Jul 10 14:00:22 ---WillyB has changed the topic to: The Wednesday Newbie Chat-Todays Topic: * Diversification & Developing a Well Rounded Business Plan * ~*\!/*~ Today is Wednesday - July 10th, 2002 ~*\!/*~ Welcome to Adult NetSurprise Chat - Adult Webmasters Only!!! Jul 10 14:00:30 ---WillyB gives channel operator status to Frank Jul 10 14:00:37 Hi Frank! Jul 10 14:01:15 Hi Lassiter! Jul 10 14:01:48 I figured that after the holidays folks would be getting around again. But I see the boards are still slow :( Jul 10 14:02:09 lol Lassiter Jul 10 14:02:20 always makes me wonder how dedicated people are to doing this LOL Jul 10 14:02:48 <--warlockless1 has quit (QUIT: User exited) Jul 10 14:03:00 Well, I take my lunch hour at my "real" job an hour late on Wed. to join the chat Jul 10 14:03:04 hard to tell what's up Frank Jul 10 14:03:27 I know Lassiter, you're surely one of the ones I don't worry about :) Jul 10 14:03:36 -->TDavidhas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:03:41 NOT one of the ones LOL Jul 10 14:03:43 wb TDavid Jul 10 14:03:43 Hi TDavid! Jul 10 14:03:44 Hi TDavid Jul 10 14:03:46 hiya Frank Jul 10 14:03:50 Hiya TDvaid Jul 10 14:03:59 everybody get in here ok that was using the controller? (this time, not earlier lol) Jul 10 14:04:18 anyone that takes the time through there lunch to try and learn the biz is a winner in my book :) Jul 10 14:04:19 Well, thanks, Frank, though OTOH, I wish I was able to work at this a bit harder than I currently do Jul 10 14:04:22 back Jul 10 14:04:42 hiya hexa Jul 10 14:04:54 I want a gov't grant to stay home and build ;) Jul 10 14:04:57 hi frank Jul 10 14:05:17 darn, I didn't try coming through the controller TDavid, sorry :( Jul 10 14:05:21 and for those that using the controller, the icon should be "red" now in your systray as this event is now live ;)Just doublechecking Jul 10 14:05:22 -->Kre8t0rhas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:05:23 ---WillyBot gives channel operator status to Kre8t0r Jul 10 14:05:27 I came in manually this time TDavid ;) Jul 10 14:05:41 yup, that would work Lassiter, hehe Jul 10 14:05:44 you can exit the room then restart the controller and it should bring you here if you have it set that way in your settings ;) Jul 10 14:06:08 hi Kre8t0r Jul 10 14:06:17 hey Rowdy Jul 10 14:06:19 ok, I'll check that out real quick, BRB Jul 10 14:06:20 -->plchas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:06:25 hiya Kre8t0r Jul 10 14:06:26 this part of the program functionality is still beta so we're working that out still Jul 10 14:06:29 %##% bellsouth!!! Jul 10 14:06:30 hello plc :) Jul 10 14:06:31 Hi evryone Jul 10 14:06:32 <--Frank has quit (QUIT: User exited) Jul 10 14:06:32 Hi Kre8t0r, plc Jul 10 14:06:44 hello there Kre8t0r ;) Jul 10 14:07:01 TD!!! Jul 10 14:07:13 Hi lassiter, Kr8t0r,WillyB< Frank and everyone else..:) Jul 10 14:07:24 hello plc ;) Jul 10 14:07:28 -->Snikkshas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:07:29 Hi TDavid..:) Jul 10 14:07:32 Do ya feel like a proud dad with his newborn, TDavid? ;) Jul 10 14:07:38 hiya Snikks :) Jul 10 14:07:45 hey hey hey Jul 10 14:07:51 Hi Snikks Jul 10 14:07:52 8)) Jul 10 14:07:58 hiya Lassiter Jul 10 14:07:58 lassiter, i've always wished there was a way to hear people, guess that is no longer a wish ;) Jul 10 14:08:04 hey there snikkers Jul 10 14:08:11 Kre8t0r! Jul 10 14:08:14 mate! Jul 10 14:08:23 ben0!!!!!!!!! Jul 10 14:08:52 is phrucking off Jul 10 14:08:57 yeah.. this is VERY Kool TDavid!!! Jul 10 14:35:13 great FULO! Glad to hear that it is of use :)) Jul 10 14:35:19 yes FULO :) Jul 10 14:35:21 anyway.... anyone that knows anything about business knows that one of