*** Rowdy changes topic to "~*\!/*~Today is Wednesday - March 27th ~*\!/*~ Welcome to the Newbie Chat with guest Raven and Ron - talking text on your site! - Adult Webmasters Only!!!" the adult industry is a leader as far as web technology I know that...I mean in my pocketbook we should have more coming as we go, that's usually the way it goes. interesting title for today's chat...talking text LOL Time for a Break! I'm going to the FunZone! http://adultnetsurprise.com/funzone/ hehehe speak to me sweet lips heya frank, got any info on the new project? huh huh huh actually, frank..i'm serious....hippy , you pervert.....go find something to do Hi Annieb sound on websites.. hmmmnot my favorite thing hey frank okay folks if someone could is if the following is comming in on the browser Sorry I was unable to do that site last night. Brain lock too. yeah i'm writing to text now

Peggy is one of those amateur chicks that just ain't gonna make the centerfold. Hard has she may dream. She is one skanky whore. She send in some nasty x rated pics for us to review. I'll tell ya man, she may not make the front cover but the bitch can fuck a dildo!

http://www.xxx-porn-free-pics.com/gay/lesbian/lesbian.html ouch good one Annie!!:)) I hope I got those image paths right has=as brutal but effective hehe lol *** Joins: venturi (venturi@206.133.174.GH49=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v venturi it comes up in my browser soulman.. galleries aren't linked though very nice Annieb venturi!!!!!! hiya venturi!!! hi venturi Venturi!!!!! errr hi venturi hiya vent I love 404 errors I did a folder right yester hiya folks! :-)) hey venturi OK, we have Raven and Ron cornered, who has some text questions? LOL annie... yes *** Joins: ganjaman (ganjaman@62.137.102.KV464=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v ganjaman hiya ganjaman hi ganjaman Hiya Ganja THE ganjaman? hey Sheepish ;) Raven or Ron what do you think about using header text on pages? did ya bring enough for the class ganjaman? hi, how is everyone hehe hiya, ganja :-) Oops.Hiya Tia * Sheepish_ grin lol ohh yes Kre8t0r Frank, what do you mean by header text?meta tags or a lead-in paragraph at the top of the page? lead in at the top of the pages annie..what about the text you wrote do you believe to be marketable/saleable it's leading Any paysite guys here? we have one juso cool juso, we've got paysites...what's your question? Frank, text as the first thing the surfer sees is always good...marketing text mixed with a brief site description can be keyword rich for SEs, help sell whatever sponsors you are using...and of course, it loads faster than banners...so they see it sooner... there's a few juso, it's the newbie chat right now Raven: just wanted to see some heh ah *** Quits: LilBiggz (Connection reset by peer) pay up bubba *** Quits: JJIMBO1959 (QUIT: User exited) lol Raven: whats url to your paysite? *** Joins: Buzzard (hmmmm@204.116.104.VA405=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Buzzard hi Buzzard lo all Hiya Buzzard this is newbie chat, juso....we can talk about this later, if you like whore alarm! :p lol hiya Buzzard lol hey Buzzard *** Joins: LilBiggz (java@12.222.64.Ju594=) hi sweetie :) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v LilBiggz hiya, buzzard LilBiggz!!! Any other questions? wb LB :) hi everyone thx where do you get your creative ideas Ron? Raven: i am a newbie, i just wanted to check out your site= / Do SE's take any notice of text in a text box (i.e. the box in a form)? when writing text that is intended for adult webmasters are there any "rules" to follow different than writing for a surfer? did you guys get my last question? From the site itself, from research, sometimes it's a matter of just reinforcing what the surfer thinks...in a creative way... we eat alot of chocolate, gonzo that too :) writing down skip bourbon...replace with chocolate hmmmm I didn't see it LBbetter repost it selling is selling, K..... nope LB Annieblol the idea is to get them to buy or join something they didn't know they wanted or needed huggels Buzz ok tequila helps, too, gonzo I got a question, I use a lot of tables and was wondering does it make a difference to se if your first bit text is in a table or not? yea, give me a bottle of tequila and a flag...and I wax poetic ;) no rum? not since I was about 26:) * venturi slides a bottle of tequila to Ron LB....to my knowledge..text in a table is fine...but it depends on how fast the table loads Raven/Ron are there "hot" words I guess you would say, words that get into someones head more than others. LilBiggz.. it depends on how deep your tables are nested.. I wouldn't go over 4 deep frank..we call it commonality of language.....you target certain words to certain niches each audience has a set of 'turn on ' words one that pops into my head is whore I usually create separate