what is the chat topic today? pretty much open soulman Its real pretty. Hiya all (sorry.. had some CE stuff to take care of) cool I can show off my new all text site hiyas rowdy anything you want to discuss soulman? howdy frank Hi Rowdy what ever you guys want too http://xxx-porn-free-pics.com/amateur/amateur_index.html mmm'kay what's that soulman, what ya wanna know? gonna do the humday lunch show in #mainstage peace! *** Parts: buran (buran@65.33.191.k9666=) what do you think it's an all text site except for my home page banner I'll take a peek, why don't you ever get reviews on the board anymore? I like the colors on the inside light colors work well with amateurs I have been busy with some other stuff this wekk imho. Id throw the text on the top into a table tho, Im at 1280x1024 and it almost touches my edges maybe cap it at 800 or so... *** Joins: Lassiter (patrik@204.65.66.Kj150=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Lassiter Hi all hi lassiter I did change the banner on the other page frank the lesbian site hmm I set my site to work at 800X600 that is max my monitor will do soulman, the cleaner link on the top... I would add something in there like a name so it isn't considered a blind link by anyplace okay *** WillyB sets mode: +o Rowdy *** WillyB sets mode: +o Frank don't know why you're even using the soulman banner that's good advertising space up there. Also, not sure how the link list will like there links like that. The seem kinds jumbled and bland. Pbbbbbbt...it never fails. I get a chunk of real work every time I log on to the chat. I'll be here but AFK for a bit *** Lassiter is now known as LassiterAFK ok.. no graphics.. no problem but you should fill in the empty space either with more text or a very small background pic.. for an abstarct design.. something small and less than 1k *** WillyB changes topic to "Wednesday Newbie Chat - Topic: General Chat: Newbie Project Questions: different ways to get traffic to the sites...~*\!/*~Today is Wednesday - April 17th ~*\!/*~ Welcome to Adult NetSurprise Chat- Adult Webmasters Only!!! " the empty space might make people thing something isn't loading they don't give me any decent text links to work with. the soulman's house of porn banner is like something common to all my sites could even use another ad between the link list links and the enter yeah I could add a add well.. the text links you have would be ok but you should center them in the cells.. that would make them "more unfiormed" Don't worry about "They" soulman. It's YOUR responsibility. Learning to do your own is better anyway okay *** Joins: ZapMan (ZapMan@65.31.232.eN56=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v ZapMan hi ZapMan Hello all heyas zap. =) I am not sure about table recip links I have seen pages that had nothing but the name of the site in the table I centered them though What is new in the world of the chat err now I get a ftp error what kind of FTP error? *** LassiterAFK is now known as Lassiter back it's gone now hi Lassiter *** Joins: efxcc (java@63.254.17.ji514=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v efxcc the page uploaded Hi Rowdy hiya efxcc Got a question for ya Rowdy ? Hi ZapMan and those I missed pop in. hello frank this almost feels like an AA meeting LOL Hi everybody, this is the first time I join so I'm still kind of lost lol When u were reviewing my site, I *think* you suggested doing away with my top banner on te enterance apge. http://www.femdomnet.com/kinkfetish/index.html hi efxcc heyas efx! good to see ya here. =) I dont have yer original message in front of me well.. either do away with it or add some text with it Ah, OK I'll add some text hen just be careful not to put so much text about that one link that it takes away from your keywords 'cause I couldnt understand why I wouldnt have *some* sort of selling going on at the very top :) yea, a eye catching header above it and a good text link below it. Gotcha ;) Is there any rules to follow before asking a question? Hi AGP you awake over there, lol nope ask away efxcc not really it is open topic today Fine, I would like to do the newbie project 5, if I choose amateur niche, does it have to be real amateur? Topic: General Chat: Newbie Project Questions: different ways to get traffic to the sites... *** Guest11544 is now known as erika hiyas erika. mornin hi erika :) just make it look so efxcc hi erika traffic to siteshmm how bout guerilla marketing hi rowdy :) efxcc, if you don't do real amateur it kinda defeats the purpose. nothing turns a amateur surfer off more than posing or models if you fo amateur try staying as amateur as you can, that will get better sales. or big silicone boobs erika, never used any outsourcing for traffic or was that a joke,LOL I'm slow today me neither erika... what do they promise? no im serious about the marketing part i just need some matchbooks too pull it off matchbooks with your url leave em in bars interesting. use lipstick on club mirrors I agreed, but I'm too ugly, seriusly, I do have the content and I been doing AVS for