Jun 05 14:01:47 ---WillyB has changed the topic to: Wednesday Newbie Chat .. Topic: SPONSORS ~ What to Know and What to Ask .. And More!~*\!/*~ Today is Wedesday - June 5th, 2002 ~*\!/*~ Welcome to Adult NetSurprise Chat - Adult Webmasters Only!!!
Jun 05 14:01:57 <WillyB>hiya lassiter
Jun 05 14:01:59 *hexa is away: brb
Jun 05 14:02:01 <WillyB>tia! :-))
Jun 05 14:02:05 <WillyB>wb hexa
Jun 05 14:02:33 <Frank>well heck, maybe some more newbie will filter in shortly. I figured that a sponsor topic might be a good one, hehe
Jun 05 14:02:43 <tia>Willy!!!
Jun 05 14:02:49 <[NM]thepez>I'm a newbie and I know nothing about sponsors
Jun 05 14:03:06 <Frank>well maybe we can shead alittle light on it, lol
Jun 05 14:03:08 <tia>do you run pointzero too [NM]thepez?
Jun 05 14:03:14 <[NM]thepez>tia> yes
Jun 05 14:03:29 <tia>you do very nice work
Jun 05 14:03:36 <[NM]thepez>thank you
Jun 05 14:04:05 <Lassiter>Sounds like a good topic to] me Frank
Jun 05 14:04:07 <[NM]thepez>So sponsors.. what do they want?
Jun 05 14:04:29 <tia>they want your traffic, and your signups and are willing to give you a percentage of the signups
Jun 05 14:04:34 <Lassiter>"Sponsors...why dont they just give us the money?" LOL
Jun 05 14:04:43 <Ron>hiya Willy :)
Jun 05 14:04:49 <[NM]thepez>so like re-directed traffic?
Jun 05 14:04:50 <WillyB>Hello Ron :-)
Jun 05 14:05:02 <tia>no.. it's like being a salesman for a big company
Jun 05 14:05:07 <WillyB>lassiter.. I think that would defeat their purpose!
Jun 05 14:05:07 <tia>you get a percentage of sales
Jun 05 14:05:27 <[NM]thepez>percentage of sales if a user comes through my site and signs up on theirs?
Jun 05 14:05:32 <Ron>yep, yoJun 05 14:16:13 <Frank>that sometimes can be by taking the $900 signups, exit traffic, or various things such as that...
Jun 05 14:16:18 <ben0>good stats!
Jun 05 14:16:57 <tia>I myself look for sponsors that have a good tour.. and one other thing I look for are the out of the way sponsors with very targeted niche content.. but that's me
Jun 05 14:16:57 <ben0>.
Jun 05 14:17:01 ---Kandi is now known as kandi
Jun 05 14:17:06 <ben0>whas it something i said lol
Jun 05 14:17:09 <kandi>shute
Jun 05 14:17:16 <ben0>i best get back to it
Jun 05 14:17:18 <PornJunkie>but some sponsors don't give credit for 900 sales or online checks etc right? what is basic criteria for a good sponsor
Jun 05 14:17:19 <Frank>well, usually if you ask about a sponsor and someone has had problems they will tell you. Personally I only worry about signing up with newer sponsors.
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Jun 05 14:17:53 <Frank>then... when I do try out a new sponsor I only do a few sample sites for them and test the water alittle before I plung in, lol
Jun 05 14:18:03 <[NM]thepez>Are all sponsors US based?
Jun 05 14:18:15 <Frank>Most are yes, but not all.
Jun 05 14:18:16 <tia>I usually figure if they use a billing company that the odds are that I'll get what's coming to me.. I don't care for sponsors that do their own billing
Jun 05 14:18:26 <Relik>la la la
Jun 05 14:18:30 <Relik>hi everyone !
Jun 05 14:18:35 *Relik waves to all
Jun 05 14:18:35 <tia>hiya Relik!
