Jun 19 14:02:49 ---HippyDude has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Wednesday Newbie Chat Hour ~ Todays TOPIC: * Constructing Websites Efficiently *~*\!/*~Today is Wednesday, June 19th, 2002 ~*\!/*~ Welcome to Adult NetSurprise Chat - Adult Webmasters Only!!!!
Jun 19 14:02:59 <Frank>Hiya Lassiter. Good to see ya.
Jun 19 14:02:59 <Hentaibee>lol
Jun 19 14:03:05 <Hentaibee>too funny.
Jun 19 14:03:26 ---Playful-smokin is now known as Playful
Jun 19 14:03:27 <Rowdy>Recovering from a massive headache here..... Popped myself in the eye with a bungie cord yesterday like an ignorant shit...lol
Jun 19 14:03:29 <Frank>well, hope a few more filter in. I'd like to get this going when possible.
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Jun 19 14:03:38 <Kre8t0r>Crawdad!!
Jun 19 14:03:46 <Frank>Damn Rowdy. Hope you'll be OK.
Jun 19 14:03:48 *Hentaibee pulls his pencil from behind his ear and starts doodling anime content.
Jun 19 14:03:50 <Frank>Hi Crawdad
Jun 19 14:03:53 <Rowdy>Hi playful and Crawdad
Jun 19 14:03:53 <ReverendSassy>this should be an interesting/helpful chat 2day Frank :-)
Jun 19 14:03:57 <Crawdad>hi everybody
Jun 19 14:03:57 <Lassiter>Ow, Rowdy...be careful! That's gotta hurt!
Jun 19 14:03:58 <ReverendSassy>esp 4 me
Jun 19 14:03:58 <Playful>hi Rowdy
Jun 19 14:04:03 <Hentaibee>hi crawdad
Jun 19 14:04:05 <plc>steak is good they say Rowdy..:)
Jun 19 14:04:08 <Playful>hi Crawdad
Jun 19 14:04:10 <Playful>hi ya Frank
Jun 19 14:04:12 <Frank>hope so Sassy *smile*
Jun 19 14:04:22 <Rowdy>I'm fine Frank.. a bit of a lump and cut above the eye but no permanent damage :)
Jun 19 14:04:27 <Frank>Hi Playful, hope all is going well.
Jun 19 14:04:29 *ReverendSassy has been tryin to make it to more chats hehe
Jun 19 14:04:35 <Frank>LOL
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Jun 19 14:04:41 <Playful>all is going great Frank :)
Jun 19 14:04:43 <Playful>hey Ladyj
Jun 19 14:04:45 <Frank>Damn those bungie cords,lol
Jun 19 14:04:49 <Ladyj>Hi Sis
Jun 19 14:04:54 <Rowdy>Been a few years since I took a smack like that... them hooked ends those things have carry a pretty good whallop...lol
Jun 19 14:05:01 <Playful>Sis, have something for you in a little bit when i get back from town, so watch your email
Jun 19 14:05:05 <Frank>lol
Jun 19 14:05:06 <Rowdy>Hi Ladyj
Jun 19 14:05:08 <Ladyj>ok thx :)
Jun 19 14:05:08 <HippyDude> Get the Buzz about the Bizz at http://www.adultbuzz.com/ - The Adult Buzz!
Jun 19 14:05:12 <Frank>Hi Ladyj
Jun 19 14:05:21 <Ladyj>Hi ROwdy and FRank
Jun 19 14:05:28 <Lassiter>We need to register and licesne all bungee cords ;)
Jun 19 14:05:44 <Frank>ok ok, heck looks like there's enough here to start this. Any objections? LOL
Jun 19 14:05:53 <Rowdy>lol
Jun 19 14:05:55 <ReverendSassy>nope LOL
Jun 19 14:05:58 <spookyx>woohoo
Jun 19 14:06:05 <plc>drive on Frank..:)
Jun 19 14:06:05 <Rowdy>Go for it Frank
Jun 19 14:06:09 <Hentaibee>sure.
Jun 19 14:06:15 <Hentaibee>go for the full monty...hehehe
Jun 19 14:06:21 <Playful>lol
Jun 19 14:06:46 <Frank>Great, mainly what I want this to be about is building sites quicker and more effective so we have time to build more sites. etc...
Jun 19 14:07:01 <Ladyj>that is greatI need that!!!
Jun 19 14:07:14 <buran>mmm too many channels
Jun 19 14:07:16 <buran>latah pps
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Jun 19 14:07:19 <Frank>there's many time saving techniques that can be used to make your life easier
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Jun 19 14:07:49 <Hentaibee>yeah. save m\some of those often used link tables and stuff into an editor that allows'html snippets'
Jun 19 14:07:58 <Frank>sometimes it may take just a bit of time to first set things up. Yet, the time that is saved in the long run will be worth it.
Jun 19 14:08:03 <venturi>Afternoon Folks!
Jun 19 14:08:09 <Hentaibee>howdy venturi
Jun 19 14:08:13 <Frank>hiya venturi
Jun 19 14:08:16 <WillyB>hello vventuri
Jun 19 14:08:20 <Ladyj>hi venturi
Jun 19 14:08:24 <Playful>hi venturi
Jun 19 14:08:26 <WillyB>hi LadyJ
Jun 19 14:08:30 <ReverendSassy>heyas venturi :-)
Jun 19 14:08:34 <Ladyj>hey WIlly :)
Jun 19 14:08:35 <Frank>good point Hentaibee, that is one of many small things I was going to point out
Jun 19 14:08:35 <Lassiter>Hi venturi
Jun 19 14:08:42 <venturi>great topic! :-) I'm a reusable code whore! LOL
Jun 19 14:08:49 <Hentaibee>hehehe
Jun 19 14:09:01 <Frank>me too venturi
Jun 19 14:09:04 <JavaMon>hello venturi
Jun 19 14:09:08 <Ladyj>should we have pen and paper?
Jun 19 14:09:22 <Hentaibee>gates' friggin' notepad will do
Jun 19 14:09:26 <Hentaibee>lol
Jun 19 14:09:26 <ReverendSassy>no just use notepad Ladyj LOL ;-P
Jun 19 14:09:30 <Frank>starting from the site building itself it always nice to get into some kind of routine
Jun 19 14:09:30 <Rowdy>hi venturi
Jun 19 14:09:31 <plc>I will be when we've picked Frank's brains...heheh
Jun 19 14:09:33 <venturi>I store everything from HTML headers, footers, ad templates, etc. into UltraEdit so it's merely a mouse click away. :)
Jun 19 14:09:41 <Ladyj>see another easy way to do things:)
Jun 19 14:09:51 <Frank>each of use may have our own techniques...