the most vital key ellimates is "cash flow" Jul 10 14:35:35 yes it's great, coz I always forget until I see it on ICQ. Jul 10 14:35:36 indeed Jul 10 14:36:08 -->LE_TheStatisticianhas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:36:15 well frank i wondered if i cooked up some simple program to record stuff like that if it would be useful to webmasters, that was why i was asking Jul 10 14:36:17 ok folks sorry to interupt, I just got a question. Jul 10 14:36:18 Hi LE Jul 10 14:36:23 hi Lassiter Jul 10 14:36:28 I always say to myself... ok I'm gonna make this one.. then get involved with something and forget.. lol Jul 10 14:36:31 getting the cash to flow in both directions is the answer there Frank..:) Jul 10 14:36:32 as I mentioned though I can make much more money doing say pay-per-signup programs, having recurring income is part of keeping that "cash flow" somewhat streaming ;) Jul 10 14:36:33 it's aboout AVS, if anybody can answer. Jul 10 14:36:36 HEY LE Baby! Jul 10 14:36:38 hi le, do you fun the statistician site? Jul 10 14:36:39 8))))) Jul 10 14:36:46 Hi Snikks sweetie :)) Jul 10 14:36:46 hello LE :) Jul 10 14:36:46 Hi LE Jul 10 14:36:49 ask away FULO Jul 10 14:36:51 Hi nancyporn, yes Jul 10 14:36:52 brb ... phone Jul 10 14:36:55 Booya! Hi LE Jul 10 14:37:02 hey TDavid & Rowdy & FNPSteve Jul 10 14:37:07 ok thanks. Jul 10 14:37:08 *Snikks blushes Jul 10 14:37:08 GREAT resource le, thanks for putting it out there! Jul 10 14:37:15 hiya LE! Jul 10 14:37:23 Thank you :)) Glad to be of service :)) Jul 10 14:37:27 hey tia! Jul 10 14:37:35 huuummm, now that sure is a idea TDavid, I'd sure like to see what could be done :) I know my tracking sheet is real simple. Just the site and the sponso on it LOL Jul 10 14:37:53 Hi LE Jul 10 14:37:57 when ppl mirror sites for AVS, do I mirror the whole folder for another AVS or just the index.htm? Jul 10 14:37:58 hey Frank :) Jul 10 14:38:14 just the index usually Jul 10 14:38:26 so do you guys keep track of goals over say a certain period of time? Like forecasting, monthly, quarterly yearly? Jul 10 14:38:41 thats tough Jul 10 14:38:45 I never set goals TD Jul 10 14:38:51 I do but I don't Jul 10 14:38:52 I have intentions.. that's all Jul 10 14:38:57 FULO, you mean mirroring a free site to use as AVS, or various AVS's? Jul 10 14:39:10 has focus on what he wants to do... Jul 10 14:39:19 does that count? Jul 10 14:39:27 sounds the same as what I do Snikks Jul 10 14:39:29 8) Jul 10 14:39:41 I do TDavid, I keep monthly, quarterly, and yearly stats, etc... Jul 10 14:39:56 so what is your sense of self achievement, tia - when you finish individual projects for clients? Jul 10 14:40:01 FULO mirror your front end, but use the backend for all Jul 10 14:40:02 you look at them much Frank? Jul 10 14:40:03 i'm just curious Jul 10 14:40:18 back Jul 10 14:40:19 TDavid: Never got a chance to thank you before for the Prize I won on Script School! I got the Tom Kurlander CD and it's Super!Thanks Mon!!!! Jul 10 14:40:32 I think urieka works lol Jul 10 14:40:35 hi frank it's mirror to verious AVS, not free site. Jul 10 14:40:40 your welcome mon, always a pleasure seeing you at the show on Friday ;) Jul 10 14:40:43 yea I do tia. I find looking at the actual figures can really tell you more about how you are doing. Jul 10 14:41:23 You can usually just do the index then FULO as LE mentioned. Keep things as simple as possible... Jul 10 14:41:30 I agree Frank Jul 10 14:41:31 it's always a good show ;)why would I want to miss it?! Jul 10 14:41:56 I can look back over my corporate records that we do monthly and see exactly what's happening and has been happening Jul 10 14:41:58 that's the fastest and easiest