Jun 05 14:18:38 <Lassiter>Frank: I presume you have enough traffic into your network of sites that you can tell with just a few sites how well they're gonna do?
Jun 05 14:18:43 <Frank>hi Relik
Jun 05 14:18:44 <Relik>tia =))
Jun 05 14:18:47 <[NM]thepez>Sponsors shouldn't have a problem with payment with Canada right?
Jun 05 14:18:51 <Relik>sup Frank =)!
Jun 05 14:19:03 <WillyB>hello Relik
Jun 05 14:19:12 <Relik>my buddy willy =)) hi
Jun 05 14:19:35 <Lassiter>It's a bit harder when yer first building up sites and links and traffic.
Jun 05 14:19:36 <tia>what type of sites do you have in mind to build [NM]thepez?
Jun 05 14:19:41 <Frank>yes lassiter, that plus I know how my traffic converts so I expect a certain level for the sponsor to hit.
Jun 05 14:20:00 <[NM]thepez>tia> its called exoticanada.com and will have exclusive amateur soft/hard content
Jun 05 14:20:02 *Lassiter nods
Jun 05 14:20:22 <Frank>sometimes it's just easier to swap out ads and banners. that way I know that this site did X, so I'll see if this does better or worse.
Jun 05 14:20:29 <tia>so what you're looking for is traffic to your paysite
Jun 05 14:20:38 <[NM]thepez>yes
Jun 05 14:21:16 <tia>well then that's different.. but you still need lots of feeder sites.. but that traffic will go to you instead of to a sponsor
Jun 05 14:21:16 <Lassiter>Frank: So in some cases you do go back and swap out sponsors on earlier sites?
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Jun 05 14:21:50 <[NM]thepez>tia> should a new site have sponsors?
Jun 05 14:22:14 <tia>not a paysite.. only on exit .. that's what I would recommend
Jun 05 14:22:17 <Frank>if it seems that is the best way to check a sponsor yes. I usually will pick a less performing site and see if a new sponsor will perform better.
Jun 05 14:22:32 <Lassiter>I see
Jun 05 14:22:59 <Frank>it just quicker sometimes checking out a sponsor on a already performing site
Jun 05 14:23:05 <tia>I've seen paysites with sponsors.. and always thought it was a bad idea
Jun 05 14:23:05 <[NM]thepez>tia> that's what I was thinking.. I am also going to have a lot of TGP's posted, I can use sponsors from them too right?
Jun 05 14:23:24 <PornJunkie>for most of you advanced guys --> do you have the majority of your sites, etc. with only say 3 sponsors?
Jun 05 14:23:43 <tia>what do you mean sponsors from them?
Jun 05 14:23:49 <Frank>thepez, many paysites work out deal with other paysites to swap exit traffic and such, there's a few options to do.
Jun 05 14:23:51 <Rowdy>I have quite a few sponsors... some diveristy doesn't hurt :)
Jun 05 14:23:53 <PornJunkie>or do you have stuff scattered on 20 diff sponsors
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Jun 05 14:24:24 <Lassiter>Follwing up on PornJunkie's question...is it better to try and sella single sponsor's site on a free site, or do multiple sponsors & sites work better or worse?
Jun 05 14:24:27 <tia>hiya BigE-WildWebAmateurs
Jun 05 14:24:32 <Frank>PornJunkie, not really, I have probably 12 or so sponsors I use. 3 main one and 1 main one for recurring.
Jun 05 14:24:36 <BigE-WildWebAmateurs>I'm back.. =)
Jun 05 14:24:37 <Rowdy>PornJunkie.. I still get checks from sponsors I don't even use or haven't for over a year :)
Jun 05 14:24:39 <[NM]thepez>franks> interesting.. are those called affiliate programs?
Jun 05 14:24:49 *hexa is back (gone 00:22:50)
Jun 05 14:25:10 <Frank>yes thepez,
Jun 05 14:25:18 <[NM]thepez>k
Jun 05 14:25:28 <Lassiter>Like, if I have an Asian free site, should I just rry to sell (only for example) Asian Heat, or should I try to sell another sponsors asian niche site as well?