Jun 19 14:09:52 <Playful>LadyJ, i'm logging this, i'll send you the log later hon
Jun 19 14:10:07 <Frank>some may build front to back some back to front...
Jun 19 14:10:13 <Ladyj>cool sis:)
Jun 19 14:10:15 <Hentaibee>and some start in the middle
Jun 19 14:10:26 <Hentaibee>really.
Jun 19 14:10:34 <Frank>the point is to find what works for you best and get into the routine of doing it that way...
Jun 19 14:10:45 <Frank>true Hentaibee, lol
Jun 19 14:10:53 <Hentaibee>yes. routine IS important above all
Jun 19 14:10:57 <Ladyj>hell Frank I have yet to find the first way to make it easy ! :(
Jun 19 14:11:09 <Rowdy>Agreeed... organization makes for a much more productful day/week
Jun 19 14:11:29 <Kre8t0r>hmmmm
Jun 19 14:11:30 <Ladyj>so what does one do if they are not an organized person ?
Jun 19 14:11:37 <Kre8t0r>ty Ladyj
Jun 19 14:11:38 <Kre8t0r>:p
Jun 19 14:11:41 <Ladyj>Kre8tor :)
Jun 19 14:11:41 <plc>hire one who is..;)
Jun 19 14:11:43 <Hentaibee>hm.........get grumpy and organize your life
Jun 19 14:11:48 <Frank>Ladyj, start with what is quickest for you and work from there. Whatever pages and such
Jun 19 14:11:50 <Hentaibee>cheaper than hiring
Jun 19 14:11:50 <Kre8t0r>good plan plc
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Jun 19 14:12:11 <Rowdy>Hi Security_man
Jun 19 14:12:12 <Frank>hi security_man
Jun 19 14:12:18 <Lassiter>lol plc
Jun 19 14:12:20 <Hentaibee>hey there Security_man
Jun 19 14:12:25 <Lassiter>Hi security_man
Jun 19 14:12:26 <plc>I did it the cheaper way..I got a wife..LOL:)
Jun 19 14:12:29 <ReverendSassy>heyas Security_man :-)
Jun 19 14:12:34 <Playful>lol plc
Jun 19 14:12:36 <ReverendSassy>lol plc
Jun 19 14:12:37 <Frank>now, as has been discussed before as you build sites you then start to accumulate "templates"
Jun 19 14:12:49 <Frank>does anyone NOT understand templates?
Jun 19 14:12:55 <Security_man>hey rowdy, frank, hentaibee, lassiter, rev sass :)
Jun 19 14:13:03 <Ladyj>I tried using dw to make templates,,never could make it work
Jun 19 14:13:04 <Rowdy>Ladyj.. what is organization for one person is a true clusterfuck for another.... Everyone will to some degree have thier own system and so forth that they have developed over time
Jun 19 14:13:25 <Ladyj>you are right Rowdy :)
Jun 19 14:13:29 <Frank>true Rowdy, actually I build gallerys first myself
Jun 19 14:13:30 <Playful>sis, you will have templates after tonight lol
Jun 19 14:13:39 <Lassiter>plc: My wife helps a bit with my sites too, mostly handling link list recips
Jun 19 14:13:42 <plc>if you do the same things over and over, that's routine, whether you start back front or sideways
Jun 19 14:13:47 <Ladyj>thxsis :)
Jun 19 14:13:47 <ReverendSassy>that is sooo true Rowdy... Chazz dont understand me and i dont understand him yet we get the work done LOL
Jun 19 14:14:00 <Hentaibee>the damn thing is, tht drwamweaver only wants to save templates for each single project, and not as general all round templates
Jun 19 14:14:07 <plc>you got a trained one too Lassiter...heheh
Jun 19 14:14:13 <Rowdy>:)
Jun 19 14:14:13 <Frank>since we have limited time I'm going to try to throw as much out as I can,LOL
Jun 19 14:14:16 <ReverendSassy>i need to start makin templates and shit LOL
Jun 19 14:14:32 <plc>sorry Frank....shoot
Jun 19 14:14:36 <ReverendSassy>ya thats whats fucked Hentaibee
Jun 19 14:14:40 <Ladyj>Frank we really are listening :)
Jun 19 14:14:47 <plc>yep we are
Jun 19 14:14:49 <ReverendSassy>but i still luv DW altho i use homesite too :-)
Jun 19 14:14:58 <Hentaibee>yeah DW is sooo smooth
Jun 19 14:14:59 <ReverendSassy>sorry Frank
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Jun 19 14:15:05 <Frank>so, so far, we have developed whatever site building technique works for us best, (what to build first_
Jun 19 14:15:08 <ReverendSassy>combo of both LOL
Jun 19 14:15:12 <Rowdy>I prefer something like text pad for your templates... that way, no matter what happens with certain programs over time, those will always be accessible as well as modifyable
Jun 19 14:15:36 <Frank>and, as we build we develope templates
Jun 19 14:15:49 <Frank>I use notepad for everything, lol
Jun 19 14:15:51 <ReverendSassy>good pt Rowdy :-)
Jun 19 14:16:01 <ReverendSassy>notetab is cool too :-)
Jun 19 14:16:21 <Hentaibee>lemme see...there was another cool software.......
Jun 19 14:16:26 <Rowdy>yep .. anything like that works well
Jun 19 14:16:35 <Frank>now... to fill in sites what do we need? Text, metas, sometimes java, etc...
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Jun 19 14:16:46 <Frank>hi invisible
Jun 19 14:17:00 <WillyB>hello invisible .. didn't see ya there
Jun 19 14:17:00 <invisible>Hi Frank
Jun 19 14:17:00 <Rowdy>Point is, knowing basic html makes one less dependant on software to do things.....
