Session Start: Wed Apr 03 13:56:36 2002
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<Lassiter> good afternoon all
<Rowdy> Hiya all!
<Frank> hiya Rowdy!
<Frank> hi lassiter
<Rowdy> How goes it Frank?
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<Frank> going as well as it can Rowdy, thanks! You?
<Lassiter> hi cheekymarie
<Frank> Hi Marie!
<Rowdy> Hiya Marie :)
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<cheekymarie> Good morning Frank, Rowdy :)
<Rowdy> not to shabby Frank
<Rowdy> hi Barebratt
<Frank> hi Barebratt
<cheekymarie> It's still dark here, the sun isn't even up lol
<Sci-Fi> porn its whats for dinner
<Barebratt> hi eveyrone
<Frank> that's usually when I go to bed Maries,lol
<cheekymarie> Hi Barebratt :)
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<tia> Hiya Rowdy, Frank, Marie!!
<Lassiter> Wow..where are u marie, Hawaii I guess?
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<cheekymarie> Tasmania
<Rowdy> hi tia :)
<cheekymarie> Hi Tia :)
<Lassiter> Wow again ;)
<cheekymarie> lol
<Frank> hiya tia!
<tia> Tasmania huh?ok.. no Bugs Bunny jokes :)
<Lassiter> never, tia ;)
<Frank> lol
<Rowdy> lol
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<Annieb> hey everyone
<Annieb> tia!!
<tia> hey Annie!!
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<Lassiter> hi annie
<cheekymarie> lol we don't even have Kangaroos hopping in our 
 backyard, but my daughter has lol
<Rowdy> Hi Babe
<MrsRowdy> Good afternoon everyone :-)
<cheekymarie> Good Morning Mrs Rowdy :)
<Frank> Hiya MrsRowdy!!!
<tia> hiya MrsRowdy!!
<Lassiter> hi MrsRowdy
<Frank> what does everyone think about the project?
<Rowdy> are we all ready for the big launch? :)
<Lassiter> Sounds intriguing Frank
<MrsRowdy> checking it out now Frank
<cheekymarie> I think it is a really cool project :)
<Frank> http://www.cherryclitz.com/project5info.html
<Frank> And even a prise to from CheekyMarie, Hooker Cash 
 http://www.hookercash.com
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<Rowdy> You and Kre8t0r did a great job thinking this one up :)
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<tia> way cool!
<Buzzard> cheekymarie rules
<tia> hiya roscoe :)
<Rowdy> hi roscoe
<Frank> hi roscoe
<roscoe> hey folks
<cheekymarie> thanks Buzzards :)
<tia> marie!!
<Frank> yea, she's cool for sure
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<cheekymarie> :)
<cheekymarie> hey Roscoe 
<Frank> wonder where everyones been the past few days,LOL
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<MrsRowdy> looks like a real useful product Frank :-)
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<MrsRowdy> Hi Crawdad
<Rowdy> Hiya Crawdad
<Rowdy> good question Frank
<Frank> Hiya Crawdad!
<cheekymarie> Hi Crawdad :)
<tia> hey there Crawdad!
<Crawdad> hiya everybody
<Rowdy> the net has been slower than usual in all terms of traffic
<Kre8t0r> hey Crawdad
<Frank> yea, nice to have pics that have never been scene before.
<cheekymarie> Well this is a niche project so these pics will cover 
 that :)
<tia> the newbie project sounds very cool guys, I'll be following it 
 .. but I just haven't got time to participate in it, we're awful 
 busy right now
<Frank> gonna be interesting to see how many take on this project for 
 sure.
<cheekymarie> busy Tia, what's that - just add those extra hours into 
 the day lol
<tia> where?lol
<MrsRowdy> lol
<Lassiter> Yeah, once ya have a 30-hour day, a few more don't matter, 
 right? ;)
<cheekymarie> Haven't worked that out yet, but am still trying :)
<cheekymarie> that is so true Lassiter :)
<tia> lol.. I think we're up to about 34 now!
<cheekymarie> So how many guys here are interested in a niche project?
<tia> I'm working and chatting here at the same time.. lol
<Frank> I try to tia, but I don't multi-task all that well,hehe
<Rowdy> days? you folks still seperate? lol.. It's just all one long 
continual process :)
<Lassiter> I'm interested, but I suspect I'll be latching onto it in a 
 month or 2 (I'll miss the free content, alas)
<Frank> why's that lassiter?