way FULO Jul 10 14:41:58 notices the nymbers, but does not reflect on em much, too busy getting things done Jul 10 14:42:18 Yet, mirroring a entire sites and submitting it to the search engines will put you more pages on the web and possibly more chances for a search engine listing. Depends on your perspective Jul 10 14:42:20 *Lassiter *has* to go full-time so he can be home to listen to ScriptSchool live LOL Jul 10 14:42:24 are you incorporated rowdy? Jul 10 14:42:27 that's what I was thinking too Snikks Jul 10 14:42:39 yes nancyporn Jul 10 14:42:42 yeah.. that's true Frank Jul 10 14:42:57 Yes..good question.What type of legal setup do people have?Corporation?Sole proprietorship? Jul 10 14:43:02 yikes, that is so official and, well, like a real business...good for you Jul 10 14:43:15 nancyporn .. it is a real business :) Jul 10 14:43:18 I wouldn't change anything thats not broken atm tho LOL Jul 10 14:43:20 8))))))) Jul 10 14:43:38 corporation can include some nice tax advantages and shelter liability Jul 10 14:43:49 It only takes like $250 bucks nancyporn to setup like a solepropriotorship Jul 10 14:43:52 Lassiter.. the laws vary so much state to state that it is best to see a lawyer who will also recomend a good accountant as well as financial investor if you want :) Jul 10 14:43:52 but you have to keep really good records Jul 10 14:43:54 Incorporating seems really complicated from here Jul 10 14:44:00 i'm a realllly rank beginner and it just seems overwhelming to me right now rowdy, nice to see you guys are so official and organized Jul 10 14:44:19 we've all been ther nancyporn :) Jul 10 14:44:27 thanks rowdy :) Jul 10 14:44:31 Raven was *very* insisten that I incorporate in some way ASAP Jul 10 14:44:46 Lassiter.. it's a wise move :) Jul 10 14:44:55 this is a professional business nancyporn. probably the most professional business people that you'll ever meet. some wouldn't think that lol Jul 10 14:45:09 Lassiter are you making enough money that you will have to dig deep in your pockets to pay taxes? Jul 10 14:45:16 not complicated at all lassiter Jul 10 14:45:28 the tax savings as compared to self employed was a very nice side benefit :) Jul 10 14:45:32 I think we may incorporate also.. in DoraP's name so we can get tax breaks .. if they still give them for that Jul 10 14:45:54 did you incorporate for the liability protection also? Jul 10 14:46:02 LE: Probably not this year, but hopefull next. Jul 10 14:46:14 it has many benefits :) Jul 10 14:46:32 ok thanks guys I get it now!.... Jul 10 14:46:40 I don't think there's as much protection as there us to be. I think the company exec can be sued and so forth but not 100% sure Jul 10 14:46:52 Frank: I need your attorney then LOL Jul 10 14:47:12 lol Jul 10 14:47:28 well there is always business liability insurance -- it is available for adult-oriented businesses. we talked about that at script school last year Jul 10 14:47:31 hehe Jul 10 14:47:31 then its something you should plan for next year, don't put off to the last minute to do it. Jul 10 14:47:34 premiums are very expensive naturally Jul 10 14:48:11 LE: Yes, I think I want to have things set up so that the business can become "official" at the beginning of the next tax year Jul 10 14:48:15 There are professionials out there for everything, I would reccomend using them and not try to be a jack of all trades Jul 10 14:48:21 good idea Jul 10 14:48:34 very true Snikks Jul 10 14:49:03 yep Jul 10 14:49:15 i agree too - but shop around for professional advice -- there are good attorneys to be found for $150 an hour, and some really lousy ones at $500 an hour Jul 10 14:49:17 Still, I think most of our web $$$ for this year will