Jun 19 14:17:06 <ReverendSassy>lol WillyB
Jun 19 14:17:09 <Frank>this is where slowly accumulating things and saving them in a editor comes into play
Jun 19 14:17:15 <invisible>Lol
Jun 19 14:17:29 <ReverendSassy>yup sooo true Rowdy :-)
Jun 19 14:17:36 <ReverendSassy>takes time but its time well spent
Jun 19 14:17:50 <Frank>yup, cute and paste sure saves time
Jun 19 14:17:59 <ReverendSassy>yup yup :-)
Jun 19 14:18:07 <Rowdy>Hiya Willy :)
Jun 19 14:18:08 <Frank>let's take meta tags for instance...
Jun 19 14:18:22 <Hentaibee>I remember NotesPad
Jun 19 14:18:23 <Lassiter>TextPad is great too...will handle multiple documents, and it color codes HTML tages so you can see what yer doing real easy.http://www.textpad.com/
Jun 19 14:18:25 <Hentaibee>that's the name
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Jun 19 14:18:32 <Security_man>frank you have been writing too many teen text links when cut becomes cute LOL
Jun 19 14:18:40 <plc>I have mine in a |Meta.txt file and swipe and copy it
Jun 19 14:19:04 <Frank>one can "premake" metas for individual niches etc... we all know what the common stuff is (naked, nude, pics, etc...) ...
Jun 19 14:19:26 <Rowdy>hi kicks
Jun 19 14:19:34 <kicks>hi Rowdy :)
Jun 19 14:19:37 <Hentaibee>howdy kicks
Jun 19 14:19:39 <Security_man>is focusing on one and only one keyword per page better or is putting the common stuff in it every time important?
Jun 19 14:19:46 <Ladyj>what and reuse the same metas over and over again?
Jun 19 14:19:51 <venturi>Kicks! :)
Jun 19 14:19:56 <kicks>hi all :)
Jun 19 14:20:07 <plc>have the basic few and add to them as needed
Jun 19 14:20:10 <Frank>make up premade generic metas for various niches and save them to cut and paste. Then it just a matter of putting in a few more "specific" things pertaining to the site and what you want to focus on. Just a few seconds to do.
Jun 19 14:20:17 <Hentaibee>important is that the common stuff is relevant to the page and it's links, and that you don't stuff the words too much
Jun 19 14:20:53 <Hentaibee>e.g if it's a story site, you don't wanna focus on 'free sex pics' lol
Jun 19 14:21:07 <ReverendSassy>lol Hentaibee
Jun 19 14:21:10 <Frank>text links can bedone the same way. start saving various text links so you don't always have to set and rethink some.
Jun 19 14:21:16 <Security_man>should you put the specific terms first or at the end of the generic terms?
Jun 19 14:21:23 <Security_man>or does it matter?
Jun 19 14:21:32 <venturi>First, IMHO
Jun 19 14:21:34 <Frank>depends on the SE security_man
Jun 19 14:21:40 <Hentaibee>I think some SEs don't care, put put thme first just in case...
Jun 19 14:21:42 <plc>depends on your title and description Security-man
Jun 19 14:21:49 <Rowdy>I agree again Frank... even more important is to save the ones that are getting the clicks for ya! :)
Jun 19 14:21:54 <Security_man>ah - gotcha
Jun 19 14:21:56 <Hentaibee>Yeah.
Jun 19 14:22:02 <Frank>actually, I have gotten better AltaVista listing with NONE of what I am shooting for in the meta
Jun 19 14:22:09 <Hentaibee>duplicating anything that generates traffic is a must
Jun 19 14:22:31 <Frank>As AltaVista say's. Metas are a bandage. If the site IS done properly you don't need metas
Jun 19 14:22:33 <Hentaibee>yeah. AltaVista seems to focus on d url pathing and titles lately
Jun 19 14:22:38 <venturi>I don't even put 'generic' terms in my keywords & descriptions anymore. Only targetted, relevant terms. That way I lessen the likelihood of burning BW on surfers looking for what I ain't got. :)
Jun 19 14:22:56 <Frank>that is a point venturi
Jun 19 14:22:58 <plc>that's a point venturi
Jun 19 14:23:03 <plc>heheh
Jun 19 14:23:08 <Frank>everyone needs to do there metas to work for them..
Jun 19 14:23:32 <Frank>just as long as they make it easier, so to do copy-paste and such
Jun 19 14:23:32 <Hentaibee>well. with some smart scripting, you could take those sufrers to one page link HUB and offer the what they like
Jun 19 14:23:33 <kicks>this might sound a little obvious, but if you are saving like text links to copy and paste them later, be sure you delete the ones that are not productive for you
Jun 19 14:23:38 <Security_man>so venturi are you only doing one keword per page or are you jsut doing them all from scratch?
Jun 19 14:23:40 <venturi>I also try to repeat those terms in my text, whether its ad text or just body filler.
Jun 19 14:24:23 <venturi>Security_man: I usually go to the overture search term db and search for big hitters for the niche I'm building. Then I incorporate 3 or 4 of those into my keywords & text.
Jun 19 14:24:37 <Frank>now... if you come across java scripts and such that you use, you do the same with them too. Personally I have specific files for everything. Java, metas, opportunities, resources, etc, etc...
Jun 19 14:24:37 <Security_man>okie dokie :)
Jun 19 14:24:55 <venturi>It seems to be working, as my rankings on google & yahoo are steadily climbing
Jun 19 14:25:01 <Hentaibee>yeah.
Jun 19 14:25:38 <Hentaibee>but you have to use grammatically realistic phrasing if you don't wanna be laughed at by the dmoz editors.
Jun 19 14:25:43 <Hentaibee>that's a point, it guess
Jun 19 14:25:44 <Frank>as was mentioned earlier to, we can do the same copy - paste techniques with link tables.
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Jun 19 14:25:53 <Hentaibee>hi tia
Jun 19 14:25:53 <Frank>Hiya tia
Jun 19 14:25:56 <venturi>you got that right Hentaibee
Jun 19 14:25:57 <Ladyj>hi tia
Jun 19 14:25:57 <plc>Hi tia
Jun 19 14:25:58 <tia>hi guys!
Jun 19 14:25:59 <venturi>hiya tia
Jun 19 14:26:02 <WillyB>hello tia :)
Jun 19 14:26:24 <tia>I can't believe I made a chat.. well halfway made it anyway.. lol
Jun 19 14:26:27 <kicks>hi tia
Jun 19 14:26:30 <Lassiter>Hi tia!
Jun 19 14:26:32 <venturi>lol tia
Jun 19 14:26:34 <Security_man>is dmoz even relavant anymore?
