folks...be good.:) work would be fun though I have to head out and do some icq's and work. Thanks for being here folks. Come visit us on the board too. see ya'll bye Lassiter plc: have a good day plc. *** Quits: Lassiter (QUIT: User exited) See ya'all over at http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforu m/newbieboard/ See ya ZoiNk. :) Catch ya later.. got some work to do. thanks Sweets...bye all *** Quits: ZoiNk (QUIT: User exited) Session Close: Wed Aug 07 15:04:06 2002