tables for each row of thumbs/text to help load times if you research a niche, then you will find out which 'hot' words you should use and shouldn't use... *** Joins: Lassiter (patrik@204.65.66.PO66=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Lassiter hiya Lassiter ok so a table with just 2 cells would be ok? we always recommend researching the niche/genre/fetish you're selling Hi all hey Lassiter it should be, LB that makes sense, I guess if you don't know your market and use a wrong word you just screwed up bigtime, hehe k thx yes that would be ok LB hi Lassiter if you don't know your market, frank...your reward is no sales. Hi lassiter *** Joins: TiBo (TiBoWeMa@24.52.124.Ai551=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v TiBo Frank, that's pretty much it...that's why research is one of the MAIN things you should do before writing text for a site it's like selling a ferrari to a 90 year old cripple Hi TiBo TiBo! hiya, TiBo the wrong words will make you lose sells hiya, lassiter Hi folxs. Tibo!!!how you doing! Hi Rowdy, Frank hi TiBO Hi Raven How YOU doing! dont youresearch the market before you even establish a site? hehe.. busy as usual :) gosh, TiBo..you sound just like Joey Hmmm...I'm on a new 'puter and my mIRC display is all messed up. hi tibo always, gonzo GonZo...that would be the optimal way of doing it... If I disappear, thats why ;) *double finger point* [i trying to help] what's the point of creating a site, if you don't know how to sell it...or to whom you are selling it ok...so i have a question for the room....if i may great point Raven fire away Raven 1. how do y'all pick the niche you're going to sell 2. where do you go to get the right words *** Quits: GonZo (QUIT: User exited) thats 2 :p lol 1) TheStatistician 2) Sin-Text :-))) by my interest and se suck-up ha ha ha..venturi.....wrong answer rofl lol 1: Something not tried personally yet 2: linksites and SE results on those type sites and review K..i lied *** Joins: GonZo (java@208.177.214.jC634=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v GonZo ok..rowdy....what do you do to research your audience? re Gonzo first i find out who don't use epoch I pick the niche by my interest and what I know alittle about and my words kinda come from that. lol Buzzard wrong damn browser to close *** Joins: Strohm3 (Strohm3@141.151.24.9K909=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Strohm3 good point Frank frank..how do you know the words you use are the 'hot' words? *** Joins: cheekymarie (msfuntimes@144.134.97.5c57=) brb hi Strohm3 and I missed the question *** HippyDude sets mode: +v cheekymarie Hi Sthrom3 *** Parts: Lassiter (patrik@204.65.66.PO66=) hiya, strohm....cheekymarie Hi Marie Raven.. I have "general " filtered traffi for fetsih/niche sites... kinda of a case of put them up and see how it goes...lol Morning Rav, hi marie Raven sorry :) if you have interest in the niche, you have a leg up on making good text for it Hiya Everyone:) Marie!!! Hi LilBiggz and everyone sorry I'm late I slept in :( hi Strohm3 and Marie :) hey Strohm3 :)) why are you sorry, marie? Hi Tia :) Strohm3the man with the strong logo:)) hehe Cause I didn't want to miss the chat does that work for you, rowdy? Uh Oh the questions were.... how do you pick the niche you're selling and where do you find the 'hot' words What if I open a site and I hate all the surfers and want them to go away?Can I make derisive coments and insult them?I like to use the word "malodorous". yes.. to a degree... but only because of the traffic already being filtered to "look for somethng" different.. a general traffic approach wouldn't be to effective IMO lol Tibo [15:20] <+Raven> 1. how do y'all pick the niche you're going to sell if the hottest selling market is tranny...and none of you are trannies..how then would you find the words I have found it much easier selling something that I myself am interested in. That may explain why I tend to be good at overexposed niches when other aren't. Hiya TiBo TiBo..believe it or not...sites like that, done right, can work For a free site that refers to a sponsor I check them out first. They shoulda already done the research. Hey Rowdy. I look at my content a develop a story in my mind about it same here Frank and i love malodorous *** Quits: ganjaman (Connection reset by peer) or sometimes i just FEEL 'gay' LOL, Annie *** Joins: ganjaman (ganjaman@62.137.115.Fx19=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v ganjaman rofl I kinda like stinkyosity wb, ganjaman lol I love doing gay sites *** Quits: Sheepish_ (Connection reset by peer) *** Joins: Lassiter (patrik@204.65.66.PO66=) so do i, annieb *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Lassiter u guys a nutz man Anniebagain lol back naked men, YES! I can see now ;) hehe that's why you love us :) ok....let me answer my own question.... I love doing gay - I talk