Jun 05 14:25:30 <tia>you might want to have one of those for your amateur site
Jun 05 14:25:38 <Frank>Lassiter, try selling mainly 1 sponsor per site then provide a alternative.
Jun 05 14:25:39 <BigE-WildWebAmateurs>Jason is the best..
Jun 05 14:25:41 <tia>an affiliate program
Jun 05 14:25:44 <BigE-WildWebAmateurs>Try playing golf with him..
Jun 05 14:25:53 <Rowdy>hi BigE
Jun 05 14:25:57 <BigE-WildWebAmateurs>Hey Rowdy..
Jun 05 14:25:57 <spooky_bot>rowdy is in lead for longest average lines
Jun 05 14:26:12 <Frank>thepez, just go to any sponsor site and see how they use there exit popups and such. that's the best way to learn.
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Jun 05 14:26:41 <[NM]thepez>frank> I see many that goto Cyber Erotica.. that guys must be making a mint
Jun 05 14:26:55 <tia>lol
Jun 05 14:26:58 <Lassiter>Frank: I see...so if they didnt buy one sponsor's site, offer them another one on exit?
Jun 05 14:27:15 <Rowdy>Cybererotica is one of the largest and oldest sponsors :)
Jun 05 14:27:15 <Frank>thepez, now, if you are doing amateur stuff, you may can even put up small samle free amateur sites to feed the paysite to, there are many options.
Jun 05 14:27:31 <Rowdy>be right back.. phone call
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Jun 05 14:27:39 <[NM]thepez>Frank> you mean different from a tgp page? like a full site?
Jun 05 14:27:54 <Frank>LOL, I see you haven't been around long thepez, hehe
Jun 05 14:27:56 <Lassiter>Rowdy: But presumably they're not the largest and oldest webmasters LOL
Jun 05 14:27:57 <tia>yes a full site of maybe one of the girls.. do several like that
Jun 05 14:28:08 <Frank>yes thepez
Jun 05 14:28:12 <[NM]thepez>Frank> I'm a newbie !! :)
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Jun 05 14:28:49 <[NM]thepez>I was thinking of doing small portfolios of the girls for free
Jun 05 14:28:52 <Frank>yup, FantasyMan, the owner of CyberErotic invented the affiliate program, and yes, he makes a dollar or two, lol
Jun 05 14:29:14 <PornJunkie>what's your percentage of free sites that conform to link lists versus dirty free sites? (w/popups, etc)
Jun 05 14:29:23 <[NM]thepez>giving away a hummer at last years Internext show he has a couple of bucks
Jun 05 14:29:24 <Frank>thepez, EXACTLY, small portfolio sites ould do well I would think
Jun 05 14:29:37 <[NM]thepez>franks> seperate domain names too?
Jun 05 14:29:53 <Frank>NO, that was 2 years ago, he gave away $100,000 in Jan, lol
Jun 05 14:30:02 <ben0>im listening to abba
Jun 05 14:30:06 <[NM]thepez>frank> is that all?
Jun 05 14:30:25 <Frank>no pez, no need for seperate domains, you can put them in seperate sub-folders
Jun 05 14:30:40 <[NM]thepez>franks> good, that way i can do tracking better
Jun 05 14:30:42 <loki>uhhh...ben0, you feeling ok?
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Jun 05 14:30:49 <ben0>:|
Jun 05 14:31:08 <ben0>gimme gimme gimme man after midnight
Jun 05 14:31:10 <PornJunkie>my reason for asking above question is i have found it hard to convert on traffic from large link lists
Jun 05 14:31:21 <[NM]thepez>ben0> i was asking earlier and was told you are a model so maybe you can tell me what the best way to recruit models/actors in a local area is?