likely have to go to pay professionals to help us get set up for next year. :< Jul 10 14:49:20 tax laws and so forth are way to complicated to seriously "play" them part time Jul 10 14:49:36 I guess it's up to each individual when they may need to incorp... it's usually a money issue in my opinion. Jul 10 14:49:41 Lassiter.. it's not as bad as you think! Jul 10 14:50:00 Rowdy: I sure hope yer right ;) Jul 10 14:50:00 having your accountant do things has saved you $1000's hey Rowdy Jul 10 14:50:22 I have a lawyer, accountant and financial advisor/investor and they all cost me very little compared to what was saved/made Jul 10 14:50:42 hear hear Jul 10 14:50:44 mulitple 1000's willy....lol Jul 10 14:50:54 I am lucky there I just. Have some accounting education as well as tax education. So I pretty much do everything myself at the moment there. Jul 10 14:50:59 The incorporation thing just has me nervous in general...like I'm just asking the IRS to pay close attention to me where I've never had to worry about things like that before Jul 10 14:51:04 you're probably their most interesting business too rowdy Jul 10 14:51:30 anyone here using off shore banking? Jul 10 14:51:39 according to my accountant, lassiter - one red flag is writeoffs for sole proprietors Jul 10 14:51:50 I've done websites for my lawyer.... consulted on a networking system for my accountant and so on.... my business is very diversified :) Jul 10 14:51:57 higher percentage of writeoffs will draw scrutiny, or so i've been told Jul 10 14:52:00 Lassiter, if you have been filling taxes with your home self employment income. You won'y be watched any more.LOL They watch things like that too. Jul 10 14:52:02 Im told they like to do audits of small start-up mom& pop businesses Jul 10 14:52:08 this is so true TDavid Jul 10 14:52:28 Frank: Yes, I guess thatas a good point Jul 10 14:52:40 Lassiter.. that's why you h ave a good accountant.. to deal with any issues of that nature :) Jul 10 14:52:50 also money that isn't reported that should be. Just because you make less than $600 doesn't mean you don't have to report that money ... i think that that is a common misconception. Income is income Jul 10 14:53:07 TDavid: Yeah, I've been told corporation status is safer than sole proprietorship for just that reason..no mixing of the $$$ Jul 10 14:53:12 well, like everything if all your ducks are in a row there's never anything to worry about. It's those that intensionally try to cross the line that usually get hit. Jul 10 14:53:39 Right TDavid.. everything in and out is accountanted for and documneted Jul 10 14:54:10 that's true TDavid, that just means that whomever doesn't have to send you a 1099, lol Jul 10 14:54:36 I'm sure you keep great records TDavid .... you're in the business of good records :) Jul 10 14:55:07 I have to take off... someone is at the door Jul 10 14:55:28 Thanks for coming out all and see you at the party tomorrow as well as on the boards :) Hope to hear a few of you as well :) Jul 10 14:55:31 later Rowdy Jul 10 14:55:36 later all! :) Jul 10 14:55:38 <--Rowdy has quit (QUIT: User exited) Jul 10 14:55:40 bye Rowdy Jul 10 14:55:41 I loved Raven's setup...she has a tax advisor she sends all the receipts to, from net commerce to grocery expenses, and lets the tax person sort everything out where it belongs ;) Jul 10 14:55:49 hehe, I could have done some real creative things and broke even. But that would have thrown up a flag I beleve. Seems that as long as I owe money and send it to them I'm good to go LOL Jul 10 14:56:01 Come check out the All New TGP/TGP2 board! Now we have the best of both worlds on One Board! www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/tgp/ Jul 10 14:56:38 c ya Rowdy! Jul 10 14:56:51 Frank: Yep...I *want* to pay my taxes!I just don't want IRS snooping around making me prove every dollar in an audit situation Jul 10 14:56:53 Cya Rowdy Jul 10 14:57:04 damn, I didn't realize it was already the end of the chat. damn how time flies Jul 10 14:57:18 -->MIChas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:57:20 I missed him by a long shot :/ Jul 10 14:57:25 MIC Midnight Jul 10 14:57:29 cya all next time...bye Jul 10 14:57:30 hiya MIC Jul 10 14:57:32 hiya MIC Jul 10 14:57:42 cya plc Jul 10 14:57:47 hi all, just got the email about the audio board, cool Jul 10 14:08:57 Hiya Snikks Jul 10 14:08:59 -->Frankhas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:09:00 I've got a short in my cheapo computer mic :wb Frank Jul 10 14:09:06 Hi Rowdy! Jul 10 14:09:09 ---WillyB gives channel operator status to Frank Jul 10 14:09:17 Hi Frank Jul 10 14:09:17 TDavid kicked some serious ass with this program :) Jul 10 14:09:30 yeah he did Jul 10 14:09:34 i've found that those directional microphones for voice that cost like $5-10 can work pretty good Jul 10 14:09:45 the one that comes with soundblaster live ($99) is especially good Jul 10 14:09:49 I guess I'll still have to do some tinkering with the controller. I'm sure alot of it has to do with my system. But nothing I can do about that now. I still get alot of the run time 13 error and such Jul 10 14:09:57 cutting edge tech is the way to go! Jul 10 14:09:58 I have an $8.79 model TD! Jul 10 14:10:00 LOL Jul 10 14:10:00 so don't let anyone sell you that you need a really expensive microphone Jul 10 14:10:06 -->tyler1has joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:10:13 WillyB - that's what I'm looking for LOL Jul 10 14:10:14 hi tyler1 Jul 10 14:10:19 Hiya tyler1 Jul 10 14:10:29 Lassiter: got this one at walmart ;) Jul 10 14:10:30 Hiya tyler1 Jul 10 14:10:36 one day all puters will be voice operated Jul 10 14:10:37 hi everyone Jul 10 14:10:50 I suppose I could rig the camcorder mic to work since it's already connected to the 'puter Jul 10 14:10:52 I just need to do some adjusting to get it to record louder Jul 10 14:10:56 WillyB, I posted back to you on the audio board. I couldn't hear you last post :( Jul 10 14:11:03 willy i think i heard you, but it was really soft ;) Jul 10 14:11:06 *Rowdy thinsk Snikks should post a hello message :) Jul 10 14:11:12 thinks even ...lol Jul 10 14:11:13 LOL Jul 10 14:11:17 I agree Rowdy :) Jul 10 14:11:18 we;ll see Jul 10 14:11:19 I know Frank.. I had to turn it way up too.. Jul 10 14:11:32 thank you snikks and rowdy, i appreciate the kind words, it was a team project though, i don't deserve all credit, lots of people have helped test Jul 10 14:11:44 I'll test it and I will be heard next post! hehehehehe Jul 10 14:11:48 and now webmasters will help test to make better hopefully so it can become great tool for everybody Jul 10 14:11:58 and save time so we can make more $$$ Jul 10 14:12:02 Cool Deal Jul 10 14:12:08 testing and creating are a bit different though :) Jul 10 14:12:29 it's a great tool for sure. I love it. Know if I could just get my weird system to work right lol Jul 10 14:12:35 It's easier to explain things and help.. etc. when you can hear the voice of the person explaining something IMO Jul 10 14:12:38 well, you get 100 programmers in a room you might not get anything done. You get 100 testers in a room with 1 programmer and you can get a lot done Jul 10 14:12:42 I'm a little lost here...is there something new I missed? Jul 10 14:12:53 the audio zone plc Jul 10 14:13:05 you gotta stay informed plc Jul 10 14:13:05 words of wisdome TD :) Jul 10 14:13:05 