<cheekymarie> hmmmm, it's like that sometimes :) it's great to be able 
 to take your work out sometimes for a different view/scenery - 
 makes a difference
<Lassiter> I was buried under special projects for my day job work, 
 and I'm just getting back to where I can start building sites 
 again, plus I'm taking photos for a content project too.
<Frank> ah, I see
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<Lassiter> But I see this project as useful for helping sell my 
 soon-to-be-unveiled pay site
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<Frank> Hiya soulman
<cheekymarie> hi Soulman :)
<soulman> hi frank
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<MrsRowdy> Hi soulman
<soulman> thanks for the email frank
<Rowdy> hi Soulman and jvastine
<MrsRowdy> Hi jvastine
<Frank> hey jvastine
<jvastine> hello everyone!
<soulman> Ihadn't even seen it untill today
<Lassiter> Frank, I know it might sound odd to say I envy some of you 
 (with your 34-hour days and all-nighters building sites, etc) but I 
 do.
<Frank> so what do you newbies think of the project? http://www.cherryc
 litz.com/project5info.html
<cheekymarie> Lassiter, we use tgps tgp2s and freesites to promote 
 Marie's Place and it really works - I think this project will 
 expand that for me :)
<soulman> I am just showing upo I haven't even read the board today :)
<Frank> oh, I know what ya mean lassiter, been there too.
<Lassiter> Marie, yeah, I'm looking into tgp2s as well
<cheekymarie> and for others too :)
<tia> hey soulman :)
<soulman> hi tia
<Lassiter> I'm hiding out here today to hear about the project and to 
 put off finishing the taxes for another hour. ;)
<cheekymarie> Damn they just forcasted snow!!! In Autumn - brrrrrr 
 damn it lol
<cheekymarie> jvastine sorry didn't see you sneak in :)
<soulman> I need a comperison of 2 gallerie I made
<soulman> if someone feels brave enought :)
<Frank> for tgp?
<Rowdy> ok.. so where do you suggest someone starts out in order to 
tackle this project frank?
<jvastine> hi Marie, how are you doing?
<soulman> no picturce gallery in a free site
<soulman> http://www.xxx-porn-free-pics.com/gay/gaygallery2/index_gay2.
 html
<cheekymarie> I'm great thanks JVastine, how are you this morning :) 
 are you going to join in on the newbie project ?
<Frank> The first thing for the project I guess would be pick your 
 category
<soulman> http://www.xxx-porn-free-pics.com/gay/gaygallery1/index_gay1.
 html
<soulman> wich one do you like the b est?
<Frank> It's pretty much outlined step-by-step on what would be best 
 to do.
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<Rowdy> and how specific do you recomend in going with that category 
Frank.. and does looking for content come into play in that decision?
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<jvastine> I'm ok so far Marie, I plan on joining in on the 
 project...just now reading Frank's description...
<soulman> so the newbie project is like a contest?
<Frank> good point Rowdy. I did think of the content as being a issue. 
 Yet, it always is I guess.
<Rowdy> soulman... kind need to wait for until after the chat.. this 
chat time is specifically for the newbie project :) Thanks
<soulman> okay rowdy
<MrsRowdy> Hi barryf99
<cheekymarie> sounds great JVastine :)
<Rowdy> it's a leraning process with a prize as a bonus :)
<Rowdy> learning even(typing don't count!) lol
<Frank> For this project when it comes to the "filtering" aspect, the 
 more precise on can get the better I believe
<Lassiter> OK, on the mainpage, there will be links going to 2 
 separate subniche galleries, right
<soulman> yes for all the girls a date with me :)
<Frank> hi barryf99
<Frank> yes lassiter
<barryf99> hi frank
<Frank> what we are going to try and do is take a more general surfer, 
 say like amateur, and guide them to a more specific interest that 
 they may have. Such as maybe housewives, bbw, whatever the case may 
 be.
<Lassiter> So we are mentioning the subniches too? As in: "Gallery 1 - 
 click here for sensuous spankings"??
<cheekymarie> So if you do bdsm - you could have femdom and spankings 
 as the subniches ?