Jun 05 14:31:41 <ben0>let me read that again
Jun 05 14:31:41 <loki>lol
Jun 05 14:31:45 <ben0>hold up
Jun 05 14:32:00 <ben0>a model hey
Jun 05 14:32:00 <PornJunkie>your a hemp model ben0
Jun 05 14:32:01 <[NM]thepez>k
Jun 05 14:32:04 <ben0>woohooooooooooooooo
Jun 05 14:32:04 <PornJunkie>hehe
Jun 05 14:32:07 <ben0>lol
Jun 05 14:32:11 <Frank>pez, you need to come by the newbie board, that's where you'll find me and others that can help ya. http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/newbieboard/
Jun 05 14:32:12 <ben0>yeah thanbks PJ lololo
Jun 05 14:32:15 <Lassiter>A model citizen, anyway LOL ;)
Jun 05 14:32:21 <ben0>yes pez
Jun 05 14:32:28 <ben0>maybe you should call back sometime later
Jun 05 14:32:32 <ben0>and we could chat
Jun 05 14:32:35 <[NM]thepez>Frank> i want to destroy that message board, its horrible
Jun 05 14:32:41 <ben0>this room is open 24/7
Jun 05 14:32:47 <ben0>your alaways welcome ;)
Jun 05 14:32:48 <Relik>yeah
Jun 05 14:32:50 <[NM]thepez>ok
Jun 05 14:32:51 <Relik>like 7 /11
Jun 05 14:32:57 <Relik>upz
Jun 05 14:32:57 <WillyB>lol
Jun 05 14:32:59 <Frank>hows that pez?
Jun 05 14:33:04 <ben0>just like the 7-11 thats right relik hehe
Jun 05 14:33:22 <ben0>pez?
Jun 05 14:33:26 <ben0>wtf
Jun 05 14:33:32 <ben0>thatsgreat board!
Jun 05 14:33:33 <[NM]thepez>Frank> just the setup itself is not very easy to navigate, etc. and the search doesn't work half the time.. I should give them a new one that I coded. its sweet
Jun 05 14:33:46 <ben0>hmmmm
Jun 05 14:33:55 <ben0>should u now
Jun 05 14:33:57 <ben0>lol
Jun 05 14:34:07 <Frank>well, you're the first with a problem,lol
Jun 05 14:34:07 <[NM]thepez>:)
Jun 05 14:34:08 <ben0>u da man!
Jun 05 14:34:18 <ben0>yeah
Jun 05 14:34:25 <ben0>we all think that board rocks lol
Jun 05 14:34:27 <Lassiter>U should take it up with TDavid, pez LOL
Jun 05 14:34:41 <[NM]thepez>I like the info but its scattered
Jun 05 14:34:44 <Frank>I just use the flat board anyway, hehe
Jun 05 14:34:59 <ben0>well mayeb thats a good thing pez
Jun 05 14:35:06 <Frank>that's because people don't post under the thread
Jun 05 14:35:09 <[NM]thepez>maybe
Jun 05 14:35:10 <ben0>mite encourage ppl to werk a bit
Jun 05 14:35:21 <ben0>rather than thiunk this biz is a free read
Jun 05 14:35:24 <ben0>you know what im saying
Jun 05 14:35:35 <[NM]thepez>gocha
Jun 05 14:35:45 <ben0>:)
Jun 05 14:35:48 <Frank>anyway, there's much to learn there, and a good place to post questions
Jun 05 14:35:59 <ben0>yes
Jun 05 14:36:05 <ben0>frank0
Jun 05 14:36:07 <ben0>:)
Jun 05 14:36:07 <PornJunkie>what else should we look for in sponsor?
Jun 05 14:36:23 <ben0>nice referring sstats
Jun 05 14:36:26 <Relik>ya
Jun 05 14:36:31 <ben0>be good if they all looked like clickcash hey
Jun 05 14:36:36 <Frank>now, something else as far as sponsors go is that many never ask there sponsors where there clicks are counted...
Jun 05 14:37:02 <Frank>therefore, you may be seeing what looks to be good conversions, yet, they may not be...