still lost but staying cool Rowdy..:) Jul 10 14:13:07 Frank: Ya gotta get upgraded from Windows 3.1 LOL Jul 10 14:13:18 hehe lassiter Jul 10 14:13:19 http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/audioboard/index.phtml Jul 10 14:13:25 http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/audioboard/index.phtml Jul 10 14:13:29 frank you might try defrag on your drive when you get some time Jul 10 14:13:29 woops Jul 10 14:13:35 Thanks I'll go look.;) Jul 10 14:13:42 I dunno, I did a full format just a few days ago and still have weird problems :( Jul 10 14:13:43 you can hear us plc :) Jul 10 14:13:51 hey now 3.1 rokks!! Jul 10 14:14:02 I did that this morning TDavid, still no help :( Jul 10 14:14:05 last "stable" thing bill put out Jul 10 14:14:18 lol K Jul 10 14:14:30 LOL Jul 10 14:14:39 Kre8t0r: My first Wintel box was 3.1...it was so freakin' cool at the time LOL Jul 10 14:14:41 I think I have a bug in my Windows version :( Jul 10 14:15:02 Frank... that bug is called microsoft :) Jul 10 14:15:02 hmm, well when we both get some time, perhaps I can call you and we can try to troubleshoot your machine Jul 10 14:15:21 <---started with an Atari 400 with a whopping 24KB of RAM Jul 10 14:15:38 I love xp pro.. but still different systems with all identical inner workings and OS's can operate a bit differently Jul 10 14:15:57 possibly, what I may do later is uninstall everything again (speaking of the controller) and do another full reinstall as I did before and see what happens. Jul 10 14:16:08 I kinda figure it like women... don't try to make sense out of it and you'll be fine :) Jul 10 14:16:16 I don't see the attraction to XP. dunno just me I guess Jul 10 14:16:17 LOL Jul 10 14:16:27 i still haven't installed the xp pro we got with that deal that dokk posted about Jul 10 14:16:35 Snikks.. my xp pro systems do great for the most part Jul 10 14:16:37 kit installed hers and said she loves it Jul 10 14:16:47 cool Jul 10 14:17:04 my laptop has xp home and its not bad either Jul 10 14:17:04 three weeks without a reboot on windows...lol... that's about as impressive as you'll probably ever get from microsoft :) Jul 10 14:17:05 *TDavid realizes he hasn't opened the big league chew either Jul 10 14:17:11 Im using XP Pro here at work and it's pretty darn perfect...I understand that upgrading to it causes a lot of problems for folks though...best to just wait & get a new system with XP originally on it, I think. Jul 10 14:17:19 I've seen Rowdys xp pro .. I know it's a lot better than xp home edition Jul 10 14:17:35 hmmm Jul 10 14:17:35 LOL, hell I can count how many times I have to reboot "everyday" Rowdy :( Jul 10 14:17:45 can't count that is :( Jul 10 14:17:46 *Kre8t0r kicks his lappy Jul 10 14:18:02 lol Frank.. even my mwindows 98 usually goes a few days without a reboot Jul 10 14:18:07 We have only XP maybe thats why Jul 10 14:18:08 Frank on my 98 I have to reboot several times a day also.. always have had to Jul 10 14:18:09 LOL Jul 10 14:18:19 don't have the pro version Jul 10 14:18:19 Same here Frank...home machine is Win 98.But the XP PRo work machine has never needed a reboot as far as I can remember.Maybe once. Jul 10 14:18:28 heard a lot of trouble from xp home... but pro has been good Jul 10 14:18:29 i get a week average with 98 and 2k pro Jul 10 14:18:32 me to WillyB, even get alot of IE errors now too :( Jul 10 14:18:40 hmmm Jul 10 14:18:50 how much memory frank? Jul 10 14:19:20 I try to keep only windows on C drive and all my data on D drive .. and then reformat and reinstall C drive every 6 months or so Jul 10 14:19:46 dont say the "f" word :p Jul 10 14:19:47 just 256 cause it's a 2 year old system :( still