Jun 19 14:26:34 <Rowdy>hi tia
Jun 19 14:26:36 <Frank>as you go about building and submitting you'll find what your favorite links are and such. Who wants what pages etc...
Jun 19 14:26:39 <invisible>hi Tia
Jun 19 14:26:44 <Hentaibee>and not the spidercandy crap like 'john showed marsh his huge boobs and put a pair of big tits into the vcr" LMAO
Jun 19 14:27:04 <Hentaibee>dmoz kicked a lot of editors.
Jun 19 14:27:09 <Frank>build premade tables with your link list in them (already linked) for quick copy and paste into your pages.
Jun 19 14:27:13 <Hentaibee>but they're still kinda relevant.
Jun 19 14:27:20 <Crawdad-phone>i gotta go all, something came up...sorry...cya'll later
Jun 19 14:27:21 <venturi>another way to save time/effort is to build SSI includes for targetted links back into your network of sites. Builds link popularity very fast.
Jun 19 14:27:33 <Frank>Have a good one CD!
Jun 19 14:27:40 <venturi>later Crawdad-phone
Jun 19 14:27:48 <Lassiter>Security_man: If ya do a google search, and hit their "directory" tab for the same keyphrases, it takes you to a DMOZ directory.So dmoz is definitely being used by folks, I'd wager.
Jun 19 14:27:48 <Hentaibee>see ya around Crawdad
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Jun 19 14:27:51 <Rowdy>have a good one Crawdad
Jun 19 14:27:53 <tia>I got a question.. all these "feeder" type free sites we make.. is it possible that se's will figure out a way to get rid of them.. there's a hell of a lot of them online right now
Jun 19 14:27:55 <Ladyj>This works the same with tgp's right?
Jun 19 14:28:09 <Hentaibee>Tia-> not really.
Jun 19 14:28:18 <tia>why do you say that Hentaibee?
Jun 19 14:28:20 <Hentaibee>Se's will in the long run go for content rich sites
Jun 19 14:28:28 <venturi>sure Ladyj
Jun 19 14:28:35 <tia>that's what I mean Hentaibee
Jun 19 14:28:36 <Ladyj>thx
Jun 19 14:28:39 <Frank>I don't see how tia myself. everything on the web is spidered and such.
Jun 19 14:28:46 <Security_man>okay this is a little off topic but does anyone know about inktomi?
Jun 19 14:28:49 <Hentaibee>so IF your feeder has some cool content for surfers to make it 'worthwile'
Jun 19 14:28:53 <Hentaibee>it's ok.
Jun 19 14:28:56 <plc>feeders are just another type of doorway tia, they lead back to the main site
Jun 19 14:28:59 <Hentaibee>At least that from my POV
Jun 19 14:28:59 <tia>but what I'm wondering is.. is it really a good investment to make them
Jun 19 14:29:05 <Frank>yea, what about it security_man
Jun 19 14:29:30 <Security_man>when you pay for the listing does the spider do just that page or everything linked to it?
Jun 19 14:29:33 <Hentaibee>I mean, you could use feeders as a direct upsell......
Jun 19 14:29:39 <tia>what I'm thinking is.. it may be a much better investment for the future to make more involved sites
Jun 19 14:29:46 <Hentaibee>yes
Jun 19 14:29:48 <Hentaibee>indeed
Jun 19 14:29:50 <Hentaibee>good point
Jun 19 14:29:58 <ReverendSassy>i think u r right tia :-)
Jun 19 14:30:03 <Hentaibee>involvement will get more important soon.
Jun 19 14:30:03 <Frank>tia, I don't think we can run our businesses wondering what the SE may do in the future. We need them now for sure
Jun 19 14:30:10 <Hentaibee>does'Theoma' ring a bell?
Jun 19 14:30:13 <ReverendSassy>i hate building minor sites tho so i may just be thinkin weird hehe
Jun 19 14:30:32 <plc>I build my feeders for a three way outlet
Jun 19 14:30:42 <venturi>1/2 my traffic to my 'main' sites comes from feeders easilly. :-)
Jun 19 14:30:52 <plc>mine too venturi
Jun 19 14:30:55 <Lassiter>What would a "more involved" site be?Spiders don't usually go behind AVS walls or membership areas, so what would a more involved free site consist of?
Jun 19 14:30:56 <Hentaibee>I build feeders straight to sponsors and with some networked feeder/doorway farms
Jun 19 14:31:07 <Rowdy>Security_man ... I would think it would spider all if done correctly
Jun 19 14:31:09 <Hentaibee>just don't overdo it with the submits
Jun 19 14:31:12 <Frank>security_man, I have been meaning to ask them that myself. My view is just the page submitted.
Jun 19 14:31:32 <ReverendSassy>what about sites w/o any content? do u think those are worthless now?
Jun 19 14:31:33 <Security_man>hmmm - any good way to find out (besides asking them?
Jun 19 14:31:41 <Hentaibee>just let a spider dive deeper and deeper...and then send em to the next domain. lol
Jun 19 14:31:44 <Frank>LOL, I guess no one is sure. I'll ask them today. I wanna know for sure too. hehe
Jun 19 14:31:48 *venturi doesn't pay inktomi for listings. They already spider my domains for free. LOL
Jun 19 14:31:57 <Security_man>kewl - thanks frank :))
Jun 19 14:32:00 <Security_man>brb
Jun 19 14:32:03 <Lassiter>Lucky venturi ;)
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Jun 19 14:32:18 <Hentaibee>I wonder whne inktomi's free submit will be reopened
Jun 19 14:32:22 <Rowdy>Sassy.. I stil have a few of those sites... results vary
Jun 19 14:32:24 <Frank>yea, actually except for the fact of getting spidered quicker. you don't have to submit. if you are linked elsewhere you'll get spidered.
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Jun 19 14:32:39 <tia>hey Boodrow!!!
Jun 19 14:32:45 <Boodrow>tia!!!
Jun 19 14:32:50 <Hentaibee>howdy boodrow
Jun 19 14:32:52 <venturi>hiya Boodrow
Jun 19 14:32:53 <ReverendSassy>Frank: what do you think of sites that dont have any content? do you think those are worthless anymore?