Jun 05 14:37:09 <PornJunkie>ya, that one got me for a while - until i came here
Jun 05 14:37:23 <PornJunkie>you guys enlightened me
Jun 05 14:37:31 <Lassiter>Can you explain that more, FRank?
Jun 05 14:37:34 <Frank>some may count from the first page, some second, some 3rd etc...
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Jun 05 14:38:02 <Lassiter>Ah
Jun 05 14:38:04 <Frank>so naturally the further in a surfer goes the better you ratios will look
Jun 05 14:38:15 <[NM]thepez>What's the difference between sponsors and affiliates?
Jun 05 14:38:16 <PornJunkie>i didn't notice until i started counting my own clicks with a script and comparing them and was like WTF?
Jun 05 14:38:29 <Frank>same the pez
Jun 05 14:38:47 <Frank>a sponsor is a sponsor, YOU are a affiliate of the sponsor
Jun 05 14:38:52 <Lassiter>So if they count from the first page, youll have high clicks, but you wont know how many dropped out of the tour after the first page
Jun 05 14:39:06 <ben0>in some case you will
Jun 05 14:39:21 <ben0>siccash for instance tells u both front and 2nd page counts
Jun 05 14:39:21 <PornJunkie>that and because you see higher clicks your ratio will be higher
Jun 05 14:39:29 <PornJunkie>or smaller however you word it
Jun 05 14:39:35 <[NM]thepez>I have to run, thanks for the info guys and I'll talk to you soon with my never ending list of questions. <grin>
Jun 05 14:39:35 <Lassiter>Hmmm....
Jun 05 14:39:46 <ben0>no worries pez
Jun 05 14:39:49 <ben0>cya soon
Jun 05 14:39:53 <Lassiter>bye pez
Jun 05 14:40:00 <Frank>c ya pez
Jun 05 14:40:08 <[NM]thepez>l8rs
Jun 05 14:40:25 <[NM]thepez>BTW: look for exoticanada.com at the internext show, you can find me there
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Jun 05 14:40:49 <Frank>lassiter, kinda true, every sponsor can do things differently. That's why it's not always good to take things at face value and just ask them.
Jun 05 14:40:51 <Relik>http://www.stunningteens.com/tour1.html look what a ripp ....
Jun 05 14:40:57 <Relik>look like all petite
Jun 05 14:40:58 <Frank>Hiya Ladyj
Jun 05 14:41:05 <Lassiter>Hi Ladyj
Jun 05 14:41:05 <spooky_bot>Hi Ladyj is back,,is HiipyDude a real person? Can you tell I am a newbie when it comes to IRC :)
Jun 05 14:41:10 <ben0>ladyJ
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Jun 05 14:41:21 <ben0>lol spooky_bot
Jun 05 14:41:30 <ben0>spooky_bot?
Jun 05 14:41:30 <spooky_bot>yes, ben0?
Jun 05 14:41:34 <ben0>hi
Jun 05 14:41:34 <spooky_bot>privet, ben0
Jun 05 14:41:37 <ben0>k
Jun 05 14:41:46 <ben0>seen ross0?
Jun 05 14:41:46 <spooky_bot>ross0 was last seen on #netsurprise 40 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying: gotta run out.back in a few:) [Wed Jun5 14:04:58 2002]
Jun 05 14:41:50 <ben0>super!
Jun 05 14:41:58 <Frank>OK, do we have more sponsor questions?
Jun 05 14:42:05 <Ladyj>hello ben,spooky
Jun 05 14:42:11 <ben0>ladyj
Jun 05 14:42:26 <ben0>my #1 bitch is in da house
Jun 05 14:42:29 <ben0>all rise
Jun 05 14:42:46 <Lassiter>Oh, someone should put in a plug for the Statistician, eh?
Jun 05 14:43:01 <Frank>One of the big things for me to is I always ask if I get the exit signups. Many sponsors don't do that anymore, but some still do. That little extra can help.