just running a 450MHZ processor LOL Jul 10 14:19:53 rofl Kre8t0r Jul 10 14:20:19 hmm thats enough tho Jul 10 14:20:21 phruck Jul 10 14:20:29 i only have 256 atm on a 1.2 Jul 10 14:20:49 Since my DSL provider changed stuff around, I notice I get hard lockups several times a day suddenly. Jul 10 14:21:10 I suspect something in the DSL connection is fraking out the system Jul 10 14:21:10 that sux Lassiter Jul 10 14:21:12 must be the drivers Lassiter Jul 10 14:21:18 call tech and freak Jul 10 14:21:19 willy you get the award for the first mime post ... it is silence personified ;) Jul 10 14:21:31 Lassiter... have you checked out dslreports.com I think it is? Jul 10 14:21:32 rofl!! Jul 10 14:21:40 shoot the mime!!!! Jul 10 14:21:41 I'm sure it's some weird bug in my Windows version. Just waiting to get another system and have this for my backup :) Jul 10 14:21:42 it's the protocol Lassietr, needs setting for your own machine, they do a generic, never satisfactory Jul 10 14:21:45 lol TDavid Jul 10 14:21:58 Kre8t0r: U dont even wanna know ;)My DSL provider has no actual tech support..just some kids in a call center with troubleshooting books. Jul 10 14:22:03 roflmao TD! Jul 10 14:22:08 im listening and turning up the volume to like max and then i got blown away by the voice synthesizer lol Jul 10 14:22:13 <--Druid has quit (Connection reset by peer) Jul 10 14:22:17 They used to be a great local co. but got bought out and absorbed Jul 10 14:22:19 hahahahhaha Jul 10 14:22:20 -->nananancyhas joined #netsurprise Jul 10 14:22:21 ouch Lassiter Jul 10 14:22:22 http://www.dslreports.com/tools that one is more direct Lassiter Jul 10 14:22:32 hi nananancy Jul 10 14:22:37 hi there Jul 10 14:22:40 hello nananancy Jul 10 14:22:44 Thanks Rowdy Jul 10 14:22:57 so has everyone got a good business plan developed? well diversified? etc... Jul 10 14:23:03 some cool tweaks and so forth as well as tests Jul 10 14:23:04 no Jul 10 14:23:10 :p Jul 10 14:23:12 hita nananancy! Jul 10 14:23:20 I do, I work, I make money, if I don't work, I don't make money Jul 10 14:23:26 thats my plan Frank Jul 10 14:23:28 good plan!! Jul 10 14:23:30 hehehe Jul 10 14:23:35 not very diversivied Jul 10 14:23:36 *Midnight smiles Jul 10 14:23:38 hello nananancy (boy, a toughie to type) ;) Jul 10 14:23:38 think i'll adopt it Jul 10 14:23:39 that works Midnight, hehe Jul 10 14:23:57 ok, if hexa works, he takes pity on me and gives me money, hows that for diversification? Jul 10 14:24:02 Can't say I have anything resembling a solid plan yet, Frank Jul 10 14:24:03 lol :) Jul 10 14:24:08 thanks for all the hellos, you are a friendly bunch! Jul 10 14:24:08 n +tab TD Jul 10 14:24:33 should be you work , train a student , go in vacation make the student work ... still make money jk... :) Jul 10 14:24:34 it's nice to have alot of different things going on. use different types of sponsors and programs, not have all your eggs in one basket so to speak Jul 10 14:24:37 Right now it's "build sites, get traffic, learn to sell better." Jul 10 14:24:41 Having a plan is a big part of the organization one needs in order to move ahead Jul 10 14:24:54 i know that using my palm has really helped me out with organization over the last year or two Jul 10 14:25:09 is this a ad? Jul 10 14:25:11 jk Jul 10 14:25:17 kool Jul 10 14:25:19 are all of you working this biz full time now? Jul 10 14:25:19 I.m in seized mode right now..my brain cell foze..:( Jul 10 14:25:29 anyone that has been around for awhile knows how there are good periods as well as very slow periods and such Jul 10 14:25:29 *Kre8t0r takes palm donations :p Jul 10 14:25:36 nananancy: me part time till the end of the month Jul 10 14:25:39 (which