around a year now and never made free sites so I just want to learn *** Joins: plc (plc2030@172.183.45.hV114=) erika: I'm probably gonna do stuff like that when my pay site goes up *** HippyDude sets mode: +v plc lol erika... :P wait for football games or hockey games hi plc Hi All I bet that would do REAL well, for an adult friend finder or live chat kinda thing hi Frank I put up fliers once but I got a ticket for littering use matchbooks and when they score jump up cheer and toss matchbooks bus cards work too all those horney people that leave the place alone no not fliers bathrooms clubs efxcc .. you're in the right place and visit http://www.adultne tsurprise.com/multiforum/newbieboard/ bars etc where its late people are horny etc erika... wondered about that myself before dunno who would feel ok pickin up a porn flier, or writing down a porn URL. =) Its a good idea erika football bames etc are an old trick with the bus cards if are devoted. =) good way to litter and advert :) Im not that.... outgoing anymore, =) can make an avs site of girls picking up trash, and send em there. :P I thought about throwing leaflets from buildings once but never got around to it no games stadiums not total littering but in one spot :) ya, I know hon. =) efxcc, what kind of content do you have, or do you? there's alot of room to do the project in many ways It is girls posing but it is good to make it look like real amateur, it is the only way I've been able to sell it until now *** Joins: jvastine (jvastine@24.217.150.8d790=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v jvastine hello eveyone cool, sounds good, look forward to seeing a page, hop on in and get started Hi jvastine Hi jvastine If there is other ways I'm willing to learn, that is why I'm here how's it going Frank? doing OK dude, hope you are to. you doing the project? I'm itching to give away some content,LOL give away? * erika perks up :P give away is always good ;) lol, Its worth it just to see erika perk up :) Hi jvastine just got the content today Frank... if your giving I'm taking :) Get the Buzz about the Bizz at http://www.adultbuzz.com/ - The Adult Buzz! hi Rowdy yea erika, we have a new newbie project. Marie at HookerCash is giving away a 50 Exclusive Pic Set is eight recips to many for my index page? oh cool that should help out alot for sum :) 6-8 is good... I think zap I always stay on the lower end where can I find the project Frank..? *** Quits: ben0 (QUIT: User exited) at the newbie board plc ZapMan: that's probably the absolute max I think plc http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/multiforum/newbieboard/thre ad.phtml?ra=va&t=4402 ok will go look cool so if I only find six I like for my site then I won't be pulling my hair out thanks Rowdy, didn't have my link page open,lol :) ZapMan: U should find more, and just mirror the hell out of the enterance page aye, what lass said Try http://www.submitool.com I usually do around 30 LL's for each freesite I do Lots of useful stuff there ZapMan .. what type traffic you wanting? ZapMan, something you'll learn is that you need to experiment with many various link list for awhile to get a idea of there traffic flow then as you go you can mix and match as needed when you get the right combination you can usually maintain some kind of consistant traffic hey rowdy what about a vertical banner in that space? text is still a sticker I never know what to right layers rule :) me to DrewKole that would work soulman Frank: U think one LL per page with really good traffic combined with a few that bring lesser but maybe more targeted traffic is a good idea *** Quits: ZapMan (QUIT: User exited) ? *** Joins: ZapMan (ZapMan@65.31.232.Pf42=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v ZapMan wb wb ZapMan yes lassiter, especially if you can find good niche specific links, it can work well much better it can work very well Lassiter :) I'm still going about the LLs a bit at random, but I'm starting to figure out what they can bring in lassiter, not 1 LL per page however. I usually do 5 and mix them up you know what I would like to see how one of you guys prepare to build your site. the steps involved 5 times 6 entrances, 30 links *** Joins: ross (ross_g@66.183.116.6H669=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v ross Frank: Yes, I mean one that brings quantity per page, combined w/ several others that bring less quantity but more targeting, on the same page. Hiya oross make sure they arent index1, index2, index3, aswell name em, enter, entrance, start, index.htm, index.html, etc. yup, you're on the right track lassiter hey all Guys, what do you think of building free sites to upsell my avs sites instead of an sponsor? great idea efx I do that with mine DrewKole: Yep..I finally learned that little trick ;) true DrewKole, take advantage of ALL your pages keep all the traffic in house. =) soulman.. it all depends... if the site is being built for a specific sponsor, specific content or specific traffic desire... many things to consider when you get all the combined knowledge