Jun 05 14:43:13 <Ladyj>hehhe ben:)
Jun 05 14:43:36 <ben0>http://www.thestatistician.com/
Jun 05 14:43:37 <PornJunkie>good question is how long before they show up
Jun 05 14:43:40 <PornJunkie>signups that is
Jun 05 14:43:45 <ben0>ladyj :))
Jun 05 14:43:58 <ben0>in your stsats?
Jun 05 14:44:00 <ben0>pj
Jun 05 14:44:08 <PornJunkie>like clickcash has real time right
Jun 05 14:44:12 <ben0>yes
Jun 05 14:44:16 <Frank>also nice to know if the sponsors holds the cookies and for how long if your surfer returns sometime in the future.
Jun 05 14:44:18 <Lassiter>PornJunkie: Yep, and knowing what the score is on trial signups vs. regualr signups is a good idea too
Jun 05 14:44:32 <Ladyj>so the real time stats from sponsors is good?
Jun 05 14:44:40 <ben0>well yeah
Jun 05 14:44:54 <ben0>i guess if u got lots of traffic
Jun 05 14:45:08 <ben0>and getting lots of signups it allows you to check stuff out better
Jun 05 14:45:11 <Frank>sure, yet, the only thing that counts is what's in the $ column, lol
Jun 05 14:45:16 <ben0>also u can click on your own links and test them
Jun 05 14:45:20 <ben0>test reffering urls etc
Jun 05 14:45:27 <Ladyj>well I will have to wait for the traffic to really pick up then:)
Jun 05 14:45:56 <ben0>but a good tip i think
Jun 05 14:45:56 <PornJunkie>no sponsor pays for the free trial right?
Jun 05 14:46:03 <Lassiter>LadyJ: Yep..real-time stats for me would be more boring than watching grass grow LOL
Jun 05 14:46:04 <ben0>pj
Jun 05 14:46:08 <Frank>sure they do, lol
Jun 05 14:46:11 <ben0>www.porncash.com
Jun 05 14:46:15 <ben0>have a look there
Jun 05 14:46:23 <Frank>ouch, lol
Jun 05 14:46:38 <ben0>you can also but a clickcash abnner on any free site you may build
Jun 05 14:46:43 <Lassiter>PornJunkie: AdultCheck Movie Pass does, for one
Jun 05 14:46:47 <ben0>but=put
Jun 05 14:47:03 <ben0>there banners let you count impressions and clickthrus
Jun 05 14:47:04 <Lassiter>Though itsnot a free trial
Jun 05 14:47:09 <Frank>there a few sponsors out there that do, just gotta shop around
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Jun 05 14:47:18 <ben0>ouch?
Jun 05 14:47:25 <Lassiter>But they pay $2.10 on a $5.95 trial
Jun 05 14:47:26 <PornJunkie>like i know it doesn't for partnership so if i know i get a lot of free trials with cancellations would i be better off on per signup?
Jun 05 14:47:28 <Rowdy>sorry all... had to take that call :)
Jun 05 14:47:33 <Frank>the main thing is to match the sponsor to the site
Jun 05 14:47:56 <ben0>pj yes
Jun 05 14:47:58 <Ladyj>so what sponsors are good these days..I have primecash,maxcash,freeezines,and a few more,,but not nothing to brag about
Jun 05 14:48:03 <ben0>but that url i showed u
Jun 05 14:48:09 <ben0>pay wherter they cancel or not
Jun 05 14:48:14 <PornJunkie>cool
Jun 05 14:48:37 <ben0>www.fuckmachines.com
Jun 05 14:48:39 <ben0>err
Jun 05 14:48:40 <Frank>PJ, personally I always make more on per-signup, yet, you need some recurring to level out the slow periods
Jun 05 14:48:40 <ben0>fuk
Jun 05 14:48:50 <ben0>they have no trial and recurring
Jun 05 14:49:00 <ben0>www.fuckmachines.com is an emaple
Jun 05 14:49:02 <PornJunkie>hehe
Jun 05 14:49:07 <ben0>fuk!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 05 14:49:10 <ben0>no c
Jun 05 14:49:19 <Lassiter>isnt it fukingmachines.com?