would mean you have successful biz plans) Jul 10 14:25:44 contact info (email, phone numbers, addy), passwords to sites (encrypted of course) Jul 10 14:25:50 hiya Midnight ... wb hexa :) Jul 10 14:25:56 http://adultplaces.com/records.html is an example of a tracking sheet example (simplified version) Jul 10 14:25:58 nananancy: Not even close to full-time yet Jul 10 14:26:08 It's time to build for the fall! Get content for your feeders at Summertime discounts at http://www.midnightdigital.com/ Jul 10 14:26:26 Been full time for awhile now :) Jul 10 14:26:26 jeezI didn't catch up with summer building yet! Jul 10 14:26:26 has been full time for 4 yr/s Jul 10 14:26:45 is summer the worst season for us? Jul 10 14:26:54 <<< been in the biz 3 years, full-time 2 years Jul 10 14:26:57 this is interesting: The latest version of Windows Update is only available on computers that are running Microsoft Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Jul 10 14:27:00 Usually on average hexa Jul 10 14:27:09 Rowdy: k :( Jul 10 14:27:13 How long did it take people to go from making their first page to going full-time? Jul 10 14:27:14 it gets better the longer you're in the biz Jul 10 14:27:21 *TDavid hears willyB! Jul 10 14:27:32 but newbies do suffer the summer months Jul 10 14:27:43 lol TDavid Jul 10 14:27:43 Lassiter: for my 5 months :) Jul 10 14:27:46 er..me Jul 10 14:27:52 a few months here Lassiter... if you don't count my first mainstream site that made $0.00 ;-) Jul 10 14:27:56 Lassiter.... I went from part time to full time within a year probably... but that's been over 5 years ago as well :) Jul 10 14:27:59 they sure do Snikks, many give it up before they even get a chance to see the good times... Jul 10 14:28:01 cool TD! Jul 10 14:28:07 i jumped in feet first Jul 10 14:28:14 that's another part to having a good business plan... Jul 10 14:28:24 quit job worked in my boxers Jul 10 14:28:27 lol Jul 10 14:28:30 what's your plan Frank? Jul 10 14:28:31 *Lassiter is rather envious Jul 10 14:28:36 same here Kre8t0r Jul 10 14:28:39 hahah Jul 10 14:28:40 hehe Jul 10 14:28:59 though I will be the first to say that overall I loose money doing recurring programs. Recurring income is essential to help stabalize your monthly income. Jul 10 14:29:00 ---nananancy is now known as nancyporn Jul 10 14:29:14 maybe this is easier to type, plus its the nick i'll be using on the board Jul 10 14:29:28 I'm hoping to make the full-time leap in perhaps 2 years.Too many real-world $$$ obligations to give up my steady job until I figureout how to really get the web stuff kicking a bit. Jul 10 14:29:30 hello nancyporn :) Jul 10 14:29:45 *nancyporn thinks the family might not be happy about me working in just boxers! Jul 10 14:29:50 I just type nanc and hit TAB and it completes your nick ;) Jul 10 14:29:52 Game plan... my "ideal" game plan is continued diversification into new areas as well as fine tuning my present ventures for a more profitable year coming :) Jul 10 14:30:06 you can do that as a shortcut Jul 10 14:30:09 cool nancyporn, come say HI on the Newbie Board. We'd love to have ya http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/newbieboard/ Jul 10 14:30:36 thanks frank, i will....plus i have a couple questions to post over there, have been lurking and its a great board Jul 10 14:30:56 WillyB: That's as valuable a tip as any I've gotten today! Thnaks ;) Jul 10 14:31:12 thanks nancyporn, I think it is to, we are there to help :) it's a good resource if you use it :) Jul 10 14:31:50 hi everyone! Jul 10 14:31:53 Agrees with Frank Jul 10 14:31:55 hiya tia! Jul 10 14:31:57 hi tia Jul 10 14:31:58 hi tia Jul 10 14:32:05 hiya tia Jul 10 14:32:07