to a few get some ideas, read gay mags, check out the sponsors and see what they are offering because were naked mentia? bingo, marie well I don't know about you Buzzard... hehe you've answered part two of my question.... ouch lol :o hammered there's something called commonality of language...folks...if you learn what turns them on, you can sell them anything *** Joins: Sheepish_ (PirchGuest@217.134.34.q1200=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v Sheepish_ wb, sheepish Hiya all :) has anyone read a gay mag when doing gay, well I have a few of them lol and a couple of books too - just haven't got up to watching videos yet lol Raven or Ron, I forget where it was a long time ago but I remember something about it's not to good to use ALL caps cause people don't focus on it as well as regular written text. Any truth to that that you know of? we've found one good way to learn about text is by talking to phone sex girls I AGREE FRANK lol lol we mix them up, frank..we use caps only when we want to emphasise lol lol LB yeah I learned that years ago hmmmmm sex does sell, text written in the language of the type of sex the surfer is looking for, sells much better it's like in chat...caps indicate yelling hard enough to visit the sites for research... sure don't sound like any kind of book I'd read at bedtime...lol And yet, yelling presumably works in radio and TV ads ;) caps make the surfer think you're talking at them, not to them it doesn't work for me, lassiter..does it work for you? No wonder I don't know anything about good text , I talk to myself to dam much...lol lol, strohm Raven: Hell, no, but it's so common, someone must think it does.Like multiple pop-up ads ;) ya raven told me not to curse at my surfers, it was not nice... common don't make it right..sweetie.... caps are good for emphasis on buzz phrases within a paragraph Raven: Amen ;) LOL, LB...i did not yelling does work to a degree... remember, the words "fuck me now" aren't being yelled on a TV.... so without audio being feasible, we have to adjust for that "visual jump out and grab" ya approach if you have a lot of text on the page haha using caps to emphasize key words works, using all caps in marketing text definitely doesn't yeah, but rowdy....Fuck Me NOW! works better than FUCK ME NOW! because when there's lots of text.. surfers just won't read it Yep...thats easy to see right here on the screen i tend to change text color and bold-face more for emphasis than using all caps you're right, tia..too much text is just as inadequate as not enough caps are a tool basically I agree. Raven... it's those visual touches that make the difference .. yeliing works on TV but not in text...lol venturi...that works too :) be careful with that, V....too many colours also can work against you.... good point tia! Is there a certain amount of words one should stop at before loosing the surfers interest? concise, punchy, attention grabbing, 'hot' word rich...that's the goal WHAT RON SAID :-) lol Frank.. if they don't get the idea of the whole page in about 4 seconds.. there's too much text What Ron SAID? :p rofl, K i could'nt hear that... LeTs CoNfUsE ThE WhOlE SiTuAtIoN K...yes, I talk while I typelol ouch you don't have a whole lot of time to convince the surfer....remember that lol, ron that's why emphasis on key phrases and words on a page is important thats it sheep make the surfer dizzy so they can skim read it yea, I've been tempeted to use nothing but Just Click HERE Damnit! LOL short, to the point, down and dirty.. and make them want more! That about hit the basic bases? :) lol Frank.. that works! hahaha dont click HERE works well too Don't Click Here You DumbAss LOL....there is also nothing carved in stone here....when we use words....we try to use the ones the surfer will read and remember Rowdy, just make sure you use their language...yes yes, it does Kre, or even a ? mark, lol lol, K and I think alike and we use them in such a way that the surfer does read them I like the text link "cheap fucks click here" personally ...lol lol LOL hahaha... good one Rowdy!! it gets a lot of traffic...lol Come by the Newbie Center at http://www.adultnetsurprise.co m/multiforum/newbieboard/index.phtml <- It's not just for newbies! Its an intelligence test ;) I think it works better to give them a reason to click here along with the click here surfers are pretty much blind to click here....by itself ya buzzard.. and a lot of folks pride themselves in being "cheap fucks" ....hahahaha Raven/Ron, I often here you guys talk about don't ask questions. Is there every a time that a question may be good to use? hehe i like the cheap fucks..rowdy good q Frank GUY: "what do you say to a liite fuck?"GIRL: "I say get lost, little fuck" how bout put your mouse in put your mouse out put your mouse in and shake it all about !!!! i break that rule too often *** Joins: jvastine (jvastine@24.217.150.Rh733=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v jvastine what i said..was never ask a question to which you don't know the answer hiya, jvastine :-) Frank, only if the answer is an unequivocal yes or no...where there is no gray area for the surfer...then you might consider using it auuu, ok hey jvastine Hi jvastine kool also, don't give a surfer information he can do nothing with Like what, Raven? my one pet peeve is telling them how fast your servers load ah hi Raven, Lasiter, & all the good folks here! *** Quits: Wronghead (Connection reset by peer) :-), jvastine jvastinevpi or micro sekei? like they care hi jvastine they do care...K... If you don't click here I won't disarm the bomb in the basement of your house... I'll click that one my dam self.hehehe if your site doesn't load fast.....they leave K...yep...if your server is fast...they will already know:) dont think many have a stop watch tho They care when your servers low slow.Betchabygollywow. if it loads fast, why tell them and waste valuable ad real estate Tried an entrance table once that said "Do you cum or do you go" .. confused the hell out of almost all that visited it.... that was one of those true failure results ..lol thats what i meant :p LOL....rowdy lol Rowdy Buzzard, what??? good that you tried that though Rowdy.. experimentation is always good For a member site, is any techie stuff good to promote on a tour, like "high-resolution pix" etc. or just keep it to the actual content? another key thing in writing text is to be creative... "CLICK HERE FOR INSTANT ACCESS" just doesn't work anymore...it's overdone and surfers ignore it but that sponsor banner on the index page got clicked a bunch... cheap bastards never bought anything but it got clicked...lol again, lassiter....why tell them something you're going to offer them anyway. Raven: Only 'cause they're usually getting low-rez pics for free. this is info they can't do anything with..and when was the last time...knowing high resolution pics gave YOU a hard on turntablesjvastine which do you go for..vpior micro seiki? thats why i started cursing them rowdy... lol Raven, I remember you made a nice statement in a chat with someone yesterday I believe about the filling the BIG head with info and not the little head something, do you remember what that was and how you worded it. I thought it was great. and unless every image on your site is 'high-resolution"...it's best not to do that that's pretty much what i said, frank...the idea is to feed the head between his legs... other information he can find in a library Raven: Actually, Im enough of a geek that talking about hi-resopics *does* do that ;) I think a lot of surfers look for hi-res pics, that's one inducement that gets them off the free pic circuit. that...and ribbed tequila bottles, lassiter :-) gives new meaning to that line in the song..."feed your head" lol lol yea, I have always figured all that video and pics stuff is at the tour. My job is to get them interested in going there, the sponsors job is to close the sale, lol Would I were a surfer, I would be more excited by a tour that promised me big crystal clear pictures that loaded fast.That's what I like. ok Buzzard, I follow you now - I don't mess w/turntables. Frank: I guess Im coming from trying to start my own pay site & wondering how to promote via a tour right Frank.. the main objective it to get your text or banner clicked and leave the selling to the sponsor if i were a surfer, TiBo...what would turn me on would be all the fucking and sucking my poor neglected, i'll never get laid dick would get TiBo, not for an amateur site...it all depends on the genre/niche as to what is expected Yup, I don't sell a sponsor I sell a tour, in my opinion. good point Frank...you marketing text should be aimed at selling the sponsor's site, not the sponsor... I agree completely! hmmm *** Joins: plc (plc2030@172.183.87.Qe49=) *** HippyDude sets mode: +v plc let me say that it's not a bad thing to say that the images are of good quality, but that shouldn't be the emphasis of the marketing campaign.. hiya, plc it's an inclusion, not the focus Hi Raven,,:) always go through the tours as well... some are just not promotable any other way with decent results Kinda like a car salesman, LOL, you prime the customer the send them off to the sales manager, LOL I personally like the "high res" text, it's a sign of quality I make my own mini tour - from clicking on the banner to the sponsor they get a fpa with a few more details - more selling and then the surfer has the choice of going on to the sposnor or to another fpa with another sponsor Ron: Better to maybe just give 'em one free sample hi-res pic so they can see for themselves, and get turned on at the same time? I get more surfers to my sponsor doing it this way too :) I say snd em there with a blur consolfuck em