Jun 19 14:32:56 <Frank>Hentaibee, I doubt if it will myself, but who knows, lol
Jun 19 14:32:58 <Rowdy>it's a ghost .... Hi Boodrow
Jun 19 14:32:58 <plc>they will stop charging when people stop paying them...quickest way to bring them back online I reckon
Jun 19 14:33:02 <Frank>Hiya Boodrow
Jun 19 14:33:06 <Boodrow>BOO!
Jun 19 14:33:14 <Frank>lol
Jun 19 14:33:25 <Boodrow>Howdy everybody! What's the topic for today?
Jun 19 14:33:29 <Lassiter>plc: Im doing my part...every day I make a point of not paying 'em LOL
Jun 19 14:33:30 <Rowdy>scary .... lol
Jun 19 14:33:40 <Frank>building sites more efficiently
Jun 19 14:33:41 <venturi>lol Lassiter
Jun 19 14:33:55 <kicks>todays Topic, the return of Venturi
Jun 19 14:33:57 <Frank>there ya go lassiter, hehe
Jun 19 14:33:57 <Rowdy>Topic .. webmasters and their disapearances ....lol
Jun 19 14:33:59 <plc>the net is supposed to be free they say,so why do these people think they can charge for stuff?
Jun 19 14:34:02 <venturi>rofl kicks
Jun 19 14:34:06 <Frank>LOL Rowdy
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Jun 19 14:34:18 <Playful>LadyJ, you have mail hon :)
Jun 19 14:34:20 <Playful>Hugs JP
Jun 19 14:34:23 <venturi>wb JP
Jun 19 14:34:27 <Ladyj>ok will check :)
Jun 19 14:34:37 <Hentaibee>well, copyright hasn't been invented for nothing......so someone must pay somewhere for something copyrighted.
Jun 19 14:34:38 <Frank>plc, the NET is free. people gotta realize that these are businees of there own
Jun 19 14:34:43 <Boodrow>Heynow! I'm more or less back... gimmie a break!
Jun 19 14:34:52 <Lassiter>plc: If the net is supposed to be free, we're all outta business here.Shhhhh!;)
Jun 19 14:34:54 <Rowdy>TOPIC: * Constructing Websites Efficiently *
Jun 19 14:35:01 <tia>lol Boodrow.. no breaks for you!
Jun 19 14:35:05 <Rowdy>Boodrow.. just teasin ya bud :)
Jun 19 14:35:08 <HippyDude> Want to Party Down?!! Come to #mainstage, this server Thursday's at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific time!
Jun 19 14:35:09 <ReverendSassy>lol Lassiter
Jun 19 14:35:17 <plc>yep that's true Frank,but there are plenty of other SE's to put stuff on without being penalized for having an Adult site
Jun 19 14:35:22 <Boodrow>:) I know
Jun 19 14:35:36 <Frank>just like link list. people get pissed if they don't get link.lol These are PRIVATE companies not public. So they don't have to link anyone if they don't want to.
Jun 19 14:35:47 <plc>after all we don't ALL earn millions...some just a few bucks
Jun 19 14:36:09 <ReverendSassy>lol
Jun 19 14:36:27 <Ladyj>Sis this is GREAT!Love yafor this :)
Jun 19 14:36:30 <Hentaibee>a few hundred bucks a month is better than nothing (^_^)
Jun 19 14:36:46 <Frank>oh, I understand your point plc, what's gonna happen when all the link list go to paid submits if that ever happend?
Jun 19 14:36:48 <ReverendSassy>sure Hentaibee itll at least pay for your hobbie hehe
Jun 19 14:36:53 <Hentaibee>yup.
Jun 19 14:36:54 <Playful>you are welcome Ladyj, will have more for you later.
Jun 19 14:36:56 <Hentaibee>absolutely
Jun 19 14:36:58 <Hentaibee>hehehe
Jun 19 14:37:05 <ReverendSassy>cant beat that hehe
Jun 19 14:37:05 <plc>I'll start a free one of my own Frank..LOL:)
Jun 19 14:37:06 <Lassiter>Frank: Yer scaring me here.
Jun 19 14:37:19 <ReverendSassy>& i know a lot of ppl who started this as a hobbie ... hell i did LOL
Jun 19 14:37:36 <Frank>This biz is just like everything in the real world. What happens when a Walmart comes into town. Some small business go away, etc... Just the way it is.
Jun 19 14:37:46 <ReverendSassy>yup
Jun 19 14:37:50 <Ladyj>If one already owns a tgp site,,should they also look into making a LL?
Jun 19 14:37:56 <venturi>Frank, I think LL's going pay4Listing will be the death of them. Hell, I doubt if even 1% of the LL's & TGP's out there actually turn a profit. Most are out there to increase their own Link Pop. and drive traffic to their own network of sites.
Jun 19 14:38:00 <Playful>heck yes LadyJ
Jun 19 14:38:09 <Hentaibee>well. I'm here for some years now. and I don't plan on going away.hehehe
Jun 19 14:38:14 <Ladyj>okideas are hitting me:)
Jun 19 14:38:16 <plc>I agree there venturi
Jun 19 14:38:17 <Frank>Hey, sorry, but sometimes biz is biz. It's competition. It takes money sometimes.
Jun 19 14:38:28 <Playful>hehehe Sis, i have templates for that too. roflmao
Jun 19 14:38:50 <plc>I'm not against that...when i am making it, they are welcome to a share, until then...tuff!...hehehe
Jun 19 14:38:51 <ReverendSassy>but what u invest - if done right - will more than pay for itself
Jun 19 14:38:59 <Ladyj>you are too much!Playful,,that is my sis!!
Jun 19 14:39:06 <Frank>venturi, that's vaild, most LL's aren't ever gonna be much anyway. Yet, we need traffic
Jun 19 14:39:49 <Playful>Ladyj, you need to hit me up on icq later, need to find out what all you need and then i will send it to you.
Jun 19 14:39:52 <Lassiter>Well, many LLs already have similar setups to SEs...they don't charge for placement but U can make traffic trading deals to get better placement, etc.It's similar in a way, no?
Jun 19 14:39:53 <Frank>so, before we get into other stuff, LOL is there any question on the building sites more efficiently issue?
Jun 19 14:39:55 <venturi>yup Frank. I have a TGP, A Hybrid & Mishi is building a LL. They are there to increase our own traffic.