of trying different things :) use different "targetted" title, page names, etc... hmm I have gotten mine listed with index number but I usally name the _index# efxcc.. very effective way of doing it.. many have luck that way efx: I generally build a freesite, promote my avs page and send em to a mirrored avs tour... I have 1 exit on the pages, that goes to a toplist page... so if they click on teh niche toplist, I get 4-5visitors back efx: Im also working on an exit console for the join page, that would say... "Get access to all of these sites" and it would have all of my cyberage sites on there, etc... Thats what Sir Moby does, and it works well for him. that is good to do efxcc, you can be your own sponsor like that if the AVS is selling well. Great Idea DrewKole usually works best if you're doing maybe a Platinum site though, but not always soulman.... you can get listed with index#, but... ask any linkowner they'd rather it not. =) aye... I only do it with plat sites that way you can give them the 20 teaser pics and send them to the AVS for the rest. Frank, I going to do the newbie proyect using this idea well, plat sites or free-type avs sites. Matter of fact if they are hot enough don't even send them to the front door, send them right to the AVS join page I try to stay away from the regular sites, only because for me... regular convert as well as platinum, and free-avs outsell the others 2 or 3 to 1, but... no recurring. quick question where can I find a good list of all the meta tags commands? good question zap! I cant answer it, but... good question. :P Id like to know. I often wonder am I suing up all my best traffic by just listing the page with the 5 favortie 5 (they always have listed me). I figure with all the link sites out ther I can always find traffic huuummm, I may have a link somewhere but not sure where right now. May have to ask that on the newbie board later. using not suing I have a page thaht has excellent htmuff let me look it up oh, another thing on freesites to avs efx... ZapMan: try http://www.webdeveloper.com/html/html_metatags.h tml IMHO, its better to to send your traffic to your avs, if its a niche http://www.dracc.com Thanks lassiter and soulman because even if it looks like you only have 500 pics, or 50 pics... they are more likely to sign up if its rare, i.e. hardcore midgets or something yup, very true DrewKole if Im doing a regular niche, like teen, I send em to the sponsor since they have more to offer, and the surfer could find more nude teens back on another free site http://www.searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/meta.html http://www.webdeveloper.com/html/html_metatags.html http://www.drclue.net/F1.cgi/HTML/META/META.html meta tag info above avs seem to intimidate me but... If Im doing hardcore gothic midgets (courtesy of Sykkboy. :P) good luck finding that content anywhere else. if they like the content, they better sign up at my site, or spend a week trying to find some other pics. =) soulman,www.dracc.com is a broken link DrewKole: You'll have to use a morphing program LOL lol, good idea lass lol okay let me pull up anew window it'll be me, cept not 6'3... I'll cut off my legs, and make me 4'10 :P er, wait... thats still too tall, how bout up to my thighs, and 3'1? :P thanx for the meta info guys :) Br*tn*y Sp*ars as a Goth midget hehe oh wait..she already is lol, thats a lawsuit and ass raping ready to happen lassiter. :P http://www.draac.com/ Ill have nothing to do with that. :P I was'nt suggesiting *I* was gonna do it DrewKole LOL anybody have anymore project questions? lol... jvastine? Are you doing the project? I think a lack of content limits what I can do with advertsing thats better, thanks lots of free content out there, to tone your skills soulman I agree soulman, free content or lack of content is very limiting just dont expect as much traffic or results from it you can be "inventive" though. If you mix and match content right it can give a whole new look to something. and when you buy content, people tend to forget that you usually can edit it. so you can do all kinds of stuff with the large images crop tit shots, pussy shots, etc... I'm shooting my own content right now for a pay amateur site, but I"ll probably buy/lease some to fill it out too 'cause paying models is expen$ive ;) just getting to the project today Frank. Frank...I just posted my project on the newbie message board and.... k, just wondering jvastine, wanted to make sure. now you got me wondering lol great ross! * erika goes to check her contract what erika I may star mixing my galleries, instead of just sicash or ars I will put one of each kind in the site and more image cropping not sure what i allow * erika blushes grats lassiter. =) I,m not sure I under stand the "sponsorlinks per page" thingy sometimes you can't do that soulman, gotta be careful using 2 or 3 sponsors free content on 1 site oops i dont allow cropping sponsor links per page, just means how many "banners" or links to your sponsor you can have * erika cowers in a corner I will keep the