<Frank> Yes, the mainpage will kinda basically have two part for each 
 sub-niche.
<Frank> Now, as is stated in the outline we will be trying to optimize 
 for the SE's as well.
<Frank> So your page names should correspond to that niche, not 
 necessariyl gallery 1, 2, etc...
<Frank> When you design pages you should always think of things a 
 surfer may actually surf for
<cheekymarie> So lots of keywords in text, metas, alt tags on images 
 and banners that work with the chosen niches - wow this is exciting 
 - I love working on text at the moment :)
<Frank> yes, trying to "target" something isn't gonna do any good 
 without doing all the small stuff as well. Though SE optimization 
 isn't small stuff.
<Lassiter> Ok, for example, we could have banners/text for 2 different 
 sponsors on the mainpage, and then further upsell for the specific 
 sponsor site on the specific gallery page for that subniche?
<Rowdy> sorry.. had a call... Hi barry
<Lassiter> Like a 1/2 page ad, say, along with the thumbnails?
<Frank> If one grasp the intent of the project and what results we are 
 trying to achive then they will understand why it is done the way 
 it is.
<barryf99> hey rowdy
<Frank> yes lassiter
<Lassiter> ok, I;m starting to get the idea ;)
<Frank> as long as whatever on the mainpage is corresponding to that 
 page
<Lassiter> right
<soulman> when is the deadline for the project?
<Frank> haven't truly set one soulman but it needs to move along
<Rowdy> initially we want folks to get involved and complete it rather 
quickly. It will then be placed in the newbie area for access at any 
time
<soulman> so a 14 picture gallery is that 14 per gallery or 14 total 
 pics?
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<Frank> 14 per gallery for tgp if they want to do tgp
<soulman> allright ic
<Frank> figure 14 is a good number
<Lassiter> So we can mirror the gallery pages for TGP lists?
<cheekymarie> hmmm the galleries are to be made so that they will be 
 tgp friendly too? Is that where Kre8t0r and the tgp board come into 
 this too?
<Kre8t0r> could be....
<Kre8t0r> :p
<Crawdad> lol@kre
<Kre8t0r> hehe
<Rowdy> ok ... Kre8t0r .. any tips on which dimenision size and so 
forth for thumbnails?
<cheekymarie> Just checking to see if you were awake Kre8t0r :)
<Kre8t0r> thumbs say 100x75 ish
<Kre8t0r> barely Marie : }
<cheekymarie> lol - can they be a tad bigger ?
<Kre8t0r> sure
<Rowdy> 100 .... would any larger be beneficial .. say 125?
<Kre8t0r> thats why i added the ish 
<Lassiter> Yeah, they use different pixel measurements in the 
 Commonwealth ;)
<Frank> that's gonna be another nice little challenge but can be done. 
 Making a good tgp gallery, yet, one that works well with a free 
 site to.
<Kre8t0r> yup
<soulman> see I thought that the two were tottaly different things
<Frank> I figure between me, Kre and Rowdy we can handle that,LOL
<Kre8t0r> anywhere from 100x75 to say 150x100 depends on your style
<Kre8t0r> err 125x100 even
<Rowdy> i c Kre8t0r
<Kre8t0r> math error
<Kre8t0r> :p
<soulman> I like 120X120 :)
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<Lassiter> Hi veegee!
<cheekymarie> so really size doesn't matter for some lol 
<Frank> hiya veegee
<cheekymarie> Hi Veegee :)
<Rowdy> 1+1=2 1/2 type thing? lol
<Kre8t0r> that works too just make sure your pics arent deformed 
 soulman
<Crawdad> hi veegee
<veegee> Hi Everybody!
<Kre8t0r> hi veegee
<MrsRowdy> Hi veegee
<Rowdy> Hi veegee
<Lassiter> marie: thumbnails dont matter..its the size of the real 
 thing thats important ;)
<soulman> darnit and I had plans to test the swirl feature of my 
 gallery maker
<cheekymarie> hey your telling me? lol
<Kre8t0r> when you use a square size pics can get a bit warped
<Kre8t0r> rofl
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<Frank> when the chat is over I'd like to start a list of who all is 
 gonna do this project so it will help me to keep up. Just post on 
 the board if you're gonna give it a try.