Jun 05 14:49:22 <PornJunkie>so like does cecash pay for their free trial on per-signup program follow-me free
Jun 05 14:49:42 <PornJunkie>or is that only the other trials
Jun 05 14:49:50 <Ladyj>must be Lassiter,,cuz the one he gave gives a 404
Jun 05 14:50:07 <ben0>lassiter :yes man
Jun 05 14:50:09 <ben0>sorry all
Jun 05 14:50:09 <ben0>http://fukingmachines.com/
Jun 05 14:50:33 <ben0>http://www.blacksonblondes.com/
Jun 05 14:50:40 <ben0>both of those are recurring
Jun 05 14:50:42 <PornJunkie>wait - per active means they go from free-> pay
Jun 05 14:50:50 <ben0>but NO free trial or cheap trial
Jun 05 14:50:50 <Frank>wow, CECash ahs so many programs you'll probably find what you need. Rowdy can probably answer that question.
Jun 05 14:50:57 <ben0>you get 65% from month 1
Jun 05 14:51:04 <Lassiter>I figured it was pronounced "FOOking machines" like some Irish brougue
Jun 05 14:51:13 <WillyB>lol
Jun 05 14:51:14 <Frank>lol
Jun 05 14:51:15 <ben0>active :trial to signup
Jun 05 14:51:24 <ben0>fook
Jun 05 14:51:25 <Rowdy>PornJunkie.. follow me free or ce dollars would be what you want to check out :)
Jun 05 14:51:26 <ben0>lol
Jun 05 14:51:27 <Ladyj>is this an actual sponsor..I don't see anywhere that it mentions for webmaster to sign up?
Jun 05 14:51:42 <HippyDude> The Graphix Zone - http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/graphixzone/index.html - Tips Hints and More!
Jun 05 14:51:58 <Frank>they aren't the sponsor another program is
Jun 05 14:52:02 <ben0>lady j
Jun 05 14:52:18 <ben0>you need to clik on the link that says webmasters
Jun 05 14:52:21 <Frank>I have it in my resources but don't remember off the top of my head.
Jun 05 14:52:33 <PornJunkie>but follow me free only pays per active - not the free right?
Jun 05 14:52:35 <Frank>I think they do the Mike Apartment and others too.
Jun 05 14:52:44 <ben0>nope
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Jun 05 14:52:49 <ben0>thats nastydollars
Jun 05 14:52:52 <Frank>Hi Playful
Jun 05 14:52:57 <Playful>hi Frank
Jun 05 14:52:57 <ross0>hey dudes
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Jun 05 14:57:53 <Ghost_of_Winter>RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.tgpcafe.com/:80 [NC]
Jun 05 14:57:53 <Ghost_of_Winter>RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://tgpcafe.com/:80 [NC]
Jun 05 14:57:53 <Ghost_of_Winter>RewriteRule /* http://winters-realm.com/hub/master.html [R,L]
Jun 05 14:57:57 <Ladyj>so is that fukingmachines a real sponsor to use?
Jun 05 14:58:04 <ben0>yes ladyj
Jun 05 14:58:05 <Playful>yep ladyj
Jun 05 14:58:12 <Ghost_of_Winter>sorry Frank....didn't mean to intrude :(
Jun 05 14:58:30 <Ladyj>okANd what would would use as pics to match up with this sponsor?
Jun 05 14:58:43 <ben0>they have content lady j
Jun 05 14:58:46 <Playful>ladyj, i think they have content for you to use
Jun 05 14:58:46 <Lassiter>Does the :80 actually go after the slash?
Jun 05 14:58:48 <Playful>oops lol
Jun 05 14:58:57 <ben0>ghost of winter
Jun 05 14:59:09 <ben0>whats the prob?