Jun 19 14:39:59 <Ladyj>ok I will :)
Jun 19 14:40:13 <venturi>lol, sorry. didn't mean to change the topic. *eek*
Jun 19 14:40:23 <Rowdy>Success can not be measured in dollar amounts... I know folks that make less than 10k a year and are happy as hell while others I know that make considerably more are miserable. If you are doing well wnough to please yourself and meet your requirements... you are a true success IMHO :)
Jun 19 14:40:25 <Security_man>oh yeah thats the topic LOL
Jun 19 14:40:42 <Frank>that's OK venturi, this is to help webmasters. That was a valid topic
Jun 19 14:40:52 <plc>I'll take 10k a year and whoop for joy Rowdy..:)
Jun 19 14:40:54 <ReverendSassy>that is sooo true Rowdy ...
Jun 19 14:41:05 <Frank>yup, what Rowdy said.
Jun 19 14:41:07 <venturi>Success: v. 1) The progressive realization of a worthwhile goal.
Jun 19 14:41:09 <Hentaibee>you put that well, Rowdy
Jun 19 14:41:19 <ReverendSassy>lol venturi :-)
Jun 19 14:41:21 <Boodrow>Nope, it's about millions. Enjoying your job and taking pride in your work has nothing to do with it. :)
Jun 19 14:41:28 <Security_man>you and me both plc LOL
Jun 19 14:41:34 <plc>:)
Jun 19 14:41:40 <Kre8t0r>exactly Boodrow
Jun 19 14:41:41 <Kre8t0r>:p
Jun 19 14:41:45 <Kre8t0r>hehehee
Jun 19 14:41:52 <Boodrow>lol
Jun 19 14:41:56 <Security_man>oh hiya kre - i didnt see ya inhere :))
Jun 19 14:41:58 <Lassiter>OK...how does one strike a balance between having lots of stuff pre-made, and not just turning out cookie-cutter sites?Any ideas on making design and layout more efficient?
Jun 19 14:42:13 <plc>just think for a minute...if we were all intent on making every moment pay for us...we'd miss all the fun here...LOL:)
Jun 19 14:42:21 <Frank>the fact is the web and how the biz works changes all the time. So we'll just have to roll with the punches so to speak, lol
Jun 19 14:42:36 <Hentaibee>well.......perhaps using layers...nd combining with templates...
Jun 19 14:42:47 <ReverendSassy>hell ive seen so many changes its almost scarey
Jun 19 14:42:50 <Security_man>whadya mean layers hen?
Jun 19 14:42:50 <venturi>I chop up my templates into the smallest pieces of code where they are still usable. That way plugging them in doesn't create the 'cookie cutter' look.
Jun 19 14:42:51 <Rowdy>Lassiter... just like rearanging your house... you can get drastic results in appearnace changes just by "moving" things around and changing/adding color schemes :)
Jun 19 14:43:06 <Hentaibee>well, html layers
Jun 19 14:43:16 <Hentaibee>to overlay stuff......
Jun 19 14:43:25 <Frank>lassiter, if you accumulate say 30 types of templates. You could submit 1 different type of site everyday and no one would know
Jun 19 14:43:36 <Rowdy>plc.. here is knowledge though.. and that's the basis of true money income value
Jun 19 14:43:39 <ReverendSassy>Frank: any more suggestions for the days topic? LOL
Jun 19 14:43:42 <Security_man>like what venturi was saying hen?
Jun 19 14:43:52 <plc>dead right there Rowdy
Jun 19 14:43:55 <Hentaibee>Rowdy> knowledge AND content.
Jun 19 14:44:03 <Lassiter>Rowdy: That's what I do now, and I guess it works well. ;)
Jun 19 14:44:17 <Lassiter>Frank: Good point.Only 28 to go. LOL
Jun 19 14:44:31 <plc>I have learned more here in the last few weeks than i thought possible
Jun 19 14:44:41 <Hentaibee>cool
Jun 19 14:44:49 <ReverendSassy>there is sooo much to learn in this bizz
Jun 19 14:44:51 <Frank>Sassy, basically each of us have our own ways of doing things that works for us. With that, try to take the time to to make things as simple as possible through cut and paste...
Jun 19 14:45:04 <Frank>start making various files that will assist you...
Jun 19 14:45:16 <venturi>plc: this is a knowledge wedgie! LOL
Jun 19 14:45:19 <Rowdy>actually Frank.. reverse order by alternating weeks with the thirty templates... you'd be amazed at how easy any routine stands out to a linklist owner that has been doing that job for years
Jun 19 14:45:21 <Ladyj>files or folders,Frank?
Jun 19 14:45:21 <Security_man>lol
Jun 19 14:45:22 <plc>then try finding where you put thm Frank...heheh
Jun 19 14:45:27 <Frank>then as you find new stuff to add, just open the file and add it.
Jun 19 14:46:16 <Frank>I have text files in various folders just like a file drawer
Jun 19 14:46:43 <plc>FrankI have so many text files, they spill over onto CD's..:)
Jun 19 14:46:48 <Frank>like I mentioned, I have 1 for opportunities, java, sponsors, metas, you name it, lol
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Jun 19 14:46:57 <Lassiter>plc has a point...having lots of pre-made files, templates, scripts, metas, etc won't help if you dont have a logical method of storing and retreiving them
Jun 19 14:47:05 <venturi>I"ve never had much luck with templating an entire gallery/site. Seems every time I build a new AVS site, both it and the feeders I build are different from the last one. So my templates are like tiny snippets of the end product.
Jun 19 14:47:15 <Security_man>thats the hard part for me is staying organized :(
Jun 19 14:47:43 <kicks>seeya all, time to mow the farm
Jun 19 14:47:46 <plc>maybe someone could build a rotor file for the desktop?
Jun 19 14:47:51 <Ladyj>There are a few of us like that Security_man
Jun 19 14:48:00 <Frank>lassiter, I dunno what's hard. I have it right in windows, 2 clicks I'm there. open whatever file I need and get what I need?