<cheekymarie> Hey Frank I will be in it, but not for the prize - lol 
 I've got enough pics of myself - but there are 50 up for grabs 
 worth $100 and they haven't been used anywhere else on the net only 
 in Marie's Place :)
<Kre8t0r> hehehe
<Rowdy> very cool Marie!
<Kre8t0r> wow nekkid pics of Marie too?!?!
<veegee> good deal Marie!
<Kre8t0r> whatta deal!
<Frank> yup, great prise http://www.hookercash.com, exclusive pics too
<cheekymarie> no probs - it's the least I can do after all the help 
 I've been given for so long now :)
<Kre8t0r> : }
<Lassiter> Damn...I think I may try this out after all, Frank. ;)
<Frank> go figure Kre,lol
<Kre8t0r> lol
<Frank> you'd think she was a hooker or something,LOL
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<Lassiter> lol
<MrsRowdy> Hi SirMoby
<Rowdy> hiya SirMoby
<cheekymarie> me? lol
<Crawdad> hi moby
<veegee> hwody SirMoby
<SirMoby> Hey Hey
<veegee> :howdy
<cheekymarie> Hi SirMoby :)
<jvastine> hi SirMoby
<Frank> Hiya SirMoby
<SirMoby> How's everyone doing?
<Frank> Crawdad, you've been quiet, hehe
<Frank> hey SirMoby, you got the newbie quote of the week, hehe
<SirMoby> Crawdad's looking into his new Preverted Mountain Cam
<veegee> LOL
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<Rowdy> Crawdad watching those neighbors! LOL
<SirMoby> What's the newbie quote of the week?
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<Rowdy> hi DrGuile
<MrsRowdy> Hi DrGuile
<Frank> Hi DrGuile
<cheekymarie> HiDrGuile :)
<veegee> Hello DrGuile
<jvastine> when doing the thumbs, it is important to keep the proper 
 aspect ratio so your resulting image is not distorted.
<veegee> Yes
<Frank> So, we like the project so far then?
<soulman> yep
<cheekymarie> yep sure do :)
<Lassiter> Yep..Im amazed how many sites have badly distorted thumbs
<DrGuile> wow
<Rowdy> SirMoby - http://www.adultbuzz.com/040302/page11.phtml
<DrGuile> hello everyone :)
<Crawdad> sorry, was looking out the window at the mountain, seem to 
 do that alot lately
<Lassiter> Frank, yep
<soulman> another thing to add to the to-do list :)
<jvastine> the project sounds good Frank!
<MrsRowdy> sure Frank :-)
<Kre8t0r> mountain??
<Kre8t0r> what are those
<Crawdad> i'm still stunned by my view here, it's awesome
<Kre8t0r> lol
<cheekymarie> I have the view of our Mount Wellington and it's an 
 awesome look at the moment - may just post a pic one day :)
<veegee> haven't had a chance to look at the project, but you know I'm 
 in Frank!
<Frank> I'm looking forward to the tgp board getting with us on the 
 gallerys making.
<Frank> http://www.cherryclitz.com/project5info.html here's the project
<jvastine> it sounds like you found a great place Crawdad.
<veegee> Crawdad, are those mountains hanging off the front of one of 
 your neighbors?
<cheekymarie> It gives us a chance to learn tgp and niche at the same 
 time :)
<Crawdad> I love it here jvastine
<Crawdad> lol veegee, some of that too, but looking at a real mountain 
 at the moment.
<soulman> they say the uni-bomber use stare at the mountains for hours
<Crawdad> writing my manifesto as we speak soulman
<soulman> rofl
<Frank> Kre8t0r, you have all those fine folks on the tgp board ready 
 to review gallerys, hehe
<Lassiter> soulman: Yeah, they were probably telling him how to make 
 the bombs ;)
<Kre8t0r> lol
<Crawdad> I'll help with some gallery reviews.
<Lassiter> Voices in yer head are ok, but ya don't have to *obey* them!