Jun 05 14:59:14 <Ghost_of_Winter>I have used one that is similar for a long time Lassiter....
Jun 05 14:59:16 <Ladyj>okI will have to try themand see what my outcome is
Jun 05 14:59:39 <Ghost_of_Winter>when I TRY this one Ben0 it Xes out the images like I am hotlinking from my own domain
Jun 05 14:59:49 <Lassiter>OK...I know almost nothing about .htaccess myself...just never seen an URL what had a prot number separtaed by s alsh like that
Jun 05 14:59:56 <Playful>i haven't tried them ladyj, hubby has been checking them out, cause he's going to build one himself. lol, men
Jun 05 14:59:58 <Lassiter>eek...cant type
Jun 05 15:00:10 <Ghost_of_Winter>no but I can rady typoese Lasiter LOL
Jun 05 15:00:15 <ben0>ross is using fucking machines
Jun 05 15:00:15 <Ladyj>no kidding,,Mike is gonna give it a shot?
Jun 05 15:00:17 <Lassiter>ROFL
Jun 05 15:00:19 <ben0>and is doing ok so far
Jun 05 15:00:30 <Ghost_of_Winter>ask Playful about MY typing
Jun 05 15:00:32 <Frank>Ladyj, man, I had that sponsor somewhere but cn't find it right now.
Jun 05 15:00:43 <Playful>lol yep sis, and guess who he thinks is going to be the guinea pig? not lol
Jun 05 15:00:47 <ben0>hmmm ok so theres an error in the htaccess it sounds like
Jun 05 15:00:52 <Lassiter>I'm a legal editor by day, so I really *can* spell, honest ;)
Jun 05 15:00:53 <Ladyj>well if ya'll says it is good ,,then it must be:)
Jun 05 15:00:58 <Rowdy>hmmm.. SirMoby gave me a very good url about htaccess the other day.... but it's on a system at the other house so I don't have it presently. if you want to write to me at rowdy@cecash.com I'll try to find it when I get back out to that place
Jun 05 15:01:08 <Ghost_of_Winter>if SPOOKYX would wake up I would ask him, becasue he has the same basic server as I am working on
Jun 05 15:01:13 <ben0>www.hotlinking.com
Jun 05 15:01:29 <Ladyj>ohwiatI have a useful URL for yalemme pull it up
Jun 05 15:01:35 <Ghost_of_Winter>the thing is Rowdy I ahve used this before with no trouble....
Jun 05 15:02:06 <Lassiter>Ghost: Wonder if yer going from a Unix to a Windoze server or vice-versa
Jun 05 15:02:15 <Ghost_of_Winter>nope both 'nix
Jun 05 15:02:19 <Playful>sounds exactly like what i'm going through Ghost, i didn't have a problem until a week ago
Jun 05 15:02:24 <Lassiter>Oh well...I'm lost then ;)
Jun 05 15:02:42 <Ghost_of_Winter>me too....
Jun 05 15:02:48 <Rowdy>Ghost_of_Winter .. if you've been using it and now it doesn't work, something had to have been changed on your servers root level I would imagine
Jun 05 15:03:04 <Playful>yep, that's what i'm thinking too
Jun 05 15:03:11 <ben0>im with rowdy
Jun 05 15:03:15 <ben0>http://www.bruce-hamilton.com/tutorials/password.shtml
Jun 05 15:03:23 <ben0>thats quite useful link ppl
Jun 05 15:03:30 <Lassiter>Anyway, THANKS for the sponsor chat, Frank, Ron, and everyone!
Jun 05 15:03:30 <Ghost_of_Winter>well that is the thing I haven't used it on this new server before. only the old one. and on the old one it worked like a charm....
Jun 05 15:03:30 <ben0>htaccess htpasswerd
Jun 05 15:04:02 <Ghost_of_Winter>thanks Ben0
Jun 05 15:04:24 <ben0>http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess.shtml
Jun 05 15:04:31 <Frank>good to see ya lassiter, have a good one dude!