sponsor adds on thier content page then :) *** Joins: aragorn (frankyrizz@142.163.109.sD154=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v aragorn i.e. if Im promoting ClubPIx, I can only have 3 ads to them ic, uh oh. hi aragorn hi hi aragon when I have an index.htm and an index.html file in my directory which one will load or is it different for different browsers? * erika makes a mental note to allow cropping hi aragorn hi aragorn hi guys html ZapMan thanx depends on how your server is set up zapman generally, index.html is your starting page *** Quits: Go4LiveCam_JP (Connection reset by peer) erika: Yes, that would make it more desirable, I think. Most content providers will alow cropping but usually not things like pasting a different head on a body or radical changes to the content like that but... if they type in index.htm it'll show index.htm not index.html I guess I should have said if the surfer types in the directory i do allow a ten domain license tho ZapMan: If you dont put a specific filename on the URL but just a slash, it usually defaults to index.html, if in fact you *have* an index.html in the directory * erika grins :) lassiter check yer privates * erika winks *** Joins: LE_TheStatistician (le@216.67.205.3a30=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v LE_TheStatistician heyas Laughing! Hiya LE hi LE Hiya LE but if you get 7000 pics on content you don't have do near as much messing with pics right? I mean 7000 pics would make alot of sites :) Hiya :))) Erika: Hey...much nicer than the original..thanks! LOL *** Quits: ZapMan (Connection reset by peer) :) ideally it would soulman very true soulman but... if you're buying a bulk pack of 7000 pics, dont expect to get all 7000 usable, ya know? =) depends on the content ive noticed alot of people putting useless blurry pics in bulk content yeah but a could iamaing program can help correct a poor pic right to a point get what ya pay for most of the time its like make up And the model is doing an slowwww strip tease until pic #59 only so much help :) I saw a link on gg page that had some low price content tons of lowpriced content big glut out there key is quality and what you feel happy with my other halfs rule of thumb is "if it gives ya wood buy it" few your website as a store use poor quality pics for free sites and if you have a set that is of consecutive pics use every tenth one in one set if a surfer comes into a crappy store they may be turned off agreed LE *** Joins: ZapMan (ZapMan@65.31.232.Yu38=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v ZapMan if the see interesting, newer stuff they may be more interested quality pics are for paysites and AVS sites don't give them what they are not paying for on a free site right... always want them to get more if a surfer comes to a crappy store odds are they are going to go someplace else like clicking on a sponsor banner question....how do you make a page appear for 2 or 3 seconds then continue to the next page? I use quality pics, but I compress em to the level of the lower quality ones then try and get em to signup so they can get the good ones, and the hardcore ones. meta refresh ross yea, I use quality pics, just smaller pics. just a sec, and I'll get the code It all depends on the site to and th design META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT="10; URL=http://www.htmlhelp .com/ goodness ftp is being nasty today replace that url with the url you wanna send it to and the 10 is the # of seconds be careful tho... search engine spiders do NOT like meta refresh tags most will give you a doc on your ranking for it what you gonna use that on soulman? drew kole...Is it possible to have this happen and still have the browsers back button go to the initial page? you start putting stuff like that on your free sites and you'll get rejected. lol yes you can thats what i thought but... after 2 sec or whatever the refresh was... it'll still go back While they last !! 5000 Pic Cd's for $49.95 VERY Limited offer http://www.pixmasters.com Id suggest not to do it alot of ll will not list if you manipulate the back button you'll upset some people. =) thanks yea, tricks are only for SE's and maybe toplist for the most part, but surely not on a link list site basically, refresh tags, EXTREME exit consoles, etc... are if you are hoping for winning the lottery on a signup save your tricks for your own hub/filter pages usually :) the odds of getting a signup are really not in your favor, if you mes with the surfer. :P er, mess. Agreed DrewKole Frank agrees with me? He's usually the Devil's advocate. :P hehe. lol Im a bit peeved at one spansor whose tour links open up a half dozen consoles in *front* of the tour pages, that have little to do with the niche. I'm in a tired, somber, mood today. Tryin to pick what my niche should be for the project. =) sober? frank is sober?! when is the due date on the project? which sponsor Lassiter? next Wednesday will be the final day for the prize qualifing TopBucks, LE as far as sober, lol, haven't drank since Jan. me neither frank