<Frank> cool
<Rowdy> lol
<Kre8t0r> it'll be crawdad and me mostly
<Kre8t0r> see :p
<Kre8t0r> lol
<Crawdad> i don't have voices in my head, i do listen to the people 
 that live in my pocket from time to time
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<Frank> Gonna be a challenge but we'll do it. Have to find that happy 
 medium of free site and tgp gallerys
<Lassiter> Crawdad: Well, that's different, of course. lol
<SirMoby> Crawdad has misdgets in his pants - urrr I mean pockets
<Rowdy> haha
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<Crawdad> hehe, i'll not comment moby
<soulman> I am so use to 10 pics per page, that extra 4 may just drive 
 me batty
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<Rowdy> wb veegee
<Crawdad> ten pics per page is not gonna get you listed with tgp's if 
 you decide to use them for that
<MrsRowdy> wb veegee :-)
<jvastine> wb veegee
<SirMoby> I already have a 14 pic layout so I think I'm OK
<Lassiter> soulman: Yeah, a page formatting challenge on top of 
 everything else ;)
<veegee> ooops, wrong button....
<Crawdad> you can put 15 per, that way you got two galleries for tgp, 
 and a 30 pic freesite suited for dmoz
<soulman> I have never have never thought about a thumb gallery post
<Frank> I like doing 12 and 14 pic gallerys sometimes because it helps 
 you in page design
<soulman> all my content seem to run 20 per zip file
<Frank> surfers know where standard gallery pics come up so you need 
 to throw new things at them
<Lassiter> ah yes that makes sense
<Frank> That's another thing about this project. Each gallery will be 
 "different".
<veegee> DMOZ requires 30 pics?
<Lassiter> Different layout, or totally diff page desighn, background, 
 etc?
<SirMoby> Anyone done a search for porn on DMOZ lately?
<Frank> veegee, it's not a requirement, but it helps. I have 20 pic 
 sites there.
<Crawdad> yeah veegee, last i heard anyways, they are always changing
<Lassiter> Ya know Microsquish owns DMOZ right?
<jvastine> Frank, throw the surfer off to catch their attention.
<soulman> who knows what pepole want? I got turned down by a link 
 cause of mouse over:)
<Frank> DMOZ is weird anymore,lol
<SirMoby> April Folls!
<veegee> Lassiter, I thought it was Nutscrape?
<Frank> jvastine, it's not as much as throwing them off as it is 
 getting there focus on ads rather than looking for the pics.
<SirMoby> Is DMOZ worth the effort any more?Industry talk is they 
 are becoming very corrupt
<Frank> By nature the surfer is looking for where the pics are gonna 
 come up
<Frank> So, it helps to change things up
<Lassiter> Veegee..now its not doing it but Ravenia went to 
 www.dmoz.com yesterday and the main menu came up in a window 
 surrounded by a Microsoft logo.
<jvastine> catch them off gaurd then...
<Lassiter> Might have been some weird frame or applet thingy that made 
 it do that
<SirMoby> DMOZ pulled an April Fools Joke :))
<Lassiter> SirMoby..was that really it?
<Lassiter> Bad joke!
<SirMoby> Take a look now
<Lassiter> Its normal now
<Crawdad> lol
<veegee> Real bad joke!
<Lassiter> Scared the shit out of us both ;)
<Frank> well, getting close to the end of the chat. Any more questions 
 or anything about the project?
<SirMoby> It sounds like a good project
<Lassiter> Yeah, it does
<veegee> I'll have to catch you on the board, Frank
<jvastine> no questions at the present moment Frank.
<Lassiter> I've got an off-topic graphics question when we're done
<Frank> yup, and with a great prise from Marie at HookerCash to 
 http://www.hookercash.com
<cheekymarie> I have a few ideas happening - so am looking forward to 
 it :) Can we throw in a couple of fpas?
<soulman> yeah and I have a few off topic questions as well
<cheekymarie> thanks Frank :)
<Frank> well, I had though about doing some tricks but didn't want to 
 get to complicated and still conform to link list rules. Maybe well 
 do a Phase Two if this one works well.
<Rowdy> ok.. we'll close the discussion on the project for today. 
Thanks for coming everyone and we now can deal with some off topic 
questions
<cheekymarie> so with this project the cleaner the better :)
<cheekymarie> thanks Rowdy, Kre8t0r and Frank :)
<SirMoby> Thanks MARIE :))
<Rowdy> thank you Marie :)
<Frank> well, just stay with the outline for now.
<Frank> Thanks Marie, you're a sweetie.
<cheekymarie> hey no probs - anytime :)