Jun 19 14:48:02 <venturi>lol, take care kicks
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Jun 19 14:48:05 <Playful>ah Sis, i'll get you organized lol
Jun 19 14:48:15 <Security_man>thats an idea plc maybe someone should contact rolodex LOL
Jun 19 14:48:24 *Lassiter was a totally disorganized pothead in his younger days
Jun 19 14:48:30 <plc>heheh I'm not clever enough or I'd have a go
Jun 19 14:48:34 <Ladyj>no matter what I get myself into,,you come to my aide..:) thxsis
Jun 19 14:48:37 <Lassiter>Now I'm trying to be an organized pothead LOL
Jun 19 14:48:42 <Hentaibee>hehehe
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Jun 19 14:48:45 <Playful>welcome LadyJ
Jun 19 14:48:48 <Playful>hugs Viv
Jun 19 14:48:52 <Go4LiveCash_Viv>good morning :)
Jun 19 14:48:53 <venturi>wb Viv
Jun 19 14:49:06 <Rowdy>wb Viv
Jun 19 14:49:24 <Frank>on the site issue to as Rowdy mentioned you'd be surprised how changing background colors and such can change a site. Even make small gifs to use for backgrounds and other images
Jun 19 14:49:47 <plc>also Frank a different tile is good too
Jun 19 14:49:52 <Frank>yup
Jun 19 14:50:11 <Ladyj>All the sites should have different titles,right
Jun 19 14:50:16 <Frank>once you have a template, only minor things need to be done to make it look differently all together
Jun 19 14:50:22 <Rowdy>yes
Jun 19 14:50:35 <Lassiter>I like to make quick & dirty logos for site names too...makes an otherwise cookie-cutter site look like there's more thought in it.
Jun 19 14:50:39 <Frank>it helps Ladyj so you can get a variety of search hits
Jun 19 14:50:46 <Security_man>me too lass
Jun 19 14:50:57 <plc>there are lots with plain backgrounds, but not so many with tiled background, it makes it just a bit different
Jun 19 14:51:14 <Frank>yup, whatever works and makes your life quicker and easier.
Jun 19 14:51:28 <Security_man>its kinda funny - some of our sites have the title graphic linked to a broken page - amazing how many clicks we are getting because of that LOL
Jun 19 14:51:36 <Frank>the LESS time taken n building a site the more time for other biz
Jun 19 14:51:37 <Ladyj>so we would need to find different bkgds and such as a time saver
Jun 19 14:52:06 <Rowdy>ladyj .. make them
Jun 19 14:52:13 <plc>once you have them they are there forever Ladyj
Jun 19 14:52:19 <Frank>it would help Ladyj, changing background can change the entire look of a site while keeping the smae template.
Jun 19 14:52:26 <Ladyj>I am not good at graphics,althouI own several programs :(
Jun 19 14:52:27 <venturi>exactly Frank. There is a fine line between originality & overkill when building galleries. Have to weigh the merit of the design against the time it takes you to build it. :)
Jun 19 14:52:28 <Playful>hehehe Ladyj, i have those too
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Jun 19 14:52:37 <Rowdy>they're easy and barry hilton would be glad to do a workshop to show folks how easy it is... might already be one...
Jun 19 14:52:41 <Security_man>wb rev
Jun 19 14:52:44 <Rowdy>brb
Jun 19 14:52:44 <venturi>wb Sassy
Jun 19 14:52:51 <Lassiter>Well, all the PS help here has been a real boost for me...I used to spend a couple of hours trying to make a cool looking logo/title for a site and now I can do it in 2 minutes ;)
Jun 19 14:52:52 <plc>there is one Rowdy
Jun 19 14:52:58 <ReverendSassy>sorry guys ashley tried installin aol then shut my comp off hehe
Jun 19 14:53:03 <Ladyj>I will have to look thx Rowdy :)
Jun 19 14:53:28 <Frank>truthfully when ya get int the hang of it a free site can take as little as 2 hours or so
Jun 19 14:53:31 <Rowdy>http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/graphixzone/tutorials.html
Jun 19 14:53:43 <plc>all you need is 3 pixels and you havbe a variety of backgrounds for the number of colours you have in your pallete
Jun 19 14:53:55 <Rowdy>Part 10 :: Designing a Repeating Background]- http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/learning_center/photoshop_tutorial/photoshop_week_10.html
Jun 19 14:53:55 <Lassiter>Not counting the LL submissions, Frank ;)
Jun 19 14:54:14 <Frank>if anyone is spending over 4 hours or so building a site then you need work,LOL
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Jun 19 14:54:31 <Frank>that's just the building lassiter
Jun 19 14:54:35 <Security_man>is that time including  gay man in uniform
Jun 19 14:54:35 <Security_man> muscular gay man in uniform
Jun 19 14:54:35 <Security_man> free gay man in uniform
Jun 19 14:54:35 <Security_man> gay man wearing army uniform
Jun 19 14:54:35 <Security_man> gay uniform man
Jun 19 14:54:35 <Security_man> picture of gay man in uniform
Jun 19 14:54:36 <Security_man> gay black man in uniform
Jun 19 14:54:36 <Security_man> gay man uniform
Jun 19 14:54:40 <Security_man>opps sorry
Jun 19 14:54:42 <Frank>the submits will be different for everyone
Jun 19 14:55:06 <Security_man>i am building a gay uniform site - can ya tell LOL
Jun 19 14:55:26 <Lassiter>Thats your story and you're sticking to it, Security_man? ;)
Jun 19 14:55:38 <venturi>LOLOL
Jun 19 14:55:43 <Rowdy>lol
Jun 19 14:55:45 <venturi>sure Security_man, sure....
Jun 19 14:55:49 <Frank>naturally one that may only submit to say 20 places is going to take les time than 50
Jun 19 14:55:53 <Security_man>um yeah - um thats the ticket - YEAH!
Jun 19 14:55:54 <Rowdy>closet doors being opened?
Jun 19 14:55:58 <Rowdy>hahahaha
Jun 19 14:56:13 <Frank>yup, gotta watch security_man now, lol
Jun 19 14:56:17 <Lassiter>"Gay uniform man" sounds like a superhero
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Jun 19 14:56:24 <Frank>wb plc
Jun 19 14:56:30 <Boodrow>It's Security's alterego
Jun 19 14:56:30 <Hentaibee>lol
Jun 19 14:56:31 <plc>thanks...got dumped..:)
Jun 19 14:56:32 <Rowdy>wb plc
Jun 19 14:56:34 <Hentaibee>wb plc
Jun 19 14:56:38 <plc>tx
Jun 19 14:56:38 <Rowdy>haha Lassiter
Jun 19 14:56:43 *Security_man puts the navy uniform missing its ass back in the closet
Jun 19 14:56:56 <Frank>had a YMCA flashback
Jun 19 14:57:04 <Rowdy>Boodrow.. and what title is yours then? gay uniform sidekick? hahaha..
Jun 19 14:57:10 *venturi spies Security_man singing and dancing to YMCA ...
Jun 19 14:57:12 <Rowdy>couldn't resist that one....lol
Jun 19 14:57:23 <venturi>damn, ya beat me to it Frank
Jun 19 14:57:23 <Lassiter>Rowdy: That would be Robin in Batman ;)
Jun 19 14:57:26 <Rowdy>sorry :) (kinda anyhow...lol)
Jun 19 14:57:32 <Frank>hehe
Jun 19 14:57:34 <Boodrow>Yep, dressed like a motorcycle enthusiast, no less
Jun 19 14:57:54 <Rowdy>Good to have you two in here! We missed ya :)
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Jun 19 14:58:11 <Frank>well, we are nearing the end here. Anyone have any burning last minute questions?
Jun 19 14:58:18 <Security_man>i always injoy being the but of jokes :))
Jun 19 14:58:23 <Rowdy>hi Deidre
Jun 19 14:58:23 <Frank>hi Deidre
Jun 19 14:58:29 <plc>Hi Deidre
Jun 19 14:58:32 <Ladyj>hi Deidre
Jun 19 14:58:35 <venturi>hiya Deidre
Jun 19 14:58:44 *Hentaibee waves hi to Deidre
Jun 19 14:58:45 <Lassiter>Its really scary at college basketball games when all these Texas conservative churchgoing 50-somethings all start singing along to "YMCA"
Jun 19 14:58:47 <Rowdy>Security_man... see I'm being nice.. I'm not even going to continue on your comment...lol
Jun 19 14:59:06 <Security_man>aw cmon rowdy - i set ya up LOL
Jun 19 14:59:09 <Frank>don't feel bad security_man, dokk fucked with me last Thursday at the party. lol
Jun 19 14:59:10 <Deidre>heei guys and gals
Jun 19 14:59:12 <venturi>Rowdy: I was tempted to comment also....
Jun 19 14:59:30 <Rowdy>:)
Jun 19 14:59:44 <Rowdy>ok... guess that brings today's chat to a close
Jun 19 14:59:47 <Boodrow>We're NOT gay! Jeez...cept for that one time at band camp...
Jun 19 14:59:50 <Rowdy>unless anyone has more?
Jun 19 14:59:55 <plc>looks like I missed something.:)
Jun 19 14:59:57 <Security_man>i mean "the butt of jokes" how can yall resist
Jun 19 15:00:02 <venturi>LMAO Boodrow
Jun 19 15:00:05 <Frank>yup, sure has been a good one. hope folks got something out of it.
Jun 19 15:00:19 <Lassiter>All good stuff today Rowdy, Frank, etc. THanks so much!
Jun 19 15:00:27 <venturi>great chat!
Jun 19 15:00:28 <plc>definately did Frank,but always do,thanks for all the time you give..:)
Jun 19 15:00:30 <Rowdy>We are hoping to launch the new project within the next week or two
Jun 19 15:00:40 <Frank>don't forget to check us out on the board http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/newbieboard/
Jun 19 15:00:44 <Security_man>thanks, now i gotta get organized and make some new uniforms >:)
Jun 19 15:00:45 <Lassiter>New project?
Jun 19 15:00:45 <Playful>great stuff Frank :)
Jun 19 15:00:52 <Lassiter>Give us a hint, Rowdy?
Jun 19 15:01:02 <Frank>good things are to come. all of you keep your eyes open.LOL
Jun 19 15:01:08 <Rowdy>Yep Lassiter .. it's a surprise :)
Jun 19 15:01:12 *Lassiter pouts
Jun 19 15:01:15 <Lassiter>lol
Jun 19 15:01:25 <Rowdy>lol... it will be worth the wait
Jun 19 15:01:28 *venturi stomps feet in suspenseful frustration.
Jun 19 15:01:32 <Frank>that's why you folks need to stick around and be READY, lol
Jun 19 15:01:48 <Rowdy>might even launch it with audio this time if we can work it out
Jun 19 15:01:54 <Playful>kewl
Jun 19 15:01:58 <Security_man>alrighty yall its back to work for me - thanks again everyone :)
Jun 19 15:02:01 <venturi>that would be excelent!
Jun 19 15:02:05 <Ladyj>Been a very informative chat :)
Jun 19 15:02:07 <Frank>c ya security_man
Jun 19 15:02:08 <Playful>well time to run to town and do some errands. be back later.
Jun 19 15:02:10 <Lassiter>Same here...have a great afternoon everyone!
Jun 19 15:02:14 <Rowdy>later Security_man
Jun 19 15:02:16 <Boodrow>Later guys
Jun 19 15:02:21 <plc>cya all,back to work for me..:)
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Jun 19 15:02:23 <Playful>later everyone
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Jun 19 15:02:34 <Frank>ok folks, this has been great. come see me on the board and keep me occupied. I gotta head out.
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Jun 19 15:02:39 <Rowdy>have a good one all and c'ya on the board! :)
Jun 19 15:02:39 <Ladyj>same here I am outta here,gotta get more work doen
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Jun 19 15:02:45 <Rowdy>time for me to work as well :)
Jun 19 15:02:49 <Deidre>hey, I just got here ... guess I forgot the proper soap!
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Jun 19 15:02:52 <Rowdy>c'yas
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Jun 19 15:03:05 <Frank>yup, webmasters never sleep, lol bye everyone!
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Jun 19 15:04:08 <Kre8t0r>hey Deidre
Jun 19 15:04:42 <Kre8t0r>can ya tell plc i have that thing i tried to get him before
Jun 19 15:04:53 <Kre8t0r>always miss him :p
Jun 19 15:05:05 <Deidre>I'm on ICQ with him now .... I shall
Jun 19 15:05:08 <HippyDude> The Content Zone! ... http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/contentzone/ ... Everyone Needs Content!
Jun 19 15:07:05 <Deidre>Kre8tor... plc says he'll contact you!
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Jun 19 15:08:35 <Kre8t0r>yup got him thanx : }
Jun 19 15:10:31 <Hentaibee>back to lurking mode.......
Jun 19 15:10:56 <Kre8t0r>how can ya lurk with tits the size of trashcans??
Jun 19 15:11:08 <Hentaibee>hehe.
Jun 19 15:11:14 <Hentaibee>making some while lurking
Jun 19 15:11:15 <Hentaibee>hehehe
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